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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the brother was a massive moron for never looking downstairs ever. other than that i liked it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i never look downstairs ever as well

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i never look downstairs ever as well

      he was a drug addict and low IQ, he was probably also afraid of his brother

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He was just couch surfing there. I wouldn't explore every corner of someone's house if they gave me a place to crash.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a horror movie. It's a universal law that you check out every corner of your house .

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which he (a drug addict who was crashing at his brother's house) eventually did

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand how the brother just never ever woke up in the middle of the night and saw his brother sitting shirtless in a creepy mask

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because the brother was in the other house across the street

        nah that guy got grabbed too. i think he was the one who told the main kid about the fridge
        [...]
        wow 5 spooky ghosts appear and tell the kid how to escape with no explanation for why the frick the ghosts are there, no horror elements, 1 shitty jumpscare, and a scene with a mexican teaching him how to fight with a phone....epic...i was hyped af for this movie so i'm not being facetious

        >no explanation for why the frick the ghosts are there
        Autizmo/capeshit expectation. Ghosts don't need to have origin stories dumbass, it's implied that their souls remain stuck in there after violent deaths until they get their revenge

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          When he sits outside the basement waiting to beat the kids it's in the same house the brother sleeps in.
          The house across the street is empty and was only used for storing the bodies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he'll always be ray to me

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Djokovic?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    trailer looked corny. plot is about kidnapkid hearing ghosts on the phone.

    Cinemaphile doesn't like Jordan Peele but both his movies had way better concepts than this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it wasn't full of gay liberal israeli bullshit so like it!!!
      Take your meds

      oh what was I thinking, Cinemaphile didn't like it BECAUSE it has no subversion and no pozzed shit heh
      this board is just infested with trannies I guess

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your logic is fricked
        >hurrr I thought Cinemaphile didn't like it bc it didn't have gay lib shit in it
        >durrr it wasn't for those reasons that they didn't like it? Hurrrrrr they must be lib trannies I guess
        have a nice day dumbass

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          bump

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          gay

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it wasn't full of gay liberal israeli bullshit so like it!!!
    Take your meds

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was pretty boring not really much fun to see a kid sitting in a room talking to ghosts on a telephone.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Only time I jumped was that ghost boy jumpscare. This movie is the definition of mid

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't. It's a good movie. Nitpicking or projecting any type of testy expectation on it isn't the movie's fault.
    The movie has nice redemption overtones as well and the retro atmosphere was heartfelt. It does have sparse woke details (le ebil father) but at the end it all ties together.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It does have sparse woke details (le ebil father)
      the story is obviously about the kid growing up and standing up to adults and abusers, whats woke about having a character have an abusive alcoholic father at home?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Inherently nothing wrong with it-- it's rather the fact that woke bullshit tries to make adult men evil too often. The spanking scene went on for centuries.
        Both it's an overall movie that is ultimately fair to most characters. And Ethan Hawke's acting as the villain is superb and literally worth an Oscar nomination.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The lead boy was great for a kid actor. Pacing was tight. Score and visual design were atmospheric. I liked it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He was horrible

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >trailer features ghosts of dead kids calling the main kid on the phone
    >actual movie only has 5-6 calls
    >ghosts play little to no part outside of the small scenes where they are
    >45 minutes at the start of the movie of literal filler bullshit
    >"DUDE IM A GRABBER...JUST CUZ LOL"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Was the killer the blonde kid who beat up those kids for fricking up his pinball game? I didn't get it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        nah that guy got grabbed too. i think he was the one who told the main kid about the fridge

        play little to no part outside of the small scenes where they are
        Next time you watch a movie try paying attention

        wow 5 spooky ghosts appear and tell the kid how to escape with no explanation for why the frick the ghosts are there, no horror elements, 1 shitty jumpscare, and a scene with a mexican teaching him how to fight with a phone....epic...i was hyped af for this movie so i'm not being facetious

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      play little to no part outside of the small scenes where they are
      Next time you watch a movie try paying attention

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't even know this existed, but because of OPs disingenuous framing I will never watch it out of spite. Frick you.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Way too many missing important information pieces like what is the mask, where is it from, why does he need it, why is he killing kids, why are the town police so moronic, why are there ghosts, why doesn’t he believe in them, why even keep your idiot brother nearby, why is the girl psychic, details of moms death, did grabber get trapped in the phone, where is the phone now, house/room history. That and the ending wasn’t very satisfying and the supernatural part led to nowhere.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Probably trolling but that's a textbook autizmo take

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >autizmo take
        I would say moronic instead, but it's an obvious bait

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >what is the mask
      a mask
      >where is it from
      doesn't make any difference
      >why does he need it
      cool question
      >why is he killing kids
      lol he enjoys it he's just a killer bro
      >why are the town police so moronic
      what could they do
      >why are there ghosts
      its a movie
      >why doesn’t he believe in them
      ghosts don't exist
      >why even keep your idiot brother nearby
      he liked him
      >why is the girl psychic
      it's a movie she has powers of jesus
      >details of moms death
      suicide
      >did grabber get trapped in the phone
      yes
      >where is the phone now
      in the room
      >house/room history
      cool question

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Scott Derrickson you're a stupid gay and you will never get a job in Hollywood again.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Movie made 10x its budget and a sequel (or prequel) seems to be in the works

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Keeps the pain at bay

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up homosexual You WILL watch the elementary school kids and you WILL laugh with the audience whenever they say the "frick" word

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Way too many missing important information pieces like what is the mask, where is it from, why does he need it, why is he killing kids
      Is this what the zoomer brain is like? Is this why we'd have Jason Part 24: The Mask, explaining that Ooma Goobglag on the planet Zebulon created the original hockey mask? And then we can have a spinoff show about Goobglag because we have to find out how he became a hockey mask maker, and his tragic backstory, and who made the materials that were part of the mask? Perhaps an evil spirit has a mine of child murder victims that extracted evil plastic from plastic mountains?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        nice longwinded reddit joke. I like how every time a screenwriter fails to embellish any of the more interesting details in his story, you redditors can just say 'heh, it's spookier NOT knowing! I am very smart!' heaven forbid the more interesting parts were actually fleshed out and explored. such a cop out anytime a boring movie comes along with a more interesting story left in the draft notes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He's right 9gager, the only interesting and important thing about the masks is how they look like. You are embarassing with your adolescent need for useless trivia.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was boring

    Entire sister/cop plot was pointless

    No twist, no explanation, no scariness nothing

    I don't get how anyone liked this shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This website really is full of teenagers .
      This post literally screams of teen

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >This post literally screams of teen
        You would know the screams of teens you pedo gay boomer

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So you admit of being 13 then

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ironic considering you like horror movies

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking moronic movie with a shit plot. Basically like Stranger Things and Room have a baby except with shittier acting and totally moronic scenarios.
    >kid somehow defeats adult who has a fricking axe
    >"muhhh mask!! I can't see without muh mask!!"
    >makes a massive gash in arm with plastic rocket ship
    Super stupid movie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>kid somehow defeats adult who has a fricking axe
      >>"muhhh mask!! I can't see without muh mask!!"
      a massive gash in arm with plastic rocket ship
      Imagine being this dense and/or not paying attention and trying to blame the movie

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine defending a horror movie that turns into Home Alone at the end.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It does, just like Signs, another great movie, did. Here's what you missed: those apparently unrelated aspects coalescing into the main character's final win and freedom are a metaphor for faith.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So its the Whoopi Goldeberg machine of movies? If i wanted to see a bunch of objects come together to do something simple I would watch the Ok. Go. Music video.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >whoopi Goldeberg
              I meant Rube Goldberg

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              #
              It's about the sum of seemingly unrelated efforts that end up leading to one's salvation

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's about the sum of seemingly unrelated efforts that end up leading to one's salvation.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yo so like, ive been working for 20 years as a magician to save up for TWO HOUSES and have a sick soundproof basement and an extra basement with a freezer with no external connection BUT LISTEN
    Im gonna start grabbing kids and wait for them to be naughty and then i kill them in one house then bury them in another LOL so random I know
    Also theres a phone there that im scared of. I dont know why i put it there or why i havent taken it out! lol im so crazy?!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why the frick would you assume he's been working as a magician his whole life

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        everyone laugh. Point and laugh at this homosexual who is mad nobody else likes his gay ghost magician movie

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He has a point. The "questions" being raised by those on this thread who disliked the movie are massively moronic because they're either irrelevant or clearly answered during the movie, even if subtly.
          The "naughty boy" scenario was the Grabber's deranged sexual game (something not unheard of with real-life serial killers)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >bro just make up your own headcanon and it makes sense

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah bro it's not like there are people out there who like to kill others for their enjoyment

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Any expectation that a movie will be burdened by exposition in order to assuage childish types stuck in the "why" phase is unrealistic. Movies are not your mommies.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The "Grabber". What a dumbass homosexual name to land on for a serial killer. It's like the cherry on top for this shitty movie. The grabber.... jfc...

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oh noes me dislikey da bad man's name

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh noes me dislikey other people dislikey my Goonies kidnappy ghost story

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >i need these boys to be naughty before I beat them!
            >oh you fully escaped and ran away, no thats cool just hang out in the basement
            >oh you like fricked up the window grate and did all this other shit a cursory examination would reveal? no big deal you arent a naughty boy yet! Just dont go up those stairs you already went up when you escaped!!

            Its fricking moronic even with the most generous exemptions

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              NOOOOOOOOOOO you just dont understand! it's not the job of the movie to explain all these loopholes! PLEASE just use your imagination to make up for shitty writing!! cmon BRO!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just be self-aware of the autistic nature of some "questions" that trigger you

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >>oh you fully escaped and ran away, no thats cool just hang out in the basement
              He called the main character "naughty boy" before knocking him out cold. Make of that what you will
              >>oh you like fricked up the window grate and did all this other shit a cursory examination would reveal? no big deal you arent a naughty boy yet!
              Why would he make a "cursory examination"? He's not a realtor and had already succesfully held 5 other victims in the same place
              Your assumption that you're raising relevant questions is both tone-deaf and low IQ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't properly explained to me every single thing that happened in the movie, I dont like it!!!!!

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being the villain and dying to a home alone trap

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the police didn't notice the black van they've been looking for parked across the street when they first interviewed the brother?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was an analogy for Christianity. (spoilers abound)

    The Grabber represents Satan, he grabs us and holds us under. We have all the necessary tools to escape from his clutches but the only way to do that is if we have faith. In this film faith is represented by The Black Phone (and also literally by Jesus in the form of Finn's sister praying for answers.)

    Even though it seems like everything is for naught and you have no idea why God isn't answering your prayers, He IS, you just are too shortsighted to see the pieces he's laying down that will come in use later. This happens when Finn breaks into the steak freezer and can't get out, it feels like everything he's been doing has made no progress. But it actually has. He wasn't supposed to escape via the freezer, the freezer was there so he could grab a steak at the end and save Max's body from the Grabber's dog. Responsibility and Respect for the dead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      At the end when Finn finally escapes his sister realizes he wasn't even in the house she thought he was, he was in the one across the street. The ONLY way he could've gotten out of his torment was through The Black Phone. Just like how Jesus is the only way through life and into heaven.

      There's also a message about violence and anger being necessary against violence. This is EXTREMELY rare to find in modern hollywood, where the protagonist is stripped of all his notions of "righteous" anger in favor of apathy and loss of individualism. It's meant to discourage you. Look at The Batman, The Northman, Under The Silver Lake, A Monster Calls, etc. It's all told in the name of moderation, but it really just exists to weaken you and siphon your Will and Energy out of you.

      This is not the case in this film, which was written and directed by a known Christian man (Scott Derrickson).

      The message of this film is that there are evil, wicked people out there who want to hurt you and your family and friends. They're bullies, but fully grown and more malicious.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Excellent write-up anon, none of that had occurred to me
        Also the aspect of redemption in the movie is pervasive, there's always something good that can be done despite individual shortcomings

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was an analogy for Christianity. (spoilers abound)

        The Grabber represents Satan, he grabs us and holds us under. We have all the necessary tools to escape from his clutches but the only way to do that is if we have faith. In this film faith is represented by The Black Phone (and also literally by Jesus in the form of Finn's sister praying for answers.)

        Even though it seems like everything is for naught and you have no idea why God isn't answering your prayers, He IS, you just are too shortsighted to see the pieces he's laying down that will come in use later. This happens when Finn breaks into the steak freezer and can't get out, it feels like everything he's been doing has made no progress. But it actually has. He wasn't supposed to escape via the freezer, the freezer was there so he could grab a steak at the end and save Max's body from the Grabber's dog. Responsibility and Respect for the dead.

        Damn anon. Your movie sounds far better than the one we got.

        FYI. I took a friend to this and had to apologise for dragging her to such a shite movie.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you based Christ brother

      I was hoping this got posted

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It also shows characters that are flawed but also tried to do good, even if from the afterlife. And the dog also has clear parallels to Cerberus, which is a Greek mythology figure but also keeps guard at the entrance of hell. The Grabber also kills his brother like Cain did

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      At the end when Finn finally escapes his sister realizes he wasn't even in the house she thought he was, he was in the one across the street. The ONLY way he could've gotten out of his torment was through The Black Phone. Just like how Jesus is the only way through life and into heaven.

      There's also a message about violence and anger being necessary against violence. This is EXTREMELY rare to find in modern hollywood, where the protagonist is stripped of all his notions of "righteous" anger in favor of apathy and loss of individualism. It's meant to discourage you. Look at The Batman, The Northman, Under The Silver Lake, A Monster Calls, etc. It's all told in the name of moderation, but it really just exists to weaken you and siphon your Will and Energy out of you.

      This is not the case in this film, which was written and directed by a known Christian man (Scott Derrickson).

      The message of this film is that there are evil, wicked people out there who want to hurt you and your family and friends. They're bullies, but fully grown and more malicious.

      makes sense, scott is openly christian and has worked with christian themes before, even the father has his redemption

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      These posts are the pros of the movie:

      At the end when Finn finally escapes his sister realizes he wasn't even in the house she thought he was, he was in the one across the street. The ONLY way he could've gotten out of his torment was through The Black Phone. Just like how Jesus is the only way through life and into heaven.

      There's also a message about violence and anger being necessary against violence. This is EXTREMELY rare to find in modern hollywood, where the protagonist is stripped of all his notions of "righteous" anger in favor of apathy and loss of individualism. It's meant to discourage you. Look at The Batman, The Northman, Under The Silver Lake, A Monster Calls, etc. It's all told in the name of moderation, but it really just exists to weaken you and siphon your Will and Energy out of you.

      This is not the case in this film, which was written and directed by a known Christian man (Scott Derrickson).

      The message of this film is that there are evil, wicked people out there who want to hurt you and your family and friends. They're bullies, but fully grown and more malicious.

      the cons of the movie (and ignoring all the nitpicking), however are:
      1. the entire plot with the girl was pointless. I get the symbolism but it doesn't change the fact that it was a huge waste of the audience's time that could have been done better while also having psychic nonsense that added nothing.
      2. the killer was never shown to do anything bad beyond kidnap the kid. we're told he's so evil and killed all these kids, and yet the entire movie feels like filler where the killer can't do anything beyond sit on a chair and wait. really takes a lot of the wind out of the story.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They did 40 takes of this scene. Make of that what you will

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based as frick director.
      Actors are a director's toys for him to pose as he pleases.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kid also literally throws a 90mph breaking ball at the beginning of the movie. And the outfielder isn't even looking at the homerun ball as it goes over the fence. I still remember thinking to myself "wow, not a good start". I should have saved myself the time and turned it off then

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nobody watches yank ball homosexual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Just re-watched the scene. The sound of the ball coming off the metal bat is a sound bite of a ball coming off a wooden bat. Lmao, lazy as frick editing. Need I remind you they had to CGI the kid throwing and hitting a baseball? Hahaha fricking pathetic. Nobody likes your homosexual movie, homosexual. And you're being a massive little b***h for being so assblasted about it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cgi was trash

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense within the story, both metaphorically (he was always looking upwards, playing with rockets etc) as well as his arm being "mint", which was essential in the end
      Both foreshadow the plot beautifully

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My takeaways
    >Gays abduct boys to rape and murder them
    >God is real and if you pray to him, he will give you visions that will help you kill homosexuals

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is Scott Dericksen defending his movie on a Cinemaphile thread?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >blumhouse
    all you need to know about it

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked it. I didn’t find it remotely scary, but it was a good story well-told.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Saw it last night. I loved it. Idk I love fun stuff like this with good kid actors.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    didn't hate it, but i enjoyed it while watching it more than i did remembering it after, it's a movie that has great ideas but feels like it's lacking, that's exactly how i felt about Sinister too

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    critics and general Audiences love this movie,
    Very well received by a lot of people

    So of course, Cinemaphile has to hate it and trash it out of contrarian principle

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a handful of rambunctious teenagers either raising pointless issues or asking obvious questions.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We know it’s you Scott, you don’t have try so hard. People don’t care about Christianity and just wanted to be scared at a horror movie.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, it's essential for a director to spend the night on Cinemaphile talking about his movie

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Resident evil and the boys literally keep mentioning Cinemaphile

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The opening credits said this was based on a short story? Anyone here read it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's from Joe Hill's 2004 1st book and clearly highly indebted to his dad's best aspects as a horror writer. Apparently Hill has already thought of an idea for another Black Phone movie which Derrickson liked a lot.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    saw it yesterday, it was ok i guess, pretty predictable

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    because I kept waiting for something interesting to happen and it never did. The Grabber is the shittiest villain ever, he could have been fun but wasn't because nothing happens to him or with him.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hecking love blumhouse orange piss filtered modern slow burner horror with cursing kids that can't act

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make shitty horror movie
    >DUDE IT WAS AN ALLEGORY FOR _*THING*_
    >i am very smart 🙂

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are a24 trannies seething at this fun kino? Not enough interracial sex or white people bashing for you?

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't hate it, didn't love it. It was just alright.

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