Literally fricking every stupid company has stopped doing original ideas.
MCU is the same fricking garbage
DC is the same fricking garbage
Disney is the same fricking garbage
Cartoon Network is the same fricking garbage
Nickelodeon is the same fricking garbage
Instead of supporting companies that tell stories to sell merchandise, how about you supporting writers tell stories because they have good stories to tell?
>It's a commercial product, not art.
It is literally art, anon. Crappy art, but art nonetheless.
>You save hundreds of hours using 3D models.
If you're a bad artist, yes. I've seen regular ass artists that have no issue with sketching out the incredibly basic poses here in a matter of minutes, much shorter than it would take to set up each individual model into their respective poses in each panel here.
3D refs aren't inherently bad, but directly tracing nearly every aspect of a character's proportions off of reference models results in their poses and body language becoming incredibly bland and undynamic as a result.
Not an artist myself, but if I were, I would use 3-D posers to keep track of where everyone is in the scene, so that when they move it doesn't generate continuity errors.
They should hire someone like me to write for them, I'll bring back the glory days of comics but since I'm not some diversity hire with a list of problems attached to my identity, I'll be ignored.
Repeatedly hearkening back to a watershed story is just how long-standing franchises work. Everyone knows that. For instance: >Pokemon in general >Disney in general >Transformers and that god damn '86 movie >Power Rangers having not two, not three, but four dinosaur-themed seasons
Even Crisis on Infinite Earths was a sequel to the regular JLA-JSA crossovers that frequently used the title "Crisis on Earth-Something":
Crisis On Earth-One (1963)
Crisis On Earth-Two (1963)
Crisis on Earth-Three (1964)
Crisis on Earth-A (1965)
Crisis Between Earth-One and Earth-Two (1966)
The Super-Crisis That Struck Earth-Two!" and "The Negative-Crisis On Earths One-Two (1967)
Crisis on Earth-X (1973)
Crisis on Earth-S (1976)
Crisis in the 30th Century (1977)
Crisis from Yesterday and Crisis from Tomorrow (1978)
Crisis above Earth-One (1979)
Crisis on New Genesis, Crisis Between Two Earths, and Crisis on Apokolips (1980)
Countdown to Crisis and Crisis in Limbo (1981)
Crisis on Earth-Prime (1982)
Crisis in the Thunderbolt Dimension (1983)
Family Crisis (1984)
Crisis On Earth-Prime (1982)
Repeatedly hearkening back to a watershed story is just how long-standing franchises work. Everyone knows that. For instance: >Pokemon in general >Disney in general >Transformers and that god damn '86 movie >Power Rangers having not two, not three, but four dinosaur-themed seasons
the original Crisis was a deliberate response to readers who, being kind of young in the 1960s, kept writing in asking why the JLA and JSA stories didn't match up
so National Comics, as DC was called until 1977, decided that the JLA and JSA could be from different worlds and cross over, and then they could refer to that and not have to explain why the two different continuities didn't make any damn sense
and 59 years later in 2022... DC's continuity is still fricked, and those 10 year olds who gave them all that trouble about continuity are shitting themselves in care homes
Rangers having not two, not three, but four dinosaur-themed seasons
One more ninja one and they're tied unless you count Donbrothers. Then the next season will be Ninja Dinos. which of course would use as an excuse to reference mighty morphin in the west again
I really wouldn’t call Zero Hour a sequel to CoIE while yeah it’s main purpose was to Unfrick the timeline that CoIE caused it was pretty much it’s own thing
Because people don't actually want new ideas. The want to feel happy and carefree like they did when they were kids.
DC tried new ideas once. Their reward was that Hal Jordan fans started sending in bomb threats.
Because they wont own the new stuff like they own the old stuff, creators dont give their best because of rights and fans like new stuff but with old, recognizable characters.
>he still reads the Big 2 in 2022
There’s a reason so many people have dropped them for manga and creator owned series and it becomes more obvious every year
Yet instead of talking about how much they enjoy those series they still come here to b***h and moan about how they hate the big two. So you kinda have to question how much they actually enjoy those “superior” comics.
Have you seen the state of comics and movies lately? Hardly anyone comes up with original ideas anymore. It's so much easier for them to come out with sequel 123850 or "what if your favorite series and characters but they're (insert reversed gendered/evil/had a bad end/whatever here)?!?"
Want to know why big corporations rehash shit all the time?
Original ideas are not only more expensive to develop well, but come with a smaller native audience, making them low-reward medium-risk. You would think that corporations would have the needed bulk to risk money on a lot of original ideas, and you'd be right, but it very rarely pays off, so those 'stupid idea guys' get rolled under the bus and the MCU comes out with a bland billion-dollar blockbuster.
Original content is almost always dominated by indie developers as a result, because they've already got everything to lose and knockoff products almost always need an original twist in order to not get mogged by the original that's being knocked off of.
Indie developers are rewarded for making original ideas. Corporations are rewarded for consolidating consistent products and then slowly iterating on it, like adding a new sidekick and seeing if that character sticks around before investing in them.
I don't want to say all human behavior is economic behavior, but in this case, if they don't get paid, they can't make a product.
Literally fricking every stupid company has stopped doing original ideas.
MCU is the same fricking garbage
DC is the same fricking garbage
Disney is the same fricking garbage
Cartoon Network is the same fricking garbage
Nickelodeon is the same fricking garbage
Creativity is dead
Originality died in the 60's. Everyone and their grandma knows this.
Instead of supporting companies that tell stories to sell merchandise, how about you supporting writers tell stories because they have good stories to tell?
Amazing art skills
Generic designs and worldbuilding
Generic world and world building.
But the story is good.
Okay...
i can see the 3d models these were traced off.
I think you're right, but what makes it obvious?
>i can see the 3d models these were traced off.
It's how the industry works. It's a commercial product, not art.
You save hundreds of hours using 3D models. And everyone does it.
>It's a commercial product, not art.
It is literally art, anon. Crappy art, but art nonetheless.
>You save hundreds of hours using 3D models.
If you're a bad artist, yes. I've seen regular ass artists that have no issue with sketching out the incredibly basic poses here in a matter of minutes, much shorter than it would take to set up each individual model into their respective poses in each panel here.
3D refs aren't inherently bad, but directly tracing nearly every aspect of a character's proportions off of reference models results in their poses and body language becoming incredibly bland and undynamic as a result.
Not an artist myself, but if I were, I would use 3-D posers to keep track of where everyone is in the scene, so that when they move it doesn't generate continuity errors.
wtf? When did Red Sonja have such amazing art?
Why did you pick THE worst example?
>Nickelodeon is the same fricking garbage
Anon, literally every Nickelodeon fan wishes that were true.
Ok
For some cartoons that rings true. Nick is still milking the sponge hard as always
Creativity is to be found on the margines, a place you aren't looking in.
You'd think after 30 years there'd be diminishing returns.
there is diminishing returns
comic buyers is a shrinking market
There is nothing wrong with a new Infinite Crisis per decade, the problem is how every other DC event is either power wank or overdramatic bullshit
They should hire someone like me to write for them, I'll bring back the glory days of comics but since I'm not some diversity hire with a list of problems attached to my identity, I'll be ignored.
You also know nobody in the industry so they wouldn't care either way.
Companies hire who they know and like, not literal whos.
Cry about it more.
I know you will, troony homosexual
out of pure curiosity, what do the "glory days" entail for Marvel and DC, in your opinion?
Replace COIE with Clone Saga and you have Marvel.
The clone saga doesn't come up nearly as much, I mean, look how long they kept batkek going and that's related to COIE via Final.
Repeatedly hearkening back to a watershed story is just how long-standing franchises work. Everyone knows that. For instance:
>Pokemon in general
>Disney in general
>Transformers and that god damn '86 movie
>Power Rangers having not two, not three, but four dinosaur-themed seasons
Even Crisis on Infinite Earths was a sequel to the regular JLA-JSA crossovers that frequently used the title "Crisis on Earth-Something":
Crisis On Earth-One (1963)
Crisis On Earth-Two (1963)
Crisis on Earth-Three (1964)
Crisis on Earth-A (1965)
Crisis Between Earth-One and Earth-Two (1966)
The Super-Crisis That Struck Earth-Two!" and "The Negative-Crisis On Earths One-Two (1967)
Crisis on Earth-X (1973)
Crisis on Earth-S (1976)
Crisis in the 30th Century (1977)
Crisis from Yesterday and Crisis from Tomorrow (1978)
Crisis above Earth-One (1979)
Crisis on New Genesis, Crisis Between Two Earths, and Crisis on Apokolips (1980)
Countdown to Crisis and Crisis in Limbo (1981)
Crisis on Earth-Prime (1982)
Crisis in the Thunderbolt Dimension (1983)
Family Crisis (1984)
Crisis On Earth-Prime (1982)
>still learning new shit about DC lore
No piece of narrative should be this big.
Huh. Today I learned something new
cool, so many crisis thanks
the original Crisis was a deliberate response to readers who, being kind of young in the 1960s, kept writing in asking why the JLA and JSA stories didn't match up
so National Comics, as DC was called until 1977, decided that the JLA and JSA could be from different worlds and cross over, and then they could refer to that and not have to explain why the two different continuities didn't make any damn sense
and 59 years later in 2022... DC's continuity is still fricked, and those 10 year olds who gave them all that trouble about continuity are shitting themselves in care homes
Your logic is fricked, there was a solid and clear continuity after COIE until New 52 and Rebirth
Rangers having not two, not three, but four dinosaur-themed seasons
One more ninja one and they're tied unless you count Donbrothers.
Then the next season will be Ninja Dinos.
which of course would use as an excuse to reference mighty morphin in the west again
I really wouldn’t call Zero Hour a sequel to CoIE while yeah it’s main purpose was to Unfrick the timeline that CoIE caused it was pretty much it’s own thing
11, 3, 5, 7, 2... if they stick to the pattern of leaving prime numbered year releases the next one won't be out for 13 years.
Maybe
People like sequels.
Because people don't actually want new ideas. The want to feel happy and carefree like they did when they were kids.
DC tried new ideas once. Their reward was that Hal Jordan fans started sending in bomb threats.
I guess DC fans just really like pedophiles
Because they wont own the new stuff like they own the old stuff, creators dont give their best because of rights and fans like new stuff but with old, recognizable characters.
This. Creators do the bare minimum and I dont blame them.
>he still reads the Big 2 in 2022
There’s a reason so many people have dropped them for manga and creator owned series and it becomes more obvious every year
Yet instead of talking about how much they enjoy those series they still come here to b***h and moan about how they hate the big two. So you kinda have to question how much they actually enjoy those “superior” comics.
What the frick are you talking about more people talk about My Hero Academia or Demon Slayer than every single Marvel comic combined
He's coping.
But they still feel the need to come here and cry.
Because you touch yourself.
Epic twitter poster does not understand what continuity is, which is funny because DC barely has it in the first place
Have you seen the state of comics and movies lately? Hardly anyone comes up with original ideas anymore. It's so much easier for them to come out with sequel 123850 or "what if your favorite series and characters but they're (insert reversed gendered/evil/had a bad end/whatever here)?!?"
Want to know why big corporations rehash shit all the time?
Original ideas are not only more expensive to develop well, but come with a smaller native audience, making them low-reward medium-risk. You would think that corporations would have the needed bulk to risk money on a lot of original ideas, and you'd be right, but it very rarely pays off, so those 'stupid idea guys' get rolled under the bus and the MCU comes out with a bland billion-dollar blockbuster.
Original content is almost always dominated by indie developers as a result, because they've already got everything to lose and knockoff products almost always need an original twist in order to not get mogged by the original that's being knocked off of.
Indie developers are rewarded for making original ideas. Corporations are rewarded for consolidating consistent products and then slowly iterating on it, like adding a new sidekick and seeing if that character sticks around before investing in them.
I don't want to say all human behavior is economic behavior, but in this case, if they don't get paid, they can't make a product.