Why are Muslims so sensitive about the depiction of Islam and prophets in media?
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Why are Muslims so sensitive about the depiction of Islam and prophets in media?
Why are Muslims so sensitive about the depiction of Islam and prophets in media?
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They're already getting a lot of flack for being brown. Islamophobia will only justify racism against them
Because they have a shallow and rather sensitive religion. Even one of the more relaxed Muslims I knew was pissed when I noted about calling a stick figure Muhammad.
>Even one of the more relaxed Muslims I knew was pissed
Goodbye anon.
maybe they want it to be painted in full color
which is also not a skill everybody has, as of now.
My question is why are non-Muslims now sensitive to it? Burning the Koran and making fun of Muhammad was less notable than bible burning and shitting on Jesus. Now, the way people act, it is almost a hate crime to make fun of Muslims while shitting on Christians is the same as ever.
1. Because Muslims are brown and therefore sacred
2. Violence works and the terrorists proved that and won
Pretty much yeah.
>now
>book borning
It's funny how desperate for attention fedora wearers are to show the world that they are still in their teenage rebelious phase
No other religion try to go for beheading as first choice of punishment.you can make fun of Christians and Hindus. But won't get scared of dying for life. How many muslims came out and said beheading is wrong? Most of them just b***hes about Islamophobia.
you had a poin 20 years ago
20 years ago how the frick do you call yourselves progressive?
Religious people in general are insane
No one comes close to the muslims.
So random OP. Did a Muslim slap your sister's ass or something?
Because the koran literally forbids art of the prophet muhammad. historically it stems from muhammad being asspained about all the mad shit that artists would dunk on him before the sandBlack person pedophile cult got enough power to kill them outright.
lol only sunnis believe this, Shias don't care
>only sunnis
That's the majority of Muslims.
sadly true
shia art is very beautiful ngl
yeh I agree. I think in Iraq they have like galleries or contests for art pieces but I'm not actually sure
I don't give a shit about this thread, I just wanted to say that picture is fricking gorgeous god damn.
I'm Christian so it doesn't make sense for me to take a side but if I had to choose I feel like Shia is the "correct" Islam insofar as such a thing exists. Not only do Shias have more art and generally more integration of philosophy and intellectualism, but in Shia view Islam actually has a concrete lineage post-Muhammad whereas in Sunni the succession looks more like a weird manmade powergrab.
Those r/exwhatever subreddits are the whiniest frickers on reddit and that's a fricking accomplishment. At least r/atheism tries to make atheism as an assertion look positive; the exwhatever reddits are literally just entirely b***hing about being raised in a religion like a whiny child.
Anglo troon detected
The third commandment literally says the same thing though. The problem is Christians just recognize the symbol of the commandments but can’t even read ten fricking sentences.
>Third commandment
Neither can you moron, we are talking about Muhammad not Allah.
Actually it says "do not worship artistic depictions of anything, it's just a statue/painting bruh".
But you're probably a butthurt Protestant who thinks a stained glass window of a Saint is somehow the same as "worship".
Their religion's prophet is a warmongering pedophile slavemaster so they'll naturally think and act like one.
Yes not like the saint westoids who definitely aren't finding new ways to shove HRT down childrens throats and teach them to be bug chasers
I too wish I could live in your fantasy world anon
Yes trannon it's all a fantasy
Clearly it is because your pic doesn’t back your argument at all
Where’s the story about teaching about the wonders of bugchasing?
Because their shitty religion and culture has permitted them to be psychotic buttholes. It doesn't help that enough of them are inbred.
Good, maybe if christards acted like muslims they'd be more respected and feared by liberal trannies and not be a laughing-stock
The whole country would be in ruins, just like the muslim countries. Minus the countless bombings.
Better than have your children be taught about the various ways of gay sex in schools jej
Countries with gay rights have a higher quality of life than Islamic nations or shitholes like Russia or Uganda. If you want to live in such a place moved there, you obvious westerner
Neither are good. There's always a third option. You will never be muslim.
Yeah I’d rather not live in a backwardsass country full of bearded weirdos that like to pretend it’s the 6th century
You'll live in a country with a bunch of funny hat-wearing cross bearing pedos who pretend it's the 15th century?
I’d rather not live in either. I’d rather live in a progressive western society. Something that even all those anti-gay rightoids and anti-western leftoids form the west are very hesitant to give up
Says the pedophile troony
Reddit Atheist's wont even go the miles Charlie Hebdo will, for fricks sake they got shot up and they still do art
Something tells me you don't browse r/exmuslim
Does anyone here have that image of a Muslim badge while that offensive stereotypical image of a israelite looking over at someone just started Ice image of Muhammad and saying do you know how racist that is?
Because Islam isn’t being murdered so much as it is actively committing suicide. Believe it or not Muslims did actually used to have a civilization. Christians went to Moorish Spain to study at their schools, Islamic art was the envy of the world, and Arabic literature and poetry were second to none. https://spectator.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/scruton0506c.pdf
What exactly happened is up for debate but the death date seems to have been around the sixties and fifties. Islamic art and culture just fricking died. If’ as some yahoo claimed, this is a clash of civilizations between the West and Islam than Islam never showed up. The modern jihadi is precisely that:modern. He owes more to Marx than Mohammed and more closely follows the writings of Che than the Koran.
I'll blame the Muslim Brotherhood.
Extremists took over.
Because Islamic culture has been fully hijacked by an extremist movement that started in Egypt in the late 19th Century largely as an anti-British and anti-Ottoman movement, which gradually spread throughout the region as it felt increasingly at odds with a globalized civilization based largely in Western thought that could easily replace "British" and "Ottoman" with any non-Islamic ideal. Islam historically was a lot more chill and even as late as the 1970s most Muslim women didn't cover themselves and drinking was common. The Saudis were among the first people to fully embrace this extremist ideal and they used their oil wealth to help spread it, even though some of what they believed would be viewed as heretical even by mainstream Muslims today. For example, they came within a hair's width of bulldozing Mohammad's tomb for being idolatry, like actually desecrating his corpse and everything.
It really didn't have to be this way, but that's what it's come to. As an aside Islam is very rapidly losing popularity with the youth in Islamic countries, so it seems like they're getting sick of how bad things have gotten. Official demographic data for those countries regularly places them at over 99% of the population because of weird quirks (for example, in Turkey you're automatically registered as Muslim at birth and you have to pay a fee to have the state recognize you as non-Muslim, which most people don't do because it's such a minor thing and the economy in Turkey is trash right now), but private polling shows that in some countries Islam has fallen to as low as 60% of the overall population, mostly in North Africa.
i think this best sums it up, thanks anon
Yeah that was a really extremely basic summary but I tried my best, the situation in the Islamic world is extremely complicated and you actually need to read books to understand how things got to where they are today.
Didnt Turkey abolishing the Caliphate also lead to the rise of Islamization?
With Ataturk ending the Caliph Muslims from all over the world where now in a state of an identity crisis, some went towards nationalism (like Nasser), while others went to Islamization.
>For example, they came within a hair's width of bulldozing Mohammad's tomb for being idolatry, like actually desecrating his corpse and everything.
Holy Shit. Did the rest of the Muslim world threaten to kick the Saudi Familys' teeth in if they wen't through with it?
Saudia Arabia fricking sucks man
Saudis are the biggest degens in the world. They'll larp as pious people and than open 50 brothels
hmm, maybe the central powers should have one ww1
Why? The Ottoman Empire was bound to fall even without the war. It was an empire in decline
just postulating
>As an aside Islam is very rapidly losing popularity with the youth in Islamic countries
Lmao what a cope
Islam is still 99% of the population of middle east without dropping one single point, the number of muslims is increasing every year in africa, europe and asia, the number of christians is dropping everywhere but east asia where Islam is growing faster, the number of atheists and non religious is already starting to drop in both europe and asia, 20s year old muslims are more conservative and religious than 40s and 60s muslims, it's over, the future is muslim
I like how you ignored anon both addressing that and providing reasoning for why that's not the case in the very next sentence. You don't seem vested in pushing your own narrative at all.
Kek I've personally known plenty of people from the Middle Esst that ditched Islam to know that the official numbers are bullshit. Look up literally any private survey and Islam even in THE most Islamic countries is never 99%. The official statistics are bullshit and he even explained why you Muslimgay.
As a half-Tunisian, lol, lmao even. Most young people in Tunisia are only culturally Muslim with a huge chunk of them being atheists in private, if it wasn't for the constitution recognizing Islam as the sole national religion the reported statistics would be way different. Algeria, Morocco, and Libya I can personally confirm are all in similar situations, and from what I've seen Turkey is as well.
Yeah I really don't buy this "actually young muslims are leaving islam now guysss" it's based on very dubious polls from biased companies rather than serious studies from respected universities with a large ammount of interviews and clear data.
Look at the news, sharia law is expanding, the more religious parties are flooded with youngsters, rebel islamist groups like the Taliban and Hamas have absolute support from the younger generation, those groups are not aging, they are getting bigger and younger, you can claim those groups are anti imperialism but outside of the muslim world rebels go communist or fascist, muslim countries rebels go religious
Even the countries that "rejected" islamism like Turkey and Nigeria actually elected openly religious politicians that are replacing cold war era secular laws for Quran based laws, that NEVER happens in any christian country, not even the most conservative westerners will openly say that a law is religious.
You can track almost every shift to Western colonial powers being shitheads and extremists offering a modicum of dignity to dispossessed youth. It's annoying how much we've lost as a global culture because of this shit, literally hundreds of millions persecuted by the despots installed after [democratically-elected leader] was assassinated or exiled.
>Islam historically was a lot more chill
Ahahahaha
>A letter written by a literal pirate state demanding protection money
>Also their also-Muslim neighbors were the first country to recognize the US's sovereignty
The idea of an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnificent, and all powerful diety getting upset over a picture is quite frankly...silly
Why are anglo atheist trannies obsessed with gay sex so much that they obsessively shill gay bear sex game on Cinemaphile
>profile pic
Hope posting your shitty, off-topic twitter screenshot was worth it.
Because that's literally all they have going for their personality. The Abrahamic religions fricking suck and are used as a copium mechanism for people born into shithole situtations. lol it's ok you're poor and miserable god will reward you in the afterlife, now get back to work slave
Why is this board on getting obsessed with Muslims all the sudden?
It’s just this and the one about that sexy Muslim Glitch Techs character.
I for one find Islamic history incredibly interesting. The Spanish moors, the rise and fall of the Ottomans, Attaturks rise and the rise of a more secular Turkey, the rise of Nasser and Arab nationalism, the Cold War between Iran and Saudi Arabia, the Cold War between India and Pakistan and the absolute sheer insanity that is the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan (who was allied with anti communist US) funding a communist Indian terrorist group to frick with India and its infrastructure projects, and Pakistan funding the taliban and Al-Queda. Why? Because they are both radical Muslims? No. Because a stable and functioning Afghanistan is a threat to the very existence of Pakistan
How so?
>It’s just this and the one about that sexy Muslim Glitch Techs character.
Don't forget Kamala, she's been a force there for a while
/misc/ tourist trying to shit up the board since they are getting btfo in /k/
Is that Johnny Ryan?
DO NOT OPEN OR YOU WILL DIE IMMINENTLY
All religion is cringe
Catholics will still lose their shit if you say something bad about Mary. Not usually up to the level of physical violence, but still.
I personally don't care. The Vatican was stupid for getting their jimmies rustled over that South Park episode that had the Virgin Mary spewing period blood on people's faces.
>Dude why don't you just keep quiet when we call your religion a cabal of pedophiles that worship a spider?!
They weren't even mocking the Virgin Mary or Catholics. They were mocking Alcoholics who make the "alcoholism is a disease" argument which is a different can of worms altogether.
>Not usually up to the level of physical violence
Tell me the last time a catholic shot a room full of cartoonists with a machine gun for drawing a cartoon of Jesus or cut a teachers head off in the school carpark for telling kids that's not a valid repsonse. I'll wait.
>"Please refrain from doing this thing, which you do not actually have to do and would be completely reasonable for you not to do, or we will go apeshit."
>Does thing
>"Shots fired today at..."
It's not so much that Muslims are sensitive as the French are quite insecure in their role as a quasi-post-colonial state. They have to shore up their sense of identity through occasional gross bigotry and are surprised when the people who say, "If you humiliate us we will kill you," kill them after they've been humiliated.
https://harpers.org/archive/2021/10/put-on-the-diamonds-notes-on-humiliation-vivian-gornick/
Dude, shut the frick up. I don't give a shit about how edgy someone is being when they get shot for a fricking drawing. Braindead take.
It's not a drawing. It's a pictorial letter of intent that the media establishment is going to be culpable in the state running roughshod over your community. Actual satire doesn't punch down, and maybe countries with a history of brutality should refrain from doubling down on symbols of their brutality (in this case, hiding behind "free speech" as a shield in the disfigurement of what is a sacred concept to these people).
Haitian Revolution.
Okay, so the killings were justified then? the cartoonists were asking for it? You have a point, but you lose me when you start blaming the people who drew a picture and wrote some words more than the than the people who shot and killed 12 people. Disgusting, frankly.
>Okay, so the killings were justified then? the cartoonists were asking for it?
It's more complex than that. No one really deserves to get murdered. I'm anti-death penalty, I generally support strict restrictions on gun ownership, etc. My contention is that these people - who were not speaking truth to power, but were in fact THE power, speaking derision to an objectively downtrodden group - were told, "Don't do this shit you're antagonizing a cornered beast," and they did it anyway. The most obvious outcome came to pass, and I'm supposed to just throw away my critical faculties and take the side of the people who were, up to that point, the abusive bullies in the situation. Yeah, I find that difficult. I would rather put my energy towards keeping this shit from happening again, which on the one hand means rooting out extremists and integrating marginalized groups, but on the other means getting the instigators to chill on the instigating.
>take the side of the people who were, up to that point, the abusive bullies in the situation
In the situation of them vs. batshit fundamentalist murderers, yes.
Well, that's dumb.
OR
But, enough about the French...
Whatever helps you sleep at night, babe.
It's not dumb. If you can't empathize more with the people who were killed than the people who killed them your moral compass is fricked. I actually agree with the rest of what you said.
>I would rather put my energy towards keeping this shit from happening again, which on the one hand means rooting out extremists and integrating marginalized groups, but on the other means getting the instigators to chill on the instigating.
This reads like a delusional fedpost
Cornered beasts should be tamed or put down
Or you could just walk away like a civilized person. You do not, in fact, HAVE to engage the people itching for violence, if your intent is peace and your sense-of-self is secure. If, however, you're presence is mostly for dick-swinging purposes...
When they are in your yard and threatening the people in your house, walking away isn't something you can do. If the Muslims were actually happy in their crapsack North Africa/Middle East Countries and stayed there, that'd be fine. But when they come to Europe but don't attempt to be European the problem has to dealt with
I mean you will never do anything about it so it's pointless to discuss. Your politicians hate you and you do not own guns.
Then quit inviting them in, France is now 5% Muslim yet insists on this State atheism shit that has government make laws against public religion and leads this social ostracizing that lets native French go to beaches naked but will kick a Muslim woman out for wearing a burkini
Its no wonder Muslims can be radicalized to cut heads off and do truck murders.
>don't defend your values, let this invasive force slowly take over, otherwise they will murder you
The barbaric response of muslim justifies a far greater degree of oppression.
Well then enjoy your yearly terrorism attacks then. The USA with soft secularism handles society far better and fairer for all parties.
The US is not the best reference point when they proportionally have only a fifth the muslim population size.
>Then quit inviting them in,
They kind of brought that on themselves when they bombed their countries to hell. Libya and Tunisia were doing okay before they killed Gaddafi and bailed soon after.
Maybe people with a history of brutality should refrain from acting like the victim when people draw funny picture of the pedo warlord conman.
>Actually it's the people being murdered in cold blood that are the perpetrators of bigotry.
How many centrist people would mourn a white guy that taped themselves going into a ghetto calling all the blacks Black folk and getting shot over it?
Some might defend freedom of speech or say he didn't deserve to die but most will say the bigot had it coming.
I would.
Is everybody in this thread stupid?
Christian privilege, Christian guilty, christianity at least catholicism and protestantism and orthodox are all white versions of the religion
You can just say the N-word, you can't just Burn the Quran, is that simple, lefties were shouting "muslim lives matter" remember? They are considered opressed in the same level as blacks.
Muslims are in fact quite tolerant, you need to go to the top of a car and burn hundreds of books to cause the same reaction you would get from saying the N-word, muslims are pacient.
>Muslims are pacient
>How?
>You can yell the N-word around them
it weird to me from seeing gore videos and how these barbaric people treat others and their own to think that Muslim could be holy. Allah doesn't tell them to commit acts of violence in his name. I'm sure he could drop mountain on the offenders if he was really offended.
I could be wrong but I think Muhammad had kind of a Buddha thing going on. He didn't want to be worshiped as a god like Jesus because that would take glory away from Allah so he made it illegal to depict him. Can't worship him if you don't know what he looks like. Why Muslims react so violently to people of other religions breaking their rule is a different story.
>Can't worship him if you don't know what he looks like.
Never stopped anyone before. I think people are more likely to worship something that doesn't have definitive characteristics like those old Greek God statues.
Because Muslims, unlike many of us, have the admirable trait of taking their religion dead seriously.
Zealotry is never an admirable trait and will always frick you up no matter what you believe in/are part of.
Abrahamic belief-grifts are cancerous and I dislike them
Because they are not neutered.
does this have ANYTHING to do with Cinemaphile other than cartoonists being vaguely mentioned every 30 posts
The cartoon in OP caused a Muslim extremist shooting at the magazine office and since there's no pictures or old paintings basically all of Muhammad's depictions are Cinemaphile.
Mostly a /misc/ bait thread but there are Cinemaphile angles to talk about if anyone were inclined.
are you moronic or young or what
Freedom of speech should not be restricted because of religious belief, especially in a supposedly secular country. That is as far as any conversation should go. Religion is a personal choice, and nothing about one person following a religion should affect a person who doesn't.
Burn bibles, burn qurans, burn torahs, burn the bhagavad gita, burn mein kamph, and draw jesus, muhammad, moses, ganesh, and hitler in gay orgies.
True religious belief is not a choice, either you are convinced it is the true way or you aren't. It's not something you can just ignore or will away.
It is a personal belief. Emphasis on personal.
Yeah but my emphasis was on "choice" it's not a "choice" because it's not a willful cognitive position, it's a feeling that you either jive with or don't.
Maybe Christians are just cucks who can't defend their "God"
Maybe their god isn't pathetic enough that he needs to rely on mortals to defend him.
i used to care not about the hats. the skirts were annoying.
now it all troubles me.
good job.
They're dumb. Arabs are a race of barbarian invaders.