Why are they treated as an extinction-level threat? I mean I know they're dangerous to individuals, especially the way small groups of people keep getting trapped unarmed in close quarters with them, but humans managed to drive more formidable animals to extinction when the peak of our technology was "pointy rock."
The Military wanted to weaponize them.
>more formidable animals
no
saber tooth tiger, woolie mammoth, nedanderthal, direwolves, giant sloth, cave bear etc
none of these animals are remotely as dangerous as a xenomorph
all of them are stronger, more numerous and reproduce more rapidly
>stronger and reproduce more rapidly
no, even a drone manages to break down steel doors in the second movie and they reach mature form in a few hours
entire colonies are lost within days of infestation
also: hard skin, acid blood, hostile nature, high int etc
never shit like a giant sloth or a big wolf would stand a chance against something like that
Well wolves would just run away and breed... without hosts. Wolves would kill off any hosts that the alien could use as well. They do that shut to hold their areas. They will wipe out everything to starve other predators out.
So wolf wins.
you have no idea how strong a dog/wolf bite is nevermind a direwolf. all the others easily outweigh the xeno by double if not more (ex sloth 8000 lbs vs xeno 600 lb). a single hit from a bear would snap a xeno in half
It would also kill or at least maim the bear from the acid, leaving it open to the dead alien's buddies to facefrick it with a hugger and create a xenobear.
bears have hides and bones thick enough to resist (small to medium calibre) gunfire and you think a little bit of acid is going to do any real damage to it? a bit of clothing/bodyarmor is enough to slow/stop the acid in the films.
>alien's buddies to facefrick it with a hugger and create a xenobear.
so there will magically be more of them even though they reproduce slower and they will make a silicon xenobear out of a non-silicon bear breaking law of conservation of energy and also apparently using biological cold fusion and also they have magic acid to boot, starting to sound worse than coldsteel the edgehog to me.
initial point was about animals that are more formidable not whether about 1v1 xeno vs animal. though you're still wrong anyway
They don't have to be able to 1v1 a xeno. They have to be able to 1v1 the queen.
they dont have to 1v1 anything the point is about which will go extinct first and really this could be argued solely from how inefficent their reproduction is.
Yeah no. The eggs found in the first film were implied to have been there for hundreds if not thousands of years. You argue their reproduction is inefficient, but all it takes is One.
no, what it takes, is a species with enough hubris and bad intent that they try to weaponize the aliens like humanity did. we could have avoided the aliens and been fine. all the conflict comes from scenarios humans created trying to use aliens as a weapon. on they're own the aliens aren't going to travel between planets and they're not capable of reproduction without killing something so its as easy as staying away from them. but humans can't leave well enough alone and we keep brining alien eggs into labs and setting up scenarios where humans get infected for testing and genetic experiments and everything else.
that's like saying the bacteria we dig up in antarctica is more formidable to bears because it stayed alive for a long time. xeno could be an immortal killing machine but if rate of reproduction < competition it will go extinct or at best maintain a role as a parasite (not unlike the parasitoid wasps it was exactly designed after)
>that's like saying the bacteria we dig up in antarctica is more formidable to bears because it stayed alive for a long time
Uh yeah if it can kill the bear and keeps surviving. How stupid are you?
do you think bacteria can't kill bears? if antarctic bacteria kills 1 in 1 million humans and bears kill 200 in 1 million humans which is more formidable?
I think part of the problem is that any one of these species can be gestated by an alien embryo to take on its best traits and preserve the xenomorph intelligence and cunning of the origin species.
On top of that all their attacks are melee bleed-types. Animals very rarely go for one hit kills except for ambush predators, which tend to lock in and drag. A xenomorph isn't going to lose a grapple match with its tail anon.
Anon you are moronic as frick, both for irl knowledge and in universe knowledge.
>humans managed to drive more formidable animals to extinction
Tell that to rabbits in australia lol
how the frick is Oz so full of deadly creatures, especially snakes, and its the fricking bunnies that survive so well they threaten the ecosystem?
>he doesn't know
How are they not an extinction level threat?
>one human produces one alien and the process kills the host
Maybe the worst reproduction imaginable, they'd get wiped out fast
They can host in anything as small as a dog and theoretically as big as a blue whale. If a Queen set up in subterranean New York City and began by grabbing up stray dogs & hobos in the abandoned tunnels & subways, it could swell into a huge hive in days. Then you have xenos boarding cargoships spreading eggs around the planet. New queens will rise up once they get a certain distance away from their mother, leading to more hives growing around the planet.
I'd watch this kino (not far from the original novels iirc, been forever since I read them).
what 3rd world shithole are you from that you think there are stray dogs running around new york city?
The coyotes probably eat them all.
There are stray dogs in every city, why would there not be some in New York City? I'm sure there are hobos with dogs. The real question is would there be a sewer gator a facehugger could impregnate and give us a gator alien. Or if we could get a scene of a horde of huggers breaking into the zoo impregnating a bunch of exotics.
>There are stray dogs in every city
eh, when I was little maybe, but they went nuclear on those
How the frick would a face hugger "theoretically" impregnate a fricking bluewhale?
The facehugger would just need to crawl into its mouth and lay the egg.
>They can host in anything as small as a dog and theoretically as big as a blue whale. If a Queen set up in subterranean New York City and began by grabbing up stray dogs & hobos in the abandoned tunnels & subways, it could swell into a huge hive in days. Then you have xenos boarding cargoships spreading eggs around the planet. New queens will rise up once they get a certain distance away from their mother, leading to more hives growing around the planet.
This is straight up the plot mechanism behind the chimera ant arc in hunter x hunter.
Yes Togashi is a hack. This has been documented since Chapter Black in YYH.
Any area that isn't a ship or a spacestation would have air power, armor, artillery, heavy weapons, etc. Yes they are dangerous but capable of wiping out the human race? No
>killed easily by standard small arms
>relatively smart but still sub-human intelligence
>entire colony is unable to completely wipe out one unprepared marine squad in optimal environmental conditions for the ayys
>marine squad could have just nerve gassed or nuked them without even coming in contact
>queen defeated by loading equipment
They were before James Cameron ruined it
You can drop bombs on them.
They can't breed without hosts
They can't use guns
They really aren't very scary. Seriously. Give me my AR 15 and 100 Meters distance I could easily wipe out a thousand and they wouldn't get close.
Close quarters? I'd just create distance.
Youd shit your diaper you dumb homosexual ar 15 wont do shit theyd pounce on your homosexual ass and frick your face out the back of your head instantly
No.
I'd shoot them. At range. With my gun.
They spit acid and move faster than you
My bullets move faster. 600 meters out with my AR long is not a hard shot for me.
Not baiting, I'd shred those frickers. They can splatter their acid football fields away.
Really they as a threat, kind of suck.
This is making a handful of big assumptions
1. You are prepared for an attack and know their location
2. They approach from one angle only
3. They attack during daylight hours with a long, clear line of sight without any adverse weather affecting your visibility
4. They attack in a number that is manageable for the time it takes to acquire each of them and critically wound each
5. You don't have shaky hands or a panic attack during this ordeal
So their whole attack plan
Is based on me
Not knowing giant acid spitting insectoids aren't in the area.
That's moronic. You should feel bad.
>Give me my AR 15 and 100 Meters distance
>600 meters out with my AR
pick one. you're now backtracking the distance to try making your moron scenario work.
Well stop changing the scenario then.
>They really aren't very scary. Seriously. Give me my AR 15 and 100 Meters distance I could easily wipe out a thousand and they wouldn't get close.
>Close quarters? I'd just create distance.
this was your original scenario, moron. I haven't changed a thing.
<-- me responding to your original moron scenario - a response you conveniently ignored.
>My bullets move faster. 600 meters out with my AR long is not a hard shot for me.
this is YOU changing the scenario - nobody else chose the distance. nice job you absolute fricking moron. you would get destroyed. simple as.
So...
You think taking out 1000 at 100 meters with a drum
And being able to shoot at 600 meters are both things
I can not do
Are you esl or autistic
I can spray at 100 meters AND Shoot long at 600
Understand?
>You think taking out 1000 at 100 meters with a drum
the largest capacity drum I've seen is 100 rounds. again, assuming you hit every bullet and each bullet kills one alien, AND assuming you can reload and fire again to do the same thing, that leaves 800 aliens that have swarmed you by that point. are you even sentient? are you a sentient being, anon?
You are just being autistic now rather than losing an argument.
Aren't you? I am amused
Have a neat frog video for appreciation.
I have modified drums that carry 240. I'd bumpshoot it and empty it out fast, the ones in the front would drop and slow down the ones behind, repeat.
Zombie fighting tactics oddly enough. You create obstacles for them using their dead. The acid would frick up their footing as it messed up the ground and slow them further.
And of course I'd be retreating backwards as I fire to create more distance.
Yes, there are actual tactics for this stuff trained. I can dig it up if you want.
Here's one of the zombie plans by the US military
Conop 8888
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONOP_8888#:~:text=CONPLAN%208888%20also%20known%20as,training%20students%20in%20military%20planning.
I'm looking for the xenomorph one now.
Should be steel and termite rounds.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/d7379m/the-military-plans-for-dealing-with-aliens-zombies-and-other-unexpected-things
Anyone with the xenomorph plan? I'm looking. Anytime an alien movie comes out that the military thinks could be a problem they create plans. The Transformer contingency plan is pretty funny. Basically "melt them with white phosphorous"
>I have modified drums that carry 240. I'd bumpshoot it and empty it out fast
fast? fastest 100m dash is about 9 seconds. an alien is going to destroy that time. an AR-15 does not fire 240 rounds in less than 10 seconds, bumpfiring considered.
>And of course I'd be retreating backwards as I fire to create more distance.
lmao... even if you ran at a full sprint you'd be horribly outpaced. this is ignoring how badly it's going to affect your accuracy.
>You create obstacles for them using their dead. The acid would frick up their footing as it messed up the ground and slow them further.
the acid isn't going to do shit to the ground the way you're thinking, and they will have no problem swarming right over their dead. they aren't zombies and they don't move like human beings. if even ONE gets within melee range you are fricked and you think you're going to stave off hundreds in the span of less than 10 seconds solo with a rifle. holy shit what an absolute moron.
Hey fellow gun enthusiast. How about we meet up on Discord and you tell me how to do those modifications for modified drum magazines carrying 240 rounds.
lmao
Haha frick that.
This other guy is going full hypothetical devils advocate trying to win an argument. At first I was amused. Now I think he is serious and can't let it go. They aren't meant for ar rounds, but you just put a spacer in and change the spring and there you go. It's not rocket surgery.
>going full hypothetical devils advocate
it's called being realistic.
You shoot shit out your ass into your overflowing sagging diaper
>shoot 30
>time to reload
>shoot 30 more
>time to reload
Being generous and assuming you kill one per bullet and have time to reload and fire a second time, that still leaves 940 that will 100% close that 100m gap and swarm you. Fricking moron.
Is this bait? Where are you going to drop the bombs dumbass? They could be anywhere underground
> Give me my AR 15
kek
> I'd just create distance
555 - Come - On - Now
You can, but you need to glass a 200 mile radius around the place they were observed in at most the next 3 hours
that would take 8 million average sized nukes.
No. Lol
It would take about 50 mts spread out.
1 Mt detonated at proper height glasses everything in 1 mile radius of explosion. Go up higher and assume it's not reinforced steel concrete it goes to 2 or 4 mile diameter
Czar Bomba for instance detonated at wrong altitude glassed roughly 80 to 100 miles diameter and the fireball almost touched the ground. It was 50 mt
I'm not arguing. Just believe what you want.
Based 10 year old poster
I honestly agree with this guy first two movies worked so well because you were fighting them in what is basically a mechanical labyrinth. You had no idea were it was, it could be above, below, right around the corner, etc. You could easily run from it but if it gets you it gets you
>t.
They have problem in the movies, specially in the first one because of the acid blood which would have destroyed the ship. In any place other than deep space they could have shoot the Black person to death very easily.
Even if we account for the Cameron moronic bullshit the aliens are pretty moronic, they keep going against the turrets and lose like 100 xenos against a single turret. Now imagine drones flying above where the aliens cannot ever reach.
aren't the turrets special edition scenes? at the start of the special edition cameron says he likes this longer version, 40 miles of bad road. but it also has the worse opener with newt and showing the colony.
For starters, they are extremely vulnerable to any projectile based human weaponry, especially since the movies are meant to take place in the age of space rifles
Even the underpowered space marines in Aliens still wreck them apart
They're only true threats against nobodies such as in the first, or hobos that can't even muster a simple gun like the prisoners from the third
Not to mention their reproductive system feels wasteful as frick
In one of the movies a human was able to physically overpower one. 800lb Bears tear up cars and we've managed wiped out their gigantic ancestors
>we've managed wiped out their gigantic ancestors
>we
You didn't do shit and you have no comprehension of evo strategy.
>we've managed wiped out their gigantic ancestors
>we
You didn't do shit and you have no comprehension of evo strategy.
No trilogy with Promethius in it will ever be kino, stop fooling yourself. Pseudo-religious jargon and horrible characters don't make a good movie. He went on to do the same shit with Raised by Wolves.
Whatever end of life existential bullshit Scott is dealing with needs to stop being projected in media
They grow from embryo to adult in 3 hours, dumbass.
they're not and they are a dogshit movie monster and even worse plot device. These things are velociraptors with acid blood and possibly even dumber. They don't do anything, we're always told they're smart but never shown, they scratch and bite people (cool), and have the ability to be sneaky sometimes. Awesome monster definitely can build a dozen good movies out of that. This franchise hasn't been justifiable for thirty years, xenos are washed.
Because they’re weapons. watch the movies.
In the first alien they were extremely durable. In the moronic sequel they were no more durable than a fricking regular ant so I don't know in that case
It would be cool if we got more variation of xenomorphs, they take on characteristics of whatever host they infect but we've only really had human based xenomorphs and the occasional predalien. Imagine having like xenomorphs from lions or elephants fricking people up.
Killer whale and great white xenos would also be cool as frick, reminds me of resident evil zombified animals
I don't want Kenner aliens in a movie, but seeing different skulls underneath the dome would be interesting.
would be better than any of the films following aliens
>Why are they treated as an extinction-level threat?
3 facehuggers in africa with all the humans and animals for them to use and within a year you would have;
at best thousands and and worst tens or hundreds of millions
Icbm or orbital strike if they spread that far. Mop up the rest
>glassing Africa
Based scion of Sanghelios.
3 facehuggers = 3 aliens
Then what?
The facehuggers drop off and die after implanting their one egg, aliens can't make more eggs by themselves
yes nuke the sight if possible
xenomorphs can actually become eggs that generate a facehugger.
>3 facehuggers make 3 aliens
>3 aliens become 3 eggs and make 3 facehuggers which make the same 3 aliens
Wow le global le catastrophe
I don't know if the books are considered canonical but the xenomorphs are really tough. Their endoskeletons can't be penetrated by traditional weaponry so the average gun nut, assuming you even have one, stands no chance against these things. They're strong, fast and reproduce quickly, while simultaneously eliminating their hosts. These are creatures also capable of teraforming to some degree, making land inhospitable for some other species.
Again, I'm unsure if the books are canonical but a drone will become a queen if there is no other queen within a set radius. It's meant for the purpose of establishing a hive.
No weapons expert so if you tell me otherwise I'll believe you, but they're great at making tunnels and growing underground ( they're basically ants ) and I currently think it'd take a lot of firepower to do that in a single area, much less a continent.
>endoskeletons
exoskeletons
Aliens shits this up because they go out of their way to explain the Marines have ungodly 20mm Armor Piercing Exploding Tip Super Machine Guns but then have two random scenes where an alien gets btfo by a regular 12 gauge and a .45
Even the shotgun might be excusable because Hicks had a rare opportunity to shove the gun IN the alien's mouth before firing it and you'd imagine they're not quite so armored on the inside, but Vasquez just plain obliterates one with her pea shooter.
You're completely correct, and that's why I brought up the books, which tend to do a better job. The films really did miss out on the consistency there since Ripley wasn't exactly slinging lead in the original film.
She had to put the .45 up to the xeno's skull and empty the mag and it crippled her afterwards. When another xeno pops out of the ducting and they shoot from further away, the bullet looks like it bounces off
that was gorman's 9mm for the far shots right?
that always stood out to me of how i saw regular weapons vs the military stuff
>but Vasquez just plain obliterates one with her pea shooter.
I think you have to chalk this stuff up to a movie being an entertaining movie. Someone else ITT brought up killing a Queen with construction gear, but that's a little disingenuous.
Your response is a perfect example of my point. Be it politics, stubbornness, apathy, misinformation, or ignorance there will be people with their heads in the sand denying that Xeno's are problem for them
Climate change isn't real.
i'll only agree to join the global cooling, melting, warming, freezing, stay the same temperaturing if greta thunberg personally comes and sits on my face on request as often as I like for as many years as I deem her useful and fit.
also she has to switch to a normal human diet so her backside doesn't smell like a silage pit from her disgusting vegan hobby.
You sound like the worst kind of person. A selfish Black person brained waste of life. I hope you die.
you don't know what kind of future ammo they loaded in those
not to mention those are .45 and 9mm two centuries from now of presumably higher capability
>No weapons expert
Neither am I but bunker busters exist irl. You can look it up
The xenos would have to dig terribly deep to escape a saturation nuclear strike
Even the Cheyenne mountain complex wouldn't survive in a nuclear war
they could go anywhere or everywhere to avoid blasts.
i doubt radiation affects them.
blast radius is a mile or so for most nukes, there are around 30-40,000 nukes on the planet of varying sizes, it isn't much of an area of effect compared to the amount of landmass there is. and if aliens went in caves or even sewers, some would survive even near blast areas.
Did you morons just forget that the Queen can produce more eggs on demand? What am I reading? kek
It really comes down to how easily Earth's people can collectively organize and isolate a threat.
I think our responses to the Coronavirus and climate change demonstrated how inept we are at that task. People would not give a frick until the moment it affects them personally, which is too late.
>climate change
>a threat
Who said anything about queens?
>I think our responses to the Coronavirus and climate change demonstrated how inept we are at that task.
This is terror and war threat level.
We're more than capable of dealing with those, we've made businesses out of both sides of them.
Coronavirus is now a business, we've "solved" it despite the damage it causes to individuals. However we did actually solve smallpox, the black death, measles, mumps, rubella and countless other diseases. HIV and AIDs are in the process of being solved.
Climate change itself is "solved" because it's a side effect of business and itself isn't a threat to our existence, even if it will cause problems for individuals and damage to most economies.
Xenomorphs would not stand a chance.
>comparing coronavirus to a situation warranting a military response
ENTER
one of these vs the world. who wins?
Yeah... this shit would get out of hand pretty fast unless the military was aware of it's presence and assembled at high speed
The trickier part for the Xeno is getting across oceans without being discovered
What would stop the Black folk from rushing the xeno with machetes? Please dont say acid blood because that would take an iq over 80.
They are like an actually dangerous form of zombies kinda.
There was actually a comic about Alien infesting Earth and causing apocalypse, forcing humans to leave Earth. I always thought weird that nobody actually used that idea for live action
Wasn’t this the original plan for Alien 3 until the studio started pinching pennies?
No, the story ideas for Alien 3 were, like, a wooden space station full of monks and there's a power struggle going on while the aliens take over, for some shit.
Then they hired Fincher to make it and he rewrote it, then the studio bent him over with changes and notes and the final edit and it was just a huge frickaroo.
Eric Red's Alien 3 was moron kino. Then again, so was his whole life.
theres a bunch of alien 3 screenplays
lance henriksen and michael bean did a audiobook style thing for the one that was gonna be made before fincher made his shitty one
its basically the plot of alien IV sort of
aliens are on a space station and they have to fight them
its like a mashup of aliens and alien 4
This varies from movie to movie (seems to depend on wether the alien is alone or not) but they're smart enough to understand that things like cutting the power and destroying cameras give them an advantage. I especially like how the Alien missions in the AvP games have stuff like critical computer consoles glow in your vision, like the alien instinctively understands that breaking this shit is a good idea. They're just incredibly good at spotting chinks in the armor and exploiting it for all it's worth.
Aliens tries to have it both ways. It's not entirely clear if they cut the power on purpose or it just happened when they finally decided to climb into the ductwork - but what is clear is they decided to climb into the ductwork because after spending several minutes getting massacred by running head-on into a machine gun nest, they started thinking, "Wait, getting shot is... bad?"
So I don't imagine they're exactly Jeopardy champion material. It's also treated as this incredibly significant and ominous moment when the Queen presses the button to call the elevator back, which is impressive but at the same time is something a sufficiently motivated hamster could figure out.
I'm honestly fine with it never made clear exactly how smart they are, because they're just the kind of creatures that become less interesting the more you explain them. It gives them a bit of an impact when all of a sudden, they do something surprisingly smart that makes you wonder how much goes on in their acid brains.
Jeopardy winners memorize random facts. That isn't the same as being smart - it's stamp collecting.
>after spending several minutes getting massacred by running head-on into a machine gun nest, they started thinking, "Wait, getting shot is... bad?"
The queen has hundreds of drones, it's no big loss. They also probably assumed the enemy would need to reload and would be overrun by drones after the first 10 fell. They'd never run into sentry guns before so they had no experience of an enemy that has no need to reload. They probably stopped because they assumed that there was no end to the ammo, which was just in time for the Marines too. If they had kept pressing they would have broken through, "but they don't know that" as Ripley states.
Exactly, I don't know how people miss that. They are smart but brave. The turrets are no different than what they've already experienced with the marines. They don't know they're facing robots and have no idea how much ammo there is. The turrets could have 10,000 more rounds as far as they know. They made a brave attempt to overwhelm it and after taking too many losses, retreated smartly, then intelligently found a way around. It was a great scene that wasn't an insult to the Xenos since how could they know? They'd never fall for it again unless it's a new hive.
Nono, you see.
Aliens bad, the resident spamming autist said so.
Pretty much all Alien media outside of the first two movies have the Xenomorphs be some sort of alien virus that can evolve far past the regular Xenomorph/Facehugger and infect people coming in contact with it and turning them into some sort of hybrid similar to Prometheus. The alternate book version of Alien 3 has the Sulaco stray off course and get boarded by a competing human faction who take some of the alien material. Newt and Hicks are interrogated and Ripley is out of action. A team from WeYu is sent to try and retrieve them since it's a diplomatic incident. The scientists are studying the material in secret but of course someone gets infected and it starts causing chaos.
So the answer usually ends up being, they will continue to evolve into ever more deadly forms as long as there is fresh genetic material to absorb and the movies never give them this opportunity for longevity. The Xenos in Aliens lasted much longer than Alien and you can see what they built, but they ran out of biological beings and went dormant.
they are smart and they reproduce fast, what else needs to be said?
what's that website again?
https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini
Thank
Say all you want about Prometheus and Alien Covenant. Ridley Scott has been trying to make the Alien cosmic horror again, I hate how they are seen as over glorified ants, there is no Xeno homeworld, there are no red colored aliens, no predators to the xeno, they are meant to be the perfect apex predators, and eggmorphing >>>> alien queen
>Ridley Scott has been trying to make the Alien cosmic horror again
Ah yes, by turning the Space Jockeys into space jesuses and the xenomorphs into creation by Weyland's first android
sure
I liked how all the technology was 500 years more advanced than the stuff in the first two alien films, despite it being a hundred or so years in the past.
demented film, never should have been allowed to be made.
Well my headcannon is that it's a lot like the old navy ships that are still in service but have severely outdated tech
> Ridley Scott has been trying to make the Alien cosmic horror again
cosmic horror != spooky thing in space
The black goo and its creations are literally Eldrich Abominations and the engineers worship these things, how is that not Lovecraftian?
well first off the the point was about the originals where there is no argument for this. I see how you can contrive it halfway into cosmic horror but it lacks the scale or dread etc for cosmic horror. It's simply too half-assed - xenos are just apparently some weird genetic experiment that don't really do anything special and the engineers just seem like either generic aliens or morons. There's no grandiosity to either and it's not even clear to me that the future earth is threatened by the remnant engineers technologically
Because things that are moronicly inept aren't a cosmic horror
I agree that Prometheus turning Alien into cosmic horror is a step in the right direction but he should fire his scriptwriter for reducing the characters into bumbling morons in a slasher flick.
I just wish Alien Covenant was an actual Prometheus sequel. Then, by Prometheus 3, it would have been a kino trilogy, as long as the black goo remained a mystery up for interpretation and explored more about the engineers. Also no origins of the xeno, but small hints about their connection to the goo and the engineer religion.
I think that's what they wanted to do initially but somebody important got spooked by Prometheus' mediocre box office performance and demanded more xenos because they thought that would draw in the Aliens fans.
Probably because that's how it was portrayed to knvestors and what it was marketed as. Hence the poor reviews and Ridley having to be guided through how to make a film
Because they are very agile, durable, sneaky and reproduce extremely fast.
They could literally take over towns or large parts of cities before someone even figured out what's going on.
I love xenomorphs, would love to have one as a pet but I know how it would end 🙁
You are forgetting that everyone seems to be brain damaged in these movies.
I just assume that it's a timeline where they never switched off leaded gasoline.
If you people had read the comics you'd understand how much of a threat the xenomorphs would be if they could free roam on the earth
they are not.
they are just unknown and deadly to squishy pink meatbag humans.
humans piss themselves at this concept
Because they're fricking chimera ants that assimilate the DNA of things they consume and produce millions of offspring quickly.
>I mean
> humans learn how to neutralize their acid
> build acid resistant power armour
> film follows a team of xeno exterminators pulling the bugs apart while they impotently scree
> no human dies or is even injured
make it, put a bullet in the head of this shitty 'francise'
They did that in the comics, didn't go all that well
because plot armour, get rid of that. just 2 hrs of xenos getting stomped while blue collar dudes bullshit with each other over helmet radio
lmao
I'd watch it
They seemed to be extremely vulnerable to auto-tracking weapons.
You gotta remember they can impregnate most any animal thats large enough, they seem to have explosive breeding from the queen, in a way they don't feel sustainable, which if they were designed makes sense.
They also take on characteristics of things they breed with. If a xenomorph bred with an elephant it would be a behemoth. The xenos in the movies are so smart because they are part human
had never considered the intelligence to be inherited, interesting idea.
Unleash an alien queen, some eggs, and a few aliens in one or two key spots on Earth . . . and how long will it take for the human race to be wiped out?
They had a cult help them break free and spread in the comics.
Sounds like Trumpers rooting for coronavirus.
Same guy here. I'm guessing within a year max.
>throw soap at them
>their acid is now neutralized
>punch them in the cloaca
BRING IT ON YOU XENO PUKES.
Beyond based
think again, sweaty
It would be funny if given enough time to evolve instead of getting exterminated, the xenos turned into the tyranids
I sometimes wonder if they were better aesthetically pre-"zerging".
But then again, I like the old-fashioned carnifex...
I like it. The old carnifex looked like a genetically engineered battering ram. It can't even feed itself, all it can do is rip and tear.
The new one looks like a bug with a gun surrounded by other slightly different bugs with guns. The only difference between it and a hive tyrant is bulk.
Really the only nid that was improved by the change was the Zoanthrope.
The giger influence in these is so great compared to the zergs later. I like those, too, but still.
Well put anon. Also the Tyrant was just plain scary.
>the Tyrant was just plain scary
True. You see the malice, no the beast.
Here too you see Giger.
Were the zerg based on the Nids or were the Nids influenced by the Zerg?
Both.
Eh, good questions.
Maybe was Nids --> Zergs ---> Nids
Warcraft was going to be a Warhammer game initially but somehow they didn't keep the license and just went with it. Starcraft just rips off WH40K. I'm sure it influenced 40K afterwards as well.
We breed them until we make a Sil from the Aliens and I ll take care of the million Sils
>animals
Did this homie not watch Aliens? They aren't animals, they are actually highly intelligent. That and their ALIEN life cycle and physiology makes them incredibly dangerous, as well as the usual foreign contaminant threat. On top of all that, once they have a food supply they can reproduce like ants.
>once they have a food supply they can reproduce like ants.
What movie did you watch? They dont show Xenos eating a single time. The supply for humans is for reproduction.
the first one....? there's a scene just after the chestburster scene where I think they imply it got into food storage or something along the lines and gained mass so quickly it starts killing the crew hours to days after it was born. But yeah. humans too.
UP IN DA CLUB
Down low
Ar anon got raped by reality anon
>Why are they treated as an extinction-level threat?
Because they would absolutely be extinction level? They can use pretty much any animal to gestate and acquire their most useful survival traits and they reproduce and grow crazy fast. There would be several nests within days, within weeks there would be several variants of xenomorphs which would make studying their anatomy or behavioral patterns useless... within months they would have control of most areas rich on natural resources like sources of food or water. Then it`s just a matter of time. And that`s not even accounting for human stupidity. Ripley was right, if a xeno invades your planet nuke it from orbit... it`s the only way to be sure.
You have to imagine THEIR earth. Mega slums and similar places, or labyrinthine mega-structures off-world would lead to what is maybe not destruction of mankind but cyclical outbreaks of infestations.
>Dump a load of face huggers in areas such as Brazil
>Alien population expands rapidly
>Unable to nuke-the-site-from-orbit as the site happens to be the fricking amazon
>Becomes a global threat, ironically from the lungs of the planet
>dump facehuggers on snake island
>facehuggers get bit by six different snakes and the acid blood melts their teeth
I think it speaks to the movie industry.
Before Lucas and Spielberg it was Godfather and Ordinary People, long adult hippie dramas.
Then it was blockbusters, but meant for kids.
Alien took that blockbuster production and slapped an R-rating on it. So that adult edge with blockbuster production was an extinction threat to the movies around.
What finally took it out was ~1997. Fargo, People vs. Larry Flint, Pulp Fiction. How can we make the same money but with really cheap junk and low level actors?
Coda, how can we do it without even speaking English?
If they got on earth you would not be able to stop them. They would multiply in Africa. Imagine if aliens got into an airport. Or if the Queen started laying eggs in the NYC subway.
You would not be able to exterminate them fast enough. We’d run out of food and ammo.
Humans have to adapt to environments. The aliens automatically adapt to wherever they are, can survive in space or on different atmospheres. Acid for blood, multiplying. Or can lay eggs, go into hibernation and just wait to be found.
Predators are even worse. Just Space Samurai Demons with Mongolian-like instincts.
Frick you anon I still have nightmares about the predator hunting me and they are fricking TERRIFYING.
I saw Predator when I was like 7 and have had at least 6 dreams over the years where a Predator hunts me down and beheads me.
what if a face hugger impregnated a tyranasaurus rex?
I liked it when it was more like a space devil than a space bug. Aliens was good but it also spelled the end of the franchise with how it's essentially treated as a glorified movie monster.
>WY manages to capture one ayylmao
>place it in their "most secure" research site somewhere in the Amazon
>ayylmao breaks out
>it molts into a kweenz in some cave while WY quarantines the entire jungle
>eventually favelas and major cities get ayylmao'd, normies don't know yet due to media blackout
>eventually WY had to come clean and South America gets walled off
>doesn't work and eventually these ayylmaos makes their way to every major continent save for Australia
>clean up was great at first but the hives quickly decentralized and instead of just one kweenz per contintent it was one kweenz per a few square miles
>clean up and quarantine failed, all the elites frick off from Earf while the rest smuggle themselves into Australia
>The last starship fricks off from Australia and leaves millions behind
>Australia goes dark after 4 days
>survivors are stuck in a high orbit space station while Earf gets turned into a xenoworld where they never reclaim again
>elites live in paradise worlds where no one else but elites are allowed to enter
I guess in cqc it would be kind of an issue. But really not. They'd have to be in the perfect situation to survive anything really. You'd just drone them with a switch blade from miles away. They could try to dig I guess, but that really won't stop half the stuff we use anymore. I mean you'd just thermo the holes so.. the digging wouldn't do shit. Then maybe I'm a city, you just shoot through walls anyways. A jungle would kill them pretty fast and if that didn't drones again.
They can breed without hosts, and all you need to do is shoot a couple so whatever structure they are in collapses on them.
Hmm maybe in like metal tunnels but once again, thermoplastics/barics would kill them after you melted the tunnel around them. I'd go with maybe a swamp, but then again thermos turns the water itself into explosives.
Really a trained dog with an ied is scarier.
I got nothing man. They just are kind of lame. It would have to be some spaceship shit.
Assuming they have their full range of abilities - including those that were retconned like eggmorphing - a xeno can reproduce from ANY available lifeform. It's certainly true it would be nothing like as simple and straightforward as depicted, but if a xeno queen was stealthy enough and ended up somewhere remote with a massive herd population where they could spawn several hundred xenos without being noticed then sure they could take a town or two before getting nuked.
Gestation rate for new queens is never properly explained, but it can be assumed that every queen can produce at least one other queen. In the alien war comic it was implied it was a lot more frequent.
Power level homosexualry? In my Cinemaphile thread?
aliens are highly resistant to bullets but not invulnerable to them. when they catch us by surprise they're formidable. but give the humans some prep time and we'll bring out the high calibre weapons and frick them up pretty reliably as long as we have superior numbers. and if we don't have superior numbers we'll just bomb the shit out of their hive what the frick are they gonna do they're too dumb to build an f16
This is true, however if a facehugger were ever to gestate a marine mammal that'd be game over.
probably just take out the alien-whale with an nlaw missile, a man-portable weapon capable of knocking out a main battle tank. if it tried to walk on land anyways or just fire a torpedo at it otherwise. only so many whales too, the japanese could eat every last whale in a week if we just let them do it. before the aliens even have a chance to get at them
anyways the neat lore about aliens is they were made to destroy sentient species that exhibit bad tendencies. they were created as a filter so the only intelligent life that would survive them wasn't warlike and destructive enough to become a potential threat to the aliens creators. the aliens are a trap, the trap is if you're greedy enough to try and use them as a weapon they will destroy you. but species that leave aliens the frick alone rather then try and control them can survive them just fine.