What even is "cyberpunk", really? It's just sci-fi
High-tech, low-life.
Cyberpunk now has become synonymous of social justice: >whites = rich and evil >non-whites = poor and good >"good whites" = morons that need a non-white to lead them to check their white privilege
>now
I don't know about that. Certainly not all cyberpunk films are about capitalism/white man bad but total recall came out in the 90s and it's very explicitly about an evil martian corporation oppressing the natives. It's still a good movie
total recall is not cyberpunk you idiot. it's from a mid 60's story called We can remember it for you wholesale by philip dick. long before cyberpunk was even a thing. you idiots always look at it from the perspective of hindsight. imagine you were teenager in the 60s and you read this novelette. no one in your circle of even the niche media of scifi would have even heard the word cyberpunk let alone associated this story with it. the term cyberpunk wasn't even mainstream until blade runner came out. just because total recall came out after cyberpunk became a buzzword doesn't mean it belongs to that genre. scifi authors in the 50s and 60s just wrote scifi stories with some social commentary that alluded to the problems of contemporary society. They didn't call it cyberpunk then. So no, total recall is not cyberpunk. it's straightforward scifi.
The stuff Verhoeven added to the story is what's cyberpunk. I could be remembering wrong but I don't remember the mars corporation in the story.
Most of them aren’t A list titles even when they spent lots of money.
You need computer networks, cyborgs, or VR to be cyberpunk. You need a rebellious element to the story. Otherwise it’s just sci fi.
You can’t just add a prefix to -punk to get a valid genre, unlike what Wikipedia jannies started up. They have genres nobody recognize or don’t make sense to stories and how they classify movies.
I suppose there is a punk or grunge aesthetic that is also required. It’s not just add a Mohawk to someone and put a computer in the story. Also, crime is not an important element of cyberpunk, just ones that are cop stories.
??? It was shot in Toronto, whole city looks like an asset flip minecraft clone. Since it wasn't an overused location at the time they didnt even dress up the sets that much because it already looked like a cheap dystopian nightmare dump
The cyberpunk aesthetics of overcrowding; futuristic urban slums; rampant crime; a hopelessly chaotic culture clash of multiple races and languages all jammed into one space, cancelling one another out; and an entire society enslaved by one or two mega corporations is not a very fashionable topic right now, because we're well on our way to being there and the corporations don't want us talking about it.
total recall is not cyberpunk you idiot. it's from a mid 60's story called We can remember it for you wholesale by philip dick. long before cyberpunk was even a thing. you idiots always look at it from the perspective of hindsight. imagine you were teenager in the 60s and you read this novelette. no one in your circle of even the niche media of scifi would have even heard the word cyberpunk let alone associated this story with it. the term cyberpunk wasn't even mainstream until blade runner came out. just because total recall came out after cyberpunk became a buzzword doesn't mean it belongs to that genre. scifi authors in the 50s and 60s just wrote scifi stories with some social commentary that alluded to the problems of contemporary society. They didn't call it cyberpunk then. So no, total recall is not cyberpunk. it's straightforward scifi.
>So no, total recall is not cyberpunk. it's straightforward scifi.
the cyberpunk subgenre does not have definite boundaries. total recall is cpunk-adjacent which is why it was listed in the cyberpunk 2020 core rulebook as related media back then
Imagine how open sex would become if they make VR more cheap and accessible with touch sensors. Like you could go to any girl and she could be game since it's just in VR. Wouldn't even need to be in the same area
movies in this category--sci-fi thrillers or crime movies in their own universe not part of an existing IP--are simply not part of the current business formula. take away the futuristic aspect and these are noir, conspiracy, corporate intrigue, or just pulp crime stories, not exactly the superhero mold. and then they need big enough budgets to then build a unique world with an artstyle, etc. There's a resurgence of the aesthetic in games and other mediums but films are tough because that whole industry is in the toilet.
Megacorps don't want to make audiences feel sympathy for the victims of megacorps.
I'd rather be ruled over by omnicorp or Mars Colony Security Force than Blackrock
Cyberpunk now has become synonymous of social justice:
>whites = rich and evil
>non-whites = poor and good
>"good whites" = morons that need a non-white to lead them to check their white privilege
>now
I don't know about that. Certainly not all cyberpunk films are about capitalism/white man bad but total recall came out in the 90s and it's very explicitly about an evil martian corporation oppressing the natives. It's still a good movie
The stuff Verhoeven added to the story is what's cyberpunk. I could be remembering wrong but I don't remember the mars corporation in the story.
frick the man
What even is "cyberpunk", really? It's just sci-fi
High-tech, low-life.
Science fiction that focuses on the non-utopian aspects of highly technological societies, such as forms of crime and societal subversion
a dystopian near future sci-fi subgenre with a few distinctive traits like body augmentation, global computer grids and vitual reality
Name ten.
total recall
johnny mnemonic
strange days
blade runner
blade runner 2
the matrix
the matrix 2
the matrix 3
the matrix 4
akira
off the top of my head
"Blade Runner" (1982)
"Ghost in the Shell" (1995)
"The Matrix" (1999)
"Akira" (1988)
"Total Recall" (1990)
"A Scanner Darkly" (2006)
"Johnny Mnemonic" (1995)
"Dark City" (1998)
"Minority Report" (2002)
"RoboCop" (1987)
Dark City isn't even scifi thobeit. Its surrealist
>"A Scanner Darkly" (2006)
Nope
Wny the frick not?
Anything by PKD then?
Yes.
>tfw we will never see William Gibson kino and he basically formalized cyberpunk
run lola run at least makes an attempt right
That still looks amazing
>How did I get here?
>The thread opened, you clicked on it. Hell of a day, isn't it?
Most of them aren’t A list titles even when they spent lots of money.
You need computer networks, cyborgs, or VR to be cyberpunk. You need a rebellious element to the story. Otherwise it’s just sci fi.
You can’t just add a prefix to -punk to get a valid genre, unlike what Wikipedia jannies started up. They have genres nobody recognize or don’t make sense to stories and how they classify movies.
I suppose there is a punk or grunge aesthetic that is also required. It’s not just add a Mohawk to someone and put a computer in the story. Also, crime is not an important element of cyberpunk, just ones that are cop stories.
it's not cpunk but cpunk-adjacent
Is Total Recall really cyberpunk? I never got that vibe.
What else would you call it?
An science-fiction action. Though I suppose it does have cyberpunk elements.
Not him but sci fi?
Yes you dumb zoomer frick.
Imagine being the guy that Arnold uses as a human shield.
"Look kids, Daddy was in a movie once!"
Would have been pretty cool, being strapped with squibs.
lol imagine if it was the same actor
Could monopolize the business of being THE guy who gets riddled with bullets in every film.
This film has dated hard. You can tell it was all shot in the same studio lot room kek
still looks better than your green screen shitfest
Seethe you little homosexual
>little
I'm 187cm and 90kg. You scrawny zoomer homosexuals look like children around me.
>5'11.5
>not gonna make it
??? It was shot in Toronto, whole city looks like an asset flip minecraft clone. Since it wasn't an overused location at the time they didnt even dress up the sets that much because it already looked like a cheap dystopian nightmare dump
>This film has dated hard. You can tell it was all shot in the same studio lot room kek
you can't just call everything "cyberpunk" dipshit
The cyberpunk aesthetics of overcrowding; futuristic urban slums; rampant crime; a hopelessly chaotic culture clash of multiple races and languages all jammed into one space, cancelling one another out; and an entire society enslaved by one or two mega corporations is not a very fashionable topic right now, because we're well on our way to being there and the corporations don't want us talking about it.
Total Recall is a class of its own. I dont think anyone could ever make something on its level again. Thats and Fifth Element
PURE QUINOA
Good opinion
this could've been a legendary film but the lack of fashion and arnie makes it an enjoyable flick at best
>he thinks it's not a legendary film
Neuromancer and Snow Crash adaptations have been in development hell for decades now. Literally since the books were published lmao.
Hollywood version of Akira is taking forever too.
total recall is not cyberpunk you idiot. it's from a mid 60's story called We can remember it for you wholesale by philip dick. long before cyberpunk was even a thing. you idiots always look at it from the perspective of hindsight. imagine you were teenager in the 60s and you read this novelette. no one in your circle of even the niche media of scifi would have even heard the word cyberpunk let alone associated this story with it. the term cyberpunk wasn't even mainstream until blade runner came out. just because total recall came out after cyberpunk became a buzzword doesn't mean it belongs to that genre. scifi authors in the 50s and 60s just wrote scifi stories with some social commentary that alluded to the problems of contemporary society. They didn't call it cyberpunk then. So no, total recall is not cyberpunk. it's straightforward scifi.
>So no, total recall is not cyberpunk. it's straightforward scifi.
the cyberpunk subgenre does not have definite boundaries. total recall is cpunk-adjacent which is why it was listed in the cyberpunk 2020 core rulebook as related media back then
because we live in a cyberpunk society
Demolition Man was a documentary.
Imagine how open sex would become if they make VR more cheap and accessible with touch sensors. Like you could go to any girl and she could be game since it's just in VR. Wouldn't even need to be in the same area
Imagine people finding a way to hack it and literally mind raping people throughout the day
The remake of Total Recall is definitely cyberpunk though.
it ran it's course. what's something new you can do in with cyberpunk that hasn't already been explored?
blade runner 2049, ghost in the shell live action and altered carbon were released in recent years
blade runner 2049 was good
no it wasn't
It was.
2049 was a better live-action Ghost in the Shell movie than the 2017 one.
movies in this category--sci-fi thrillers or crime movies in their own universe not part of an existing IP--are simply not part of the current business formula. take away the futuristic aspect and these are noir, conspiracy, corporate intrigue, or just pulp crime stories, not exactly the superhero mold. and then they need big enough budgets to then build a unique world with an artstyle, etc. There's a resurgence of the aesthetic in games and other mediums but films are tough because that whole industry is in the toilet.