Because he has been heralded as a white supremacist and his work deemed unpalatable to the current social/political atmosphere without heavy remodification into an acceptable politically correct product
Because he has been heralded as a white supremacist and his work deemed unpalatable to the current social/political atmosphere without heavy remodification into an acceptable politically correct product
Dagon is a campy classic that portrays Lovecraft's Innsmouth town very well imho. Color Out of Space is not great but I liked it. Beggars can't be choosy with Lovecraftian adaptations, there really are only a handful of decent to good ones out there, so I thought it fair to include it.
Indescribable entities beyond human sense and comprehension don’t lend themselves well to literal pictures on screen
The best thematic interpretations will just have hints or flashes of weirdness (like The Mist) otherwise you’ll end up with generic eyes-and-tentacles aesthetic like Warcraft’s utterly unthreatening Old Gods
Not always easy /cheap to adapt but there's no reason why Rats in the Walls for instance couldn't be successfully made into a movie. That said, movies such as Re-Animator and Dagon are enjoyable
The Resurrected and Stuart Gordon (rip) stuff were ok.
It'd be hard to portray the protagonist going crazy and blacking out only to realize he ate his friend. And there's no 'monster' in that story, it's all psychological which doesn't lend itself to a good visual adaptation. The closest movies can get to Rats in the Walls is something like Graveyard Shift by Stephen King where there's an actual giant rat/bat. A lot of Stephen King stuff are unofficial homages to Lovecraft stories anyway, so you can probably add movies like Pet Sematary as Lovecraft adaptations.
A better story to adapt would probably be The Lurking Fear, which is essentially The Descent + The Hills Have Eyes/TCM.
>It'd be hard to portray the protagonist going crazy and blacking out only to realize he ate his friend.
It's perfectly doable and impactful: this type of Oedipal trope (character who finds out about his crimes) has been successfully done Angel Heart and Kill List for instance >And there's no 'monster' in that story,
Not needed, Lovecraft wasn't just monsters. In this case, the devolution aspect, the primitive element being rediscovered would be a great twist. >Visual
It would be amazing: castles, dungeons, underground/ritualistic spaces make for great scenes. Examples: House of Usher, Tomb of Ligeia, Dr.Hichwiener, Kill Baby Kill, Crimson Peak etc
why dont you try making a movie with incomprehensible eldritch horrors that make you go insane if you see them and are giga powerful but get dabbed on by a moron with a boat and see how smart it is?
Also: there aren't many HPL adaptations but plenty of Lovecraftian movies (expanding on his ideas was something he encouraged so his influence is ongoing. 3 or 4 eps in the latest Love Death and Robots are Lovecraftian, and these movies (some recent) all have Lovecraftian elements:
The Beach House
Underwater
The Void
Mothman Prophecies
The Thing
In the Earth
The Endless
In the Mouth of Madness
etc
>The Endless
These guys came closer than other filmmakers with Resolution, The Endless, and Spring.
Not sure what they were going for with Synchronic though and now they're on the Marvel train so they're probably not going to tackle this stuff anymore unless it's a watered down blockbuster version.
The Void and CooS have some really cool special effects and body horror, but the dialogue and acting are so poor that it's pretty much impossible to immerse yourself in the film. I'm sure it's the same for most of these.
Because the entire point of L's stuff is being indescribable and unfathomable. It's incompatible with Hollywoods style of not leaving anything unshowns and unexplained,
It always boils down to muh tentacles
Doesn't translate well to the screen since a lot of the supernatural elements are unseen and only described by characters (eg. the invisible monster in Dunwich Horror)
The source material and the concepts are far more esoteric and abstract than most horror. How do you portray the unspeakable and the indescribable on a movie screen?
Another issue is it seems there has yet to be a filmmaker who has embraced both Lovecraft's atmosphere AND creature mythology.
You have stuff like True Detective S1, Kill List, some David Lynch stuff, etc. that has a feeling of something malevolent and otherworldly lurking within every frame - but nobody behind those projects has any actual interest in cosmic horror. Or at least they haven't talked about it. But they STILL captured that atmosphere.
Then you have people who ONLY care about the creatures and ignore the degradation of the human race and the scope of existential dread within an uncaring, unknowable universe. Del Toro, Carpenter, all Stuard Gordon's movies, etc.
Ideally, someone like Del Toro would do the creature design for a more capable director who understands the themes and atmosphere of Lovecraft's work but that will never happen.
I've been working my way through Lovecraft's stories recently, and it's been very distracting noticing just how real the "dude it was so scary I can't even describe it" meme is.
Every single story has him do that.
You should read the Dream Cycles. >Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath
Through the Gates of the Silver Key
Probably his best work and better than ATMOM and his other most talked about stories. They focus more on lore and bizarre concepts than they do unknowable madness. Even Azazhoth is comprehended and explained in Key, not just "dude i went crazy"
>OH MY GOD IS THAT AN ITAL*AN? AAAHHHH LOOK AT HIS SWARTHY COMPLEXION OH GOD I AM GOING INSANE HE IS USING HIS HANDS TO TALK LIKE A NEVER BEFORE SEEN MONSTER FROM THE DEEP ABYSS OF SPACE OH MY GOD HE JUST INVOKED THE ELDER GODS WITH WORDS BARELY HUMAN AND MY FEEBLE HAND ALMOST DOES NOT DARE TO WRITE DOWN THIS UNHOLIEST OF INCANTATIONS (Buongiorno mi amici) >AHHH HELP ME Black personMAN HE JUST OPENED UP A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES PIZZA I AM GOING INSANE
'Unknowable, indescribable horror' doesn't translate well to film. Either you don't show it which will piss off the audience because you blueballed them, or you show it and it's inevitably a let down.
>constant "Umm, did you know Lovecraft was racist???" posts >nobody EVER mentions his redemption arc >how he overcame the ideals forced on him by his batshit insane family, and stopped being racist (as much) >even married a israeli girl, and stated that he regretted living in such fear and hate for so long
But no, Black personman gets the spotlight even though he didn't name the cat
>this is scary trust me you wouldn't understand words can't describe it
Turns out this type of sóy horror falls apart when you have to show.the monster and it's only a giant squid
Color Out of Space (the Cage one) was pretty decent for the final third of the movie. It's a slog up to there, though.
It's quite possibly the worst story you could ever try to adapt to a visual medium though, for obvious reasons.
Just watched the Stuart Gordon episode of Masters of Horror, where he adapted Dreams in the Witch-House. Honestly pretty good! It features the same lead actor from Dagon. Gordon really knew how to utilise a small ass budget, it's an effective adaptation and definitely worth watching. pic unrelated
there's maybe 15-20 movies that capture the general setting, sleepy coastal town, weird people, foggy nights, human hybrid monsters. if you're a horror fan (say watch 100-200 b horror movies a year) you will eventually come up on most of the inspired works.
I liked the part in Dagon where the MC got a swirlie from an abyssal horror. Also, imagine getting cucked by cthulhu lol what a homosexual. Incredibly soulful movie.
Because he has been heralded as a white supremacist and his work deemed unpalatable to the current social/political atmosphere without heavy remodification into an acceptable politically correct product
cause lovecraft is shit no cap frfr
word
It do be like that sometimes
This, Lovecraft is lazy horror for 16 years old goths
His vocabulary is far too advanced for most modern 16 year olds
what does that mean?
>cause lovecraft *BE shit no cap frfr
shit take, sorry
>the duality of a man
w-what do you mean?
Frick. You.
Did you read his work?
yeah its shite lmao
>valid point
>zoomer talk
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>shitpost
Never change Cinemaphile
it was 20
dumb frick
It's true but you should articulate more next time
uh what you mean
The Void
Mouth of Madness
Event Horizon
Night of the Living Dead
>Mouth of Madness
Mouth of Madness is a great movie. Suck a dick.
It's fine but the ending with the creature "reveal" goes against everything that makes Lovecraft's work impactful.
Good list, also:
The Empty Man
The Endless
The Void is good
Color Out of Space
Absentia
Sunshine
Come True
the octopus documentary
Color Out of Space with Nic Cage was good, also Dagon
Both awful
Dagon was great. You're awful, anon.
Dagon is a campy classic that portrays Lovecraft's Innsmouth town very well imho. Color Out of Space is not great but I liked it. Beggars can't be choosy with Lovecraftian adaptations, there really are only a handful of decent to good ones out there, so I thought it fair to include it.
Indescribable entities beyond human sense and comprehension don’t lend themselves well to literal pictures on screen
The best thematic interpretations will just have hints or flashes of weirdness (like The Mist) otherwise you’ll end up with generic eyes-and-tentacles aesthetic like Warcraft’s utterly unthreatening Old Gods
Not always easy /cheap to adapt but there's no reason why Rats in the Walls for instance couldn't be successfully made into a movie. That said, movies such as Re-Animator and Dagon are enjoyable
The Resurrected and Stuart Gordon (rip) stuff were ok.
It'd be hard to portray the protagonist going crazy and blacking out only to realize he ate his friend. And there's no 'monster' in that story, it's all psychological which doesn't lend itself to a good visual adaptation. The closest movies can get to Rats in the Walls is something like Graveyard Shift by Stephen King where there's an actual giant rat/bat. A lot of Stephen King stuff are unofficial homages to Lovecraft stories anyway, so you can probably add movies like Pet Sematary as Lovecraft adaptations.
A better story to adapt would probably be The Lurking Fear, which is essentially The Descent + The Hills Have Eyes/TCM.
>It'd be hard to portray the protagonist going crazy and blacking out only to realize he ate his friend.
It's perfectly doable and impactful: this type of Oedipal trope (character who finds out about his crimes) has been successfully done Angel Heart and Kill List for instance
>And there's no 'monster' in that story,
Not needed, Lovecraft wasn't just monsters. In this case, the devolution aspect, the primitive element being rediscovered would be a great twist.
>Visual
It would be amazing: castles, dungeons, underground/ritualistic spaces make for great scenes. Examples: House of Usher, Tomb of Ligeia, Dr.Hichwiener, Kill Baby Kill, Crimson Peak etc
Not every book can be/needs to be made into a movie. Lovecraft is about a certain atmosphere and that's almost untranslatable into movie form.
Arby n' the Chief technically.
Frick, that's funny to think about.
>dood its so scary you cant even comprehend it
>dood just seeing it will make you go insane
>dood just put dood in front of it dood it makes it sound so stupid and silly.
why dont you try making a movie with incomprehensible eldritch horrors that make you go insane if you see them and are giga powerful but get dabbed on by a moron with a boat and see how smart it is?
It's not pretending bigot, it identifies as crab fluid.
Lovecraft adaptations <<< Lovecraft inspired
Because nobody has successfully constructed a lovecraft yet
black mountain side wasn't good but I really enjoyed it, we need more movies set in the arctic
Also: there aren't many HPL adaptations but plenty of Lovecraftian movies (expanding on his ideas was something he encouraged so his influence is ongoing. 3 or 4 eps in the latest Love Death and Robots are Lovecraftian, and these movies (some recent) all have Lovecraftian elements:
The Beach House
Underwater
The Void
Mothman Prophecies
The Thing
In the Earth
The Endless
In the Mouth of Madness
etc
>The Endless
These guys came closer than other filmmakers with Resolution, The Endless, and Spring.
Not sure what they were going for with Synchronic though and now they're on the Marvel train so they're probably not going to tackle this stuff anymore unless it's a watered down blockbuster version.
because you never watched them
The Void and CooS have some really cool special effects and body horror, but the dialogue and acting are so poor that it's pretty much impossible to immerse yourself in the film. I'm sure it's the same for most of these.
Had a dream with that feeling, like a psychology office with a staircase, problem is you don't really want to remember it afterwards.
Monsters are stupid and it only seriously entertains slow children,
Blair Witch Project is the best Lovecraft film ever made and it will never be topped because people will only think BWP.
because there's no good lovecraft book
Tell us about the ones you read, anon
at the mountains of madness is a uniquely great read even as someone who doesn't enjoy lovecraft at all
Because the entire point of L's stuff is being indescribable and unfathomable. It's incompatible with Hollywoods style of not leaving anything unshowns and unexplained,
It always boils down to muh tentacles
Doesn't translate well to the screen since a lot of the supernatural elements are unseen and only described by characters (eg. the invisible monster in Dunwich Horror)
Clark Ashton Smith was better
Check out Cool Air
The source material and the concepts are far more esoteric and abstract than most horror. How do you portray the unspeakable and the indescribable on a movie screen?
Another issue is it seems there has yet to be a filmmaker who has embraced both Lovecraft's atmosphere AND creature mythology.
You have stuff like True Detective S1, Kill List, some David Lynch stuff, etc. that has a feeling of something malevolent and otherworldly lurking within every frame - but nobody behind those projects has any actual interest in cosmic horror. Or at least they haven't talked about it. But they STILL captured that atmosphere.
Then you have people who ONLY care about the creatures and ignore the degradation of the human race and the scope of existential dread within an uncaring, unknowable universe. Del Toro, Carpenter, all Stuard Gordon's movies, etc.
Ideally, someone like Del Toro would do the creature design for a more capable director who understands the themes and atmosphere of Lovecraft's work but that will never happen.
I've been working my way through Lovecraft's stories recently, and it's been very distracting noticing just how real the "dude it was so scary I can't even describe it" meme is.
Every single story has him do that.
You should read the Dream Cycles.
>Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath
Through the Gates of the Silver Key
Probably his best work and better than ATMOM and his other most talked about stories. They focus more on lore and bizarre concepts than they do unknowable madness. Even Azazhoth is comprehended and explained in Key, not just "dude i went crazy"
>OH MY GOD IS THAT AN ITAL*AN? AAAHHHH LOOK AT HIS SWARTHY COMPLEXION OH GOD I AM GOING INSANE HE IS USING HIS HANDS TO TALK LIKE A NEVER BEFORE SEEN MONSTER FROM THE DEEP ABYSS OF SPACE OH MY GOD HE JUST INVOKED THE ELDER GODS WITH WORDS BARELY HUMAN AND MY FEEBLE HAND ALMOST DOES NOT DARE TO WRITE DOWN THIS UNHOLIEST OF INCANTATIONS (Buongiorno mi amici)
>AHHH HELP ME Black personMAN HE JUST OPENED UP A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES PIZZA I AM GOING INSANE
What's the best post 2010 lovecraftian movie? I'll take 90s too. Don't really like 2000 - 2009 movies
I would put an 80s one on backlog. Nothing before that though. Any recommendations?
Kill List
Because anime does it better.
'Unknowable, indescribable horror' doesn't translate well to film. Either you don't show it which will piss off the audience because you blueballed them, or you show it and it's inevitably a let down.
How do you feel about Noroi
Never seen it but I don't usually like jap horror.
because Hollywood is run by dog lovers.
cause there aint no good lovecraftian writers
See
because it would be Anti-Semitic.
how do you visualize something thats not even supposed to be describable?
>constant "Umm, did you know Lovecraft was racist???" posts
>nobody EVER mentions his redemption arc
>how he overcame the ideals forced on him by his batshit insane family, and stopped being racist (as much)
>even married a israeli girl, and stated that he regretted living in such fear and hate for so long
But no, Black personman gets the spotlight even though he didn't name the cat
Never let the truth get in the way of funposting.
Japanese horror gets it the closest imo when they don't try too hard
>WAAAHH SCARYY OCTOPUSS
>WAAA SO SCARY I CANT DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE IM A HACK
>AAAH IM GOING CRAZY HELP ME Black personMAN *meow*
See
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Haunted Palace is an adaptation of the Case of Charles Dexter Ward despite being billed otherwise. It's also pretty good.
The Resurrected is a better adaptation of the same novel.
didn't know about that one, going to check it out, I am mainly just a sucker for vincent price so I may still prefer the older one
I liked We Are Still Here, even if it did get a little goofy in the third act
Mandy is okay.
The first Hellboy movie still has the biggest scope for any movie with Lovecraftian anesthetics, despite being very cartoonized.
>anesthetics
>this is scary trust me you wouldn't understand words can't describe it
Turns out this type of sóy horror falls apart when you have to show.the monster and it's only a giant squid
Color Out of Space (the Cage one) was pretty decent for the final third of the movie. It's a slog up to there, though.
It's quite possibly the worst story you could ever try to adapt to a visual medium though, for obvious reasons.
Just watched the Stuart Gordon episode of Masters of Horror, where he adapted Dreams in the Witch-House. Honestly pretty good! It features the same lead actor from Dagon. Gordon really knew how to utilise a small ass budget, it's an effective adaptation and definitely worth watching. pic unrelated
The one with the gay dude is a pleb filter
the WHAT?
lovecraft only wrote shitty stories.
Filthy mongrels
there's maybe 15-20 movies that capture the general setting, sleepy coastal town, weird people, foggy nights, human hybrid monsters. if you're a horror fan (say watch 100-200 b horror movies a year) you will eventually come up on most of the inspired works.
Second
I liked the part in Dagon where the MC got a swirlie from an abyssal horror. Also, imagine getting cucked by cthulhu lol what a homosexual. Incredibly soulful movie.