Why can't modern animators create cool scenes?
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The song between vox and allastor both sounds and looks great
Hazbin hotel is not a villain of the week show
That was supposed to be helluva boss...
>both sounds and looks great
is this a joke? the lyrics are legit bad and don't flow that well
Nah they're good
4/10 bait
>Hazbin hotel is not a villain of the week show
>That was supposed to be helluva boss...
both taken in the same place. helluva boss is a side series.
This mogs on any shitty showtone Vivzie tries to write for her deviantart OCs.
I liked the 'Hell is forever' and ''Alaster vs Vox' song from hazbin. Everything else ranges from middling to shit.
For example, without opening another tab to refamiliarize yourself with it.
Does anyone here remember any of the lyrics from the cannibal song?
Can you even replicate the general tune of it in your head?
I sure as frick can't.
angel getting raped will be forever burned into my mind because i still cant believe they aired that. I cant even tell you if its good or bad its like captain hero sneaking up to a litle girl with a knife annd raping her but on steroids
You mean Ready For This?
It was easily the worst song on the OST but I still remember it
Loser and Hell Is Forever and Stayed Gone and Hell's Greatest Dad and You Didn't Know and to a far lesser degree Respectless and Fight For Love and Poison have been stuck in my head for weeks.
Have you considered that you just have a shit ear?
>every song
Black person, people only remember 1, maybe 2 songs from SU.
that's 1 or 2 more than I remember from Helluva Boss/Hazbin
Sorry anon but I gotta agree with the other one here. I remember jack shit of songs from SU compared to Hazbin. Much as people hate that Vivzie changed up the crew roster, having broadway talent did kick up the singing range and memorability of those songs, even the ones that sucked dog shit. Such a waste too, you get a singer like Estelle and the show instead focuses on some shitty kid singing with a ukelele a majority of the time.
Then you've never actually wa5ched the shows, you butthurt Rèddit gay. Even people that hate the show get the songs stuck in their head. Steven Universe was and will always be absolute cookie cutter shit tier baby doghsit.
>butthurt Rèddit gay
ok butthurt vivziegay
I'm not the one samegayging in the thread because his childhood show got raped.
>a minute apart
alright, samegay
You sound butthurt.
The song from the pilot, Inside every demon, is a banger tho
I remember...
The intro, Giant Woman, Stronger Than You, and...I vaguely remember that song Pearl sings when she's trying to fricking murder Bonnie in training.
its over isn't it is good. I also like on the road again.
and cookie cat jingle is funny
"HE LEFT HIS FAMILY BEHIND!"
All of Spinel songs
>People don't enjoy Rebecca Sugar songs
lmao
And even then the only memorable and objectively good song from SU got absolutely mogged by a shitpost mashup.
That shit absolutely slapped.
I can remember just from the thumbnail.
I remember three and I didn't even watch this fricking show. I just saw clips posted on /wsg/ all the time.
Stronger than You
Feeling Blue
It's over isn't it?
Other Friends
And the one the gems are reset
Also:
Here Comes a Thought
Giant Woman
i just want to see a woman's va gi na
A NAKED WOMAN'S VA GI NA
i'm steven
FRICK you! I'm the ORIGINAL Steven! Without me you'd be NOTHING!
i think it's time for me to quit music
>Art Director
Ralph Egg
>If you're evil and you're on the rise
>You can count on the four of us bringing you down
>Cuz we're good and evil never beats us
>We'll win the war and go out for pizzas
>WE
>ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
>WE ALWAYS SAVE THE DAY
>And if you think we can't
>WE'LL ALWAYS FIND A WAY
>THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD
>BELIVE IN
>Garnet
>Amethyst
>And Pearl
>And Steven!
They care way more about ships and shipping because modern Western animators are mostly hired from the same clique of people that grew up in shipping communities online. So they don't care about cool shit, they just care about ship shippity shipping. Remember, shipping is a mental illness and shippers should be mocked as relentlessly as furries for vicariously obsessing over the fictional relationships of characters that do not exist.
Where are the dudes who grew up on Toonami? You have all these white chicks making all these Sailor Moon/Harry Potter clones, but no guys making DBZ and Naruto ones.
OK KO
That's it?
That show looked like ass.
Hey you asked for it, you never said it had to look good
That's IanJ, who grew up on BtAS and 90s shows and somehow hated them and preferred shit like Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life.
They just became otaku
most of them I've noticed are either working in Japan themselves on these anime or they're doing other shit connected to anime like being vtubers
I thought vtubing was e-girl shit
males become vtubers and make millions as well believe it or not
Where are the dudes who grew up on Toonami?
next door on Cinemaphile
There are a few anons actually being published in Japan right now.
All of them already work at Japan and post on Cinemaphile
Making indie media so they could fulfill their wildest dreams without being hindered by the corpo bullshit of either the west or the east
writing is hard and I dont like going outside
Most of the (male) Toonami kids grew into coomers or just gave up on Toonami years ago. I used to watch it religiously every weekday, then every Satuday when it came back on Adult Swim. Then covid happened, and I really haven't looked back at anime or many cartoons in general since. It's all just... copy/paste now anyways. Animation is all outsourced to the cheapest South Korean studios that can't be creative with squash/stretch.
>Animation is all outsourced to the cheapest South Korean studios that can't be creative with squash/stretch.
You will be surprised to learn that western animation has been outsourcing to koreans since the 60s.
Both eastern/western animation has outsourced to that country since that era, though at that point outsourcing was usually restricted to low budget and/or "low priority" series.
Eh that sounds more like a very particular case. Most toonami babies switched to pirating anime and became otakus since it offered them 10000x more options and they probably didn't switch back when [as] restarted it. I wish more of them were like you though, toonami babies used to be the most annoying anime fans.
Reminds me of how all the potential cool alien shit in SU was mostly shoved aside for boring townie shit because Sugar made the show for "people like her" so it's like a deviantart coffee shop au given a budget.
Damn show started out as a globetrotting adventure show too where they went to ancient temples and fought monsters. Then season 2 and after was Steven doing random nonsense shit around town talking to mailmen and donut shop owners.
Nah its just Sugar or her team didn't know where to go from there, the long hiatuses and all the filler should have been a bigger clue. Another anon put it perfectly awhile back, that show or really its first season, was a fluke. I think I even remember reading how a lot of the shipping stuff didn't even come from her but other staff members who kept constantly pushing for it.
Back then I didn't realize how they actually made the show, I was tired, so I would relax.
More than that, it's really fricking hard to get an animation gig at all and you have to network. Which roughly translates to people only ever hire from their own small clique and nowhere else.
Pic related is fricking notorious for only ever hiring close friends from twitter to get any level job at Cartoon Network studios from 2014 to a year ago.
literally who
The israelite wife of a Disney animation exec
And I'm supposed to know who that is?
Who dis?
You are sort of there. But it's really the white women. They only ever want to work with people they can be friends with, and want everyone in an office they are not friends with to lose their job. So see now you got some white women in hiring positions, they only hire straight from Twitter (or Tumblr if it's 2013) people that share 100% of every interest and politics with until the whole crew is a single echo chamber. And they all grew up watching Sailor Moon and Tenchi Muyo on Toonami in 2001.
Honestly that shows more than ever when you see how many of the old Newgrounds guys seem almost soft blacklisted at this point.
What would cartoon network be like if they hired Newground-type animators instead of the usual deviant-art tumblrina type like Rebecca sugar?
Teletoon-tier shows with better animation
would have had actual cartoons and not softcore faux anime (for the most part, there were a few gays on Newgrounds).
bro there was shitloads of fake anime on Newgrounds, you've got dementia.
>"""there were a few gays on Newgrounds)."""
I'm talking the cartoonists actually worth a damn, not your low rated shit that got blammed
I feel like they’d be just as shit but in a different direction. It’s such a shame that there aren’t any normal people that happen to be artgays.
I like to think it'd be more like the old-school Cartoon Network in way
>how many of the old Newgrounds guys seem almost soft blacklisted at this point
name 5 because most of them are actually in the industry making stuff
Literally the only people from old newgrounds crew who didn't make it in the industry were the ones too autistic to even network amongst themselves or got comfortable making porn/non animator things l
Max G is a great example.
That wasn't the reason he didn't make in the industry you cum guzzling dumbshit homosexualron, he couldn't make it in the industry because of shit he made back then. Most notably the Quentin Tarantino video.
The shit psychicpebbles did wasn't worse?
>That wasn't the reason he didn't make in the industry you cum guzzling dumbshit homosexualron
woah buddy you should chill out
Max G has literally said in multiple videos his weird inferiority complexes pushed people away and his cope was to just double down isolating him further. You can even see in old panels on YouTube, other creators trying to be friendly and work the crowd with him and he's just being a standoffish prick the whole time until the other guy gives up and mentally checks out.
women are so catty, only hiring their "BFFs", why can't they just be professional and do their job?
>women are so catty, only hiring their "BFFs"
Basically everyone outside of a small quantity of actually competent men who maintain basically everything that need to be maintained do that. Whether it's indians or israelites or muslims only hiring people of their race, or white boomers who refuse to hire anyone who they don't personally know, nepotissam is dly the norm.
these types of women were never the top in their class. they are not the best. their art sucks, they suck at creativity. it drives them crazy that you have more talent than them. their only hope is sleeping their way into managerial positions. its so obvious its actually sad. they should just do live action. its harder to hide this now because everyone is critical of the industry and its management. dont support these people when they fall.
You say this like Pen Ward didn't hire his buddies regardless of talent
I know Ward said he hired artists that were making online indie comics at the time that caught his attention, but I don't know if he ever said they were buddies or even shared interests with him
Because that is the job when you're middle class
To gatekeep
If they were doing their job properly, they'd have a real job
Why can't we get anything as good as Sailor Moon or Tenchi Muyo then?
Because an entire 13 episode season will not be given the budget of a single episode of either of those? They have to cut all the corners.
I hate the nepobaby gang. They really can't create anything. Feeling them in Japan, a meritocratic society, gives me a nauseous feeling. No wonder they hate gaijin.
Japan has more than a few people who skate by on connections, but in general yeah their industry is so much more cut-throat do to the low barrier to entry allowing up-and-comers to rapidly displace anyone who gets too complacent.
Every piece of media has shippers, regardless of the amount of romance in the source media. JJK has zero romance and yet a good portion of the fanbase ship Gojo and Geto a frickton. Generation Kill is about the real world Marines 1st Recon in the second gulf war and it has a 520,000 word ship fanfiction.
The difference is that anime like JJK don’t pay the shippers ANY sort of attention. Western writers would NEVER have the balls to do half of the shit Gege did in Shibuya. Or more recently. If you know you know.
>Western animators are mostly hired from the same clique of people that grew up in shipping communities online.
honestly yea this tracks
Yes
Stop jerking to cartoon porn first
Ah yes, the good ol' days of Steven Universe
Clearly the point of the thread is to mock zoomers who are now officially entering the first years of the "back in MY day" phase of life.
I saw some video with zoomers recently where they started talking about how they were the last generation to really play outside, and they had cellphones and social media but "It was different because we used that to find girls." Gave me a hearty fricking kek.
I didnt have a cell phone and ive never used social media. Its probably why i have no friends.
you millennials really have no self awareness do you? you cant see the irony in this?
no because it's a natural circle, zoomers are close to turning 30 now anon. being out of touch is inevitable
I do see the irony of it, that's why it gave me such a hearty kek. I kek at them and my own generation for doing the same thing. "BACK IN MY DAY" mentality is universal.
Of what? Yes, as soon as generations of people start doing this, the generations on either side mock them. The younger ones accuse them of being out of touch, the older ones mock them for viewing relatively recent things or ways (which the older ones view as mostly indistinguishable from the current) as old classics or methods representative of a better time.
Of course, the "30 year old boomer" meme literally started out as making fun of exactly that
Zoomer here. The irony is why my generation deserves every bit of mockery they're receiving for this. When we were kids, we were told everything we were growing up on is shit by millennials who peaked in high school and constantly blabbed about what le 90s kids they are. Later we all agreed "wait, those guys were complete manchildren and we should let kids be kids and enjoy what they enjoy. Hell, if our relationship with the millennials is any indication, half of it will be our hand-me-downs anyway."
Clearly, some people didn't get the fricking memo.
Out of curiosity, how old are you?
25. I guess I'd be a bit older than the zoomer who posted this but the point stands.
>"90s kids" are in their 40s
Oh is that what they were saying? I thought the tweet was referring to both SU and Hazbin as being unable to create anything cool.
Using Steven Universe as an example is bad when so many newer cartoons mog the shit out of it in every conceivable way.
Also lmao at SU gays trying to start beef with Hazbin when their show is somehow more embarrassing.
>Using Steven Universe as an example is bad when so many newer cartoons mog the shit out of it in every conceivable way.
they know. Steven Universe is chosen because it’s an easy target.
That Calarts TMNT show proves them wrong
Nope, proves em Right, its just Korean Faux-nime copying 2000s Gainax, aka, CHOPPY GAINAX.
>Korean
Rise was animated in Kangaroostan
>Nope, proves em Right, its just Korean
stopped reading there cause you don't even know what the frick you're even talking about
doesn't have to be made by calarts grads to be calarts style
doesn't have to be made by koreans to be korean style
cope
>doesn't have to be made by koreans to be korean style
I bet you couldn't even explain what the "Korean style" even is
>copying 2000s Gainax, aka, CHOPPY GAINAX.
It's sad seeing people try to talk about anime when they can't even bother to learn the names of directors or key animators.
I miss retro universe and their great animation
You mean when they traced over anime?
That was sarcasm, the fight looks like horseshit
i think that was outsourced
>i think that was outsourced
what part? the coloring?
the whole scene. it's just something i read a few times though so take it with a pinch of salt
https://joethejohnston.tumblr.com/post/85258055208/stevencrewniverse-pearl-vs-pearl-timing
good to know, thank you
>imagine steven the fat sucker has good animation
zoomers need to be reeducated
That's not even animated. You posted a still image.
>millenials are too stupid to detect obvious sarcasm
We now live in a time where zoomers are actually out IQ-ing the millenials by one point. Sad! Also that still image are illustrations by talentless millenials who can't draw. Why do millenials suck at everything? Boomers should have beat them harder with the belt.
Modern animators are communists who hate creativity and work so much that they refuse to do anything that requires effort. Hence why America is the only country that doesn't actually have an indie scene. They literally go out of their way to make sure other artists fail.
The utter stupidity in this post. I swear to God.
you should have just done what everyone else did, simply ignore the moron and not give him a reply
It is bizarre how even when cartoons hire animators who know what they're doing, the final product still looks like shit. I imagine it's the art direction not allowing them to do certain smears or techniques that doesn't fit the style.
It's because modern animators are absolutely obsessed with keeping things on model to the point that they forget what smear frames are for and never use them for going "off model".
Yeah basically what these guys said. In real life your eyes perceive fast motions as blurs and bend and stretch an image, it's the reason bobbing a pencil up and down between your fingers makes it look like it's made out of rubber. Smears, squash and stretch, etc. are meant to play into the way our eyes perceive motion, which creates a more natural look. It's fine to keep characters on model, but if you dogmatically stick to that approach even in times of fast movement and action your animation ends up looking stiff, slow, and even unnatural. The principles of animation were figured out by actual professional artists that worked heavily with realism before they got into animation, they knew what they were talking about and ignoring those principles for the sake of frame-by-frame consistency is a mistake.
Groening famously hated how that looked because of how off model it would get and had to get that episode redone several times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K8pMvKBgXw
That IS excessively off model, holy shit
that doesn't mean it was bad, it just didn't fit the Simpsons
>oh gosh they don't even obey the laws of physics augh... gee whiz I'd cancel this show
they sound like a bunch of gays
Groening is also a moron who had nothing at all to do with the success of the Simpsons beyond coming up with the initial concept. He also hates one of the best episodes in the series simply because it was a crossover.
Wasn't he forced to do it?
>t. Ian Maxtone-Graham
The only truely off model looking stuff was at the beginning and it was mostly homer.
Who the frick cares about that fat frick hack? Fricking George Lucas of animation, the only reason The Simpsons were as good as they were back were because of his tard wranglers like Sam Simon.
>t. Ian maxstone graham
This is very off model but personally for me i think it looks cooler that way, like a vintage cartoon
Good choreography but its way too slow for a fight scene and it also has barely any weight
Groenings desire for on model shit is probably why disenchanted looks so shit. He’s not a real cartoonist
>picrel
Of all the shots they removed I'm glad this one was left in, it's probably the best shot from the WIP version of the episode
it looks really cool, but I don't like how slow their movements are, smears are important
I still laugh everytime I remember people saying this was superior to everything else in western and animu animation.
It was funny to tell them their show was gonna end in the shitter anyways.
I'd say the actual choreography is surprisingly good for a non-Joaquin Dos Santos directed American cartoon. But I agree with the person who also said it felt off. It feels like it should be faster paced and more frantic instead of looking like it's moving in slow motion. It's kind of lifeless.
>It feels like it should be faster paced and more frantic
Nah.
Cartoon fights at least know when to end instead of dragging on for 10 episodes of lame exposition
Watch more anime.
nah One piece's 1090+ episodes was the last straw for me
>last straw
Heh. I get it.
You understand the core fans of those series are literally there for the fights right? It's why they tuned In. It's why battle shounen is an enduring sub genre. They don't care about who wants to kiss who. They only care about works building as an effective vehicle for the fights. To them stories start and end on elaborated combat.
Toonboom crap.
it looked better in this rougher form, I assume this is a case where outsourcing is what decreased the quality
lurk moar homosexual
This is great boarding and choreography, the problem is solely using the cheapest outsourced animation money can buy. Animation studios have been in a race to the bottom for a while now and they're reaching the planet core.
This is good animation and I wanna have sex with these characters
>it looked better in this rougher form
This is the exact same issue with people who think their sketches look better. This is not even close to finished, so you're filling things in with your mind.
The only real problem the outsource studio adds is line weight, and that's an art direction issue across the entire show. If western animators want their animations to look better, it's imperative for them to take their animatics to a more polished state.
This looks better because it excludes any part where it shows the kids or holds on character's expressions.
It makes you forget it was just made in outsourced toonboom.
>shaking in 0:05
>no shaking in the same timeframe
wtf were they thinking?
The problem with this fight is the characters move very slowly for what should be a fast action scene. They also look very stiff. There's no squash and stretch or smear frames and they barely make any facial expressions reacting to whats happening.
I remember some sakuga twitter account posting this and every single comment was calling it ass lmao.
Those same twoomers would probably call this scene ass as well
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/232760
Not enough emphasis on FX, post-processing, or characters zipping around like they're in DBZ for their minds, it seems.
That fish had way more expressivity than anyone in the owl house webm.
Moreso than most modern anime action scenes too
Why would two pure casters be especially fast?
This looks so fricking cringe holy hell
Well the Owl House is a pretty cringe show, yeah
I just can't stand how their faces move and look. So silly for what seems like a pretty cool choreographed fight.
>I still laugh everytime I remember people saying this was superior to everything else in western and animu animation.
That can't be real. Maybe as a joke.
It's well animated and all but it tries to be anime so bad, ew.
I've seen better fights in early one piece
>The kids running away 10 seconds in
Holy shit that is comical. There's no urgency, they look mildly inconvenienced, not like they're dodging a giant ball of fire.
It rains acid in their world. This is a very normal amount of danger for them.
They’re trying so hard to be like anime.
Good. Action shows shouldn't use the theater-staging that 90's era comedic cartoons used. It's not a good fit.
This looks like one of those '4k/60fps' YouTube videos, it looks... weird. Maybe I'm animebrained.
There are elements of this that are good, but there's such a weird weight to everything they do where they keep doing that easing in to a sudden movement thing that quickly comes to a dead stop, and they do it for EVERY SINGLE ACTION.
I get why someone might think this is a hype moment or how it's so cool and creative, but this reads like them trying their hardest to be anime (they even sneak in some yutapon cubes), and not realizing that action needs weight and impact, not just flashy effects.
>and not realizing that action needs weight and impact, not just flashy effects.
Tell that to the people making these sorts of scenes even in anime today.
I don't understand this point. yes there are plenty of shitty animated fight scenes in anime anime today and there were plenty of them 30 years ago as well. That doesn't change the fact that most of the best animated and well choreographed fight scenes come from anime and most westerners would kill to be able to work on something like that. An example from this thread being rebecca. I bet she wished her pearl vs holo pearl fight has at least 10% of the motifs and colors displayed in an Utena fight.
Remember when the camera in anime didnt move spaztically, and backgrounds wwre Maya CGI and characters didnt move choppily and we had flashy ligjts with no safety filters because "MUH POKEMOM EPYLEPSIES"?
What's wrong with shows being safer for photosensitive people, Black person? And besides we've still got a ways to go on that front actually.
It seems lazy to just put a filter on it afterward; you should be able to just make it appealing without making it too bright
They already put warnings to watch the show far from the TV and on bright rooms, yet they still add the blurrouts and sometimes frick with the level contrasts that make shit dark or even the framerate, ALL animes in the 2000s had that shit and it looked HORRIBLE, and it still looks horrible on modern shows, they even use it for fast motion shots for crying out loud, not to mention animation is worse and choppy anyways so why they even bother with the blurrouts?
The Pokemon Porygon Fiasco was just a case of Japanese Media Sensationalization, and the japanese drank all the koolaid and NEVER bothered investigating further because OH SO OFFENSIVE.
Even more insulting is when modern releases of older anime add them, and is just awful.
You realize they only add dimming for broadcast copies right? This includes stream versions. If you want non-dimmed action sequences you have to watch the home video version, which for modern remasters means blu-ray rips only.
So basically, streamgays get cucked yet again with inferior quality.
And streaming copies and Blurays too? You complacient dumbass? We had discussiom on Cinemaphile over bad color regradings of movies
>implying Cinemaphile has enough IQ to even to simple math much rather discuss movies
Cinemaphile is surprisingly odd.
Cinemaphile also gave off a surprisingly gentle vibe at times which baffles me. That's not related to anything, I just wanted to throw it in there.
Cinemaphile went to shit the moment crypto became mainstream. I legit loved seeing some business ideas being thrown around every few threads, actual financial discussion and of couse, stock market DD that weren't memes.
Bruh, modern anime releases get c•uck•ed too.
> ALL animes in the 2000s had that shit and it looked HORRIBLE,
2000s had some of the best and most creative ever though.
Body slams always seem silly to me at this level of power. Like his punches and kicks are obviously superhuman to take apart robots, but is he supposed to be super heavy too? Don't get me wrong, that was an impressive jump, but he doesn't seem to be propelling himself downward at all, he's just landing on it with as little PSI as he can.
In all honesty it's just because the guy who animated that is a big fan of pro wrestling (his younger brother is president and CEO of New Japan Pro Wrestling as well). That and it looks cool.
what anime is this?
Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer
Ah, my first experience of anime incest.
Yeah you don't get to bring up 90ths OVA, they aren't TV shoes.
>Half the people replying to the owl house fight are b***hing that it's trying to be anime
>Here's a good fight scene
>It's literally anime
what
That anime was only made to sell a video game, and looks like that.
It’s jarring to see parts of go from smooth to stilted in seconds.
This fight would've been so much cooler with smears.
It's not only missing smears, it's missing holds, which is another topic Western Cinemaphile misunderstands. A lot of people criticize anime as being floaty because of it, but it's a cinematic effect, like varying frame rate within a single action. The animators want the viewer to get a better look at the coolest pose or the moment of strongest impact within the action. It helps a scene read while still being very fast, so you don't have to slow the fight down.
This isn't something everyone needs to like, but it's why whenever you see a cartoon try to copy an anime fight without holds, like this shot, you instinctively feel it's off.
are you implying western Cinemaphile doesn't do holds or are you just referring to this one shitty example?
It's not that western animation doesn't have holds, it's where, when, and how it's used. Like I mentioned, western animators tend to think anime holds go on for too long, which is true if you think of a motion in real time. That's what makes it a cinematic technique in anime. They hold longer than real-time.
Even after all of these years avatar mogs the shit out of other western shows in terms of fight scenes
>animation has gotten so bad that steven universe is now considered peak animation
There's no way people actually believe this. I remember when Steven universe was mocked to hell for how awful and homosexual it looked.
>some people are so obsessed with thinking about animation with their genitals instead of objectively evaluating strengths and weaknesses that they say stupid shit like OP
fixed that for you
Am I misunderstood OPs tweet? I thought they were literally showing Steven Universe isn't cool ether, as a second example towards their broad generalization. Was I the only one reading it this way?
Welcome to Twitter double speak. Effective tweets have deliberately ambiguous wording so that they can be interpreted as "correct" by a wide range of people with different opinions, therefore increasing exposure and engagement.
AFTER THE BATTLE
MASTERLESS CATTLE
STEVEN UNIVERSE HAS NO THREADS
Budget and studio interference to keep costs low, while in Japan, if you don't work yourself to death you better go into the suicide forest and stab yourself with your katana.
Imagine considering anything other than porn versions of the females from su good.
we should ban low quality Twitter threads
>Twitter screencap thread
Not only that, it's also a not so thinly veiled east vs west thread. I really don't understand why people keep replying to this shit or don't know of the concept of saging.
What's saging?
Look it up, homosexual
>lurk moar homosexual
Cinemaphile was in its post-post-cancer stage when I joined, but even then people still said that. I can't remember the last time I saw someone be told to lurk moar now.
Anon the reality is that the majority of this board is underaged newbies. They don't even know what saging is. Cartoons just don't attract adults, this is immediately obvious if you scroll on "Cartoon Twitter" for a few minutes, click on a few profiles and realize the average age is 15 years old. Then those said 15 year olds come here because they want to be able to say "homosexual".
granted wanting to say homosexual, Black person, israelite and slurs is a perfectly justified reason to come here
>Twitter screencap website
Whine forever
just stating facts
LOL my bro is obsessed with this show for some reason so seeing this just makes me laugh
The animation in season 2 was already bad but compared to Hazbin it's just embarassing.
What a trainwreck Prime's Invincible has been. Hopefully they don't fricking blow it with Hazbin too.
And they still needed a break? I really hope s2 has some good fight scenes. Atom Eves origin had a better fight than the entirity of Invincible.
Why would he want to hurt the dog
Gumball was the only good modern cartoon that had good action scenes...
reminder that the SU Crewniverse are now working on anime
I like how people immediately spotted his scene because a background character looked like it was taken straight out of Steven Universe
are you referring to the one in the first pic?
yes!
Toei deserves its current reputation for being cheap
I'm impressed that they have the ability to draw in, much less animate in, an anime style. Typically westerners wind up with that uncanny westaboo look
Ian must be a cut above the rest.
The episode director was an American that has been working in the anime industry for about a decade IIRC
*weeaboo
Oops.
That's cool
His layouts must've been corrected by the in-house staff.
>toei
Must be a pretty low bar.
there were quite a bit of westerners on that episode but there could have been some correction/revision
one piece has a pretty wacky artstyle so its easy for westerners to dip their toes into it
That "samurai's" nose bothers me.
>I got to animate (LO
Damn, I didn't know Ian was this based.
The milf magazine might have suited his tastes better.
You dont have to remind people, we can tell.
So do western animators working on japanese shows get paid the same shitty salary as korean ones, or...?
I wouldn't be surprised if they were. It's a race to the bottom, like that other anon said.
A recount from Henry Thurlow:
>Before getting hired, interviewers would warn Henry that it was a “tough industry”. The hours would be long and the pay would be low. He soon discovered just how much of an understatement that was.
>“Let’s just be clear: It’s not a ‘tough’ industry… It’s an ‘illegally harsh’ industry. They don’t pay you even remotely minimum wage, they overwork you to the point where people are vomiting at work and having to go to the hospital for medicine. They demand that you come in whenever they realize a deadline isn’t going to be met. That probably means about a month and a half of nonstop work without a single day off. Then you will be allowed to go back to your regular six-day workweeks of 10-hour days.”
>And, unlike the friendly camaraderie of American studios, in Japan they are completely silent. Thurlow says, “No one talks, or gets lunch together or anything. They just sit and work in complete silence and seem uninterested in changing this.”
>For a salary that’s been as low as $100 a month, the never-ending work schedule has landed Thurlow in the hospital three times for exhaustion and illness.
That sounds western AAA game studio levels of nightmarish
>Twitter screencap thread
have a nice day you homosexual
I might just be illiterate because I am an ESL but is he seriously saying that S.U did anything cool with their animation?
SU is a modern western show so no
i dare you to tell me "kill this fricking clown" isn't cool
i forgot to link
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Wtf is that initial gay talking about? The best looking SU fighting scenes were straight up outsourced to an anime studio and the rest vary A LOT(not to mention when they "reference" other animu fights). There are maybe 3 or 4 that are remarkable and original but that's a low number for such a long show.
Name one Hazbin Hotel song which isn’t shit.
Hell is Forever
Hell's Greatest Dad
>shroommeister's 5th fake thread about anime, cartoon network, or adult swim autism
Why can't you just get banned?
Meds. Now, schizogay.
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Meds, now, Schizogay.
Because modern western animators, especially those who are in the industry, are talentless stupid millennials with no art or animation skills. They're also broke too for enrolling in a stupid animation college.
Gen X is the last generation to make cool animations in the west.
>They're also broke too for enrolling in a stupid animation college.
>t. moron
>t. moron
Sorry (not sorry) you were born a moron.
Still OBSESSED years later LMAO
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Because they're made by Lisa Simpsons and Milhouses for Lisa Simpsons to watch. Lisa is not cool.
Shroommeister having another fricking tantrum because he caught samegayging on his shitty thread. Dumbass Hispanic.
Take your crazy pills
No the frick they aren't. Hell Futurama, Family Guy, American Dad, and a hand full of others clear Steven Universe's weird one take talk singing mumbles.
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have a nice day shroommeister, you aren't going to make people care about Family Guy or Futurama
he doesn't have to? family guy is more relevant than steven universe or any tumblr-audience show combined.
God the Robot Hell song is so damn catchy.
>hand full of others clear Steven Universe's weird one take talk singing mumbles.
anon what the frick are you talking about
He's talking about Steven Universe's weird one-take, talk-singing mumbles.
Blessed anon, unfortunately the zoomies on this thread don't know that Seth MacFarlane is actually incredibly based and talented, his inspiration from classic Broadway is palpable and it shows, but Twitter trannies don't get references from cult movies from 50 years ago so they'll say it's shit of course
Tell me if there's a SINGLE Hazbin Hotel song, that's not only as catchy but also as meaning than the Ollie North song from American Dad ?
Yea, American Dad has by far the most variety of genres, a weird amount of it is R&B too.
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Feels like its been forever since AD had any good songs or songs in general. I haven't been following the later seasons though.
>Robot hell
Are you delusional?
Here's what a single guy did in SFM in comparison:
Nvm, misunderstood your post.
who the frick is shroommeister, why does this schizo care and most importantly why do I care about this
>cool scenes
>they're always fights
do hispanics really?
Holy hell this schizomoron is obsessed with some twitter nobody, all of my keks
Why is the board full of some many schizos than before? Jesus Christ.
Not quite as flashy as these other examples, but still really fluid
Another decent example, same production
I like this one: but the animation in:
feels a little odd to me. That animation reminds me of Paul Ter Voorde's work, though, was he involved in this?
Doesn't appear to be, wasn't posted under his account either, was some multinational media conglomerate, think it had some Japanese in the bio so it might've been foreign-borne.
This type of ultra fluid animation always works better with a fixed camera
ok. the camera doesn't really move that much.
Im not criticizing it, im complimenting saying it works better in the one you posted bwcause of that
"fluidity" is highly overrated.
I'll take choppy animation with good art over this shit any day
Can't I have both good art and fluidity?
No.
Well shit no wonder this medium's so dismal.
That's what Disney has always been
Now they do it all on computers tho which is gay
cgi can be good, though i prefer the sheer amount of artistic variety it has in games moreso than in animation (okay maybe anime and sony pictures as well to some degree). i know i'm not getting pixar quality with the former, but it still makes up for it in more ways than one
Technique >>>>> tools. You can do it in the shittiest animation software possible and still make it look good if you put the frickin' effort in. Case in point: Flipnote animators.
explain what's so "bad" about the art without using any overused buzzwords
Costs too much money in this economy to do so. Sure, you make it with love, but will it bring home the dough?
If he saw a single minute of this show he'd be eating his own words
Are all the Hazbin Hotel songs worse than the songs in Crazy Ex Girlfriend?
The virgin Steven Universe vs. the chad Hazbin Hotel
The only SU song I remember is giant woman and that's only because it's tied to one of the only good action scenes in the entire series as well as the best fusion that never gets used again. Really everything about SU is a disappointment after that episode.
>tfw twitter screencap thread has twice as many posts as your thread actually discussing a cartoon
>furry
>weeaboo
>twitter
>moronic
>OP worships xe/xer opinion
Lol
>SU has songs
the more i hear about this show, the more I'm spooked
Spooked? You're fricking spooked?
About fricking what? It's a lame slice of life cartoons about lesbian space rocks raising an effeminate fat child because his father pumped and dumped one of maybe three heterosexual space rocks and then went to live out the back of his van playing guitar and washing cars for a living.
Spindle Horse (Vivs animators) actually can though, as can Glitch. It's the corpo slop that can't.
what?
schizopost
WTF why does this place attract so many schizos
I don't get it
This moron got ratioed hard on Twitter, you’re a homosexual if you think this site is your safe haven
and yet no one was able to prove him wrong
OP's wrong, western animators sure know how to make a scen-ACK
what are you trying to say
all i know about SU is that it sucks, and id rather watch 12hrs worth of fanmade hazbin musicals m8
Anyone have some Monkie Kid webms?
>Why can't modern animators create cool scenes?
They can, just none of you homosexuals watched it because you got filtered by a 'gross' art style.
Amen
this looks like it was animated by the Looney Tweens Cartoons studio
nah, one is WB and the other is netflix's studio apparently
>filtered by a 'gross' art style.
Wait, did people really call this "gross"? Rise was one of the few fricking western animated shows of late that actually HAD a fricking style. I guess it's similar to the phenomenon in comics where if a book doesn't have the same, tired, safe "Marvel/DC house style" art, people automatically think it's "bad art".
There's a running joke that people thought RotTMNT had an 'ugly style' when all they really meant was they didn't like black April. It doesn't help that the show looks a lot better in motion than in stills sometimes. If you google it most of the stills are pretty janky despite the show usually looking pretty great. Even the fish and ladders fight which was a standout moment in a series full of them isn't on youtube which just seems like it's pulled to tank the show.
It wasn't the art style anon, it was bad character writing. Fancy animation can't save a show when writters are shit.
The reason why western animation can't keep up with japan when it comes to cool scenes is that we put way too much importance on "writers" instead of artists and animators when it comes to animation
>Fancy animation can't save a show when writters are shit.
JJK and demon slayer before it are the most popular thing in the world
Both of those series are terribly written
It's a visual medium, good visuals and animation is all that matters
It weirds me out how JJK has a regular show meme where Skips legit has a far more emotional, more intense, and cooler character design than any of the characters in the actual anime/manga.
>Skips
Muscle Man
Demon Slayer was popular as a manga and it has shit artstyle.
>It's a visual medium
Film/tv in general is a visual medium, do you watch live action programs just for the visuals?
RotTMNT was criminally slept on. Now you're simping over that Lego show they're doing.
I thought the same when i saw it but the on the other hand the story was a bit odd, unfortunately the only way i can describe it is "Zoomer humor", the pace just a tad too fast and trying too hard on action and humor
You're not wrong. Rise had some cool action scenes, but they were crammed between numerous annoying as frick filler episodes that were hard to tolerate. They made the classic blunder of thinking that trickling the good shit throughout an entire season would hook people enough to secure them unlimited new seasons, and then they got axed and had to cram a ton of their best ideas in the ass end of their last (2nd) season.
>filler episodes
I am so deeply sick of people who don't understand what "filler" actually means. Not every single episode of a show needs to drive the plot forward. There was a time when people would simply sit and watch a cartoon to enjoy the ideas and visuals and sounds that had been crafted and presented to them for the purpose of entertain,ent.
You need to stop watching every episode of a show, wondering what you'll get out of it to keep your long-shorted serotonin receptors buzzing. Just fricking watch a goddamn cartoon, man. Christ. Every episode of RIse is entertaining, regardless of what it does for the plot.
youre right, I never saw this show and I always forget it exists, but every time I see fight scenes from it I do have to admit they look fantastic, miles above anything anyone else in the industry is doing
This show was an absolute joy to watch for the choreography. Literally the best fight choreography I've seen in western animation since Avatar TLA
This was the exact scene that I knew I had to watch this show with my friends. We get together every thursday to watch animated stuff, and I usually only submit series that I'm absolutely certain we'd find enjoyable, and this scene was just the gorgeously animated culmination of so many ridiculous-yet-important moments. I can say with completely confidence that the worst episode of Rise is the first one, and then it immediately gets better.
Cinemaphile can b***h all it wants, but Rise probably also had the best portrayal of the TMNT as "family" out of all the animated Turtles shows, by far.
Agreed. I went through the same thing with 2012. I hated the cg, the show looked stiff and clunky with sparse background that seemed dead and lifeless. I avoided the show until it got a season 3 or 4 at which point I figured it must be good to keep going that long, went back and slogged through the first few episodes and it just got better and better. I initially didn't like Rise because I watched the first episode and it didn't grab me but I gave it a chance and it just got better and better. The Rise movie is probably one of the best pieces of TMNT media there will ever be. It stands up there with the first live action movie for me. It's the second best TMNT movie of all time.
What I like about Rise's action is that, while it is undeniably anime influenced, that clearly isn't its only source. It has a distinct western bent through its ability to seamlessly incorporate cartoon gags as part of the action, like how Donnie is literally swimming in mid air just so he doesn't fall.
It's something that hasn't really been much of a thing in anime itself since Tezuka, so it's neat to see RoTMNT bring it back.
>like how Donnie is literally swimming in mid air just so he doesn't fall.
It is a little Lupinesque.
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I've seen a ton of clips from this show and I always feel like the action itself looks cool and fun, but I just wish they would let the camera stop moving for 5 fricking seconds, like it feels like the animation equivalent of modern action movies that cut 20 times every scene because they're just always doing SOMETHING with the camera even when they really don't need to be like the wide shot at 0:15 in that clip you posted, why does the camera need to be moving up and down and left and right during that sequence? It's just more distracting than anything else, let the action itself do the work, it's good enough.
This is "I wish I was Japanese" animation.
It's too fast - you have to rewatch or go frame-by-frame, like an animator, to see what characters are doing.
There's constant misdirection - which part of the screen are you supposed to watch when two things are happening at the same time, be it characters or objects moving?
There's just a complete lack of frames.
The tropes are just weeb rehashes of popular anime of yesteryear.
It's much better than what Japan could ever produce but no western hands should be ordering Koreans to make this slop.
>"Koreans" again
can you just shut the frick up already?
>There's constant misdirection - which part of the screen are you supposed to watch when two things are happening at the same time, be it characters or objects moving?
This is called rewatchable animation. Where you can go back and watch it multiple times and notice new things. It's chaotic because it's a fight scene. There are better examples of this in RotTMNT but that fish and ladders scenes is one of the few that has been clipped. Pick any random episode of the show and you'll see better directed fights or more chaotic ones or more imaginative uses of props or locations.
>It's much better than what Japan could ever produce
Not at all.
It's flashy, it's stylized, it's very colorful and fun to watch. It definitely matches the hyper energy the show wants-- but I'm not the biggest fan of that style. It's good, but it seems like it's the "go-to" for so many animators. All comic book material MUST look like this. Any fight scenes in cartoons MUST be anime-inspired.
Maybe I'm boring, but I appreciate a good fight scene with limited camera movement and basic actions-- where a character doesn't do three somersaults in the air just for style. I've never been a fan of just pointless action even though I understand why people think it's very fun.
I admire thé animation, i just hate the writing
It got a lot better when the focused more on arcs and serialized plot
The episodic first season was pretty bad but it kept improving up to the movie which was great
>i just hate the writing
Same, stick with it though, it gets better.
>furry twitter
Cinemaphile is Twitter 2.0
Quality and coolness require a sense of standards, a definite top and bottom
legitimately do not understand what kind of brain damage you need to like the songs in steven universe and adventure time
they seem bad and cringy on purpose, but apparently aren't ?
puzzling
>they seem bad and cringy on purpose,
That is the same vibe I got from Adventure Time as a whole. I was convinced for years people here only liked it ironically because it was so obviously shit, on purpose, but then it became this whole phenomenon.
IDK man Hazbin Hotel just takes the same kind of songs but adds aggressive cursing and sex and makes it more cringe tbh.
Vivzie can never use cursing or sex in a creative or well timed way. It's just shoved in for pure shock value but looses it's edge after the 4345th time the characters say "frick".
>but adds aggressive cursing and sex and makes it more cringe tbh.
I'm not a castrated zoomer so I don't have this problem where seeing sex and hearing swear words makes me cry. It's crass, sure, but so what. So much animation is overly sanitized for babies. If the only way we get away from that drivel is to swing hard in the opposite direction and make overly vulgar stuff then so be it.
yes Rick and Morty and Sausage Party are shining examples of what animation should strive to accomplish because the characters say the frick word a bunch
Rick & Morty isn't bad because it has swearing and violence, it's bad because its humor became too self-referential and up its own ass, and overly preachy to boot. Literally nobody had a problem with R&M's scatalogical humor in season 1. Well maybe prudes like you did, but Cinemaphile liked season 1 just fine in general.
As for Sausage Party, it has loads of problems besides the fact that its crass and sweary, but apparently these don't matter to you because hearing somebody say frick gives you a panic attack.
>Literally nobody had a problem with R&M's scatalogical humor in season 1.
Neither did I, but the crassness doesn't automatically make the show funny, you were the one claiming that cartoons without an expletive in every sentence was too "sanitized". The funniest jokes in R&M aren't the lowbrow shit jokes imo
>Well maybe prudes like you did
>because hearing somebody say frick gives you a panic attack.
LMAO b***h I've watched Drawn Together, South Park and Superjail and loved all of those. Maybe your show just sucks ass? Perhaps that's something to consider.
>, you were the one claiming that cartoons without an expletive in every sentence was too "sanitized".
No, in point of fact I didn't say that. You simply fail at reading. Shall I quote what I said to you?
>If the only way we get away from that drivel is to swing hard in the opposite direction and make overly vulgar stuff then so be it.
If what you got out of this is that "crass = top shelf humor" then kindly stop replying to me because you're too stupid to have a conversation with.
moron, your first reply was to somehow misinterpret "this has too much unnecessary swearing that adds nothing of value" as "ur a babby that cries when he hears the naughty word". Frick off you hypocritical shit.
it was pretty cool how yellow rock would shoot around like sonic the hedgehog in that battle
And they STILL fricked it up, real bad, anybody has the webm version that has both scenes back to back? Look at how the floor is animated in both and point whats wrong, cmon i challenge you!
Most of the western animation industry scooped up a ton of total amateurs who have only ever worked on projects helmed by other total amateurs. People who are self-taught tumblr-famous artists with a passing interest in animation. They might understand the vague gist of how cartoons get made, but they're the kind of people who "studied art" so they could get a job drawing their OCs and shipping art, not because they truly wanted to work hard in the animation industry.
At the same time, colleges got so lax over the last 30 years, like a near vertical drop in quality and standards, that a lot of these homosexuals were able to schmooze and network their way into animation industry jobs with a sub-remedial understanding of the fundamentals of animation. They'd never admit it, because it would mean having to vacate their prestigious jobs as real deal big shot industry artists, but they were put into positions they aren't even remotely qualified for and their only hope of fixing that is getting promoted to a position where they just have to oversee and delegate work to other people, instead of actually knowing what the frick they're doing.
the only time western animation does anything decent now is when it tries to be anime, which usually just makes it look like a mediocre anime.
>DBKai
Bro, post the Dragonbox version of this scene
its just an example of the kind of shit they try to emulate, I could post dogshit anime animation too if I had more webm examples.
Remember this?
western animation could never
It truly is staggering how many details, motions and where anything is changes between camera shots.
Did you notice the metal & glass hole had wood falling down from it, after it was shown to be no longer breaking?
What happened to the guy at 0:48?
I cannot believe it WASN'T mean as a deliberate parody of Lupin car physics
Why?
>when it tries to be anime
am i in the wrong for not liking tmnt rise for trying to hard to be like it instead of doing its own spin on tnmt? without thinking of black april anyway
anyone got this webm without the interpolated frames?
This was the smoothest looking clip of that ive ever seen but sonething felt so unnatural about it i cant put my finger on.
>sonething felt so unnatural about it i cant put my finger on.
perhaps the interpolation that was complained about?
it's because of the interpolated frames, I have one without it but it's got audio.
Isnt that the song Undertale hijacked and is now more known as the sans song than a SU song?
>twitter screencap
>also stealth east vs west thread
>200+ replies
sounds about right
Because they don't know what cool is. Instead of trying to make things that appealed to an audience the creators are trying to appeal to their own homosexual interests.
pls animate on ones without cgi, it worked for me and it will work for you.
>name
frick off
Yeah, he's the schizo on /misc/.
twos are plenty
this is incorrect.
ok moron spend 30 years on a single project insisting that you animate it all on ones only for it to massively flop on it's ass, that's not psychotic at all
It feels like we've went from adults making shows to appeal to kids who wanted to be cool heroes to shows about younger adults making shows about babies because they're scared of getting older.
It goes deeper than that, allot of creators today are extremely derivative because they're all terminally online shut ins copying what others have down, without having the real life experiences an original creator imbued into the work. As times goes on each new batch of artists are inspired by the previous group hacks, while a bunch of unqualified individuals get promoted to leadership positions by sheer value of not aging out/burning out of the industry.
too many creators make cartoons based off other cartoons. sampling, as peter chung calls it.
its not like these creators don't have personal experiences to draw from. its that they dont trust their experiences. their judgments are too mediated by shit like the algorithm and online voting/likes that creates false consensuses. it takes some isolationism and trust in your own work.
im not sure if its possible to also create work too prematurely. like some 23 year old kid getting their first show made instead of maturing a bit and then taking a stab at it
Scooby > all your anime and cartoons
Based. Those mid 2010 Scooby movies had good animation.
My homie
twitter screencap thread #3625
now post his other tweets
no we don't wanna see your other tweets gay, backpedalling after you got ratio'd and btfo
those are not mine dumbass check the screenshots again
yeah cool, you use an alt to follow yourself, so what, nobody cares
you're the only one that cares idiot also not an alt
I'll say it again, there isn't a lack of talent in the west, they're just elsewhere or stuck with bad directors. There's this guy, Vincent Chansard, who's probably one of the best in the industry atm and he does it with the best of the Japs in spite of being french (and pic attached is a guy from NZ I believe?)
he's right, though. the only recent examples (last 5 years) of western animation in TV format that are really worth looking at are either by Genndy, the French, and maybe pieces of the Rise of TMNT show, which even then leans way too much into nu-sakuga style animation that is borderline impossible to follow
Last good animated cartoon
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Steven Universe is concentrated anti-cool to most kids. It was like this when it was new too. It's like theater kid shit mixed with boomer anime references, and mental health anecdotes they probably hear enough from their shrinks. Genuinely cringe worthy shit.
Steven Universe is Scott Pilgrim trying to be a good person after being gaslit to hell and back by the nepobaby gang. I mean he did frick and fight everyone around him, but that doesn't count.
I did try to make it more shonen-like in the last season and you can see how well that went.
>I did try to make it more shonen-like in the last season
...Ian JQ? Is that you?
I mean the guy's come here before, hell a lot of CN staff from that era popped in here for drawing reqs and such.
>I did try to make it more shonen-like in the last season and you can see how well that went.
The only thing I remember about SU is that time /b/ and /misc/ raided them with white raceswaps, and they had a meltdown.
even if they could, it will never happen because nothing looks good with beanmouth. take the most rad cartoon or anime scenes you can think of off the top of your head. imagine them as beanmouth and they won't be cool. just facts.
>Furry
Tracks
>twitter thread
>furry
you guys should actually be ashamed of yourselves 334 replies to this
this is literally Cinemaphile's daily routine, this is not news.
nobody in this thread is japanese
You know I just realized that Japan has never made a musical anime
Why can't Japan make musicals?
I honestly doubt that's true. I know they don't do it often, but I refuse to believe that they've never made a single one.
I seen a lot of animes, plenty of team feature music because it's about a band, idol groups, artists or a school club
But not a single musical, the closet I can think of might be space dandy but that was just for one episode.
That's like asking why western cartoons have never made Noh theater.
I remember 2 sol comedy anime that did for 1 scene played for laughs but I had to think hard on them as I forgot their names(god I'm getting old). Kiniro Mosaic did it in the final episode, I can't remember if its was first or 2nd season. Everyone suddenly became pirates and starting singing. Was really random but funny.
For the other anime, surely you haven't forgotten I am Boss's anime Minami-ke right? That scene with the younger sister going grocery shopping and running into her older sister's classmate where both broke out into a song number.
There's the 1974 adaptation of Jack and the Beanstalk, if you're interested.
music in anime is usually used as a way to promote artists under some label property of the producers (see chainsawman with it's 12 endings) so the studio has almos 0 control of it to make something more complex like a musical at most they do insert songs, musical adaptations in teather for popular anime works in the other hand is actually kinda of common , so they can do it is just not something that benefits their bussines model
It's more just that musicals in general are a western thing.
And also, generally speaking only white people like musicals.
Can't blame them, honestly.
Time constraints, budget, target audience, and the network television industry.
Why is it that any twitter user with a Palestinian always has the worst imaginable opinions?
Americans are corrupt. End of story.
>Every song
>Make something cool
>Steven Universe
Steven Universe has a handful of cool moments that people cling to and somehow forget that 80% of the show is fricking horrible. To be fair, when SU is good, it's great, but frick me if it was few and far between.
why can't modern Cinemaphile posters post anything without involving twitter screencaps
>thread's approaching bump limit
Because, evidentially, that's what gets them the (You)s
>Why can't modern animators create cool scenes?
we can, but we left the industry because its no longer a good career.
>ITT: SU vs. Hazbin vs. Arcane bullshit
All are terrible, and I am not transgender
/thread
first sane post in this thread and it only took about 430+ replies