Rambo: Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job *parking cars*!
Yeah that's why rich CEOs kill themselves when they lose everything
I saw a black guy through the drive thru window, working in the kitchen. Haven't been back to that McDonalds since. Shame, since its my local. This is in Melbourne Australia btw.
You ever downgrade your career?
(rhetorical question, hopefully you haven't)
I have. Going from bad-ass jobs with crazy responsibility to working in a random warehouse or some shitty diner kitchen is murder on your psyche, and difficult to stick around long.
>Send a man to Hell and expect him to come back in one piece. Isn't OP's innocence great?
is marrying amy schumer hell? i don't think you can come back from that
Exactly. Rambo could have become a heavy diesel mechanic and lift tank tracks by hand in the field then have gay top sex with the newbie in the bathroom until 65 years old. I'd let him frick me
Did he quit? The military does just dump people out on their asses all the time. I could see them downsizing after the war and Rambo didn't make the cut to stay in (At least as his MOS).
Ok, we get why Teasle didn't like Rambo since he was a Korean War veteran, but why did the other cops abuse Rambo? Aren't these small town guys supposed to be friendly?
Movie Galt is explicitely a sadistic piece of shit who likes to abuse his power in any petty way he can, add tot that small town syndrome + Teasle being his buddy who has his back covered, finally the other cops either don't care or are cowed into submission.
IIRC he's nowhere as bad in the novel.
It's hard to return to a normal life after experiencing the insane highs and lows of combat. Routine events don't seem important to you anymore. Imagine having a boss b***h at you because you broke a dish in a restaurant after you've seen your closest friends get their heads blown off next to you. It would be hard to even make sense of it.
he's still right though, the ptsd wasn't the same for WW2 vets. even if we go beyond the "man up" narratives, they just weren't. maybe WW1 but not again on the same homosexual type of symptoms.
even worse are the gays who went to Afghanistan. basically barely any combat yet they have more symptoms and homelessness than WW2 or even ww1 vets ever had
It's hard to return to a normal life after experiencing the insane highs and lows of combat. Routine events don't seem important to you anymore. Imagine having a boss b***h at you because you broke a dish in a restaurant after you've seen your closest friends get their heads blown off next to you. It would be hard to even make sense of it.
To be fair, surviving WWII vets came back to a booming economy, were hailed as heroes and easily found good jobs. Nam vets came back to a major recession and oil crisis.
Not to equate myself to fictional events, but I grew up in a cartel cell and what says is right. The banality of life is unsustainable because It cannot exist in a vacuum. Too many parts are luxury. I know my experiences are not exact, but the principles are the same. There's too much error in society. We don't account for the worst that does exist, instead pretending humanity is better than it. We're not.
Call it how you want, but only a fool would look at the world today and not see how much worse the drug problem is than twenty years ago. There's a reason for that, smartass.
mental illness
even if you dont see combat you will come out mentally ill, theres something about the military that breaks men's brains and makes them unable to be normal ever again
it's the comradery. it's like being separated from a family. i know guys who went to europe and the middle east and they're still the same when they get out. doesn't matter what campaign, or how much action they get. they lose their sense of belonging. like they were a part of something bigger than them, and now they're ejected, they wish they could still be part of it.
It's an incredible thing to experience.
frick suicide anon. you're giving everyone who doubted the excuses to tel themselves there's nothing they could've done to help. prove them wrong. that's the best satisfaction.
frick suicide anon. you're giving everyone who doubted the excuses to tel themselves there's nothing they could've done to help. prove them wrong. that's the best satisfaction.
like why would you hurt yourself to prove a point to someone else? seems weak. talk to someone you trust.
Green beret can just live of pension and get benefits for pretty much every medal he got awarded. He probably has medal of honor and gets like $1,5k every months. Movie or a book was written by some hippie who thinks people are fighting in a war for free.
He said and demonstrated at the end of the movie.
Responds badly to threats, which is a trait of bad managers and a feature of working in low level service jobs where you interact with the public on the reg.
Nobody at that time wanted to discuss the war or it's effects on the soldiers (many of whom were drafted btw), so anyone with "friend's blood and guts splattered all over me" real PTSD had to just suck it up. You saw it with the wife of his squad mate at the beginning. She just didn't want to talk. She'd suffered her husband being eaten up by cancer (agent orange) and was just done with it.
Trautman says he was looking for a trigger also. When the local ex-footballer sheriffs start playing schoolyard bully shit on him, he had what he was looking for. Aggressive, trained, bullies*. Not just some schmo who looked at a hobo the wrong way on the wrong street corner on the wrong day. Even better when the Nation Guard turns up, even though we see they're not really the real army he's looking to clash with, so he goes seeking the Sheriff again. The one authority figure who's at least somewhat of an "honorable" target for a guy as highly skilled as Rambo. And along the way he plays out the tactics on the small town that he was trained to use on foreign soil (hit the fuel and ammo stores, take out the local security forces).
*That's why he focuses on the "First Blood" aspect, which Trautman rightly sees through as a rationalization.
He couldn't hold a job, because he was already looking to explode and he didn't like the idea that he might explode on some regular schlub at the car wash or whatever. He'd shame the memory his old squad mates if he did that. Because as he tells it, they were always talking about getting home and taking it easy and driving the one guy's convertible around.
Lol, the majority of draftees didn't see combat at all. My grandfather and all the old timers I know that were conscripted ended up in Kentucky or Arizona running equipment or just plain logistics.
Nothing fulfills him. All the jobs that would hire him are menial shit, work for wetbacks. He's not a wetback, he's fricking rambo. He should be setting up explosives, sneaking somewhere and tapping phone lines. He wants to do something meaningful for his country without risking his life or getting treated like shit.
some people have no social skills and severe anxiety
i have a brother who is literally him and he is like built he is built and big
can do a lot of stuff but cant deal with people or markets
I know it's hard to believe compared today.... but Vietnam veterans back then were treated badly by companies and public. They were looked at with disdain.
The Vietnam War was the first war where laws were changed to allow the media to criticize the government. So the media went painting America in a bad light. There were tons of anti-war protests.
Returning Vietnam soldiers were spat upon by everyone.
-Lefties hated war and hated Veterans
-Conservative Righties hated Vietnam vets for LOSING the war and shaming America.
Why were the films that followed so bad?
But the real answer to the he couldn't hold a job is actually explained in Rocky 2. Rambo probably wasn't even high school educated, so that puts all white collar jobs out of reach. Any other blue collar jobs would be too boring for him.
His best bet would have been to join the army back or get into a professional sport, which he never did for unknown reasons
Imagine this insane animal parking your car and having some weird flashback panic attack and next thing you know he's driving down sidewalks while screaming at Charlie.
I wouldn't want this guy parking my car either.
Rambo: Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job *parking cars*!
Yeah that's why rich CEOs kill themselves when they lose everything
A fricking Black person can work at Mcdonalds
No they can't you moron
Where do Black folk work?
Cashing welfare checks and selling drugs.
I saw a black guy through the drive thru window, working in the kitchen. Haven't been back to that McDonalds since. Shame, since its my local. This is in Melbourne Australia btw.
You ever downgrade your career?
(rhetorical question, hopefully you haven't)
I have. Going from bad-ass jobs with crazy responsibility to working in a random warehouse or some shitty diner kitchen is murder on your psyche, and difficult to stick around long.
What said basically.
Millions of men did it after the second world war.
I'm trying.
This gave me seizures
>ywn get a seizure boner while watching Demolition Man
JUST
PTSD
Nam vets were crazy. You had to be there
No they aren't
I was in Da Nang in 2023, it didn't seem too bad apart from the traffic. Crossing a road was scary
nah
the supposed "Vietnam vet" crime issues were just a cover up for the inevitable consequences of the civil rights act
Built for bbc
Every entry level job required 4 years of experience.
Just be a prostitute
i'd rather destroy
You can destroy society with an Onlyfans
I have no experience
after your first day you will. Male prostitute for 3 years early 2000's here $160 an hour
That just makes you more desirable fresh meat
no hope for the future. when you see the worst that people can devolve to, it's hard to see the good in anyone.
Overqualified. As a green beret he could drive tanks and fly gunships for some reason. Employers would realize he was too good at the job.
>in world lore is that he served a 4 year stint
He was the fastest learner in the history of the army, that John Rambo
Classic MacGruber
Stallone's Dredd got the look right, but Karl Urban's Dredd got the feel right.
I am literally John Rambo
Send a man to Hell and expect him to come back in one piece. Isn't OP's innocence great?
>Send a man to Hell and expect him to come back in one piece. Isn't OP's innocence great?
is marrying amy schumer hell? i don't think you can come back from that
He was a professional soldier. They even said he was half German/half Apache or some shit. The movie shoves the concept down your throat.
>professional soldier
>can't learn to be a problem solver
Then he should have never quit. Why do these pussies work for 4 years and think it's over? Stay in the military until you retire.
Exactly. Rambo could have become a heavy diesel mechanic and lift tank tracks by hand in the field then have gay top sex with the newbie in the bathroom until 65 years old. I'd let him frick me
>have gay top sex
Stop projecting your fantasies.
Rambo aint no bottom homosexual anon
He has intense bottom energy.
Did he quit? The military does just dump people out on their asses all the time. I could see them downsizing after the war and Rambo didn't make the cut to stay in (At least as his MOS).
Septon Meribald speech on 'broken men'
>https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1cow9d/spoilers_affc_septon_meribalds_speech_on_war_and/
>inb4 reddit
>People insist that A Feast for Crows is the worst book
>I'm an expert at killing random people because Israel ordered me to do so! I should be a millionaire
Why are welfare queenies so stupid?
he looks like trouble.
POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER!
He could have if he applied at the US Post Office, a place tailor made to employ crazy vets, especially in the 80's.
he was on his way there, but walking takes a while
huh
my dad worked in the post office in miami for a bit, but i think he might've been running drugs too. he was in nam at the tail end
You need a medical license to kill babies as a career.
good scene
Most government jobs have veterans preference for hiring so he literally figuratively had no excuse.
Boomers didn't want to work because they were lazy whiners. The Greatest Generation went to war and came home to work and build the greatest nation.
thread theme
YOU WEREN'T THERE MAN
Ok, we get why Teasle didn't like Rambo since he was a Korean War veteran, but why did the other cops abuse Rambo? Aren't these small town guys supposed to be friendly?
>Aren't these small town guys supposed to be friendly?
LOL no
The Chad Korean vet vs the virgin whiny Vietnam vet
Movie Galt is explicitely a sadistic piece of shit who likes to abuse his power in any petty way he can, add tot that small town syndrome + Teasle being his buddy who has his back covered, finally the other cops either don't care or are cowed into submission.
IIRC he's nowhere as bad in the novel.
It's hard to return to a normal life after experiencing the insane highs and lows of combat. Routine events don't seem important to you anymore. Imagine having a boss b***h at you because you broke a dish in a restaurant after you've seen your closest friends get their heads blown off next to you. It would be hard to even make sense of it.
Do you still talk with your old friends? Or people you served with? You gotta do it man.
Why don't you just stop breaking dishes?
Every vet in every war in history did it just fine until the whiny entitled Boomers.
and you claim to speak for every veteran ever? you realize you have to be 18 to post here.
he's still right though, the ptsd wasn't the same for WW2 vets. even if we go beyond the "man up" narratives, they just weren't. maybe WW1 but not again on the same homosexual type of symptoms.
even worse are the gays who went to Afghanistan. basically barely any combat yet they have more symptoms and homelessness than WW2 or even ww1 vets ever had
To be fair, surviving WWII vets came back to a booming economy, were hailed as heroes and easily found good jobs. Nam vets came back to a major recession and oil crisis.
My grandfather rode that gravy train as hard as possible it was an insane time to be alive.
and they were also called terrible things. activists man...
it's fricked. and what makes it more fricked is veterans of ww1 used to joke about how 'that was war, this is home'
we've always been this way.
>moron doesn't even know about the Lost Generation
Yeah all those WWI vets were fine
Not to equate myself to fictional events, but I grew up in a cartel cell and what says is right. The banality of life is unsustainable because It cannot exist in a vacuum. Too many parts are luxury. I know my experiences are not exact, but the principles are the same. There's too much error in society. We don't account for the worst that does exist, instead pretending humanity is better than it. We're not.
Sure you did champ, the burguers cartel im guessing right? Holding the McDonald 's plaza against Burger king nueva generacion
Call it how you want, but only a fool would look at the world today and not see how much worse the drug problem is than twenty years ago. There's a reason for that, smartass.
I lol'd
you grew up inside cell?
An Incel?
too dumb
did we watch the same movie?
the goose will be rambo in the innevitable reboot bros. thoughts?
mental illness
even if you dont see combat you will come out mentally ill, theres something about the military that breaks men's brains and makes them unable to be normal ever again
it's the comradery. it's like being separated from a family. i know guys who went to europe and the middle east and they're still the same when they get out. doesn't matter what campaign, or how much action they get. they lose their sense of belonging. like they were a part of something bigger than them, and now they're ejected, they wish they could still be part of it.
It's an incredible thing to experience.
Yep, Rambo just wanted to see his buddies again and they were all dead
never joined but i'm there for all my frens who have
I've spent half my life in a different country and feel exactly like this. Been extremely depressed and suicidal ever since I came back last year.
frick suicide anon. you're giving everyone who doubted the excuses to tel themselves there's nothing they could've done to help. prove them wrong. that's the best satisfaction.
like why would you hurt yourself to prove a point to someone else? seems weak. talk to someone you trust.
comradery
>lol wut
not my fault you're propagandized
if he just learned to code, none of this would have happened
>This way, men!
>That sonuvab***h was loitering!
>CANT EVEN HOLD A JOB PAKKIN KAHHHH
Not sure what job that even is honestly
he could've become a cop in some shit town just like teasle.
Green beret can just live of pension and get benefits for pretty much every medal he got awarded. He probably has medal of honor and gets like $1,5k every months. Movie or a book was written by some hippie who thinks people are fighting in a war for free.
Not if he didn't retire or have disability, but based on his scars and PTS he probably was getting a check of some kind every month.
They drew first blood
They wouldn't let him just work the whole day and go home early they made him stay and use his lunch. For what purpose!
because he always sees the Cinemaphile LGBTXSRE+* ad
sad
Too busy murdering cops and strangers who were willing to give him a lift
Normies don't hire autistics.
You're not autistic just ugly
He said and demonstrated at the end of the movie.
Responds badly to threats, which is a trait of bad managers and a feature of working in low level service jobs where you interact with the public on the reg.
Nobody at that time wanted to discuss the war or it's effects on the soldiers (many of whom were drafted btw), so anyone with "friend's blood and guts splattered all over me" real PTSD had to just suck it up. You saw it with the wife of his squad mate at the beginning. She just didn't want to talk. She'd suffered her husband being eaten up by cancer (agent orange) and was just done with it.
Trautman says he was looking for a trigger also. When the local ex-footballer sheriffs start playing schoolyard bully shit on him, he had what he was looking for. Aggressive, trained, bullies*. Not just some schmo who looked at a hobo the wrong way on the wrong street corner on the wrong day. Even better when the Nation Guard turns up, even though we see they're not really the real army he's looking to clash with, so he goes seeking the Sheriff again. The one authority figure who's at least somewhat of an "honorable" target for a guy as highly skilled as Rambo. And along the way he plays out the tactics on the small town that he was trained to use on foreign soil (hit the fuel and ammo stores, take out the local security forces).
*That's why he focuses on the "First Blood" aspect, which Trautman rightly sees through as a rationalization.
He couldn't hold a job, because he was already looking to explode and he didn't like the idea that he might explode on some regular schlub at the car wash or whatever. He'd shame the memory his old squad mates if he did that. Because as he tells it, they were always talking about getting home and taking it easy and driving the one guy's convertible around.
Lol, the majority of draftees didn't see combat at all. My grandfather and all the old timers I know that were conscripted ended up in Kentucky or Arizona running equipment or just plain logistics.
Nothing fulfills him. All the jobs that would hire him are menial shit, work for wetbacks. He's not a wetback, he's fricking rambo. He should be setting up explosives, sneaking somewhere and tapping phone lines. He wants to do something meaningful for his country without risking his life or getting treated like shit.
>Nothing fulfills him
Rambo is literally me bros
He was a criminal scumbag. "Soldiers" are just gangmembers
Why was this mf resisting arrest?
Arrest for what? Walking?
Vagrancy.
Did he not have a copper penny? That's the law to prove your not a vagrant
some people have no social skills and severe anxiety
i have a brother who is literally him and he is like built he is built and big
can do a lot of stuff but cant deal with people or markets
The man was holding him down
after vietnam alot of busniesses saw former vets as nutcases and vagrants. after the war was heavily protested.
I know it's hard to believe compared today.... but Vietnam veterans back then were treated badly by companies and public. They were looked at with disdain.
The Vietnam War was the first war where laws were changed to allow the media to criticize the government. So the media went painting America in a bad light. There were tons of anti-war protests.
Returning Vietnam soldiers were spat upon by everyone.
-Lefties hated war and hated Veterans
-Conservative Righties hated Vietnam vets for LOSING the war and shaming America.
It was bad.
Rambo is pro walkable cities
Cops are pro cars
cuz you don't just turn it off
Why were the films that followed so bad?
But the real answer to the he couldn't hold a job is actually explained in Rocky 2. Rambo probably wasn't even high school educated, so that puts all white collar jobs out of reach. Any other blue collar jobs would be too boring for him.
His best bet would have been to join the army back or get into a professional sport, which he never did for unknown reasons
First blood is a book. First blood has a story to tell, the rest are special effects.
Imagine this insane animal parking your car and having some weird flashback panic attack and next thing you know he's driving down sidewalks while screaming at Charlie.
his hands were a little dirty
>literally killed babies
>goes insane when someone calls him a "baby killer" at the airport
Why were vietnam vets like this?
They all should have been left behind.
Because if some customer started sassing him, he'd have one of those Nam flashbacks and pluck out the poor guy's eyeballs.
Vietnam vet was my neighbor once. He said his trigger for PTSD was the smell of freshly cut grass.
Black women took his jobs
Because
Because they drew first blood
Why you pushing me?