Why DC is in shambles right now.

Warner is in talks to shut down the publishing division of DC.

Jim Lee is on his way out, he's currently searching for alternative positions unrelated to comics

Their executive editor left because the writing was on the wall.

The pumping out of multiple events is a panic move to boost sales however this isn't working.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised American comics haven't become figital-only by now tbh senpai

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the direct market makes more money than digital.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what money?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The revenue that subsidizes their digital comics, trade releases and loss leading diversity titles.
          I accept your concession

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what money?

            RIP BOZO #PACKWATCH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are far too many moronic 50+ yo "collectors" who think buying number 1s and alt covers is an investment.

      What they should do is making alt covers for ALL their comics every other month.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get w
    Go b

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >warner is a "warning"
      >can't spell broke without bro
      Holy shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get wiener? Go bisexual? Is that you Tim? Jon? Alan?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >two more weeks trust the plan

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    RIP BOZO #PACKWATCH

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They fricked up with the New52 and never recovered
    >But muh sales
    A temporary boost that lead to long term damage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this anon is right, new52 was the final nail, then they give us Rebirth with hope, but only 16 months later didio, bendis, taylor and tynion killed DC.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Rebirth was damage control but at the same time, it was them undoing an event with a new event. I'm not even well versed in the situation but I understand that cancelling all your ongoing books and rebranding is bad in the long term.

        That's why we have the manga meme. Too many Batman vol 1s.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is autism. The only problem with rebirth was not ripping the bandaid off and officially relegating the entire new 52 to an Alt U. Metal represented Didio and Lee not wanting to let it go and then they dragged all of rebirth down.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can't put the genie back in the bottle anon. Even if they made a "Bronze Age" universe alongside the New52, things would still be broken.

            Now things are so silly, many don't understand we're in the "5G" era.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Even if they made a "Bronze Age" universe alongside the New52
              Real easy fix. No more shit that even references the new 52.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they not just do it like Marvel and have Ultimate and 616 at the same time

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they thought fresh slate would bring even more newcomers, what people at DC didnt know normalgay cant keep up with 52 comic run on the get go instead going simple route like marvel rn with 4 ongoing this year for their new ultimate universe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        DiDio basically took the post-Brightest Day reshuffle and tacked on a full reboot onto it to get new readers into comics. Bear in mind comics NEVER have marketing but the New 52 was actually mentioned in some mainstream newspapers. Half its content was already planned:
        >Aquaman and other White Lanterns from the series were planned to have series. (Animal Man was originally a White Lantern.)
        >Swamp Thing and Constantine both turned up during the event at the end and in another series to show Vertigo properly merged with the main universe.
        >Snyder's Batman story was a Dickbats story that was changed for the worse into a Bruce story. (Talons were connected to the Flying Graysons, the villain was like a mentor figure, Court of Owls waited until Batman was out of the way.)
        >Batman Inc by Morrison, Green Lantern by Geoff Johns, Batwoman and others were continuations.
        But the other half that wasn't already planned:
        >Then a bunch of other shit was essentially rushed out with no communication, Action Comics and Superman had no real conversation between creative teams.
        >Many series were put out there to die to get to the number of titles up.
        DiDio acts like a martyr for trying but essentially half the stories were modified and planned and the other half were rushed out.
        >DiDio got rid of a bunch of side characters that he hated like Stephanie Brown.
        >Characters were merged together so Alan Scott became gay when previously his son had been.
        >Stupid editorial shit like Batwoman can't get married completely destroy that books run.
        >Series people still like such as the Wonder Woman one felt completely unconnected to the character in other books and teams couldn't communicate during development.
        >"Everything happened in 5 years" bullshit meant that all previous continuity was reduced to 5 years, hence why Batman Year 0 arc had a No Man's Land style situation with Riddler all stuffed in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, the New 52 should have never happened and was a last ditch effort by DiDio and other higher ups to stop themselves from getting shitcanned that in the end made things worse. They were only in that situation, though, because the decisions that DiDio made over the previous decade and especially the preceding two or three years drove fans away. Hiring DiDio basically set DC on the path that led them to the sorry state they're now in.

          Don't forget the entire thing started as a reboot for the Superman titles specifically, which were faltering horrendously after New Krypton. Then, when they realized changing Superman so drastically meant changing the entire DC Universe, they said frick it and made it a line-wide reboot. Johns' Justice League was originally a present-day story about a new gathering of the team, not their first meeting, until it was retrofitted into an origin story.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jim Lee and Diane Nelson killed DC comics the same way Bob Iger, Joe Quesada and Alex Alonso killed Marvel, and when Johns tried to save DC. they moved mountains to fire him.
      Now Ghost machine will be a success.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Jim Lee
        Are you saying Jim Lee conspired to kill DC after his Wildstorm Universe went belly up? Interesting comic, would read.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          New52 was his and Diane's baby with harras and didio adopting it anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Johns
        >saving DC

        The absolute fricking delusion of this board

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Johns had his flaws but his era of dc is 100% better then what we have now.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thats either the Johns fans or Johns himself!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      New 52 only happened because sales had gone down. In essence, it goes back to hiring DiDio.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So you're saying the Bronze Age was waning and the New52 was a necessary thing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Bronze Age
          That ended in 1986, sadly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So what do we call the post-Crisis era? Calling it the "Modern" era makes no sense. The Dark age is somewhat right.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Dark Age is often applied to the late 80s and 90s. As far as I know Modern Age does refer generally to the post-Crisis era and the 2000s specifically.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So then
                >Golden
                >Silver
                >Bronze
                >Modern/Dark
                >New52
                >5G

                This 5G era, has it had anything outstanding? At least the New52 had...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, the New 52 should have never happened and was a last ditch effort by DiDio and other higher ups to stop themselves from getting shitcanned that in the end made things worse. They were only in that situation, though, because the decisions that DiDio made over the previous decade and especially the preceding two or three years drove fans away. Hiring DiDio basically set DC on the path that led them to the sorry state they're now in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If the reboot was good, New 52 could've been a massive boon to DC and the industry. The idea of a sleek and modern DCU wasn't inherently bad. They just... fricked it up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If true, I don't understand why a complete shutdown is coming before a sacking from top to bottom first. Publishing is not a complicated thing, nor is there a dearth of talented and experienced people willing to step in. The unwillingness to address fan and retail concerns and course correct is baffling.
    Unless of course they are rebuilding a new publishing division to replace this one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      America is falling apart all over. It's not just comics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and they only have themselves to blame they did this to themselves frick em

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          test

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because DC's parent company Warner Bros Discovery has massive financial problems and needs to cut dead weight quickly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm aware. It just begs the question why they didn't bother trying to fix DC after their supposed review last year. This downward trend isn't new.
        It seems everywhere I look in pop culture media, the people responsible for failure all proudly proclaim their desire to burn entire industries down before they "work with the chuds." So this scorched earth result is exactly what they want. It's just inexplicable for the parent company to go along with it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Get woke, go broke

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You'd look like less of a moron if you weren't crying about 'woke' ultracapitalist executives who only care about getting their money.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cope seethe and whine more. It doesn't matter if they truly believe in the cult of woke or not- they still went woke, and their company went broke. The executives and board members of course still get paid their huge salaries+ bonus ESG money.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          WBD stockholders don't care about DC Comics the publisher. They care about the movie and TV studios and that's it. That's why DC was consistently worse than Marvel until the Disney buyout. If it's making a net loss, but not by much, it's continued existence is justified by the movies. Now that the movies are tanking and the publishing loss is getting bigger, they'd rather just axe it than bother devoting resources to fixing it. It's a real shame. DC and Marvel would both be in much better hands either privately owned or as their own corporations, with no parent company subsidies allowing them to churn out increasingly shittier slop with no immediate reprecussions.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            DC Comics doesn't make money.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They care about merch like games, and flash and batman logo shirts and selling evergreen books like Watchmen and TDKR. They don't give a single shit about publishing new comics that make them no money.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Another problem, the more wokeshit they do in the comics like gay superman, or implying Batman had a bisexual romance with Ghostmaker, or making him a cucked b***h like he was in Tom King's run, the more it damages the brand long term internationally. It's wise to shut down the woke comics division before it does any more harm to the IP

            • 1 month ago
              LopiBats

              >does any more harm to the IP
              They need to get rid of these shitty comics immediately. They have to be the most backward ass brand damaging shit ever.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They need to make Superman gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Zaslav is the most pathetic human being to ever exist he managed to be worse than chapek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s arrogance and spite creating an inability to admit fault. Plus many in media, even the suits who should be only focused on money, truly think social issues are more important than the bottom line.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Weirdly enough, closing a struggling publisher doesn't assist with messaging or social issues but does help the bottom line as a quick and dirty savings. It's almost like you're trying to blame people you don't like for what your tasty boot providers are doing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This reply seems to be to the wrong post? Idk what any of what I said has to do with corporate boot licking…

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Put "social issues" in quotations, because their idea of "social issues" is be the secular version of Chick Tracts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Publishing is not a complicated thing

      lollll

      anyway to answer your question *if* this is what's happening

      because publishing is about building trust with retailers and audiences, a brand that they know they can rely on for stuff that's new enough to interest them but not so new it alienates them

      and DC hasn't been able to supply that to its increasingly elderly audience for some time now

      back around New 52 DC commissioned a study to find out *who* was buying their titles (because the direct market doesn't offer point of sale data because it's moronic) and the answer circa 2011 was "white males aged 45+ with 1-2 kids, a mortgage and a household income well above the national average"

      these are mostly people who'd been reading comics since the 1970s, when they were kids, had lots of disposable income, pride in collecting comic books etc

      but they weren't getting their kids reading them too and the market had become skewed toward older readers in the 80s-90s, so there were very few DC readers under 45 (these same people will be pushing 60 at best today)

      problem is older readers don't just die, they also develop health problems, retire and cut back on expensive hobbies, and just generally feel alienated

      DC probably lost a lot of older readers with all that edgy zombie crap from Blackest Night well before New 52, but the problem is those guys are the ones with the money to buy multiple titles (which is necessary to follow "the plot") every week and 16+ titles per month, younger people don't have 60-80 dollars to spend on entertainment each month and where they do, tend to spend it on things that offer better value in terms of time, rather than nostalgia (which they don't have because comics weren't for kids when they were kids)

      there's no publishing brand to rebuild; the audience is basically done over the next decade

      you could start over but that would effectively shut DC Comics down anyway because you'd be shitcanning bad titles left and right

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every other publisher in America has no problem selling books to their audience

        Maybe it really is a skill issue

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Every other publisher in America has no problem selling books to their audience
          DC outsells all of them still stop being moronic. Their “shambles” is being second two marvel or third to image. Stop talking about comics and go back to a cartoon thread tourist.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It absolutely is, and lets reframe this.

          They have SUPERMAN, BATMAN. WONDER WOMAN. ALL THE FRICKING WB cartoons, ALMOST all of the CN shit.

          And we're in the BIGGEST normie surge of superhero and nerd shit in mainstream movies ever.

          And they STILL can't sell books.

          That's not just a skill issue. That's a goddam skill fatality. A rectal prolapse like a bowel disruptor set on crack prostitute on rent day.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >a comment on why RT shut down.
            Oh boy does this sound like current DC.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This happens to all companies.

              Take Blizzard.

              - Wacraft I, II and III
              - Diablo I and II
              - Starcraft I and II
              - World of Warcraft, Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King

              That's were the good games ended.

              We've gotten no new installments in the Warcraft or Starcraft series.

              World of Warcraft got so bad that they had to release the classic games without the newer expansions because the new expansions sucked so much dick.

              They've releasad Warcraft III, turned out to be shit.

              They've releasad Diablo II, which is okay (it's literally a graphic overlay of the old game) with the exception for that you have to play it through their online client and can't use any mods.

              Diablo III, Diablo Immortal, and Diablo IV have been absolute trash fires.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >releasad
                re-released*

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hey don’t shit on Cata that shit was hype.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This happens to all companies.

              Take Blizzard.

              - Wacraft I, II and III
              - Diablo I and II
              - Starcraft I and II
              - World of Warcraft, Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King

              That's were the good games ended.

              We've gotten no new installments in the Warcraft or Starcraft series.

              World of Warcraft got so bad that they had to release the classic games without the newer expansions because the new expansions sucked so much dick.

              They've releasad Warcraft III, turned out to be shit.

              They've releasad Diablo II, which is okay (it's literally a graphic overlay of the old game) with the exception for that you have to play it through their online client and can't use any mods.

              Diablo III, Diablo Immortal, and Diablo IV have been absolute trash fires.

              All this and troons are still oblivious to why they're hated.
              Or maybe not, they've always loved causing misery to those not suffering from drugs and trauma daily

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they still managed to walk headfirst into the stupid durito thing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Magazines are a shell of their former selves from 20 years ago.
          USA Today is but a whimper now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I swear I've seen this post a few times now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          with the number of times I've seen
          >DC is over guys!!!
          threads, maybe you're right

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >DC is over guys!!!
            What threads?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              phew I don't know how many but recently for at least a month there have been multiple threads, all having a DC logo in the OP with a title like
              >is DC done
              >what's next for DC
              or the lines like that.
              if you can, just check an archives website, check the threads with a DC logo, they're literally consistent

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Genuine question why are you ITT? To talk shit? You really think they’re perfectly fine? You’d change nothing about their output? You don’t think they could be selling any better at all?

            Enough of the attention seeking homosexualry engage in some discussion or have a nice day.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              raaaaaaah
              go cry me a fricking river
              two more weeks amirite?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You didn’t even answer any of the questions I asked. Clearly you’re just ITT to troll.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                frick, meant for

                >To talk shit?
                no
                >You really think they’re perfectly fine?
                yes
                >You’d change nothing about their output?
                get (back )veteran creative teams and/or clout/"superstar" creative teams
                maybe think about a soft relaunch with said teams
                >You don’t think they could be selling any better at all?
                they could

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >To talk shit?
              no
              >You really think they’re perfectly fine?
              yes
              >You’d change nothing about their output?
              get (back )veteran creative teams and/or clout/"superstar" creative teams
              maybe think about a soft relaunch with said teams
              >You don’t think they could be selling any better at all?
              they could

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >get (back )veteran creative teams and/or clout/"superstar" creative teams
                Their solution would be bring back Gail Simone and Ron Marz. Plus they can’t afford the page rates.

                They’re better off getting cheap new talent that has no baggage and stories to tell.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no I'm not joking, i always get tipped off by the
            >back around New 52 DC commissioned a study to find out *who* was buying their titles

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >back around New 52 DC commissioned a study to find out *who* was buying their titles (because the direct market doesn't offer point of sale data because it's moronic) and the answer circa 2011 was "white males aged 45+ with 1-2 kids, a mortgage and a household income well above the national average"
        Source? As someone who shops at an LCS weekly, literally 52 times a year, I see mostly 30-40-something year old men. Certainly white and certainly straight. Those are the readers they’ve alienated. This is such an outdated view and sadly what the publishers think and operate on.

        You sound like that homosexual tim seeley he says this moronic shit all the time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i can't really think of anything since gotham academy ended that i bothered reading from them. they just suck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because DC's parent company Warner Bros Discovery has massive financial problems and needs to cut dead weight quickly.

      Wild ass speculation: Jettison the publishing division. Hand out a licence or licences to the highest bidder.

      Why did they not just do it like Marvel and have Ultimate and 616 at the same time

      Didn't they do this with earth 2? At least more than once?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Comic books, TV shows, movies, video games are all experiencing the same exact incompetency and creative issues. You just need to let it run its course and things will work out.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s really quite simple. Every editor they have hates their direct market readership. They hire writers who share this view. In conjunction they create comics out of spite many times specifically meant to piss off their traditional reader.

    Anyone disagreeing with me is wrong.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Were going to see lots of changes in the comming years that we thought were never going to happen a decade ago.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Source?
    Link?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it weird that nobody's provided any actual evidence?

      I'll only get worse.

      HL was garbage that had its sales propped up by normies who missed Rowling losing her fricking marbles and culture war dipshits who thought buying yet another crappy open-world snorefest would own the libs. After two months, nobody gave a damn until the game award shows didn't give it a nomination because even they have standards, then all the culture war frickwits threw a tantrum.

      Suicide Squad is just another live service shitshow. Rinse, repeat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        HL proved that all you needed to do was to make a somewhat okay game that the crazy leftists would hate to drive Streisand sales.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're not going to seriously suggest the award shows have anything to do with quality, are you? I think you're half right, but my takeaway is that the biggest troony boycott attempt ever, with software tools to identify and go after streamers who were playing HL amounted to really not that much. I'm not so sure if people at large either had no problem with Rowling, or just didn't hear about her. I suspect it may be both.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        owning the libs is based

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking the game awards are worth shit

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because over the last ten years they’ve allowed Tom Taylor, Tom king, mark Russell, Brian Michael Bendis, James tynion, Scott Snyder, Kelly sue deconnick, g willow wilson, tini Howard, chip Zdarsky, Tim Sheridan, tim seeley, Kelly Thompson (if she even exists), Jody Houser, Josie Campbell, Mariko tamaki and every other deranged perpetually online loser to run their company into the ground while people like Ben Abernathy, Paul kaminski and Katie kubert allowed them too and egged them on.

    Every name I mentioned should be blacklisted from the company. Hire cheap new talent who don’t care about their ego or “legacy” and only want to deliver solid, EPISODIC, single issue comics for the type of customer that shops WEEKLY at an LCS. Focus on making the chuds happy. It really is that simple.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They can't afford to hire true talent. Too expensive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I said, specifically:
        >Hire cheap new talent
        Learn to fricking read moron.

        for me its simple just stop pandering to lgbthiv+ and manchild who cant let go character status quo

        >manchild who cant let go character status quo
        They’re the people who buy the comics. They need to pander to them. It’s really that simple. You homosexuals who read manga should have to parse through digital only releases with the LGBTQ people because none of you are ever going to buy floppies.

        >so let floppies die
        They are the single most profitable release format for the big 2
        >inb4 you post a list of kids books mostly dominated by pilkey and secondary release manga

        This is why I specially said
        >for the big 2

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Hire cheap new talent
          Which is the current problem with DC. Those people you listed are the cheap new talent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the people you named are cheap
            You’re moronic if you think this and none of the people I listed are “new”. They’re also getting premium page rates. Stop talking about comics you homosexual ass casual.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>inb4 you post a list of kids books mostly dominated by pilkey and secondary release manga
          im not that anon
          >They’re the people who buy the comics
          yes i get it old nerds the one who bought floppies no matter how shit the plot, but still i meant what i meant tired of spidey being butt of a joke basically 30 years old unemployed guy
          >inb4 i cant self insert spidey being married
          exactly see what new ultimate do making best of both worlds people who wants to see peter get married plus zoomers child gonna self insert as the kid who had spider-man as their dad instead of moron who sold his marriage to demon for wrinklyfrick aunt thats already on life support

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      for me its simple just stop pandering to lgbthiv+ and manchild who cant let go character status quo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Mark Russell
      >Tim Seeley
      What the frick did they do?
      Also imagine blaming all these people but not Dan Didio, Jim Lee, and Geoff Johns. You're a clown.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Youtubers told him they were bad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Go ahead and throw Gail Simone up there too. Be even more fair and put Frank Miller in that list. two people who had three good tries at bat and have just sucked ever since. If this was baseball they would be washed, benched, and canned. in that order.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gail Simone actually can write good stories if she tries, and she used to put a ton of cheesecake and fanservice in her comics before Batgirl of Burnside. She's a fat woke c**t but is capable when she puts in effort.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I feel like a bunch of those writers have 1-2 good stories but it really isn't enough

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More annoyed that DC is still alive. When will Warner kill them? They make shit.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been seeing this 'rumor' for years now, 2 more weeks right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been seeing this 'rumor' for years now
      I've only seen this rumor once and it was from an out context clickbait article.
      > 2 more weeks right?
      No it can take years for this to happen. No need to samegay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same.
      This is National Enquirer levels of trolling.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just reset the status quo back to 1985, right before COIE. You have the classic versions of the characters and you can build from there. If you want to introduce more modern characters you can do that, maybe in a better way. This solves all the problems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This solves all the problems.
      It won't be. The only way to fix this is to hire competent people, which won't happen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I agree. But I don’t want competent writers to waste time on the mess that is current DC. Give them something they can work with and go from there.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And hire good editors too. That’s also essential.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This would kill the company as quickly as a full reboot a la new 52 would. People want the pre flashpoint status quo with small additions like kid Jon and Damian. not the pre crisis.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You could introduce those characters if you wanted and avoid a lot of other shit. You just do an update of the Super-Sons and set it a few years in the future (ala Spider-Girl) and you can do anything you want since it’s a future story.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You just do an update of the Super-Sons and set it a few years in the future
          Nobody wants this. They want kid Jon and kid Damian as if they haven’t aged a day since the last issue of tomasi’s first super sons ongoing pre-Bendis. Nobody wanted “challenges of” or “adventures of” they want in continuity Super Sons retconning the entirety of Bendis (and no Taylor, PKJ and Williamson’s run). That would require DC admitting they fricked up. They refuse to do so because of spite and arrogance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Dick as Nightwing with the Teen Titans
      >Non-convoluted Legion continuity
      >Headband Supergirl
      >Everyone on the right Earth
      >No stupid changes to characters like Alan Scott
      >Earth-Two Superman still alive
      >Donna Troy origin that makes sense
      >Hawkman origin that makes sense

      I’m okay with this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        On the other fricking hand:

        Hal Jordan is depowered, Guy Gardner's brain dead, and we are stuck with John Stewart as GL

        Wally has cancer AIDS and Barry's fricked off to the future with a resurrected Iris leaving his new girlfriend Fionna in a mental institution after Barry explicitly drove her insane gaslighting her about not being Flash because, when facing trial for murdering Reverse Flash, he refused to unmask even though his entire motive for killing Reverse Flash was tied into Reverse Flash knowing who Barry was

        >>ALL character development for the Rogues are gone with Captain Cold in particular regressed to an evil thug who's character is defined by his ugliness and having a hot looking sister

        >>No Bane, no Spoiler, no Tim Drake, no Harley Quinn, no Azrael, no Batman Inc (and their characters character growth), no Cassandra Caine, no Court of Owls, no Batgirl (because Babs had retired by the time Crisis happened), no Damien, and Jason Todd is a "golly gee willickers!" ginger who dies his hair black and has a hot sexy albino super villainess trying to sexually groom him

        is pure cancer Silver Age: no marriage, no kid, no Ma and Pa Kent, Clark Kent being a mask Superman wears to get his masochistic jollies, Lois is a mentally ill sicko obsessed with marrying Superman because she won't have sex until she's married, Lex Luthor is a worthless mad scientist who makes Kite Man look like a bad ass, no Doomsday, Metallo is a guy in a green and orange fright suit, hell none of the shit from the Byrne reboot or JOSS that made people actually give a frick about Superman basically.

        >>No Suicide Squad

        >>No Sandman Mystery Theater or Starman or Johns JSA

        >>No O'Neil Question, no JLI with comedy duo Blue Beetle or Booster Gold, no Ice (just evil b***h Icemaiden), Fire has no personality except ethnic scrappy, no Rocket Red or G'Nort, or Martian Manhunter Oreo obsession or Max Lord.

        >>No post-Crisis Wonder Woman stuff

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no Batman Inc
          >no Damien
          good

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>>No post-Crisis Wonder Woman stuff
          Perez ruined Wonder Woman

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You’re right, Superman was much better pre-Crisis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You do get silver age Suicide Squad, and Starlin Starman. And a reprisal of Justice League Detroit, instead of JLI.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        On the other fricking hand:

        Hal Jordan is depowered, Guy Gardner's brain dead, and we are stuck with John Stewart as GL

        Wally has cancer AIDS and Barry's fricked off to the future with a resurrected Iris leaving his new girlfriend Fionna in a mental institution after Barry explicitly drove her insane gaslighting her about not being Flash because, when facing trial for murdering Reverse Flash, he refused to unmask even though his entire motive for killing Reverse Flash was tied into Reverse Flash knowing who Barry was

        >>ALL character development for the Rogues are gone with Captain Cold in particular regressed to an evil thug who's character is defined by his ugliness and having a hot looking sister

        >>No Bane, no Spoiler, no Tim Drake, no Harley Quinn, no Azrael, no Batman Inc (and their characters character growth), no Cassandra Caine, no Court of Owls, no Batgirl (because Babs had retired by the time Crisis happened), no Damien, and Jason Todd is a "golly gee willickers!" ginger who dies his hair black and has a hot sexy albino super villainess trying to sexually groom him

        is pure cancer Silver Age: no marriage, no kid, no Ma and Pa Kent, Clark Kent being a mask Superman wears to get his masochistic jollies, Lois is a mentally ill sicko obsessed with marrying Superman because she won't have sex until she's married, Lex Luthor is a worthless mad scientist who makes Kite Man look like a bad ass, no Doomsday, Metallo is a guy in a green and orange fright suit, hell none of the shit from the Byrne reboot or JOSS that made people actually give a frick about Superman basically.

        >>No Suicide Squad

        >>No Sandman Mystery Theater or Starman or Johns JSA

        >>No O'Neil Question, no JLI with comedy duo Blue Beetle or Booster Gold, no Ice (just evil b***h Icemaiden), Fire has no personality except ethnic scrappy, no Rocket Red or G'Nort, or Martian Manhunter Oreo obsession or Max Lord.

        >>No post-Crisis Wonder Woman stuff

        It should just be a streamlined world like Young Justice S1

        The Justice League is the big 7
        Lois and Clark are dating. Lois and Jimmy know Clark is Superman.
        Green Lanterns are Hal and John
        Robin is Dick Grayson
        Kid Flash is Wally West (the real one)
        Wonder Girl is Donna Troy
        The Teen Titans (including the Wolfman originals) are all high school students
        Newer legacy characters like Stargirl and Mr. Terrific exist
        Oldschool JSA existed on E2

        Just trim the fat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’m fine with this too. It doesn’t have to be exactly the pre-Crisis DCU, although I still think a return to that universe and good writers/editors would solve the problems.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Green Lanterns are Hal and John
          But muh representation! We must have gay GL, lesbian GL, muslim GL, black sassy teen GL and even korean GL. Oh, and of course the writer of Green Lantern must be the guy who hates Hal Jordan.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bronze Age DC was great. Still had the fun ideas of the Silver Age but toned down and you had horror characters like Swamp Thing mixed in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      same dumb shit Didio tried to do,no, even the literal pre-crisis boomers are too old these days, it's Pre-flashpoint people want

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They tried in 2011 that only led to people hating it MORE and the biggest loss of actual fans ever.

      You’re right, Superman was much better pre-Crisis.

      Except in sales. Pre-crisis superman was massive in hte 50s but not afterwards, say what you will but post crisis with its triangle era and stuff like death of superman actually made superman sell again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And then crash shortly after with the electric blue bullshit, red and blue, and whatever the frick Millennial Giants was. After the Death, Reign, and Return storyline finished they had nowhere interesting to go. Give me Bronze Age Superman any day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, yes. Lets make the characters appeal to the 50-60 yo olds who were reading comics in 1985.

      Are you moronic? The kind of public they need to attract now is the DCAU/Young Justice/Teen Titans crowds.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes, yes. Let’s make the characters appeal to the 50-60 yo olds who were reading comics in 1985.
        Don’t be obtuse, anon. You don’t set the comics in 1985, you set the status quo at the time. You can have all the cellphones and references zoomer morons like yourself love.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The status quo from 85 also nixes a lot of post 85 status quo people under 60 liked.
          >Well just introduce them later!
          But why? I'd rather have the pre-Flashpoint stuff that compromised by having pre-crisis characters with post crisis ones.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You could actually introduce them in better ways, like have Damian not be the product of a drugged up Bruce.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Or better yet have Damian not exist at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I like Damian, though. I think he’d fit well in a Bronze Age style (but set in the present) DCU. Hell, Ra’s and Talia are both Bronze Age characters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                His whole origin reads like bad tumblr fanfiction. If Bruce is to have biological children it would make far more sense for it be with a character that is actually liked instead of one of his least popular love interests.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bruce and Talia had already had a baby in Son of the Demon. Damian made perfect sense for the Bat-mythos but he certainly should have stayed dead after Morrison's run ended.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >let’s bring back things most people don’t care about anymore because they’re 39 years out of date and would remove tons of beloved character development

      Fanboys are so goddamn stupid

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DC and Marvel has been on life-support ever since 2020. WB finally decided to pull the plug.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think anyone expected Rooster Teeth to close down so suddenly. Even the workers didn't know until the announcement.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think anyone expected Rooster Teeth to close down so suddenly. Even the workers didn't know until the announcement.
      What did you expect, a 3 month's notice? That would be 3 months of them getting a paycheck while having 0 motivation to do anything.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and look at that, we also have the resident moron closet weeb/comicbook reader always posting his Demon Slayer screencap too

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this company is so trash it deserves to burn. when morons like tini howard are constantly given work you know it's fricking over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's trash because the comics aren't selling. If you were a casual who casually enjoys all things DC, you wouldn't even know these comics existed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ??

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Today I will remind them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >my post is a screencap
      Based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >image
      The funny thing is, comics do get sold in grocery stores, there are anthologies and there is digital. Comics in grocery stores that sell tend to just be one and done kids books and anything more it is hard to reliably get. Supermarkets don't like products to languish on stands. Anthologies like 3-4 Bat books in one do exist, similar problem overall with supermarkets. Digital does exist but it only works best on PC and not on phones etc because comics aren't really designed for that.

      I know the other reasons that always get mentioned, history of comics, entrenched industry problems, quality problems, culture wars, physical/print media decline & competition with other forms of entertainment etc. But the truth is, comics just aren't cool. Western countries have entrenched cultural ideas about comics being for losers and you can't shake that. Even billion dollar franchise movies haven't shaken that idea! Manga doesn't have the same cultural baggage, oh it has cultural baggage sure, but doesn't have the same weight to it. The US industry died as a past time when 50% of the shops closed in the '90s just as the best manga was coming over to the US. Comics aren't cool and nothing will fix that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Comics just aren't cool
        Good, neither is manga despite what people think. Now we just need to get back to the era where women were drawn BEAUTIFUL with big well defined boobs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Manga and anime is very cool, despite what a backwards boomer/gen X grandpa like you thinks. Get with the times, old man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is. I had a conversation with ONE boomer, like grew up with Death of Superman boomer and we were talking about Batman. Young guy (20s) who worked with us asked what we were talking about. We told him Batman and DC and he said he's not into that he likes media like anime and manga.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > Death of Superman boomer
              lol I know it’s like 32 years old but it still feels dumb calling a guy in their 40s a boomer

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's in his 60s.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then he didn’t grow up with DOS, he was in his 20s when it came out. It’s like saying you grew up with , idk, digital circus because you saw it in your 20s

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >defensive boomer coping about his own old age and boomer takes

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was born after DoS can out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When you hit an older age like 60, experiencing something in your 20s is growing up with it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They've never been cool. They still aren't. Normies don't care about manga or anime. Comics or rather Superheroes were cool due to the Marvel movies but thankfully that era is over.

            The moment manga/anime becomes "cool" is the day Nami gets her breasts shrunken and you find out Luffy can turn into a woman thanks to his stretching powers.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >normies don't care about manga or anime.
              Anime and manga are mainstream normie tier at this point. NFL players cosplay as Naruto characters when showing up to games. Pokemon is the #1 IP in the world. Paris Saint Germaine fans literally have massive One Puece banners displayed in the stadium. You are simply old and out of touch.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Luffy can turn into a woman
              Do you not know who Ivankov is? And Nami's big breasts are also normie fair. Normies like big breasts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fare

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              OK boomer

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Manga nerds seething
                You are not cool. And you don't want to be cool. Being "cool" is what destroyed comics.

                Ironic you chose an example that is DC hiring an East Asian creator(as in, actually living in East Asia)

                See picsreel

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                OK boomer

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Being a nonbinary they/them is not cool. These woke gender xer comics failed because they aren't cool and normies hate it. Manga and anime continue to flourish because it is cool, especially compared to the gay millenial MCU, or genderfluid DC and Marvel lgbtq homosexual comics that only exist to check ESG/DEIA checkboxes, for vanguard, blackrock and state street.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Guys Anime is so much better than comics, think of all the rich genres!
                >the only shit that gets popular is shonen aka capeshit

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                Based. Anime showing them how to do it right and actually succeed. Meaning DC comic sales are dogshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >>Guys Anime is so much better than comics, think of all the rich genres!
                I never said this, but yes there are varied genres. But even in Capeshit, my hero academia and one punch man mog anything the west has done recently. Western comics can't even do capeshit right anymore and that's supposed to be their bread and butter kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my hero academia and one punch man
                Are fricking trash my dude. OPM is a meme and MHA is as rehashed as it gets. Quality in manga is the shithole.

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                If that's considered trash then what the frick is capeSHIT?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                As shit as they are, still better than western capeshit. And don't forget that as mid as it is, KnY outsells both marvel and DC COMBINED kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >As shit as they are
                As shit as they are but nothing, it's all shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And what is Western Comics then? Sounds like you're mad that their slop sells better than your slop.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This. If manga is shit, then western comics are even lower than shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Seeing grown men weep for and cosplay as Naruto and Goku is no different than fat soibeards clapping their feet at Marvel and Spider-Man.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if manga is shit
                It's not, I'm tired of pretending it is to sate egos. It's a consistently popular medium across multiple demographics, maybe back in 2006 you could say the only people reading manga in the USA were the same people reading comics, but at this point manga has become some diversified in consumption that whining about it is like whining about television or books, you'd have to narrow it down to a genre. Meanwhile western comics are still almost exclusively read by white men ages 30+ which is especially hilarious considering the amount of pandering and "outreach" they've done, and superheroes are still 90% of what gets printed.

                I'm trying to think of what western comics have had any kind of pop culture footprint in the last 20 years, I mean the comics themselves not an adaptation. All I can really think of is The Walking Dead, which was because people wanted anything Zombie related at the time, and maybe 2000AD, which wouldn't you know it releases weekly on an anthology model built around flagship series (Judge Dredd) just like manga does.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >but at this point manga has become some diversified in consumption
                Black and brown weebs shitting their pants over Shonen Jump is just as cringe as white weebs doing it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's not just black and brown weebs being into dragonball or whatever, weebs are around but manga and anime have pretty successfully breached into normie pop culture consumption, they've got demos of both sexes, pretty much all racial groups, and ages going from young kids up to middle aged people. The Japs made the leap into an actual medium, meanwhile comics are basically collectible superhero merch that nobody actually reads.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not just black and brown weebs being into dragonball or whatever
                Except it, moron. And its always the worst shit that gets popular much like how the MCU made billions.

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                Every single Dragonball movie has flopped in America.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So has ever DCU movie....

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                Using Marvels and Blue Beetle for your comparision isn't a good look when everyone knew those were going to flop. More people had interest in the Flash film and shit was DOA.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Jjk and KnY were the most popular shows in japan and became the most popular anime in the west. You have literally no idea what you're talking about and it shows. You sound like a shut-in. Capeshit weebs are even gayer than anime weebs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Jjk and KnY
                Literally Japanese capeshit for kids

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And both literally outsells the combined sales of Marvel and DC capeshit. Same with Spy X Family. What does that tell you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >What does that tell you?
                Slop sells.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're almost there. Why doesn't western capeslop sell but weeb slop does?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Why doesn't western capeslop sell but weeb slop does?
                That's easy; good advertising. Much like how Disney was able to sell to millions with their movies, the Japanese do the same through anime and video games.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why doesn't Disney slop or western capeslop sell anymore? Are you suggesting that western marketing is inferior to Nip marketing too? If western capeslop had better marketing do you actually believe it will outsell anime and manga?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Why doesn't Disney slop or western capeslop sell anymore?
                Bad advertising.
                >If western capeslop had better marketing do you actually believe it will outsell anime and manga?
                That’s how Demon Slayer did it. It exploded in popularity when the anime hit Netflix.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But it does. Just because they also have flops doesn’t change the fact they do make successful stuff. You’re just a reactionary moron who doesn’t understand anything yet think you’re super clever because you buy into online hate machine talking points about go woke go broke. What Disney is primarily suffering from is having become so big that they have to out a lot of stuff regularly and they can’t all be hits and culture wars now have idiots like you use any single flop as a sign everything flops even though that isn’t the case. What you’re actually witnessing is the media landscape changing rapidly and big corporations understandably being slow to react and adapt to the new environment, because they’ve got tons of shit lined up that’s been produced with the giant tent pole blockbuster model that’s finally starting to show signs of no longer working.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >successful stuff
                Name 3 from the past 5 years
                >you can't

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh going as far back as 2019?

                Let’s see, in movies you had:
                Captain Marvel - $1.131 billion
                Avengers: Endgame made
                $2.799 billion
                Spider-Man: Far From Home - $1.132 billion
                Spider-Man: No Way Home - $1.922 billion
                Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - $955.8 million
                Thor: Love and Thunder - $760.9 million
                Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $859.2 million
                Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - $845.6 million
                The Lion King - $1.663 billion
                Frozen II - $1.453 billion
                Toy Story 4 - $1.073 billion
                Aladdin - $1.054 billion

                And then there’s things like the Mandalorian, Loki, Andor, Star Wars: Bad Batch, etc…

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - $955.8 million
                >Thor: Love and Thunder - $760.9 million
                >Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $859.2 million
                >Successes
                We all know that these are terrible movies and the only reason these films managed to perform that well (which was still considered underperforming for what they expected) was because the Infinity war goodwill wasn't yet completely destroyed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >okay they were successful but only because blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah now let me move the goalposts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am not that anon, just pointing out that the reasons those were successful were outside circumstances that are almost impossible to replicate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The cope from capeshitters never fails to make me laugh.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But how come no one is "shitting their pants" (as you put it) to DC?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Only losers read capeshit, Japanese or American.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So you're saying you read it then

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope harder grandpa

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope your ass, I come from Mexico where absolute mouthbreathers eat this shit up like it's oxygen. Do you know how fricking demoralizing it is to see people come together in masse for fricking Dragon Ball SUPER? Not even regular DB or Z, but fricking Super.

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                Even I can admit this shit is embarrassing. This is stupid as frick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those kids are based and you are a gay capeshit slurping cabron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                z is dogshit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                shit sorry I meant super. I don't know why I put z

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This. If manga is shit, then western comics are even lower than shit.

                It's all shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Now we just need to get back to the era where women were drawn BEAUTIFUL with big well defined boobs.
          Manga is doing that and never stopped doing that boomer

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Manga has a Japanese audience who are huge consumers and big into physical media who read a wide range of stuff and are willing to pay better for their entertainment. This has rubbed off onto Western audiences more, as well as the other things people like about that industry. Western comics doesn't have that. The "cool" factor is much more of an issue in the Western industry because comics have such a shambolic reputation and can't shake that after a decade of big budget movies. You can go out and find a really good indie comic, a really good series and convicing people to actually try it is a fool's errand. The cultural baggage is heavier on the things closest to you. Normal people will even watch an anime before they'd buy a comic. It is a lot higher in the pecking order.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Comics aren't cool and nothing will fix that.
        This thread can and should have ended here. The harsh true Cinemaphile will never accept is that whether or not manga is better than comics, the cultural perception that first encountered manga was much more open-minded and eager for something-anything-original than it was for comics.

        Comics on the other hand have become a hotbed first for nerds arguing about whether or not Hal should be forgiven for Zero Hour decades after it happened, then for grifters trying to pretend Identity Crisis was "the good old days"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >comics are just about superheroes

          And this is just another example why people don’t read comics because people just think western comics are capes and capes are pretty silly unlike movies which are kinda cool because it’s “more mature” and “serious”.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He won. He died for DC's sins.

            Yeah, pretty much this too. I even read some of the non-supershitter stuff like Elvira's ongoing (remember Elvira?) and the weird futuristic one about Merlin, but somehow it's way harder to find casual discussion about them than say-Kengan Omega.

            Kengan Omega is not even one of the top 20 most popular manga out there simply because it has no anime adaptation yet, and somehow it's easier to find a platform to talk about it than the fricking Elvira comic because Cinemaphile only talks about indie stuff to posture about how it's not like the other nerds.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cinemaphile would be pretty triggered by the new Elvira comic due to what it does to justify using Lovecraft as a good guy character in it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh hey, someone else in this very thread has read it. Yeah, sad but true-they probably felt they had to go there to avoid hatemail. Which is sad because otherwise the comic so far has been nonstop shenanigans and Elvira being a cute.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t know if it’s sad. It’s inevitable because people are more conscious of the guy and his views that are pretty incompatible with modern world and if you’re not addressing it then you essentially look like you are either condoning or trying to whitewash a very controversial part of the person. Imagine if you used Bill Cosby and pretended those rape charges didn’t exist. You just can’t do that.

                It’s not like you can’t still read and like those classic horror stories, it’s more about why do you have to blindly honour and pretend certain things about the person don’t exist. It’s the same argument as why does the South feel the need to glorify confederate generals when we know what they represent and those statues and institutions bearing their names were a deliberate propaganda campaign to whitewash the losing side of the civil war. But anyway this is getting off topic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For what it's worth, I do see your point. On the one hand I'd just rather enjoy a story about a sexy goth woman fight Cthulhu without someone trying to earn brownie points from a terminally online audience by shitting on a dead man for views he evidently recanted to some extent given he ended up marrying a israeli woman, but on the other hand given I've also read enough of the Elvira comics to know that, by and large, the writers AREN'T really interested in clout-chasing and just want to tell a funny story.

                ...even if another character referring to the Lucifer that Elvira met as THE Lucifer Morningstar kinda fricks with my head. Oh well, it's still less of a mindfrick than the idea that the Great Darkness is somehow merely one aspect of Lucifer. Actually is Elvira even considered a DC character still? I remember she hung out with Destiny and Cain & Abel back in the day

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That was a license deal done like almost forty years ago when House of Mystery was briefly revamped to be an Elvira centric anthology book. In technical sense sure she would be considered a DC character but they couldn’t use her in anything because that contract has been dead for decades. It wasn’t a very good book anyway. Too many bad stories and the way they tried to tie Elvira to them was dumb since it wasn’t even a real horror host deal like with Cain.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, that explains a lot. Though I suppose the current Elvira comic isn't exactly afraid of toeing the line of copyright infringement.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even if the quality wasn't good, it's still a heavily in demand book as far as the cheesecake art covers and the renewed interest in Elvira.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              God bless Prime, I hope he's happy now.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's just over. There are so many problems with the general state of DC that need changing before you even get to the actual substance of the comics themselves. They're just trying to hold fro dear life as long as possible while things continue to steadily decline. Just enjoy what you can while you can

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it’s a pretty simple fix. Focus on what straight white men in their 30s and 40s want. The only people who think it’s complicated are male feminist, queer, female and POC executives and editors.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Focus on what straight white men in their 30s and 40s want.
        They're never going to do this. It's over. DC is done. They're just managing a decline and their parent company is in trouble.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t say it’s impossible then, though. Say they refuse to do what’s necessary. There’s an important distinction there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If that were actually the issue, sales wouldn't have cratered long before you decided to have screaming fits about anything that doesn't espouse your extremism.

            Cope seethe and whine more. It doesn't matter if they truly believe in the cult of woke or not- they still went woke, and their company went broke. The executives and board members of course still get paid their huge salaries+ bonus ESG money.

            Why would I need to cope with an embarrassing moron like you having a meltdown?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >sales wouldn't have cratered long before you decided to have screaming fits about anything that doesn't espouse your extremism.
              >focusing on your paying customers rather than weirdos and foreigners online is extremism

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Stop melting down bro, you're gonna be ok.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Other comic companies did that, and their sales became even worst

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Name 3

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Name them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Focus on what straight white
        Yes
        >in their 30s and 40s want.
        No

        Teenage boy demographic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Let's be honest, they're never going to recapture the teen boy demographic. Not at $4-6 per issue.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That is what digital is for. Make it so comics have a digital version the day they hit the shelves, or a day later at most.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The stories are so bad and pointless that even if they have a huge surge in interest I'll eventually drop down to piss poor numbers again.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They are too stupid to do this. I worked on production of DC digital comics at the Burbank office from 2016-2018. People have been suggesting what you have in meetings constantly since way back then. The VPs always make excuses and shot it down, saying it would damage physical sales and make them "not special" and also said comic stores would complain. Here's another secret from the inside- digital comics have NEVER made money for DC and Marvel, and don't even break even for the costs of formatting and hosting the files. If there is a way to make DC comics sell digitally at profit, the DC VPs and marketing team have no idea how to make it happen.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tell us more about DC.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When they brought Mags Vassaggio to tour the office, he was surrounded by 10 executives and Jim Lee came down from the C-suite to show him around our production and editorial office. They treated Mags like the second coming of Alan Moore. When Frank Miller came in, he only had one handler and only noobs like me in the office were excited about it.

                In terms of comics I think Dan Didio is quite dumb, but as a human he was cool and normal and actually pretty based all things considered.

                What else do you want to know?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do they have character mandates?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So.....Could fans start making their fanfic a reality?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Very hard to believe a DC insider just happens to confirm all of Cinemaphile‘s conspiracy ramblings about C tier writers

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >all of Cinemaphile‘s conspiracy ramblings about C tier writers
                Tell me anon, how many C-tier writers get their shitty troon comic series that sold 1,500 copies each issue optioned and turned in to ScyFy TV series?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At least three bc that Morrison Happy show and that alien show with Alan Tudyk is based on a cancelled comic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have read this post before.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeh, I've told this story multiple times in these threads. I'm the same anon writing them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                does your dad work at nintendo too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No but the mail room was staffed entirely with nepobaby Kubert nieces and nephews.

                Do they have character mandates?

                Yes but I did not go to those meetings. I was only production, not a creative or editor. I do know they did thought Milk Wars and the Young Animals imprint would be a massive hits.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anything else that might be important for us to know?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I saw Bryce Dallas Howard and her agent outside the building and when they took her to tour the office. Her ass was as fat as it is in photos, otherwise I got nothing. Everyone I worked with in production besides the dumb manager and VPs was cool.

                Very hard to believe a DC insider just happens to confirm all of Cinemaphile‘s conspiracy ramblings about C tier writers

                I'm not an "insider", I was a production guy who worked in the 3rd floor office at Burbank.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Digital doesn't make a profit
                And yet manga doesn't have this problem. Picreel is a webmanga. The first chapter and the latest chapter are given for free while "back issues" have to be paid.

                This was a monthly, it made its money purely on the tankobons/trades. It got so popular that it upped its production to a biweekly schedule. It has been going for five years at this point and has only recently gotten an anime adaption.

                I don't know what DC's digital strategy is but this shit ain't hard to understand. Just plan to make your money on the trades with low budget creators.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because no one wants to read DC comics. Every single capeshit fanatic I knew for years refuses to touch the comics. They don't care and they're not interested in this slop. Now they will want a movie, but comics? They don't give a single frick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Digital comics CAN make profit, DC was too stupid to figure it out. Every time they'd make some progress on digital comics, they'd fire the manager or VP in charge and the new person would start all over again with their dumb version of it. This lead to me wasting time reformatting the same comics over and over again in different file formats. It was very stupid but I was just following orders and collecting a paycheck. When I got hired they told me they wanted my ideas and feedback, but they would shut down every suggestion I had, so I very quickly stopped caring once I realized no one knew what they were doing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've been there. Turns you into a Wally REAL quick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Just plan to make your money on the trades with low budget creators
                You'll complain it looks bad

                American/western comic art looks bad when it's low budget. Manga art is more "minimal" and focused on movement (and black and white) and uses more minimal dialogue/captioning so it is possible to turn it around on a quicker timeline and tighter budget.

                Also manga artists have crazy demanding hours. And teams of ghost artists who help churn it out fast

                "It works for manga" because it's a completely different style made with a completely different production method for a culture with different values

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You'll complain it looks bad
                So does quite a bit of DC and Marvel's output right now. The point of digital is how easy it is to publish compared to Print. You can be experimental, even a bit sloppy so long as you find an audience.

                Ten pages a month, hell do it in black and white if you want, test the waters, give C-list characters a chance. Better than wasting money on picsreel.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ironic you chose an example that is DC hiring an East Asian creator(as in, actually living in East Asia)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Imo they have the right idea with the bat family webtoon, they just shouldn't hide it behind a pay wall. The Gabriel piccolo teen Titans books and primer are genuine hits kids like, and they should focus on only that type of thing if they want money.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I worked on production of DC digital comics at the Burbank office from 2016-2018.
                Culver city gay here. You have my condolences.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know any of the editors or writers?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Chiarello is the only one I had any respect for, but I wouldn't say I "know" him. Khouri was a gay but his boss Jamie Rich wS the biggest woke gay, and primarily responsible for recruiting the woketard writers and artists that killed DC

                Oh going as far back as 2019?

                Let’s see, in movies you had:
                Captain Marvel - $1.131 billion
                Avengers: Endgame made
                $2.799 billion
                Spider-Man: Far From Home - $1.132 billion
                Spider-Man: No Way Home - $1.922 billion
                Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - $955.8 million
                Thor: Love and Thunder - $760.9 million
                Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $859.2 million
                Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - $845.6 million
                The Lion King - $1.663 billion
                Frozen II - $1.453 billion
                Toy Story 4 - $1.073 billion
                Aladdin - $1.054 billion

                And then there’s things like the Mandalorian, Loki, Andor, Star Wars: Bad Batch, etc…

                Too bad the financial failure of Disney + and the financial failure of their recent flopmovies has completely cancelled out those gains kek

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No way DC is the one that goes out first, imagine the fallout of 1 of the biggest comic publishers closing shops. Audiences would just leave in droves and that would kill comic book market for years. Speculators/investors would just dump as there would be no sign of stability in there current productline. Marvel would barely eat a portion of the competition and would prob get more hurt by the amount of store closures.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Given how Image is currently expanding at an alarming rate, I don't think DC is in that bad of a condition. I mean have you seen the list of books that got announced for the "New U"?

      >After Sam & Twitch: Case Files, Rat City, and Monolith get things started in March, April, and May, respectively, The New U’s rollout continues in June with the launch of Misery, Medieval Spawn, and Spawn Kills Every Spawn. Violator and Knights vs. Samurai arrive in August, followed by Deadly Tales in September and No Home Here in October. Additional upcoming titles include Focus, Spawn: The Dark Ages, She-Spawn, Bloodletter, and Spawn 77.

      And that's just Spawn. SPAWN!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Audiences would just leave in droves
      What audience?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Zaslav doesn’t care, anon. He needs to cut costs and will do anything to get out of the debt hole.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Jim Lee is on his way out, he's currently searching for alternative positions unrelated to comics

    Why would anyone hire Jim Lee to do something unrelated to comics?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I know this guy who knew this guy that got me the job despite being a complete frick up

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what about black people? have they tried tapping into that market? maybe produce something they'll read hmm?
    More diversity could be good/profitable you know.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Black people only like anime.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Latinos, too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Latinos, too.

        And that's another thing that gets me rolling. Japanese companies like Shusheya's shonen jump and fricking nintendo do a better job of getting black and latino people what they want than the big 2.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Every race prefers anime more than western capeshit these days.

          • 1 month ago
            LopiBats

            Because Americans in these corporations are run by hubris. They don't want to get better they just get worse over time because they're so fricking arrogant. Pride comes before the fall.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Black people do read comics. Older ones. The problem is the same with all races, it’s the young people not reading comics.
      Young people barely watch tv anymore too, unless it’s streaming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They did that with Future State and those black comics like Static and it didn’t work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Too late. We generally like anime and manga. I like Superman, too, but DC has totally ruined him.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope DC closes, Marvel closes, all comics shops close, all indie publishers close.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Jim Lee is on his way out, he's currently searching for alternative positions unrelated to comics
    What skills does Jim Lee have besides drawing and marketing himself? He hasn't created a memorable marketable character really. He mismanaged Wildstorm to the point of needing to sell to DC. Where can he go?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's a trained medical doctor I believe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he dropped that and hasn't even practiced in over 30 years, who wants a 60 year old surgeon who has no experience?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DC won't surivive the next predictive programming lockdown.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Lets do another reset surely it will work this time.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New event just dropped

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute power? More like absolute failure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        "Absolute State"

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We're finally free from demented comics.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DC should've taken notes from manga.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember being seen as a weirdo for watching anime and reading manga, back in the early 00s. Pretty cool that almost half of Gen Z are into it now.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warner is in talks to shut down the publishing division of DC.
    Umm source?

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Go Woke, Go Broke.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And nothing of value was lost.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >right now
    they were in shambles since ever. the first crisis was their attempt to fix it

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Quickly! Make more character gay and black!

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is crazy how badly Zaslav has run WB and DC into the ground.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      90% of this board predicted it. Nothing good ever comes out of acquisitions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll only get worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What a bunch of greedy idiots.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fake news.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    god, please buy it Disney. I just want to see superman and spidy in a crossover please

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warner is in talks to shut down the publishing division of DC.
    Guess the rumors of the character bibles were true after all. Well, congratulations for lasting for almost 100 years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What character bibles?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know what that anon is talking about, but anecdotally, Max Allan Collins claimed DC did *not* have character bibles in the 80s, but Greg Rucka talked about the Batman character bibles in the late 90s and said it had insane bullshit like Batman being a virgin. I'd be curious to know how they've changed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Once Dennis O’Neil established control on bat editorial for a few years, and sales boomed with the 89 movie,, he made a bat bible for writers to refer to
          You can read it here
          theotherscottpeterson.blogspot.com/2021/05/the-batbible.html?m=1

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Virgin? Does DC even know what a billionaire playboy is?

          Meanwhile Nightwing was getting sweet alien space pussy from Starfire. And was raped by underage Mirage over in Titans.

          I guess Dick could always teach Bruce about the birds and bees according to O’Neil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s fake news dude

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        shitposting aside if the joker 2 does bomb they probably will strip dc for parts.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Virgin? Does DC even know what a billionaire playboy is?

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's official then? Marvel won.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh so turning superman gay didn't work out huh?
    Too bad but you know what they say, Go woke Go broke.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warner is in talks to shut down the publishing division of DC.
    source: my ass and a desire to make the same generic shitpost thread for the 12 gorillionth time

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the source of this info? rob liefeld. who has said dc is about to die every few months for over 10 years now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rob liefeld.
      Did he? He only said consolidating.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warner is in talks to shut down the publishing division of DC.
    Sauce or gtfo

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Comic Book gays should chill a bit. This will only kill floppies, you'll get you Batman fix from the third party editorials that WB will license their brands from now on. You know like Schoolastic and such

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This will only kill floppies
      No it won’t. No one buys DC Comics outside of Batman. Most of their comics don’t even make it in the top 50.

      Marvel will continue to sell ASM and X-Men and be fine.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You guys don't actually believe this, right? DC will endure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >DC will endure
      lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, it probably will. As a script pitcher for DCU (Batman) movies.

        I just don't see a billion dollar company shutting down iconic ips like that. Cutbacks and layoffs, sure.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They will keep selling merch and evergreen books and omnibuses of classic runs. The rest will get shut down.

          They are too stupid to do this. I worked on production of DC digital comics at the Burbank office from 2016-2018. People have been suggesting what you have in meetings constantly since way back then. The VPs always make excuses and shot it down, saying it would damage physical sales and make them "not special" and also said comic stores would complain. Here's another secret from the inside- digital comics have NEVER made money for DC and Marvel, and don't even break even for the costs of formatting and hosting the files. If there is a way to make DC comics sell digitally at profit, the DC VPs and marketing team have no idea how to make it happen.

          >cont
          They had me working for a year with an outside contractor team who made a program to quickly reformat digital comics files for their new platform. The dev team would constantly rework the program, and every time they did this, I would have to start all over reformatting comics and re-entering data on excel. After a year, they fired the VP in charge of the program and the dev team and started over from scratch with a brand new dev team and new moronic VP in charge of it. Every boomer working at that company is a clueless moron (besides Chiarello who was based)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes because a bunch of shitty comics matters so much.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Comics means material they can use for future projects

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The new stuff is barely used. They keep refering to the old ones because the current stuff is so useless.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          WB will license those characters to third party editorials and reserve the rights to adapt the stories that will come out of that if some turn out ripe for adaptation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, it probably will. As a script pitcher for DCU (Batman) movies.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >WB will outsource DC as a licensed brand

    >licensing more manga and webtoons

    >I think they publish the YA graphic novels in house, they might try to keep those cuz they sell

    >Looney Tunes and Scooby Doo and Animated & Retro versions of DC will get licensed to Dynamite

    >someone will nab the rights to publish a smaller contained "DCU" comics line. It might only be like a handful of books. Just heavy hitters. Like the Valiant reboot or Ultimate Marvel. Maybe it will be WB's edict that it will have to be synergized with James Gunn's movies.
    >most likely options
    >MacFarlane Studios
    >Kirkman's Skybound
    >BOOM

    >YA graphic novels, Black Label, Elseworlds and other seminal books that inspired Gunn will have a shelf life, don't know if theyll still re publish those in house.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sure Jan.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The proper way forward would be a Japanese style magazine model. Semi digital so you can hook them, then push subscriptions. Only thing is it has to be dense and full of high quality content, which israelites can't stand.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When is Jim Lee retiring?

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminds me of the AT&T shit and the stuff over the pandemic. DC basically fired most of the collected editions department. (Then they also switched to a new distributor to annoy retailers.)
    >Gutted their collected editions department and put out barely any books.
    >Cancelled some big planned books to make into smaller hardcover editions to piss off fans such as the post-crisis Superman series.
    >Cancelled a bunch of other planned omnibus editions.
    >DC got paranoid about vol.1 drop off; basically post-vol.1 a collected edition's sales would drop off and decline over a series, which is natural, but DC got paranoid about it.
    >Started to make omnibus editions that were far too fricking big to collect whole series in 2 books max because of this paranoia.
    >Some of these books are super unwieldy and quality issues so put some people off.
    >(Meanwhile fricking Marvel you can get a run of omnis practically covering the whole Claremont X-Men run or all of Kirby's FF no problem.)
    >Kept cancelling series that would have sold such as some Peter David work (Supergirl/Aquaman).
    >Got a reputation for cancelling books or not wanting to print stuff because of the drop off.
    >So even a series people wanted, no one would bother investing in a vol.1 because it would most likely only go a few volumes before being cancelled.
    >Series that did sell well and keep going were subject to them deciding to change the logos and spine designs part way through a couple times to piss you off.
    >Then they decided more recently to not even bother with hardcovers and omnis and to go the compendium route which while cheaper they break/get worn super quickly.
    DC deserves the shit it gets.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who doesn't understand how normie tier anime is at this point is a shut-in.

  54. 1 month ago
    LopiBats

    DC is DONE HAHAHAHA

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >DC gays shitting on anime
    It's not anime that's dying....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The DC gays in this thread are coping hard about the death of their shitty capeslop publisher, you love to see it.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WB are so fricking dumb they've just annouced they want more live service and mobile games. It plans to double down, after Suicide Squad had a meh launch.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. What did you expect?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hope they continue to hire Sweet Baby Inc on everything lololol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They can do a mobile game on the cheap, just copy the Fate Grand Order model with 2D sprites

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Jim Lee leaves, hope he makes a boss move and somehow negotiates his way to retain the Wildstorm brand and IPs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hope he loses any rights to it, the fricking rat.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Japanese capeshit vs western capeshit
    Oh boy

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When people talk about "manga" and then post generic entry level WSJ shit I lose any respect for them. At least read something good instead of something for brainless morons.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like dc characters and hope new stories are made

  61. 1 month ago
    LopiBats

    RoosterTeeth's end is very similar to what DC is like right now.
    >Woke shit
    >Blocks everyone who criticizes them
    >Losing readers by the day thus losing money

    We're truely at the end.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I would say the world is healing but at the cost of this gay ass international superhighway. I'm a zoomer and you wouldn't believe how many of us willfully say "homosexual" in real life. Yet I come on the Internet and people are constantly crying over that word. That's a tiny example but my point is the Internet ruined a lot of good things.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even now there is hope for man

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Batman broke his back attempting to carry DC.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    get rid of the gays.
    I'm fricking serious. This isn't a meme, this isn't a "not muh childhood" overreaction. The gay pandering HURTS SALES objectively. People see a Superman comic, they're interested because it's Superman, they take a look inside and see "Superman" kissing his boyfriend, they WON'T BUY IT.
    Fricking cut it out already. You're killing yourself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even if they did its too late. They'd have to start following the manga model if they want younger people to even care about the books they put out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Primer and the Gabriel Piccolo Titans books are genuine hits with k8ds. DC should ditch the floppy shit line entirely and focus on YA that's not bogged down with decades of stupid continuity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >REEEEEEEEE GAYS KILL SALES

      Not true at all. Gay people barely even show up in most books. You’re a bigot who thinks they represent the majority when in truth you’re an obnoxious small minority screaming how hurt your feelings are

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nta but everyone shit their pants when Jon was turned into a homosexual. that stuff is just not necessary.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the homosexualry was just the icing on the shit cake. The age up alone destroyed any appeal the Jon had, but his gay boyfriend who also had the plot completely revolve around him was just another kick in the dick especially since it was powered by "frick straight white men"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a character who was a child cannot be bisexual when they grow up because YOU CANNOT DO THAT

          Yeah, you can. And people whining about it are just butthurt bigots.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you want that just make one a homosexual from the get go instead of changing already existing characters.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Jon was a child. A child who had not yet figured his sexuality. You’re a bigot if this triggers you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You're a bigot
                You say that like it isn't a compliment.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He wasn't a homosexual. And the character did not care for all that shit. Again you should make them gays from the get go. Not wait until a character is popular for you to ruin.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he was literally with two different girls who he obviously had a crush on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >duurrrrrr bisexuals can’t like girls

                I mean I know I’m dealing with mouth breathing morons here but how is it possible you cannot understand the basic definition of a bisexual in 2024?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bisexuals are coping gay guys who can't admit to themselves they're homosexuals. No girl wants to be with a man who fricks and gets fricked by other men. No matter what they say, it instinctively repulses women.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                "Trust me, I know a thing or two about repulsing women."

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are being moronic on purpose

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Eat shit, you pedo trans freak. You people should be burned at the stake.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You replied to the wrong anon. I don't want Jon to be a fricking homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off Taylor.

        Making Jon a homosexual killed the character and you and your pedophile homosexual friends bullying DC to prevent them from undoing what you did to rape the character (and actively trying to prevent any future writer from doing it by killing off possible fan suggested options to do so like how you maliciously killed off Ultraman) is why when DC Comics goes under, you'll hold a lion's share of the blame and hopefully, end up hung from the nearest tree with your eyes gouged out so you can't crawl your way out of hell.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know if Jon is the character to hitch your wagon to gay or not, dude was never going to make it. Though ironically he probably was preferred by gays and women when he was a small child.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Jon was necessary because Clark is entering the public domain.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Clark is entering the public domain
              Kind of funny we got the low quality horror movie (Brightburn) before that point tbh

              Eh the characters will be around forever no matter what, so I don't really care.

              Honestly, at this point it's a mercy kill for them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That actually makes a lot of sense.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Superman and Lois Lane will enter the public domain in 2034
                >Followed by Batman in 2035
                >The Joker in 2036
                >and Wonder Woman in 2037.
                I don't know what's funnier, the fact that we could well get a Joker book as the conclusion to the "canon" Batman story, or the fact that this is technically a preordained win for Darkseid because he'll still be hanging around DC long after his greatest enemies won't be legally allowed to appear there anymore.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know what public domakn is

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit that makes too much sense.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            DC was uncomfortable with the amount of porn being made with Jon and Damian. This was actually the reason they cancelled Super Sons and factored heavily into the decision to age up Jon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gay kills sales. You are coping.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Name one successful example of gay that didn't kill sales.
        >you can't
        The gay movie Bros proves my thesis. If audiences wanted gay, they would have gone to see Bros. Not even gays watched it kek

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ricky Martin, George Michael, Adam Lambert…

          Oh you mean comics? The Authority, X-men, Batwoman, Harley Quinn…

          Movies? Moonlight, Blue is the Warmest Colour, Call Me By Your Name, the Birdcage, Power of the Dog…

          TV shows? Euphoria, Last of Us, Severance, Mythic Quest, Queen’s Gambit, Only Murders in the Building, White Lotus, Yellow Jackets, House of Dragon, Peacemaker…

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Authority
            And what happened to wildstorm universe?
            >X-men
            Literally all about Hot chicks, Logan being Logan and cool fights before gays turned ice man gay and new morons started to be introduced or established characters changed it never recovered to what it once was
            >batwoman
            Literally who tier who only gets pity fame due to being nepo Bruce family, show? flopped, change her name and will be less known then Vixen or even some D-lister
            >Harley Quinn
            Ah yes, the le bisexual (which literally was made that because its sexy for guys) which ruined poison ivy character and literally cant shoulder something on her own without including batman or joker,

            Literally all of the above improves if they are straight

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cope, seethe, and go frick yourself. In that order.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >no arguments refuted
                >no points made
                You can leave the board and make it less gay, it will improve too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >less gay

                That would suck, so I hope they don’t leave

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Now do the other 18 examples.

              >And what happened to wildstorm universe?
              Bought by DC during a period when they were scrambling for something, anything to stick. The entire line was mismanaged from top to bottom and it had nothing to do with all of two characters who were openly gay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Topic about comics
                >whatabout things other then comics
                I can do it, but you wont like it and will not respond to actual arguments that are posted dissmising them because you feel bad about them, but even you have to admit that majority of entertaiment is non-profitable as of current year and forced to include shit for moronic reasons

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like a dodge, I accept your concession

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >coping this hard
                You literally gave up to make any arguments and demand that i write a post in a dying thread which is not even on topic because you got your feelings hurt, go take an air hike

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                about comics
                things other then comics
                Why are comicchuds so afraid of manga?

                And it's than* btw

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its not about comics/manga/movie/etc its about gay shit being detrimant to good story because its literally not a characteristic that is needed for any story beyond bland pandering to shizos who think its somehow makes them special

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But enough about heterosexual males

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I can do it, but you wont like it
                Is it because every answer is going to be 'I hate not being pandered to and view anything that doesn't as pandering to everyone who isn't me'? Because that's literally the argument I see all the time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Too many gay shit for the sale of being gay

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              sake*

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They will sell to Disney lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, it's gonna be to Apple or Amazon. Disney is actually in the same boat as WB, WB is just further along.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If they sell to Amazon, it's only a matter of time until the Superman vs Omni-Man or Homelander crossover happens.

        And we all know Amazon would make Superman eat shit to the other two, whether or not it actually makes sense.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Modern day Superman absolutely deserves to eat shit. I hope they take him back to basics and we get Golden age Superman again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I hope they take him back to basics and we get Golden age Superman again.
            ...I feel like you missed my point so hard, you somehow took away the exact opposite point. Let me try to explain again.

            I think it is is more likely that Amazon will make a Grail or Batkek spinoff series, than it is that Amazon will treat Superman with anything resembling dignity.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eh the characters will be around forever no matter what, so I don't really care.

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because you touch yourself.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not once has any rumor thread that started with a DC logo has ever turned out to be true.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the REAL Final Crisis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HYPERCRISIS WILL FIX IT

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Giving a shit
    I have enough good comics to re-read with these characters and don't need anymore fanfiction or shitty movies. Don't need any more pandering to normies or them gayging up the fanbase either

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no single website is talking about DC publishing shutting down
    Why are you guys getting so worked up over fake news?
    >but what if its true
    So what? Comic runs have overstayed their welcome by 30 years, its gotta change sometime. Im not gonna worry cause characters like batman, superman, rest of jl are icons that define the genre who will still be parodied 50 years from now (the rest can eat shit ig). Also wb will keep them around for movies and games, theyd be nuts not to. Hopefully theyll still publish them but as discrete self-contained volumes and not the mess of continuity we currently have.
    >muh tranime
    No one cares about your fotm pedobait

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They've been struggling since the 1970s to maintain relevance when the Marvel Age began.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he brought a squad to defend his shit taste
    Truly a 41% squad mission, defending spreading degeneracy on a basket weaving forum because he failed at life, keep pushing gay shit it wont fix your life, you still be irrelevant.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    An interesting case study would be, what will happen if Gunns DC era is not a financial success. I can realistically see them leaning into batman stuff for the next couple of years since that brings money no matter what, but if Gunns universe doesnt bring in profit could they look at licensing the properties to third parties?

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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