whenever people ask, Why noone said nothing ? Did everybody knew and did shit , why?? The guy headed the whole industry, he was that powerfull that is why.
social media and streaming services are more popular than theaters. that's obviously the reason. the same movies being made this year would've pulled good numbers 5 years ago but after COVID everyone would prefer to stay home and scroll through tiktok
>zoomers are known to be most ADHD and broke generation >movie studios respond by making every movie 200 minutes minimum instead of 100 like they used to >and extend number of commercials/trailers in cinemas so that first 30 minutes of every showing is just ads >all on top of highest ever ticket+popcorn prices
Are movie studios moronic?
Why don't they adjust to audience?
You have to be stupid to keep doing exact opposite of what you should.
It's like they WANT to keep losing money by doing exact opposite of everything you should be doing.
What is so surprising about that? That's been Hollywood since 2008. Only now have they started to lose money. That utter slop made billions for over a decade
The ACE or however the frick it's called has been very busy playing whack a mole with piracy streaming services for a while now. They went to 'nam and shut down 2embed like three days ago, which was a major one.
>the same movies being made this year would've pulled good numbers 5 years ago
I actually agree with this, but not for the reason you think
the movies are as completely shit as they were five years ago, the only difference now is that Hollywood has finally burned through all of their good will
no one wants to go watch the latest bait and switch and no one wants to listen to DEI sermons when people are neck deep in real problems from the recession
>internet >netflix
By that rationale TV should've killed movies and movies should've killed plays
https://i.imgur.com/ErJgtK1.png
Why are movies dying?
>Why are movies dying?
Because the industry is controlled by talentless hacks, to a greater degree than in the past. Once there's shake-ups/retrenchments at the studios - or new studios - we'll see good movies again, and they'll do big numbers.
It is about technology though. Movie theaters are dying. By extension that means every major company is losing money and doesn't know what kind of content to produce anymore. Marvel has Avengers movies planned for the next few years but with Disney's losses and the controversies surrounding their lead actor they have no future.
The point is they wouldn't be dying if they simply made fricking movies that people wanted to go see. They control the release of movies. And when there is something that is awesome that people really can't wait for streaming or other home media formats, they will go to the theater. For reference, the last movie I HAD to go see in the theater was Arrival. And that movie came out in 2016. That's how shit movies have gotten.
i hate this fricking narrative, and i hate the fricking woke. all these fricking companies were going broken, way before they went woke. they went woke in an attempt to revive themselves
>they went woke in an attempt to revive themselves
Nonsense
They go woke for the same reason they go broke: the people in charge are not concerned with the bottom line or competent to add to it if they tried. It's a bit like that German prince that went mad and spent all the budget on building castles
I can see Disney being that moronic. >Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny would have been profitable if we owned all the theaters it was screening in!"
I can see Disney being that moronic. >Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny would have been profitable if we owned all the theaters it was screening in!"
There was literally a supreme court decision in the 1940s that decided this was illegal, and it was part of what brought an end to the golden age of Hollywood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.
It was overturned a few years ago but no studio wants to be the first one to try and buy out a theater because it could end up a losing proposition for both parties involved. Maybe we'll see a few grand studio-owned movie houses open as vanity projects around the country but I doubt you're gonna see any of them trying to buy out AMC.
I own AMC Theaters stock, and it's a big coincidence. AMC Theaters is American Multi-Cinema, and AMC Channel is American Movie Classics. They have some kind of agreement not to sue each other for the name.
It was a 3-way deal for AMC with American Motors Company as evidenced by the AMC Pacer being featured in Wayne's World. I've seen the vintage Jeep Grand Wagoneer grossly over-represented in film as well.
I was thinking about a scenario where movie theaters could become larger entertainment centers. They would play more movies from every era and have special dates for those screenings, they could expand and add food courts, they could sponsor social media like Letterboxd, etc. But none of that would ever work, no one wants to go outside, no one even goes to the mall anymore. It's all just fricked.
Yeah this would just expand their overhead by like 1000% for little to no benefit.
What I'm wondering is why theaters don't get in on broadcasting live sports and shit? There would definitely be people who are willing to pay $20 to watch the superbowl or the final 4 on a theater-sized screen.
>They would play more movies from every era and have special dates for those screenings
A lot of them are already doing that.
I saw The Thing in a theater last year.
It's just an extension of most brick-and-mortar stores dying, except ones where you have an obvious benefit to a physical store (like a clothing store where you can try stuff on, or a grocery store because buying all your groceries on amazon is dumb.) It's honestly baffling that cinemas thought they were immune to the same economic forces that killed blockbuster, especially since people were already complaining about paying $12 for popcorn back in the early 2000s
The entire industry has been moribund since streaming debuted. When major studios started doing streaming-only releases, that was it. The pandemic just sped things up in this regard.
Theaters have always been shit, I much prefer to watch kinos at home. It's safer, cheaper, and comfier.
because movies are shit nowadays. they're all highly corporatised slop, and while your average consoomer loves to consume their daily slop once you're demanding they go out of their way and pay premium prices to consume it they start to go elsewhere for a more convenient source.
films need to go back to artistic affairs. they also need to stop being cgi shitshows where they require $900 million in profit to be considered a success due to overly-inflated budgets.
movies aren't actually dying, people just aren't willing to pay a premium to watch the sludge that passes for movies at a personal inconvenience any more.
>Entertainment systems at home catching up with cinemas >Viewers know some movies will hit streaming services in a few months >Pay stupid movie for the pleasure to be sitted next to hollering monkeys
Yeah
That's been happening for a while now. California loses a percentage of market share a year. Next year they should be under 50 percent for the first time in the last century.
They make 100 movies a year. 2 are worth watching. Neither of those two are good enough to pay $60 in a theater for. They make enough tv shows in 1 year to entertain you until the end of your life, and no one watches any of it. Idk, what do you think?
They made a hundred films per year in the 80s and 90s. Now they make over 700 per year.
>Now they make over 700 per year.
I took a conservative guess, but that's my point. Complete and total oversaturation. And also the theater experience is just abysmal in the age of mobile phones. Who would pay those prices to go see a movie in a room with a bunch of current-day Americans?
Georgia has a lot of tax incentives and such for filming.
I don't think they've attracted much in the way of big films, but you see a lot of tv shows filming in Georgia now.
Last time Hollywood was on the brink of collapse studios gave directors free rein and we got New Hollywood, the golden age of American film.
We can only hope the same thing happens this time around.
Movies won't ever fully die-out, but I could see there being fewer movie theaters with them being less-prevalent in modern culture, while most of the heavy hitters are distributed through streaming and the big studios are more conservative with their budgets while giving directors more creative control, much how independent studios like A24 work.
Meanwhile the hi-fi and home theater market will likely start booming among film enthusiasts and you'll be seeing more kinostations with projectors and surround sound systems since no one really can/wants to go to the movie theater anymore.
This is in fact the Hollywood cycle. The studios and producers and projects get more and more bloated, producing ever increasingly worse movies. They will milk the bloated stage for as long as they can, they will push it past the point where a sensible person would have likely changed their approach. Then at first a slow trickle of risk-taking, typically very low budget films start coming out. Directors are usually given greater control over the final product, this is where you get the more novel concepts and movies, the stuff that really wows people. The is the exploratory phase, producers and other high-ups admit they don't know what the public wants, so they let directors of all stripes take a crack at it. Once they have some hits they'll start moving back to the bloat stage. Identify a formula or set of variables, start doing that over and over again.
This shit has already happened at least two times before in cinemas relatively short lifespan. Big difference this time is scale. Hollywood has never had access to markets like China and India before in the way they do now, and they've seen that the tail end of this bloated phase has had newfound success in foreign markets. So they want to try and capture all of that marketshare before they have to start cutting back. China and India have kept the studios afloat for probably close to a decade longer than they should have.
>I know recent games are bad even though I'm smart enough to know better
whew, that's me told!
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I don't have to play recent games to know that they're shit. For most of them you don't even have to watch gameplay footage to know that.
For example, it doesn't take a genius to know that Far Cry 6 is a reskin of Far Cry 3, same as every title in between.
>help provoke fear and subservience during a weak pandemic >do this so you can profit off the streaming services of people at home because they’re chained up inside >people realize your disgusting Black persontopian expensive theaters are shit and want to keep streaming >NOOOO HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO US
That line was so cringey. For one stealing something from someone and calling it yours isn't capitalism. If anything it would have made for a better colonialism joke as that entire process involves taking land and resources to support the incoming colonists over the needs of whoever or whatever lives there.
They make 100 movies a year. 2 are worth watching. Neither of those two are good enough to pay $60 in a theater for. They make enough tv shows in 1 year to entertain you until the end of your life, and no one watches any of it. Idk, what do you think?
Today my Mom, who can barely use a phone, said she is sick of tv shows and how lazy it is that they only make 12 episodes now. If she has caught on, there is no one in the dark, anymore.
Too many mediocre people are involved in making it. The newly arrived, from execs to producers to writers to directors to cgi supervisors and animator are derivative and inept.
Oh it's way more than entertainment. I'm scared to even cross paths with strangers these days. Something is deeply wrong in America. A social contagion that is in the final stages.
What do you mean anon? Sure, we may be going through a period of demographic displacement, a collapse of fertility and gender relations, the decline of art and entertainment, a rejection of our own history, widespread mental illness, endemic loneliness for the youth and addiction to media consumption, but that doesn't mean society is in decline. This is the greatest society that has ever existed! Life is better than ever under liberal democracy.
She's pretty much a living, breathing work of art at that point. I'm on season 3 of The X-Files right now and sometimes she's so beautiful it's stunning, like I will literally just say WHAT THE FRICK out loud. Not in a lewd way, she's more like a sculpture than anything.
Like most executive subhumans, they thought they could crank out the same shit over and over forever without any kind of innovation and expected to make infinite profit. Now we have to hear endless articles about the end of cinema because some dogshit company can't make a good movie.
I can only tell you this- I don't watch movies anymore, aside from the occasional new release from Tarantino. My screen-time is divided between classic TV shows and video games. Every time I see something new I feel that it pales in comparison to the older material from which it draws inspiration. I know "soulless" is a meme but honest to God, that's how things have felt for a long time.
>Every time I see something new I feel that it pales in comparison to the older material from which it draws inspiration. I know "soulless" is a meme but honest to God, that's how things have felt for a long time.
I've been saying for years that all innovation ended in about '97, give or take. The digital age and the Internet age killed everything. It's been all downhill for art since the late '90s. There was a decent period in 2007-2010, but it was a dead-cat bounce.
For about five years now I've spent my media time enjoying the absolute cream of the crop of older shows and games and it has been amazing. I truly think there's enough 10/10 older media out there that if no more was ever made that'd be ok by me.
Same. Not into vidya, but I have been just building my collection of blu-rays and watching old stuff. I am always finding awesome movies from decades past that I haven't seen yet. It's gotten so bad nowadays that I have trouble even finding something made in the past 15 years that I can even watch for longer than 15 mins. The past 3-4 new-release movies I've tried to watch I have turned off before the half-hour mark because they are literally insufferable.
I went through a Korean movie phase about 10 years ago that was pretty exciting because I was watching a bunch of "new"-ish movies of very high quality that had never been on my radar before. It never hurts to go international.
Yep. Koreans had a good run there around 2005-2015. Japanese movies from the '90s were great. Nordic movies were also good around 2010.
Same
now all those Korean movies are getting sequels and it's different
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Yep. Koreans had a good run there around 2005-2015. Japanese movies from the '90s were great. Nordic movies were also good around 2010.
I went through a Korean movie phase about 10 years ago that was pretty exciting because I was watching a bunch of "new"-ish movies of very high quality that had never been on my radar before. It never hurts to go international.
Korean movies and dramas are even more formulaic and souless than MCU.
most movies are souless sequels that they either plug wholesale changes for the sake of diversity or cheap rehashes
anything "new" is (again) intentionally not aimed at me, basically saying "this movie isn't for white straight men! frick you! LMAO"
then when nobody watches it, they call me a racist or a sexist
i still like movies, it's just dishonest to put out lazy shit rehashes created by focus groups and diversity hires then blame the audience or the pandemic when nobody wants to see it
and i hate to sound like an old man, but movie tickets were $5 when i was in high school in 07, popcorn another $8 or so max. that will probably get you one bottle of water now, I don't want to pay 3x what i paid back then for an inferior product that insults its audience
it's definitely the flu virus that even the most pathetic tv brains stopped caring about a year and a half ago and not the fact that hollywood has produced almost nothing but garbage for the better part of a decade
You see, if you go to the movies once, you pay one time and that's that. The film ends and you go home. If you subscribe to Netflix/HBOMAXXX/Disney+ you have a fee you pay every month in perpetuity. You stop paying, your access is terminated. It's as simple as that.
Star Wars, the original movie, was made on a budget of 11 miljoen USD. Granted, the movies did increase in cost with every new installment. But even return of the Jedi was "Only" 32 million. The fact things have gotten more, rather than less, expensive since then really makes me wonder who the frick is getting payed for what.
It's ADHD. ain't nobody got time for 2 hours plus of movie watching, especially if they are all shit too. If I want cutscenes galore I play a kojima game.
1. People are poor. They can’t afford to see every movie. So they pick which few they can. Especially since movie theaters are expensive. Also the US are in a recession.
2. Most of the movies out look/are terrible. Especially with CGI these days being so awful. They aren’t worth seeing.
3. Many people wait for movies to come to streaming. Especially Disney movies since Disney+ exists. It is a hassle to drive to the theater.
4. China has given up on Hollywood and blocked many of their movies. So that is a loss of revenue.
Boomers are narcissists so they have a subconscious need for the world to end when they end. Their narcissism can't tolerate ever being eclipsed (despite social media making zoomers far worse). They will slam the door on their way out. That's why they're handing the world to diversity hires. They expect things to be worse without them and believe it needs to be for humanity to move forward (they just never wanted to sacrifice for it) and they're possibly the last generation who will be in a position to use power in this way which is why they're so committed on ramming so much through at the end.
Because going to theaters has ALWAYS been shit. Way before netflix ever started mailing people DVDs (remember that?) I wanted to be able to watch movies at home.
There is now no reason to ever go to a theater short of big "experience" movies like Top Gun Maverick in Laser IMAX
Everything's dying. Games, music, books, we live in a terminally ill society and the degradation of culture is just one facet of that. If you think it's bad now just wait till you see where we are in five years.
german toilet has a poop shelf
anglo toilet poop goes under water and out of the way, utilitarian
*sniffle
IDEOLOGY
he isn't wrong but he also has a huge blind spot for experts.
ignoring the whole diversity bullshit it's because writers are fricking unoriginal hacks and people have access to much better older movies so why bother paying for new dogshit?
Movies are getting worse and worse while movie theaters keep getting more and more expensive.
It's like a perfect parallel for life right now. Our infrastructure and quality of life gets worse each year and yet there is no end to the price hikes, new taxes, inflation, etc.
I wonder if most people would prefer a cinema experience that was more like an opera box, than sitting in rows in an auditorium. It would be a premium service but it could mitigate a lot of the worst behaviour of other patrons.
I've also wondered if more of a private karaoke room type set up would be successful. Smaller rooms that cater to 4-20 people, room service, drinks and you can pause the film if you want.
Wooow, so you are saying the revenue source of media-megacorps is dying off and we have to ... le gasp ... rely again on mainly indie pieces of cultural artifice?
WOKE movies are dying. non-woke movies like top gun maverick, avatar 2, and mario bros all made a shitzillion dollars.
most big franchises have been taken over by talentless soulless people (women) that absolutely loathe what used to be the target audience of these ips (white men).
normalgays have slowly been waking up to this since the mid 10s and thanks to the pandemic they have realized how little sense there in on wasting $20+ on cinemas to watch movies that shit on them and the things they like.
this is also why manga and eastern media in general like korean stuff have become more popular than ever. very surreal to hear sports watching normies and females at work talking about the last anime ep they saw.
Top Gun and Spiderverse prove that good movies still fill theaters most movies are just anti white/male/hero feminist garbage. Legitimately. They’re just political fronts for advocates rather than being primarily about entertainment. That’s the problem. That’s the only real problem. They’re being written by people with agendas instead of people who want to make a fun story.
One of my favorite games recently is Unsighted. A little Zelda + Metroid style game about lesbian brown robots. It hits all the diversity quotas of black science woman and fat and skinny and even a fricking robot in a wheelchair. And I didn’t mind it at all because the game never once mentions it or virtue signals that simply is the world and it’s extremely well designed as a game to boot. It was made by people with an obvious political slant but they weren’t there to browbeat or advocate they were there to make a really good game. Spiderverse is extremely diverse but it never gets in the way of the actual movie.
The same simply cannot be said about Disney movies. KK is running the company into the ground because of her insane political advocacy.
See what makes Unsighted so good is it’s extremely open ended and knowledge based. The game drip feeds you mechanics or never tells you them at all, but you can experiment with it. My first play through took about 7 minutes but the speedrun for glitchless takes slightly more than 30 to get the true ending because if you know what you’re doing, you can skip 97% of the puzzles and rooms. It’s so amazingly well designed, with responsive and fun combat, and it just works so well. It’s designed to be cheesed. You can play it legit, you can also just avoid the ice block puzzles or cheese them with environmental boxes you can pick up and drop. Really a master class in indie even though it was made by gay communists. Unless Indy, which suffers from being made by gay communists who felt the need to more or less tell you they are instead of telling a good story.
>One of my favorite games recently is Unsighted. A little Zelda + Metroid style game about lesbian brown robots. It hits all the diversity quotas of black science woman and fat and skinny and even a fricking robot in a wheelchair. And I didn’t mind it at all because the game never once mentions it or virtue signals that simply is the world and it’s extremely well designed as a game to boot
This is usually just a white liberal male's fetish disguised as political activism.
I'd go to the movies if they weren't all just seeping with contempt for their audience on every level, either insultingly moronic, written by some over medicated writer who is venting their contempt for the average person, or just a vehicle for someone else's politics. I want to be entertained not lectured.
Movie quality and inflation. With prices of everything having gone up so much everyone is looking at where to cut back and it not make much difference to their life and a lot of people see going to the movies as not much more than watching it at home.
Lucas was right. Theaters will become like sports arenas where only big budget action movie blockbusters play and anything else will be relegated to the smaller, independent ones.
Cinemas are NOT dying,
Shitty gay woke movies are!
Mario Bros a big hit , among others, but all thr shit Disney and WB drop, fail , frick the woke shit, frick the rainbow bullshit, the ride stop
Because boomer movies were objectively better. Society and culture have rotted and degenerated to the point where there is no progress. Older stuff was made by people who cared about artistry and satisfying an audience. Modern shit is rife with blatant political agendas, hack writing and sloppy execution. There's been a significant drop off in quality the last 20 years.
>Stop funding novel and unique movies. >Make nothing but cheap, short sighted cash grabs that ruin consumer confidence. >Blames everything but themselves.
The advent of digital cinematography has removed any mystique or charm from movies.
Movies now require $250,000,000 budgets with extreme advertisement campaigns to compete with movies that used to cost $250,000 shot on film, and even when one turns a profit, it's dismal and shortsighted because there's no lasting appeal, nothing profound.
Being a shit head has become more acceptable to people via social media.
so theaters are more disruptive than ever
Zoomies cant sit down.
Shit AAA films that demand so many screens
The monopoly by Disney homogenized the market; and now that market has become fatigued. meaning theaters shit profits.
Also you have AMC execs laughing their asses off as people are trying to meme stock instead of working about actually improving the theater going experience
The entire industry treating Everything Like content that is replaced the next week. No one willing to invest time in actually marketing films outside of a few big ones .
I think we are gonna see far more video game movies this next 2 years the Mario success stamped that. They'll shove nostalgia down our wieners
>Zoomies cant sit down.
frick me i made the horrible mistake of going to see GotG 3 at 3pm on a Saturday and literally half the theatre was zoomers who had obviously been sent there as some form of daycare. throwing shit, using the flashlights on their phones, shouting during quiet scenes, you name it. I had almost forgotten how bad it could be. If cinemas want my money than have zoomer-only screening and ban them from the others.
went to watch fricking fear and loathing at the local cinema and some obvious 15yo was just throwing the worst quips the whole time, he was escorted out kf the cinema lol.
I am poor
I cannot justify going to the cinema to see all the films I'm interested in
I know this will sound pathetic but I couldn't even justify seeing Dune even though I had waited 10 years for it to be made
I looked into it, people told me to see it at imax but the tickets were too much
Recently I watched the films Breathless and The Wicker Man on my local broadcasters streaming site and they were both great, I especially love Breathless
It was free
i'm still more than willing to go to the cinema, just not for the absolute dogshit they're showing in there these days. The only movie I've gone to see this year is the new Spiderverse.
also 90% of the time a baby is brought to theater its by a mexican or african american. Meaning they either cant afford a baby sitter or they are just shitty. Id like to assume the first but typically they have larger families.
Don't get me wrong, I love cinemas but it would be so much better if everything came to streaming services instantly, I could watch new releases for free cause they'd get pirated instantly.
oh left-wingers were united to making 80% of the working class unemployed so multi-billion dollar Pharmaceutical corporations could make billions more.
Top Gun and Mario did big numbers. Horrors still do routinely well, and that weird Jennifer Lawrance boner comedy did better than expected by the studio.
It's just hollyisraelite's big pozzed tentpoles tanking.
If they want people's money, actually make something that people want to see.
Pretty much this. All they need to do is make better movies and/or the ticket prices need to come down. I dont mind paying higher prices for good movies, but Im not going to even consider it with the state of the things right now.
Hot take coming through: Perhaps people actually got good sound equipment during COVID so they feel less inclined to pay 20 bucks for a theatre ticket now but instead simply watch their kino at home. At least that's what killed theatres for me in the past. A pair of Sennheiser HD800S + 3000 Euro DAC/AMP combination. None of the films I'd be interested in seeing screen in theatres with sound setups good enough to match that experience. If every normie spent a couple grand on a 70 inch OLEDs and a proper sound system during COVID, why'd they still go to the movies? It's not like either are unaffordable anymore.
>normie >spent a couple grand on a 70 inch OLEDs
Is that a normie thingy?
Depends whether it's actually as good as the movies. My bet is you're a homosexual
movies stopped being something designed to entertain & invoke complex emotions, and became something to score brownie points with progressives. They're vapid vehicles for left-wing ideologies and people are tired of it, even those who are left-wing. People just want apolitical movies again so they can forget about how shit everything is. That's why the mario movie did so well.
>EGS Black personism/troonyism/white man hate >Millennials and late Boomers that cant write a decent scenario to save themselves >Big ass budgets that lead to safe and watered down products >CGI pajeet studios >Zoomers and millennials with short attention span due to social media >Tickets and foods got way too expensive >My 4k OLED TV+my sound system+the comfort of my home
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theater's stupid screen+the hassle to book a ticket+the annoying moviegoers that cant shut the frick up
I give cinema 15years tops. I expect shorter movies(like 30-40mins) in the future as a desperate attempt to appeal to zoomers.
Oh well, enjoy the last few kinos that come out here and there before the end
Because I don't want to spend my time watching movies in a hall packed with people who much on something all the time, burp from soda and laugh at quips. Home watching is preferable and I don't care for director autism about it being made for the big screen.
Too expensive. I can buy a bottle of brandy, coke, ice and a pizza for a night of movies at home for the same or less than it would cost to drive to the cinema, buy a ticket and pay for snacks.
Its been said many times in this thread but I will say it again. The movies are shit. I have two theaters that are locally owned and operated as a non-profit and I would love to support them more but I am not going to pay for garbage.
Although I did see Asteroid City recently and that was good enough but it was exception that proves the rule.
Maybe stop with the printed money and the ESG bullshit and I will watch more films.
Cinemas are dying because it is so much more comfortable now to watch movies on my big TV at home. Movies are dying because everyone is tired of the same mediocre bullshit over and over. Plus, movies have far more competition now, youtube, vidya, tiktok, etc all offer cheaper and more instant gratification than spending 30+ per person for 2 hours in the cinema.
>it's because of covid itself, not the inflation caused by lockdowns and the war, not the mass hiring of incomptetent people, not greedy companies that don't give a frick about the art they're selling, and certainly not the pushing of an unpalatable regressive-liberal message.
Are they dying or does it just seem that way? I mean, how much shit did the average movie-goer in the 70s have to wade through to get to gems like Star Wars or The Godfather? Likewise, we now have to wade through a lot of shit to find gems like Ford v Ferrari or Top Gun.
Plus we have more choice now with streaming platforms offering their own movies, more experimental stuff is more likely to be tried there instead of the cinema. So now we have to search more to find the gems rather than having them all located in one convenient place.
And it doesn't help that the good stuff is barely advertised or tlaked about any more, I never heard of Extraction or Sisu until someone reviewed it on YT. Certainly, Cinemaphile vastly prefers complaining about shit movies, and giving them attention, instead of talking about good non-woke movies.
>all 3 of the highest grossing films of all time have black people in lead roles >8 of the top 10 star black people in lead roles >/tvpol/: "No ONe WAntS TO sEE BlAcK PeOPle in fIlmS gO woKe go bROKe"
>Capitalism working in the consumers favor, so much content, a film is worth maybe a nickel to stream it. The value isnt in the content its in the delivery method >There are no movie stars. Social media removed the veil and most actors are out of touch midwits virtue signaling >inserted politics to make the populace hyperpolitically aware bc orange man bad >Lack of theater innovation. Frickers should have 4D or 7D experiences. The only benefit now is sound and who tf wants nolans soundmixing >My OLED LG is insane i can not be sold on a resolution as the drawing point to a theater. >Its clear Ai has been running outlines or overall marketing for sometime. We need true writers back >Movies are relegated to grandparents spoiling grandchildren as evident in the poor millenials and X and the revenue of Mario Bros etc
>sequel >sequel >commercial >might b good. nolan has an inflated ego but at least it's an original story. going to bomb anyway >sequel >sequel
don't you see what's happened? there's no novelty anymore, and even when someone produces something new, people are too jaded/ADD/poor to sit and enjoy something
The reason Hollywood keeps producing sequel after sequel after reboot after reboot is because they're scared that people won't go see something original, that they need to be familiar with the product, and that somehow past results are indicative of future performance. >"gayman" and "gayman: The Return" did great at the box office, should we greenlight "Rise of the gayman" or this original story?
if you're a ((shareholder)) or ((studio exec)), what would you do? it's not about the art, or quality, it's about trying to get the best return on investment. What they don't realize is that people will pay to see quality- it doesn't have to be familiar if it's good. Too much of a risk for them, though, even though it means going down with the ship
It should be obvious
why would you pay up to 50 bucks with snacks to sit in a dirty public place with obnoxious people and crying babies when you can pay 15 bucks a month to stream movies at home?
Theatres are obsolete..
becuase it's shit
>100+ posts
>not one fpbp for this
Make better movies, fricking lazy c**ts.
fpbp
woke = broke
it's that easy, israelites
imagine the smell
This guy kept cinema alive for decades
whenever people ask, Why noone said nothing ? Did everybody knew and did shit , why?? The guy headed the whole industry, he was that powerfull that is why.
>this guy made shitty oscarbait for decades
fixed
breddy much
social media and streaming services are more popular than theaters. that's obviously the reason. the same movies being made this year would've pulled good numbers 5 years ago but after COVID everyone would prefer to stay home and scroll through tiktok
>everyone would prefer to stay home and scroll through tiktok
this. zoomers don't even go out anymore, they just like making and watching tiktoks
They cant afford to go out fool.
But touching grass is free
>zoomers are known to be most ADHD and broke generation
>movie studios respond by making every movie 200 minutes minimum instead of 100 like they used to
>and extend number of commercials/trailers in cinemas so that first 30 minutes of every showing is just ads
>all on top of highest ever ticket+popcorn prices
Are movie studios moronic?
Why don't they adjust to audience?
You have to be stupid to keep doing exact opposite of what you should.
It's like they WANT to keep losing money by doing exact opposite of everything you should be doing.
Problem is they're making exactly the same movies since 5 years ago in slightly different variations and even capeshit fans have their limits.
There's a Creed III??
>Adaptation
>Sequel
>Sequel
>Remake
>Sequel
>Sequel
>…
what the frick
What is so surprising about that? That's been Hollywood since 2008. Only now have they started to lose money. That utter slop made billions for over a decade
None of these are good. How are they making so much money?
latin america and asia
zoomers a dont have any money. also these films are trash. native ads for grimace shake are better than indy 5. strange times.
>streaming services are more popular
going to need to see some sauce
The ACE or however the frick it's called has been very busy playing whack a mole with piracy streaming services for a while now. They went to 'nam and shut down 2embed like three days ago, which was a major one.
TF article from yesterday on this;
https://torrentfreak.com/ace-hits-hundreds-of-pirate-streaming-sites-by-shutting-down-2embed-230704/
>the same movies being made this year would've pulled good numbers 5 years ago
I doubt it. Avatar 2 maybe but thats it. Wvwrything has been trash
Yeah it couldn’t possibly be the terrible writing or the 2.5+ run times, or the on-the-nose political commentary.
>the same movies being made this year would've pulled good numbers 5 years ago
I actually agree with this, but not for the reason you think
the movies are as completely shit as they were five years ago, the only difference now is that Hollywood has finally burned through all of their good will
no one wants to go watch the latest bait and switch and no one wants to listen to DEI sermons when people are neck deep in real problems from the recession
>internet
>netflix
By that rationale TV should've killed movies and movies should've killed plays
>Why are movies dying?
Because the industry is controlled by talentless hacks, to a greater degree than in the past. Once there's shake-ups/retrenchments at the studios - or new studios - we'll see good movies again, and they'll do big numbers.
they said this when the TV was invented, then when the vcr was invented, etc
Both of those things had a lasting effect. It wasn't as bad because they still made good movies then.
and it's been declining since
Radio is dead. Live music is dead. Music videos are dead. Free to air TV is dead. Great argument.
OP is not talking about another technology or format taking over, he is talking about the quality of content.
It is about technology though. Movie theaters are dying. By extension that means every major company is losing money and doesn't know what kind of content to produce anymore. Marvel has Avengers movies planned for the next few years but with Disney's losses and the controversies surrounding their lead actor they have no future.
The point is they wouldn't be dying if they simply made fricking movies that people wanted to go see. They control the release of movies. And when there is something that is awesome that people really can't wait for streaming or other home media formats, they will go to the theater. For reference, the last movie I HAD to go see in the theater was Arrival. And that movie came out in 2016. That's how shit movies have gotten.
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!
GET WOKE
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this, ppl are tired of getting woke shit and Black folk getting shoved down their throats
i hate this fricking narrative, and i hate the fricking woke. all these fricking companies were going broken, way before they went woke. they went woke in an attempt to revive themselves
>they went woke in an attempt to revive themselves
Nonsense
They go woke for the same reason they go broke: the people in charge are not concerned with the bottom line or competent to add to it if they tried. It's a bit like that German prince that went mad and spent all the budget on building castles
The northman flopped
I hope disney shoot themselves on a foot and buys all the cinema chains they can
I can see Disney being that moronic.
>Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny would have been profitable if we owned all the theaters it was screening in!"
There was literally a supreme court decision in the 1940s that decided this was illegal, and it was part of what brought an end to the golden age of Hollywood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.
It was overturned a few years ago but no studio wants to be the first one to try and buy out a theater because it could end up a losing proposition for both parties involved. Maybe we'll see a few grand studio-owned movie houses open as vanity projects around the country but I doubt you're gonna see any of them trying to buy out AMC.
What is the relationship between AMC the theater and AMC the channel, if any? That shit has always been confusing to me.
I own AMC Theaters stock, and it's a big coincidence. AMC Theaters is American Multi-Cinema, and AMC Channel is American Movie Classics. They have some kind of agreement not to sue each other for the name.
It was a 3-way deal for AMC with American Motors Company as evidenced by the AMC Pacer being featured in Wayne's World. I've seen the vintage Jeep Grand Wagoneer grossly over-represented in film as well.
I was thinking about a scenario where movie theaters could become larger entertainment centers. They would play more movies from every era and have special dates for those screenings, they could expand and add food courts, they could sponsor social media like Letterboxd, etc. But none of that would ever work, no one wants to go outside, no one even goes to the mall anymore. It's all just fricked.
Yeah this would just expand their overhead by like 1000% for little to no benefit.
What I'm wondering is why theaters don't get in on broadcasting live sports and shit? There would definitely be people who are willing to pay $20 to watch the superbowl or the final 4 on a theater-sized screen.
>They would play more movies from every era and have special dates for those screenings
A lot of them are already doing that.
I saw The Thing in a theater last year.
Movie theaters already have showings of old movies all the time.
That's not that far-off from Alamo Drafthouse and ShowBiz Cinemas' business strategies.
Probably moot at this point. Paramount is owned by a theatre chain already if I'm not mistaken.
>new dark era is when people want to watch movies from home
Idk about Cinemaphile but I’d take streaming services and digital releases just about over anything at this point.
>Make shitty movies
>People stop watching them
It's that simple.
The writers strike is hilarious and could only happen in clown world.
I really hope they find a way to get the writers to come back and write more woke capeshit...
The writers went on strike because nobody wanted to hire them.
so what exactly happens to art if movie theaters die? where are we going to get our storytelling from? TV shows on streaming?
>TV shows on streaming?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
books
literature has been dead for 2 decades
>where are we going to get our storytelling from
lmao
what's so funny
Old movies
>but I've already seen every movie ever made
Nah I don't buy it.
>so what exactly happens to art if movie theaters die?
movies stopped being art decades ago
From your imagination. Time to start playing outside or play with toys again.
It's just an extension of most brick-and-mortar stores dying, except ones where you have an obvious benefit to a physical store (like a clothing store where you can try stuff on, or a grocery store because buying all your groceries on amazon is dumb.) It's honestly baffling that cinemas thought they were immune to the same economic forces that killed blockbuster, especially since people were already complaining about paying $12 for popcorn back in the early 2000s
bad movies
It was me. You can thank me now.
People dont like to go alone to cinema and everyone is so lonely that seeing a couple is suicide fuel
can't you have a nice day faster, and without the pity party?
Please and thanks
Hope your mother got raped and you die of cancer
The entire industry has been moribund since streaming debuted. When major studios started doing streaming-only releases, that was it. The pandemic just sped things up in this regard.
Theaters have always been shit, I much prefer to watch kinos at home. It's safer, cheaper, and comfier.
Havent seen someone use moribund in a long time, nice.
If Hollywood hired me to make real kino the entire industry would be saved.
> the divine comedy miniseries, in original old italian
> the iliad, in classical greek
>rome rome rome
>an idiot save the world
> Boats gone wild
I kneel.
We'd have to murder all normies and women first though, which conicidentally would doom the human species to exctinction.
But the kino would have been worth it.
Mostly societal changes in regards to technology, entertainment/leisure and convenience but the shitty movies are certainly making it happen faster.
because movies are shit nowadays. they're all highly corporatised slop, and while your average consoomer loves to consume their daily slop once you're demanding they go out of their way and pay premium prices to consume it they start to go elsewhere for a more convenient source.
films need to go back to artistic affairs. they also need to stop being cgi shitshows where they require $900 million in profit to be considered a success due to overly-inflated budgets.
movies aren't actually dying, people just aren't willing to pay a premium to watch the sludge that passes for movies at a personal inconvenience any more.
>Entertainment systems at home catching up with cinemas
>Viewers know some movies will hit streaming services in a few months
>Pay stupid movie for the pleasure to be sitted next to hollering monkeys
Yeah
Nu-Hollywood franchise slop is dying. Cinema is about to make a revolutionary comeback.
>video game bubble burst in 1983, leading to the rise of Nintendo and quality video games
So what happens when the movie bubble bursts?
i can see new studios moving out of california and some state passing new favorable laws for the industry, like a fresh beggining
That's been happening for a while now. California loses a percentage of market share a year. Next year they should be under 50 percent for the first time in the last century.
They made a hundred films per year in the 80s and 90s. Now they make over 700 per year.
>Now they make over 700 per year.
I took a conservative guess, but that's my point. Complete and total oversaturation. And also the theater experience is just abysmal in the age of mobile phones. Who would pay those prices to go see a movie in a room with a bunch of current-day Americans?
>current-day Americans
Hey watch the racism, chud
Georgia has a lot of tax incentives and such for filming.
I don't think they've attracted much in the way of big films, but you see a lot of tv shows filming in Georgia now.
Last time Hollywood was on the brink of collapse studios gave directors free rein and we got New Hollywood, the golden age of American film.
We can only hope the same thing happens this time around.
The soys rope themself because their Reddit feminist beliefs failed
game bubble burst in 1983, leading to the rise of Nintendo and quality video games
Your American centered worldview is so funny
What happens when movies stop existing?
south park made an episode on this
and what happened ?
w-why are their noses so. big///?
Movies won't ever fully die-out, but I could see there being fewer movie theaters with them being less-prevalent in modern culture, while most of the heavy hitters are distributed through streaming and the big studios are more conservative with their budgets while giving directors more creative control, much how independent studios like A24 work.
Meanwhile the hi-fi and home theater market will likely start booming among film enthusiasts and you'll be seeing more kinostations with projectors and surround sound systems since no one really can/wants to go to the movie theater anymore.
This is in fact the Hollywood cycle. The studios and producers and projects get more and more bloated, producing ever increasingly worse movies. They will milk the bloated stage for as long as they can, they will push it past the point where a sensible person would have likely changed their approach. Then at first a slow trickle of risk-taking, typically very low budget films start coming out. Directors are usually given greater control over the final product, this is where you get the more novel concepts and movies, the stuff that really wows people. The is the exploratory phase, producers and other high-ups admit they don't know what the public wants, so they let directors of all stripes take a crack at it. Once they have some hits they'll start moving back to the bloat stage. Identify a formula or set of variables, start doing that over and over again.
This shit has already happened at least two times before in cinemas relatively short lifespan. Big difference this time is scale. Hollywood has never had access to markets like China and India before in the way they do now, and they've seen that the tail end of this bloated phase has had newfound success in foreign markets. So they want to try and capture all of that marketshare before they have to start cutting back. China and India have kept the studios afloat for probably close to a decade longer than they should have.
gee i wonder why young people don't go to the theater anymore
They're playing video games instead.
Gamers Rise Up
And games are the worst they have ever been. Thanks capitalism.
>he plays games that are less than 8 years old
ISHYGDDT
Did I say that? Work on your reading comprehension you fricking ape
>I know recent games are bad even though I'm smart enough to know better
whew, that's me told!
I don't have to play recent games to know that they're shit. For most of them you don't even have to watch gameplay footage to know that.
For example, it doesn't take a genius to know that Far Cry 6 is a reskin of Far Cry 3, same as every title in between.
plenty of small teams still make good games that arent zogged out with microtransactions and battle pass nonsense
yeah there are at least still some indie devs
yeah thanks zoom-zooms and moronic parents who buy their children garbage games
Thanks customers.
ftfy
Is that TikTok? I hate TikTok.
Lack of exceptional scripts and the talent at director to produce them.
>help provoke fear and subservience during a weak pandemic
>do this so you can profit off the streaming services of people at home because they’re chained up inside
>people realize your disgusting Black persontopian expensive theaters are shit and want to keep streaming
>NOOOO HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO US
That line was so cringey. For one stealing something from someone and calling it yours isn't capitalism. If anything it would have made for a better colonialism joke as that entire process involves taking land and resources to support the incoming colonists over the needs of whoever or whatever lives there.
They make 100 movies a year. 2 are worth watching. Neither of those two are good enough to pay $60 in a theater for. They make enough tv shows in 1 year to entertain you until the end of your life, and no one watches any of it. Idk, what do you think?
>the COVID pandemic may be responsible
yeah sure thats the reason
When is Nolan going to write an Op-Ed for the New York Times about how we need to save cinema and theaters? Before or after Oppenheimer bombs?
>Before or after Oppenheimer bombs?
Carlos you son of a b***h.
Because they only make terrible movies now.
film is dying bros... literally...
>suicide attempt
>dead
I would say that was a suicide success
>the dub actor for the Mandarin version
This is next level clickbait.
Today my Mom, who can barely use a phone, said she is sick of tv shows and how lazy it is that they only make 12 episodes now. If she has caught on, there is no one in the dark, anymore.
Too many mediocre people are involved in making it. The newly arrived, from execs to producers to writers to directors to cgi supervisors and animator are derivative and inept.
>Why are movies dying
>Why are video games dying
>Why is music dying
>etc etc
Its simple, Society is dying
Oh it's way more than entertainment. I'm scared to even cross paths with strangers these days. Something is deeply wrong in America. A social contagion that is in the final stages.
What do you mean anon? Sure, we may be going through a period of demographic displacement, a collapse of fertility and gender relations, the decline of art and entertainment, a rejection of our own history, widespread mental illness, endemic loneliness for the youth and addiction to media consumption, but that doesn't mean society is in decline. This is the greatest society that has ever existed! Life is better than ever under liberal democracy.
you forgot climate change
Name one movie actually worth seeing in theaters in the past 5 years.
That's why.
Phone lines were down, they already addressed this. Also, he thought he wished his parents away and God was giving him a test
I miss Trevor and his tweets
Top Gun: Maverick
Star Wars Episode 4
going to movies are a social event that thrives under a highly social population. everyone rn are lonely atomized shutins
Why would I watch a new movie in theaters when I can watch seasons 1-5 of the X-Files for the 100th time?
I frickin kneel (between Gillian Anderson's thighs).
for me it's 96
Nice
She's pretty much a living, breathing work of art at that point. I'm on season 3 of The X-Files right now and sometimes she's so beautiful it's stunning, like I will literally just say WHAT THE FRICK out loud. Not in a lewd way, she's more like a sculpture than anything.
93,
97,
05,
16 daaamn,
19
Only woman i've seen that looks better with age
the internet's first waifu still going strong
Because all the movies out are dogshit
Like most executive subhumans, they thought they could crank out the same shit over and over forever without any kind of innovation and expected to make infinite profit. Now we have to hear endless articles about the end of cinema because some dogshit company can't make a good movie.
I can only tell you this- I don't watch movies anymore, aside from the occasional new release from Tarantino. My screen-time is divided between classic TV shows and video games. Every time I see something new I feel that it pales in comparison to the older material from which it draws inspiration. I know "soulless" is a meme but honest to God, that's how things have felt for a long time.
>Every time I see something new I feel that it pales in comparison to the older material from which it draws inspiration. I know "soulless" is a meme but honest to God, that's how things have felt for a long time.
I've been saying for years that all innovation ended in about '97, give or take. The digital age and the Internet age killed everything. It's been all downhill for art since the late '90s. There was a decent period in 2007-2010, but it was a dead-cat bounce.
For about five years now I've spent my media time enjoying the absolute cream of the crop of older shows and games and it has been amazing. I truly think there's enough 10/10 older media out there that if no more was ever made that'd be ok by me.
Same. Not into vidya, but I have been just building my collection of blu-rays and watching old stuff. I am always finding awesome movies from decades past that I haven't seen yet. It's gotten so bad nowadays that I have trouble even finding something made in the past 15 years that I can even watch for longer than 15 mins. The past 3-4 new-release movies I've tried to watch I have turned off before the half-hour mark because they are literally insufferable.
I went through a Korean movie phase about 10 years ago that was pretty exciting because I was watching a bunch of "new"-ish movies of very high quality that had never been on my radar before. It never hurts to go international.
Yep. Koreans had a good run there around 2005-2015. Japanese movies from the '90s were great. Nordic movies were also good around 2010.
Same
now all those Korean movies are getting sequels and it's different
Korean movies and dramas are even more formulaic and souless than MCU.
most movies are souless sequels that they either plug wholesale changes for the sake of diversity or cheap rehashes
anything "new" is (again) intentionally not aimed at me, basically saying "this movie isn't for white straight men! frick you! LMAO"
then when nobody watches it, they call me a racist or a sexist
i still like movies, it's just dishonest to put out lazy shit rehashes created by focus groups and diversity hires then blame the audience or the pandemic when nobody wants to see it
and i hate to sound like an old man, but movie tickets were $5 when i was in high school in 07, popcorn another $8 or so max. that will probably get you one bottle of water now, I don't want to pay 3x what i paid back then for an inferior product that insults its audience
Paying $400 million to make fricking Superman movies wasn’t going to be sustainable, and it’s astounding it worked as long as it did.
>you vill sheetpost on zee Cinemaphile television and film board and not interact at zee movie theater and vee happy
you will recycle the reddit meme
i would go if it meant disruptive people get vaporized
it's definitely the flu virus that even the most pathetic tv brains stopped caring about a year and a half ago and not the fact that hollywood has produced almost nothing but garbage for the better part of a decade
Cause it's like $30 to see dogshit that tells me I'm a bad person.
Because new movies are shit
You see, if you go to the movies once, you pay one time and that's that. The film ends and you go home. If you subscribe to Netflix/HBOMAXXX/Disney+ you have a fee you pay every month in perpetuity. You stop paying, your access is terminated. It's as simple as that.
Cos movies are an investment/money laundering industry.
Plenty of amazing movies have been made on a budget of 20-40 million. 300 million dollar movies are BULLSHIT.
This. I refuse to believe this cost $225 million.
remember most big scenes are rendered almost a dozen times, one for every innane change demanded by the studio
When their feet come together I kind of expect it to be a commercial for some energy drink
>Monster: Speedforce
>nuuuuuu, we definitely needed all three thousand of these vfx artists
Star Wars, the original movie, was made on a budget of 11 miljoen USD. Granted, the movies did increase in cost with every new installment. But even return of the Jedi was "Only" 32 million. The fact things have gotten more, rather than less, expensive since then really makes me wonder who the frick is getting payed for what.
OP photoshopped an article even though he could have done a search and found actual articles like
in ten seconds. Why did you even bother? Why are you such a homosexual?
What will replace cinema bros?
Some kind of first person experience homosexualry like that Apple goggle shit, but that won't be till like 2040.
It's ADHD. ain't nobody got time for 2 hours plus of movie watching, especially if they are all shit too. If I want cutscenes galore I play a kojima game.
Green screen killed the Silver screen.
1. People are poor. They can’t afford to see every movie. So they pick which few they can. Especially since movie theaters are expensive. Also the US are in a recession.
2. Most of the movies out look/are terrible. Especially with CGI these days being so awful. They aren’t worth seeing.
3. Many people wait for movies to come to streaming. Especially Disney movies since Disney+ exists. It is a hassle to drive to the theater.
4. China has given up on Hollywood and blocked many of their movies. So that is a loss of revenue.
>Why are movies dying?
Went woke, going broke.
How many years have been the Year Cinema Dies? When are we gonna tie desktop Linux going mainstream for number of false predictions?
How many movies made money this year? And it did die during covid and it hasn't bounced back.
Life must truly be sad for righties since they can’t enjoy jackshit
If they were happy they wouldn't be righties in the first place.
people dont want to go out
people are poorer than ever
maybe figure out how to make interesting movies and not spend $300 million doing it, they used to make great movies for like $20 million in the 90s
The hubris of greed.
woke culture
Obviously, they want you to but a ticket and a subscription.
But they got (too) greedy.
>replace all white actors with shitskins
>OMG WHY IS HOLLYWOOD DYING? 🙁
nice shop homosexual!
got some bad news for you anon, nearly 50% of america isn't white they don't care what race the actors it's not important to them.
I think you meant writers
why would I go to the cinema box when movies are given a home release within a month (and sometimes even 2 weeks) now?
Like everything else: Boomers and catabolic collapse, "something for nothing."
Boomers are narcissists so they have a subconscious need for the world to end when they end. Their narcissism can't tolerate ever being eclipsed (despite social media making zoomers far worse). They will slam the door on their way out. That's why they're handing the world to diversity hires. They expect things to be worse without them and believe it needs to be for humanity to move forward (they just never wanted to sacrifice for it) and they're possibly the last generation who will be in a position to use power in this way which is why they're so committed on ramming so much through at the end.
I have 25 TBs of films and television shows. Even if theater's and streaming died right now, I have plenty of entertainment for the rest of my life.
Because going to theaters has ALWAYS been shit. Way before netflix ever started mailing people DVDs (remember that?) I wanted to be able to watch movies at home.
There is now no reason to ever go to a theater short of big "experience" movies like Top Gun Maverick in Laser IMAX
Weren't the late 70s/early 80 particularly awful?
Are you high?
Yes.
Bad writing, simple as.
yea keep making those Disney slop and woke shit
Everything's dying. Games, music, books, we live in a terminally ill society and the degradation of culture is just one facet of that. If you think it's bad now just wait till you see where we are in five years.
I miss Slavoj Zizek posting
frick your always wrong spiting balkan commie
german toilet has a poop shelf
anglo toilet poop goes under water and out of the way, utilitarian
*sniffle
IDEOLOGY
he isn't wrong but he also has a huge blind spot for experts.
Sarah Gadon has 9 upcoming movies. She'll save cinema.
Sarah Gadon's next movie, North Of Normal is in theatres July 28th!!!!
Sarah Gadon is also appearing in Michael Mann's new film Ferrari, which is reportedly premiering at the Venice Film Festival in a couple months.
Praise Sarah Gadon! Savior of cinema!
it's definitely not because they keep releasing complete garbage
ignoring the whole diversity bullshit it's because writers are fricking unoriginal hacks and people have access to much better older movies so why bother paying for new dogshit?
This will be her iron defense.
How is she a story teller? She doesn't even fricking write.
The 2020s is shaping up to be a completely soulless decade
They’ve been pretty fricking horrid. And it’s just gonna get worse from here.
Heeeey, just like the two decades before it.
Movies are getting worse and worse while movie theaters keep getting more and more expensive.
It's like a perfect parallel for life right now. Our infrastructure and quality of life gets worse each year and yet there is no end to the price hikes, new taxes, inflation, etc.
no one wants to buy wokeslop. Its like in enting a new icecream flavour called AIDs. No one wants it.
>flavour
opinion about literally anything summarily discarded
Shitty films
shittier social standards leading to people and especially Black folks being annoying in the cinema
I wonder if most people would prefer a cinema experience that was more like an opera box, than sitting in rows in an auditorium. It would be a premium service but it could mitigate a lot of the worst behaviour of other patrons.
I've also wondered if more of a private karaoke room type set up would be successful. Smaller rooms that cater to 4-20 people, room service, drinks and you can pause the film if you want.
because one French Black person didn't kill himself and spare humanity man made horrors beyond our comprehension.
covid fricking people up
>Why are movies dying?
1. Hollywood refuses to make good movies for some dumb reason
2. Streaming is more convenient
3. Too much forced diversity aka Black folk
>lights go dark
>this comes on
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Wooow, so you are saying the revenue source of media-megacorps is dying off and we have to ... le gasp ... rely again on mainly indie pieces of cultural artifice?
WOKE movies are dying. non-woke movies like top gun maverick, avatar 2, and mario bros all made a shitzillion dollars.
most big franchises have been taken over by talentless soulless people (women) that absolutely loathe what used to be the target audience of these ips (white men).
normalgays have slowly been waking up to this since the mid 10s and thanks to the pandemic they have realized how little sense there in on wasting $20+ on cinemas to watch movies that shit on them and the things they like.
this is also why manga and eastern media in general like korean stuff have become more popular than ever. very surreal to hear sports watching normies and females at work talking about the last anime ep they saw.
>die for Israel goy propaganda
>anti-colonial, anti-white propaganda
>stonk wymyn propaganda for children
>not woke
LOL
They just need to make people pay to stream the movies and not stream them for free for like 5 years
Top Gun and Spiderverse prove that good movies still fill theaters most movies are just anti white/male/hero feminist garbage. Legitimately. They’re just political fronts for advocates rather than being primarily about entertainment. That’s the problem. That’s the only real problem. They’re being written by people with agendas instead of people who want to make a fun story.
yes because TOP GUN has no agenda or political context, totally
Top Gun is not a product of political advocacy you disingenuous maggot.
One of my favorite games recently is Unsighted. A little Zelda + Metroid style game about lesbian brown robots. It hits all the diversity quotas of black science woman and fat and skinny and even a fricking robot in a wheelchair. And I didn’t mind it at all because the game never once mentions it or virtue signals that simply is the world and it’s extremely well designed as a game to boot. It was made by people with an obvious political slant but they weren’t there to browbeat or advocate they were there to make a really good game. Spiderverse is extremely diverse but it never gets in the way of the actual movie.
The same simply cannot be said about Disney movies. KK is running the company into the ground because of her insane political advocacy.
no one asked
Wrong board
See what makes Unsighted so good is it’s extremely open ended and knowledge based. The game drip feeds you mechanics or never tells you them at all, but you can experiment with it. My first play through took about 7 minutes but the speedrun for glitchless takes slightly more than 30 to get the true ending because if you know what you’re doing, you can skip 97% of the puzzles and rooms. It’s so amazingly well designed, with responsive and fun combat, and it just works so well. It’s designed to be cheesed. You can play it legit, you can also just avoid the ice block puzzles or cheese them with environmental boxes you can pick up and drop. Really a master class in indie even though it was made by gay communists. Unless Indy, which suffers from being made by gay communists who felt the need to more or less tell you they are instead of telling a good story.
7 hours* for the first play through not 7 minutes.
>One of my favorite games recently is Unsighted. A little Zelda + Metroid style game about lesbian brown robots. It hits all the diversity quotas of black science woman and fat and skinny and even a fricking robot in a wheelchair. And I didn’t mind it at all because the game never once mentions it or virtue signals that simply is the world and it’s extremely well designed as a game to boot
This is usually just a white liberal male's fetish disguised as political activism.
When people say agenda or political they mean gay globohomosexual Marxism cultural in a polite way and everyone know this except the mentally ills
Top Gun is literally the Battle of Lake Changjin for Americans lol
And it’s not gay communist propaganda based on self hatred and internalized guilt so people fricking loved it even non Americans. What’s your point?
I'd go to the movies if they weren't all just seeping with contempt for their audience on every level, either insultingly moronic, written by some over medicated writer who is venting their contempt for the average person, or just a vehicle for someone else's politics. I want to be entertained not lectured.
>global recession heading into total irreversible depression that will turn the entire world into third world tier hellholes
I don't know why.
unironically the last good movie that came out imo was in 2016
close, 2017
Movie quality and inflation. With prices of everything having gone up so much everyone is looking at where to cut back and it not make much difference to their life and a lot of people see going to the movies as not much more than watching it at home.
>MOVIE THEATERS ARE DYING GUYS
>EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL GOOD MOVIES LIKE SUPER MARIO BROS, TOP GUN 2 AND SPIDERMAN HOMECOMING
Those are 3 movies and 2 of them are not particularly good
box office is the factor here, not your pleb opinions
Lucas was right. Theaters will become like sports arenas where only big budget action movie blockbusters play and anything else will be relegated to the smaller, independent ones.
Cinemas are NOT dying,
Shitty gay woke movies are!
Mario Bros a big hit , among others, but all thr shit Disney and WB drop, fail , frick the woke shit, frick the rainbow bullshit, the ride stop
I do love how most Cinemaphile threads these days are filled with posts you’d find from boomers in Facebook comment sections
Because boomer movies were objectively better. Society and culture have rotted and degenerated to the point where there is no progress. Older stuff was made by people who cared about artistry and satisfying an audience. Modern shit is rife with blatant political agendas, hack writing and sloppy execution. There's been a significant drop off in quality the last 20 years.
>Stop funding novel and unique movies.
>Make nothing but cheap, short sighted cash grabs that ruin consumer confidence.
>Blames everything but themselves.
Classic.
The advent of digital cinematography has removed any mystique or charm from movies.
Movies now require $250,000,000 budgets with extreme advertisement campaigns to compete with movies that used to cost $250,000 shot on film, and even when one turns a profit, it's dismal and shortsighted because there's no lasting appeal, nothing profound.
Boomers found out about Epstein pedo island and Hollywood sex ring
Movies are too expensive. Either you go on Tuesday or you don't go at all.
funny..you'd think the plandemic would have caused more movie watching..nice try though..get woke go broke
yet avatar TWOW and top gun 2 were massive successes.
Maybe make good movies instead of blaming the pandemic?
2 movies in one year making bank isn't a good sign movies are doing okay.
>mmmm non woke movies are doing bank
>woke movies are flopping
>I don't know what conclusion to draw from this information
>Avatar
>Not woke
Are you fricking kidding me? Shit was woke back in 2009 before that was a term
why watch a movie when I can watch videos of a guy play mario and try not to collect any of the coins for 2 hours and have more fun
Being a shit head has become more acceptable to people via social media.
so theaters are more disruptive than ever
Zoomies cant sit down.
Shit AAA films that demand so many screens
The monopoly by Disney homogenized the market; and now that market has become fatigued. meaning theaters shit profits.
Also you have AMC execs laughing their asses off as people are trying to meme stock instead of working about actually improving the theater going experience
The entire industry treating Everything Like content that is replaced the next week. No one willing to invest time in actually marketing films outside of a few big ones .
I think we are gonna see far more video game movies this next 2 years the Mario success stamped that. They'll shove nostalgia down our wieners
>Zoomies cant sit down.
frick me i made the horrible mistake of going to see GotG 3 at 3pm on a Saturday and literally half the theatre was zoomers who had obviously been sent there as some form of daycare. throwing shit, using the flashlights on their phones, shouting during quiet scenes, you name it. I had almost forgotten how bad it could be. If cinemas want my money than have zoomer-only screening and ban them from the others.
went to watch fricking fear and loathing at the local cinema and some obvious 15yo was just throwing the worst quips the whole time, he was escorted out kf the cinema lol.
I am poor
I cannot justify going to the cinema to see all the films I'm interested in
I know this will sound pathetic but I couldn't even justify seeing Dune even though I had waited 10 years for it to be made
I looked into it, people told me to see it at imax but the tickets were too much
Recently I watched the films Breathless and The Wicker Man on my local broadcasters streaming site and they were both great, I especially love Breathless
It was free
Don't be ashamed of being poor.
I guarantee you lead a more wholesome existence because of it.
For me, it's because of pajeets flooding the theaters. Nobody wants to be trapped in a room with them smelling their godawful stench for hours.
GOOD MORNING SIR
Because people are trying to “impact” the “culture” instead of producing a film that works on its own merits
99.9% of them suck. It used to be only 99%.
They've made 0 movies i'd actually want to watch on the big screen. I'm not paying to watch Black folk and w*men with le angry screaming face
i'm still more than willing to go to the cinema, just not for the absolute dogshit they're showing in there these days. The only movie I've gone to see this year is the new Spiderverse.
whatever the reason, it needs to die quicker
also 90% of the time a baby is brought to theater its by a mexican or african american. Meaning they either cant afford a baby sitter or they are just shitty. Id like to assume the first but typically they have larger families.
Don't get me wrong, I love cinemas but it would be so much better if everything came to streaming services instantly, I could watch new releases for free cause they'd get pirated instantly.
thats why they dont do it moron
What do you think kinoplexes will turn into? High end strip clubs? Spirit Halloweens?
Won't be office space anyway, wfh gonna do away with that.
>kinoplexes get revamped into less subtle re-education camps
amazon warehouses
those are closing too
What happened during covid again?
oh left-wingers were united to making 80% of the working class unemployed so multi-billion dollar Pharmaceutical corporations could make billions more.
they dont make good ones anymore
The future of theaters is VR anyway.
No, not for quite a while. Not until wearing a vr headset is as unobtrusive as a pair of glasses.
they're shit simple as.
My gf just scrolls phone all day and pretends to watch movies while actually reading summaries on Wikipedia.
Top Gun and Mario did big numbers. Horrors still do routinely well, and that weird Jennifer Lawrance boner comedy did better than expected by the studio.
It's just hollyisraelite's big pozzed tentpoles tanking.
If they want people's money, actually make something that people want to see.
Pretty much this. All they need to do is make better movies and/or the ticket prices need to come down. I dont mind paying higher prices for good movies, but Im not going to even consider it with the state of the things right now.
Stop making Woke crap and cinema wouldn't be dying.
I’m still really pissed off they didn’t make barbie black! Hollywood was on a role blackwashing america. Can we all unite and boycott this movie
Hot take coming through: Perhaps people actually got good sound equipment during COVID so they feel less inclined to pay 20 bucks for a theatre ticket now but instead simply watch their kino at home. At least that's what killed theatres for me in the past. A pair of Sennheiser HD800S + 3000 Euro DAC/AMP combination. None of the films I'd be interested in seeing screen in theatres with sound setups good enough to match that experience. If every normie spent a couple grand on a 70 inch OLEDs and a proper sound system during COVID, why'd they still go to the movies? It's not like either are unaffordable anymore.
>normie
>spent a couple grand on a 70 inch OLEDs
Is that a normie thingy?
Depends whether it's actually as good as the movies. My bet is you're a homosexual
movies stopped being something designed to entertain & invoke complex emotions, and became something to score brownie points with progressives. They're vapid vehicles for left-wing ideologies and people are tired of it, even those who are left-wing. People just want apolitical movies again so they can forget about how shit everything is. That's why the mario movie did so well.
because u havent preordered 10 barbie tickets
Jews
>EGS Black personism/troonyism/white man hate
>Millennials and late Boomers that cant write a decent scenario to save themselves
>Big ass budgets that lead to safe and watered down products
>CGI pajeet studios
>Zoomers and millennials with short attention span due to social media
>Tickets and foods got way too expensive
>My 4k OLED TV+my sound system+the comfort of my home
theater's stupid screen+the hassle to book a ticket+the annoying moviegoers that cant shut the frick up
I give cinema 15years tops. I expect shorter movies(like 30-40mins) in the future as a desperate attempt to appeal to zoomers.
Oh well, enjoy the last few kinos that come out here and there before the end
I said WATCH the racism, chud. Last warning.
Because I don't want to spend my time watching movies in a hall packed with people who much on something all the time, burp from soda and laugh at quips. Home watching is preferable and I don't care for director autism about it being made for the big screen.
Already made all the good ones. Shut it down.
Too expensive. I can buy a bottle of brandy, coke, ice and a pizza for a night of movies at home for the same or less than it would cost to drive to the cinema, buy a ticket and pay for snacks.
Its been said many times in this thread but I will say it again. The movies are shit. I have two theaters that are locally owned and operated as a non-profit and I would love to support them more but I am not going to pay for garbage.
Although I did see Asteroid City recently and that was good enough but it was exception that proves the rule.
Maybe stop with the printed money and the ESG bullshit and I will watch more films.
Cinemas are dying because it is so much more comfortable now to watch movies on my big TV at home. Movies are dying because everyone is tired of the same mediocre bullshit over and over. Plus, movies have far more competition now, youtube, vidya, tiktok, etc all offer cheaper and more instant gratification than spending 30+ per person for 2 hours in the cinema.
>it's because of covid itself, not the inflation caused by lockdowns and the war, not the mass hiring of incomptetent people, not greedy companies that don't give a frick about the art they're selling, and certainly not the pushing of an unpalatable regressive-liberal message.
Are they dying or does it just seem that way? I mean, how much shit did the average movie-goer in the 70s have to wade through to get to gems like Star Wars or The Godfather? Likewise, we now have to wade through a lot of shit to find gems like Ford v Ferrari or Top Gun.
Plus we have more choice now with streaming platforms offering their own movies, more experimental stuff is more likely to be tried there instead of the cinema. So now we have to search more to find the gems rather than having them all located in one convenient place.
And it doesn't help that the good stuff is barely advertised or tlaked about any more, I never heard of Extraction or Sisu until someone reviewed it on YT. Certainly, Cinemaphile vastly prefers complaining about shit movies, and giving them attention, instead of talking about good non-woke movies.
>record high ticket prices during a recession
gee i wonder why
Less incentive for normal people to attend cinema since they seem to cater to blacks now.
Movies were always garbage, it's just that normies are finally catching up.
>Why are movies dying?
starts with n, followed by i, followed by g...
ger?
its more that its over $100 to take risk on a medicore film, but the viewing experience is indeed shit
Too much diversity, I am not gonna pay money to go watch a bunch of black people.
>all 3 of the highest grossing films of all time have black people in lead roles
>8 of the top 10 star black people in lead roles
>/tvpol/: "No ONe WAntS TO sEE BlAcK PeOPle in fIlmS gO woKe go bROKe"
The top is a black in prison, Realistic. Believing spiderverse is a GOAT lawl
There are blacks in Avatar? Also, I don't remember any black leads in Avengers, just side-characters at best.
>There are blacks in Avatar?
There's no way you're actually this dumb
>I don't remember any black leads in Avengers
Oh nevermind
there are a few reasons ive concluded
>Capitalism working in the consumers favor, so much content, a film is worth maybe a nickel to stream it. The value isnt in the content its in the delivery method
>There are no movie stars. Social media removed the veil and most actors are out of touch midwits virtue signaling
>inserted politics to make the populace hyperpolitically aware bc orange man bad
>Lack of theater innovation. Frickers should have 4D or 7D experiences. The only benefit now is sound and who tf wants nolans soundmixing
>My OLED LG is insane i can not be sold on a resolution as the drawing point to a theater.
>Its clear Ai has been running outlines or overall marketing for sometime. We need true writers back
>Movies are relegated to grandparents spoiling grandchildren as evident in the poor millenials and X and the revenue of Mario Bros etc
people don't want to pay to watch propaganda. Also, piracy is easier than ever.
piracy explains streaming not the decline of theaters, i have a 10tb server and i would see something worth seeing in Imax
>a few Hollywood companies keep churning bad films
>therefore cinema all over the world is dying
Cinema haha
Good let it die. People will still make films but not as many Hollywood shit will be produced. Good riddance
Because Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.
I like going to the cinema. But so far this year there hasn't been any interesting releases so I haven't gone.
>Insidious: The Red Door
>Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning
>Barbie
>Oppenheimer
>Expendables 4
>Dune: Part Deux
Cinema bros, we are so back.
>sequel
>sequel
>commercial
>might b good. nolan has an inflated ego but at least it's an original story. going to bomb anyway
>sequel
>sequel
don't you see what's happened? there's no novelty anymore, and even when someone produces something new, people are too jaded/ADD/poor to sit and enjoy something
The reason Hollywood keeps producing sequel after sequel after reboot after reboot is because they're scared that people won't go see something original, that they need to be familiar with the product, and that somehow past results are indicative of future performance.
>"gayman" and "gayman: The Return" did great at the box office, should we greenlight "Rise of the gayman" or this original story?
if you're a ((shareholder)) or ((studio exec)), what would you do? it's not about the art, or quality, it's about trying to get the best return on investment. What they don't realize is that people will pay to see quality- it doesn't have to be familiar if it's good. Too much of a risk for them, though, even though it means going down with the ship
$50 says those two are hambeasts now
Because of pirates and far right extremists.
It should be obvious
why would you pay up to 50 bucks with snacks to sit in a dirty public place with obnoxious people and crying babies when you can pay 15 bucks a month to stream movies at home?
Theatres are obsolete..