I believe MHA addressed this trope in story.
The simple answer is: People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine. Just because you had terrible things happen to you, doesnt give you the justification to treat others in a terrible way. It doesn't excuse your shittiness.
>People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine.
ah yes, because everyone has the exact same resources to deal with their issues
Thing is we can see both sides of that too anon. Elliot Rodgers grew up with divorced parents who were both very wealthy, he had a very price car gifted to him at 18, everything paid for him, his parents got him life coaches, he grew up with the latest tech and took trips to many countries first class, and yet he killed people at 22 because he didn't get any pussy. Meanwhile there are lots of people both here and else where that had the same issues such as being from a broken home, awful friends, brain problems, but were also poor, no resources, no means to travel of any kind and they didn't go shooting up people over no pussy.
Trump and other rich people have plenty of money to not abuse women and could just willing women. Same with their scams they run well after they've hit it big. Meanwhile the majority here will either accept wizard hood or get a hooker.
Resources aren't always the problem. Its just that some people have poor responses, are shitty people, or low breaking point.
This, and all the people complaining about your post will never get anywhere in life; not because "the world is out to get them", but because they refuse to acknowledge that they are at least partially the cause of their own problems.
>I have no agency whatsoever >I have no control over how I respond to things >It's not my fault I react in the worst way possible to things not going my way
>The system is perfect and never ever at fault >Blaming the victims of societal issues is totally not hypocritically shirking responsibility for how my actions affect others
>The system is perfect and never ever at fault >Blaming the victims of societal issues is totally not hypocritically shirking responsibility for how my actions affect others
Someone needs to study some ancient roman self-help philosophy.
>People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine.
Shoto only came out fine because Deku helped him with his issues. Had it not been for Deku and the friends he made because of him, he still would've (rightful) hated his Father. And Shoji is just a dumbass strawman because Hori had no way to actual solve the Mutant plot realistically,
It's done horrible in Boku no hero literally the fight happening right now is >Villain that had horrible parents saying how much they hate her because she was born with a quirk that controls her behaviour and makes her want to suck people's blood VS girl that was poor >"We are the same bro"
Not to mention the Mutant mla captain having a scar like Shoji's yet it never get's brought up and he acts like a "bad victim" strawman who everyone ignores.
No one likes incels
the core story model of the modern world is that nerds/geeks/incels any euphemism for the lonely virgin is the bad guy or the guy who is ready to snap at a moment's notice, and thus is the cause of most ills of mankind.
Why do you think Cinemaphile hates comics so much, now?
Idk, the effects of what he was talking about (unjust and corrupt heroes) is now getting massive in the OPM world as more people are disillusioned by the Hero Association and their executives
Real life people =/= comic book super villains. That guy on the OP claiming to have revenge for bullying is closer to a mass shooter getting revenge on a school than a poor guy stealing a store.
Yeah, because bullies arent the biggest cowards in school, always ganging on someone. homosexuals would shit their pants the second they find themselves alone.
Bullying is necessary to weed out the weak. The weak have no right to exist, so if you're being bullied, either stop being weak, or die.
>People still parroting that same empty diatribe.
The perverse incentives of anti-bullying measures favors the bullies and punishes people who fight back like in how people defending themselves from criminals get punished instead.
That's how it's always been. Any time a bully gets a little push back they run to an authority figure with tears in their eyes. This is because they're just buttholes. It has nothing to do with "weeding out the weaklings," they just want someone to abuse.
>people defending themselves from criminals get punished instead.
It doesn't unless you are so moronic to the point you manage to incriminate yourself by saying shit like "I was out for blood" or hurting yourself/others. There's defending yourself, then there's being a moron. Don't do the latter.
you've never dealt with modern schools have you?
zero tolerance rules mean that if a fight happens everyone involved gets the exact same punishment regardless of instigator
you literally can have a bully push someone over and start kicking their shit in, and both of them will be suspended
in fact in quite a lot of schools bullies weaponize this by intentionally starting a fight with a good student right before a test, so they'll both be suspended and the good student is punished twice, since they now also fail their test and potentially have their GPA dropped permanently
I agree man but I still believe we should at least make a society where the poor suckers that fell into it by circumstance could have had an easier out.
There are infinitely more poor suckers who don't fall into it who tend to be the primary victims of the poor suckers who do. Shouldn't we reward them first?
>I still believe we should at least make a society where the poor suckers that fell into it by circumstance could have had an easier out.
Why? Like
There are infinitely more poor suckers who don't fall into it who tend to be the primary victims of the poor suckers who do. Shouldn't we reward them first?
said, those people make victims of those who never fall off at all. Why do we only have compassion for the worst of ourselves?
If you had such a broken childhood that you've resorted to being a murderous adult who wants to destroy others out of revenge and rage, there is no helping you. You are an uncontrollable dog that needs to be put down.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
You're pretty much saying any retaliation against those who wronged you is bad, when I've heard stories where the victim gets away with their revenge without killing a single person.
If your retaliation against those that wronged you involves lashing out against society in general, you're just a menace that needs to be put down. It's like justifying wife beaters because their dad's were dead beats, which it's hilarious likely, but no one takes that defense seriously at all.
But like I said, if they never hurt any innocent, but ruined the society that wronged them financially by being a town inspector and shutting down their only sources of income for safety hazards, that's arguably more devious albeit less dangerous.
>You're pretty much saying any retaliation against those who wronged you is bad
But it's more common the villain is retaliating by lashing out at random people. In a typical comic book story, if someone is abused and they seek revenge on that individual, the hero will try to redeem them by saying typical, "You'll be just like them, let that person who hurt you rot in jail instead!" spiel. But if they were abused and they start harming other innocent people, then they're just continuing the chain of violence and need to be stopped because they clearly are past the point of no return regarding redemption.
Most supervillains who are willing to nuke a city because their dad raped them aren't looking to better themselves or go see a therapist.
>had 98% blood oxygen level upon death >could speak clearly the entire time he was pinned >Chauvin's leg was on Floyd's back the majority of the 8 minutes >The fetynal in Floyd's system was 4 times the lethal dose >didn't die until after he was removed from the scene of the crime in the ambulance
It was an overdose, people that think Chauvin murdered Floyd are Media tools.
>It goes deeper than your feeble little NPC mind can know
And your "deep" explanation is... Nothing. Because your dumbass is so stupid you'd probably let your whole family get tortured and raped by black criminals and you'd still defend them. And the worthless cuck has the the nerve anyone else an NPC, lol.
in the killing joke batman offers the joker help
sure the joker would most likeely never be free after geting reatment but the treament alone could help him also i could be arranged for him to get beter acommodations than just he usual crazy person room
and at that point batman is so fed up he would agree to get him the best treatment possible and make his life better just to make him stop killing people
Society can't be beaten by a hero with a sword, at least not in a way that wouldn't have him branded a villain; it's also not an eminent threat, more this lingering misfortune that'd need community awareness to overcome. A Big Bad saying he's gonna nuke a city or steal a life-giving diamond or murder the heroe's current girlfriend is much more pressing, and once that's resolved it's not exactly on the hero to say much more than "you're welcome."
As for (cape) comics, fixing an environment that spawns villainy sort of puts the writer and heroes out of a job and most readers out of interest. Besides, Falcon and Winter Soldier had a solved problem + "don't let this happen again" ending and that sat wrong with most people. Granted that's in part because Sam didn't have ideas of his own but, again that's really not his department.
The villain wanting revenge is just perpetuating a vicious cycle. Best way to stop is to slap their shit. But there are a number of villains that have been redeemed.
Yes OP, why are comics like this, presenting a fictional situation and then imply there's more to it, all while probably misreading the genres they parody, while having a subject too complex to address in just 4 panels?
Why is everyone focusing on “being horrifically traumatized doesn’t excuse being evil” and not “the heroes don’t even attempt to solve whatever problem created the villain?” >Villains are incel coded
The best comic book villains are world famous and extremely charismatic. Some of them have “they frick” as half their personality.
>The best comic book villains are world famous and extremely charismatic. Some of them have “they frick” as half their personality.
true but now everythings political so every villain needs to be an incel, or a political strawman
Unfortunately anime/manga (both shonen and shoujo) also have same problem >Villains gang together against one hero >"All of you against one? You cowards!" >Heroes gang together against one villain >"We will win because we have the power of friendship and you don't!"
>It’s bad to lash out at society for institutionalized mistreatment, horrible trauma, etc. >Unless you’re black
I’m not saying that’s true but Across the Spider-Verse is the best response to OP’s pic I’ve ever seen.
Usually the villain and the hero a placed into similar or comparative origins of being mistreated. the difference between them is how they respond to that mistreatment.
>10 posts in >people already talking about George Floyd
Can we just have one thread where we focus on comics and/or cartoons instead of repeating the same /misc/ thread over and over again?
>george floyd is actually on-topic to Cinemaphile, it's the woke media's fault
I don't know why you homosexuals bother to pretend. You could get a lot more shitposting done if you just trimmed it down to "FRICK Black folk".
Never claimed it was on topic dumbass. I just explained to you why every Cinemaphile thread gets political. It isn't my fault you can't accept the fact that it's partially the fault of people consuming hyper politicized media.
majority of the time someone points this out the protagonist goes through the same issues as the villain but doesn’t start killing random people over it
Yes, unless you're a successful showrunner getting unfairly fired for just a little bit of paedophilia in which case /misc/ has your back all the way to the grave.
>Does committing any crime and any point mean it’s always ok to kill you as long as you live afterwards?
No, also when incident happen he did nothing wrong
This is never how it happens. That villain guy probably murdered a ton of innocent people or something. I think this dumbass comic is parodying certain JRPGs like Persona, but what fricking obligation does the party have to befriend a murderer? The reason they're a villain is because their actions have surpassed mere revenge against those who wrong them. Their actions are actively causing pain and suffering to innocent people.
Well the actual moral is as long as you are the strongest you can do what you want and mob rule tends to be stronger.
Just get enough people or become strong enough you can hurt whoever you want.
There should be a distinction drawn between people and dopamine machines with a history of wanton violence in pursuit of more dopamine.
The latter don't need to be chased down and lynched but I'm not gonna feel sorry for them when someone with the authority to do so has had enough.
>This feels more like a manga thing
In manga, the villain either rejects the power of friendship outright from the get go or it's pointed out that once they had powers they were in a position to prevent themselves from being bullied and make sure they were understood and instead they chose to be a fricking c**t, so the cause of the problem is just the villain being a c**t and having powers.
Actually full on tragic villains that never stood a chance are rare as shit and they generally aren't defeated with the power of friendship.
>Weakling under dog is harassed and tormented >Now rises up and empowers himself >But is immediately dogged, harassed and tormented by people proclaiming they are actually the underdogs that society hates and rejects.
When I was 4 or 5 years old, and my entire class decided to play pretend Power Rangers, I stood on the opposite side, I decided I'd play the bad guy.
A friend of mine, who had ADHD or something that made him extra loud and energetic, liked my idea and decided to be a monster alongside me.
Our class stomped us.
It gave me a funny story, and I still hold onto my beliefs that the villains in PR lost all the time and it was somewhat unfair/boring, which is why I dropped the series as a kid.
I also think it's fun that Japan has started playing around with that idea, with characters such as Garou from One Punch Man and the Sentai Daishikkaku manga, to name a few of the popular ones.
But on the day itself, it did feel kind of bad I guess? A mix of me feeling badass for being against the entire class but also feeling bad because I had my entire class hating me.
Well if you're getting revenge on those who hurt you directly thats just righteous retribution. But if you're hurting innocent people who had nothing to do with it because "muh society" thats just being an ass. But revenge stories are boring power fantasies so who cares?
This is primarily a JRPG trope
In comics, heroes often spare the villain [which then makes weebs seethe about letting le killer live without extracting a pound of flesh, based Niponman would never!]
Maybe upon realizing he had powers himself, he should have focused on using it to gather friends together so he'd never be lonely again. Or if he's so obsessed on gathering revenge, gathered up a group of friends who ALSO were bullied as kids and want to exact revenge against society.
Oh wait, that wouldn't happen because then it'd actually be addressing the root of the problem and not existing to be a strawman against society, would it?
The simplistic structure and generic subject matter makes them ideal for bait threads.
Remember how people included the troony who killed those kids in Nashville as one of the "victims"?
kek
I don't, but it's normal for mass shooting statistics listing the number of deaths to include the perpetrator if they die in the act.
we aren't talking about statistics, you fricking troon
I believe MHA addressed this trope in story.
The simple answer is: People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine. Just because you had terrible things happen to you, doesnt give you the justification to treat others in a terrible way. It doesn't excuse your shittiness.
Mull Hetal Alchemist?
>Just because you had terrible things happen to you, doesnt give you the justification to treat others in a terrible way
Unless you're black
Ah yes, because one person equals the entire race.
>1 person
>13/60
Name five black people you know personally that haven't committed a violent crime.
I could name 50 Mr. FBI.
Name 5 whites you know personally that haven't stolen from blacks.
Uh anon have you seen US violent crime statistics?
If that were the case jails would be filed with whites because violent blacks would be getting off scoot free.
>abusive parents can be redeemed but abused children are pure evil
Green naruto can frick off
>People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine.
ah yes, because everyone has the exact same resources to deal with their issues
isn't this more a games and manga thing?
Thing is we can see both sides of that too anon. Elliot Rodgers grew up with divorced parents who were both very wealthy, he had a very price car gifted to him at 18, everything paid for him, his parents got him life coaches, he grew up with the latest tech and took trips to many countries first class, and yet he killed people at 22 because he didn't get any pussy. Meanwhile there are lots of people both here and else where that had the same issues such as being from a broken home, awful friends, brain problems, but were also poor, no resources, no means to travel of any kind and they didn't go shooting up people over no pussy.
Most the school/college shooters come from some pretty comfy starts.
Trump and other rich people have plenty of money to not abuse women and could just willing women. Same with their scams they run well after they've hit it big. Meanwhile the majority here will either accept wizard hood or get a hooker.
Resources aren't always the problem. Its just that some people have poor responses, are shitty people, or low breaking point.
This, and all the people complaining about your post will never get anywhere in life; not because "the world is out to get them", but because they refuse to acknowledge that they are at least partially the cause of their own problems.
>Just blame yourself bro
>Things aren’t under your control are still problems that you caused yourself bro
>I have no agency whatsoever
>I have no control over how I respond to things
>It's not my fault I react in the worst way possible to things not going my way
>The system is perfect and never ever at fault
>Blaming the victims of societal issues is totally not hypocritically shirking responsibility for how my actions affect others
Someone needs to study some ancient roman self-help philosophy.
What a shitty message
Didn't Deku forgive the fire dude who raped multiple children out of his forced marriage? Didn't he forgive the dude who told him to kill himself?
Most moral atheist storytelling.
>People have terrible things happen to them all the time and they turn out fine.
Shoto only came out fine because Deku helped him with his issues. Had it not been for Deku and the friends he made because of him, he still would've (rightful) hated his Father. And Shoji is just a dumbass strawman because Hori had no way to actual solve the Mutant plot realistically,
It's done horrible in Boku no hero literally the fight happening right now is
>Villain that had horrible parents saying how much they hate her because she was born with a quirk that controls her behaviour and makes her want to suck people's blood VS girl that was poor
>"We are the same bro"
Not to mention the Mutant mla captain having a scar like Shoji's yet it never get's brought up and he acts like a "bad victim" strawman who everyone ignores.
cuck mentality, a real man mails bombs to his enemies
No one likes incels
the core story model of the modern world is that nerds/geeks/incels any euphemism for the lonely virgin is the bad guy or the guy who is ready to snap at a moment's notice, and thus is the cause of most ills of mankind.
Why do you think Cinemaphile hates comics so much, now?
Idk, the effects of what he was talking about (unjust and corrupt heroes) is now getting massive in the OPM world as more people are disillusioned by the Hero Association and their executives
Garou was fully justified in everything he did
this is literally ALL capeshit
it's called the Magneto Syndrome
Never heard of it
>In French
And I take it nobody else has either
It's a made-up name made by a youtuber, sous-âgé.
Real life people =/= comic book super villains. That guy on the OP claiming to have revenge for bullying is closer to a mass shooter getting revenge on a school than a poor guy stealing a store.
Bullying is necessary to weed out the weak. The weak have no right to exist, so if you're being bullied, either stop being weak, or die.
>Bullying is necessary to weed out the weak
Yet you homosexuals call mass shooters as "cowards"
They need to rely on guns to feel strong. Technology just protects the weak from their own weakness.
This, it's why I refused to let grandma get vaccinated (miss you gran)
Like Audery Hale, b***h died quick.
Yeah, because bullies arent the biggest cowards in school, always ganging on someone. homosexuals would shit their pants the second they find themselves alone.
>People still parroting that same empty diatribe.
The perverse incentives of anti-bullying measures favors the bullies and punishes people who fight back like in how people defending themselves from criminals get punished instead.
This. And you wonder why people especially hate cops these days that isn't due to gangbangers
It is a psyop to make glowies the only form of law enforcement. Stop living in Democrat shitholes.
That's how it's always been. Any time a bully gets a little push back they run to an authority figure with tears in their eyes. This is because they're just buttholes. It has nothing to do with "weeding out the weaklings," they just want someone to abuse.
>people defending themselves from criminals get punished instead.
It doesn't unless you are so moronic to the point you manage to incriminate yourself by saying shit like "I was out for blood" or hurting yourself/others. There's defending yourself, then there's being a moron. Don't do the latter.
>It doesn't unless you are so moronic to the point you manage to incriminate yourself
No.
you've never dealt with modern schools have you?
zero tolerance rules mean that if a fight happens everyone involved gets the exact same punishment regardless of instigator
you literally can have a bully push someone over and start kicking their shit in, and both of them will be suspended
in fact in quite a lot of schools bullies weaponize this by intentionally starting a fight with a good student right before a test, so they'll both be suspended and the good student is punished twice, since they now also fail their test and potentially have their GPA dropped permanently
>So criminals like Floyd deserve what happens to them
Unironically, yes. If he didn't use counterfeit money or do drugs, he would still be alive.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
I agree man but I still believe we should at least make a society where the poor suckers that fell into it by circumstance could have had an easier out.
There are infinitely more poor suckers who don't fall into it who tend to be the primary victims of the poor suckers who do. Shouldn't we reward them first?
Yes of course but there's no solution that won't get imidiatly taken over by corrupted buttholes
>I still believe we should at least make a society where the poor suckers that fell into it by circumstance could have had an easier out.
Why? Like
said, those people make victims of those who never fall off at all. Why do we only have compassion for the worst of ourselves?
The easier out is called fentanyl.
The US has one of the most economically mobile systems in the world. People constantly move out of poverty and into the middle class.
You forgot him holding a pregnant woman at gunpoint, which is what led to what became his demise.
If you had such a broken childhood that you've resorted to being a murderous adult who wants to destroy others out of revenge and rage, there is no helping you. You are an uncontrollable dog that needs to be put down.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
You're pretty much saying any retaliation against those who wronged you is bad, when I've heard stories where the victim gets away with their revenge without killing a single person.
If your retaliation against those that wronged you involves lashing out against society in general, you're just a menace that needs to be put down. It's like justifying wife beaters because their dad's were dead beats, which it's hilarious likely, but no one takes that defense seriously at all.
But like I said, if they never hurt any innocent, but ruined the society that wronged them financially by being a town inspector and shutting down their only sources of income for safety hazards, that's arguably more devious albeit less dangerous.
>You're pretty much saying any retaliation against those who wronged you is bad
But it's more common the villain is retaliating by lashing out at random people. In a typical comic book story, if someone is abused and they seek revenge on that individual, the hero will try to redeem them by saying typical, "You'll be just like them, let that person who hurt you rot in jail instead!" spiel. But if they were abused and they start harming other innocent people, then they're just continuing the chain of violence and need to be stopped because they clearly are past the point of no return regarding redemption.
Most supervillains who are willing to nuke a city because their dad raped them aren't looking to better themselves or go see a therapist.
Sure, and the same is true of the cop who murdered him
No, the cop was white.
He died of an overdose.
It was actually an antifa false flag operation.
>had 98% blood oxygen level upon death
>could speak clearly the entire time he was pinned
>Chauvin's leg was on Floyd's back the majority of the 8 minutes
>The fetynal in Floyd's system was 4 times the lethal dose
>didn't die until after he was removed from the scene of the crime in the ambulance
It was an overdose, people that think Chauvin murdered Floyd are Media tools.
>falling for the second layer of the psyop
It goes deeper than your feeble little NPC mind can know, you poor sad shit.
>It goes deeper than your feeble little NPC mind can know
And your "deep" explanation is... Nothing. Because your dumbass is so stupid you'd probably let your whole family get tortured and raped by black criminals and you'd still defend them. And the worthless cuck has the the nerve anyone else an NPC, lol.
Unironically what the hell would be the "second layer" of the psyop?
Chauvin was there on OT. Morale of the story is go home when your shift ends and turn off your phone.
Makes more sense to stop hiring people who have a tendency to use more violence than necessary in stops and have had several complaints.
Same reason I wouldn't hire a former child toucher to work at a kids nursery.
in the killing joke batman offers the joker help
sure the joker would most likeely never be free after geting reatment but the treament alone could help him also i could be arranged for him to get beter acommodations than just he usual crazy person room
and at that point batman is so fed up he would agree to get him the best treatment possible and make his life better just to make him stop killing people
Should've used your newfound power to go get some friends instead of just turning around and trying to wreak vengeance.
Why they relate so much to villains but have zero sympathy for their victims? Do they believe having a unhappy childhood justifies genocide?
>won't somebody PLEASE think of brown-haired background girl #24?
Villains get screen time, personalities, motivations and backstory.
It bugs me every time I see this pic that the attacks aren't in the same order as the group shot
You deserve to be killed too
;^)
why are you libs so violent??
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662
>mayo clinic
No thanks sounds gross.
Isn't the sad bad guy trying to kill everyone tho? Because their a narcissist that can't see through their tunnel vision?
What's supposed to be bad about this.
Better than redeeming mass murderers just because they had a sad backstory like Manga does
Mr freeze is the biggest simp in the world
The joker is a homosexual
The riddler's actual name rhymes with ligma
The root of the problem is always addressed, they should have been beaten more, except for nigma balls who should find smart friends
Imagine simping for your wife, what a homosexual
Batman taught me real men cuck their own adoptive sons
Woke shit or mutt geek media is highly binary. They can't go beyond black and white morality. Old Hollywood could though.
Society can't be beaten by a hero with a sword, at least not in a way that wouldn't have him branded a villain; it's also not an eminent threat, more this lingering misfortune that'd need community awareness to overcome. A Big Bad saying he's gonna nuke a city or steal a life-giving diamond or murder the heroe's current girlfriend is much more pressing, and once that's resolved it's not exactly on the hero to say much more than "you're welcome."
As for (cape) comics, fixing an environment that spawns villainy sort of puts the writer and heroes out of a job and most readers out of interest. Besides, Falcon and Winter Soldier had a solved problem + "don't let this happen again" ending and that sat wrong with most people. Granted that's in part because Sam didn't have ideas of his own but, again that's really not his department.
The villain wanting revenge is just perpetuating a vicious cycle. Best way to stop is to slap their shit. But there are a number of villains that have been redeemed.
Yes OP, why are comics like this, presenting a fictional situation and then imply there's more to it, all while probably misreading the genres they parody, while having a subject too complex to address in just 4 panels?
Why is everyone focusing on “being horrifically traumatized doesn’t excuse being evil” and not “the heroes don’t even attempt to solve whatever problem created the villain?”
>Villains are incel coded
The best comic book villains are world famous and extremely charismatic. Some of them have “they frick” as half their personality.
>The best comic book villains are world famous and extremely charismatic. Some of them have “they frick” as half their personality.
true but now everythings political so every villain needs to be an incel, or a political strawman
Unfortunately anime/manga (both shonen and shoujo) also have same problem
>Villains gang together against one hero
>"All of you against one? You cowards!"
>Heroes gang together against one villain
>"We will win because we have the power of friendship and you don't!"
We all should agree all gangbang hentai would be 100% better if the "power of friendship" line was thrown at the end
>So criminals like Floyd deserve what happens to them
Yes
>It’s bad to lash out at society for institutionalized mistreatment, horrible trauma, etc.
>Unless you’re black
I’m not saying that’s true but Across the Spider-Verse is the best response to OP’s pic I’ve ever seen.
How so?
Usually the villain and the hero a placed into similar or comparative origins of being mistreated. the difference between them is how they respond to that mistreatment.
thats not the plot hes complaining about though
I am Thorfinn son of Thors, and I have no enemy.
d-did you just put this shitty ai filter over a manga page and then put your signature in it?
are ai idiots that delusional
>10 posts in
>people already talking about George Floyd
Can we just have one thread where we focus on comics and/or cartoons instead of repeating the same /misc/ thread over and over again?
Le no, le this is le /misc/chan, where every le board is le /misc/.
>see Cinemaphile media become hyperpoliticized by its creators.
>be surprised Cinemaphile is super political
Are you really that surprised?
>george floyd is actually on-topic to Cinemaphile, it's the woke media's fault
I don't know why you homosexuals bother to pretend. You could get a lot more shitposting done if you just trimmed it down to "FRICK Black folk".
Never claimed it was on topic dumbass. I just explained to you why every Cinemaphile thread gets political. It isn't my fault you can't accept the fact that it's partially the fault of people consuming hyper politicized media.
majority of the time someone points this out the protagonist goes through the same issues as the villain but doesn’t start killing random people over it
nice
Thank you, Halloween is saved!
Hitler dindu nuffin. He was just a sad man lashing out for being rejected from art school and the humiliation of Germany losing WWI.
Don't forget fear of more israeli terror attacks and their spies for the Soviet Union.
Well he served his time for those crimes. Does committing any crime and any point mean it’s always ok to kill you as long as you live afterwards?
Yes, unless you're a successful showrunner getting unfairly fired for just a little bit of paedophilia in which case /misc/ has your back all the way to the grave.
>Does committing any crime and any point mean it’s always ok to kill you as long as you live afterwards?
No, also when incident happen he did nothing wrong
This isn't really all that comics and cartoons related if you don't use some examples.
>A story is bad if the heroes don't make the world a perfect paradise by the end of the story
hate Cinemaphilembler
This is never how it happens. That villain guy probably murdered a ton of innocent people or something. I think this dumbass comic is parodying certain JRPGs like Persona, but what fricking obligation does the party have to befriend a murderer? The reason they're a villain is because their actions have surpassed mere revenge against those who wrong them. Their actions are actively causing pain and suffering to innocent people.
Maybe instead of revenge you could try to make yourself more charming to people
Well the actual moral is as long as you are the strongest you can do what you want and mob rule tends to be stronger.
Just get enough people or become strong enough you can hurt whoever you want.
Paging Dr. Kevorkian
There should be a distinction drawn between people and dopamine machines with a history of wanton violence in pursuit of more dopamine.
The latter don't need to be chased down and lynched but I'm not gonna feel sorry for them when someone with the authority to do so has had enough.
This feels more like a manga thing, I can't thing of any comics that do this.
>This feels more like a manga thing
In manga, the villain either rejects the power of friendship outright from the get go or it's pointed out that once they had powers they were in a position to prevent themselves from being bullied and make sure they were understood and instead they chose to be a fricking c**t, so the cause of the problem is just the villain being a c**t and having powers.
Actually full on tragic villains that never stood a chance are rare as shit and they generally aren't defeated with the power of friendship.
>Weakling under dog is harassed and tormented
>Now rises up and empowers himself
>But is immediately dogged, harassed and tormented by people proclaiming they are actually the underdogs that society hates and rejects.
When I was 4 or 5 years old, and my entire class decided to play pretend Power Rangers, I stood on the opposite side, I decided I'd play the bad guy.
A friend of mine, who had ADHD or something that made him extra loud and energetic, liked my idea and decided to be a monster alongside me.
Our class stomped us.
Was it fun?
It gave me a funny story, and I still hold onto my beliefs that the villains in PR lost all the time and it was somewhat unfair/boring, which is why I dropped the series as a kid.
I also think it's fun that Japan has started playing around with that idea, with characters such as Garou from One Punch Man and the Sentai Daishikkaku manga, to name a few of the popular ones.
But on the day itself, it did feel kind of bad I guess? A mix of me feeling badass for being against the entire class but also feeling bad because I had my entire class hating me.
('Addressing the problem' means being paid to blather on about systems and structures and carceral institutions and shit)
Well if you're getting revenge on those who hurt you directly thats just righteous retribution. But if you're hurting innocent people who had nothing to do with it because "muh society" thats just being an ass. But revenge stories are boring power fantasies so who cares?
Orochimaru got off scot-free, has boundless resources and has mastered immortality.
This is primarily a JRPG trope
In comics, heroes often spare the villain [which then makes weebs seethe about letting le killer live without extracting a pound of flesh, based Niponman would never!]
If the villain gets redemption arc people complain he shouldn't be redeemed and if he doesn't people complain he was right all along
Maybe upon realizing he had powers himself, he should have focused on using it to gather friends together so he'd never be lonely again. Or if he's so obsessed on gathering revenge, gathered up a group of friends who ALSO were bullied as kids and want to exact revenge against society.
Oh wait, that wouldn't happen because then it'd actually be addressing the root of the problem and not existing to be a strawman against society, would it?