Why did Crunchyroll ever actually get behind this? Surely they knew that the autistic weaboos who make up their subscriber base would hate everything about it.
Why did Crunchyroll ever actually get behind this?
Why did Crunchyroll ever actually get behind this? Surely they knew that the autistic weaboos who make up their subscriber base would hate everything about it.
>Surely [out of touch aging executives] knew that [...] their subscriber base would hate everything about it.
Yeah, no.
They figured they could do it on the cheap and that any criticism about how shit everything about it is could be deflected by the LGBT shilling
Trying to minimize their reliance on the Japanese industry and try and rope in the demographics which will entertain any slop as long as it signals the progressive tribes. Vrilwytblik says it's more throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. It obviously has a rather lackluster budget on all levels so they were probably hoping that it'd churn out something kitschy yet marketable.
>Vrilwytblik
Does he go away for 30 days if he says his name backwards
Kek
>I DON'T GET IT WHY YOU THREE DIMENSIONAL MONKEYS DIDN'T GET THE GENIUS OF THIS SHOW. IT'S A SUCCESS IN THE FIFTH DIMENSION.
Crunchyroll has a number of troonylators and US hard left weeaboos. The kind that watch dubbed anime and advocate for less fanservice in japnese productions. Their power level was high enough to go for the Tokyopop American Anime play.
I am so grateful that I don't care about the shitty politics that you homosexuals subscribe to where not liking breasts in anime is a left vs right issue. I'd eat human shit before I would ever take one of those sides
Sadly you're still living in that world
>to where not liking breasts in anime is a left vs right issue
Because the left MADE that an issue. It IS political because they're morons that made it into one.
And why should you even care? Why not just commission hentai artists to get your fap fix then?
That's the same dumb argument they always make "Hurr just watch porn." It's stupid and you're being bad faith. Regurgitating that same lefty canned argument.
Their as to why it's anime breasts are bad is nonsensical and based on a moronic ideology in the first place. There's no good reason for the change and so it should be opposed on those grounds in the first place. But it also objectively makes the products that I enjoy worse, we see the results of this where we constantly get ugly and unsightly characters like starfield or how hideous He Man was. I don't want to watch porn or masterbate to anime just because I want attractive or appealing characters. It's not even that I necessarily want everything to hyper sexualized I just don't want these ugly character designs in my media.
Why should I care? It's the shit that I enjoy that I don't want them ruining. It's obvious why people care that's a dumb thing to say. It's based on a dumb ideology as well. The whole porn argument is always dumb because sometimes it's also implying that the only things allowed to be not ugly is porn. Maybe I want decent looking characters in something with an actual story.
Guess what, unappealing characters are...unappealing. Every imagine that?
>dude who cares that outside forces are corrupting your hobby, just watch porn
Insert the end of a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Worst part is it's YOUR fault for being so lazy and stupid.
What are you even talking about?
The SJWs said exactly what they were doing and telegraphing their whole plan. They wanted positions in the industry or platforms to make their opinions known. And rather than do the same AntiSJWs placed their thumbs up their asses, said that was for homosexuals, then said "Black personBlack personBlack person, So Triggered!" then after 10 years wondered why SJWs had a bunch of positions and ears to push all their bullshit.
>The SJWs said exactly what they were doing and telegraphing their whole plan. They wanted positions in the industry or platforms to make their opinions known. And rather than do the same AntiSJWs placed their thumbs up their asses, said that was for homosexuals, then said "Black personBlack personBlack person, So Triggered!" then after 10 years wondered why SJWs had a bunch of positions and ears to push all their bullshit.
Thankfully those Impotent AntiSJW have their Old Rich White men to worship and pray to put the SJWs in their place (in the factories where they belong).
What the frick are you even talking about? Crunchyroll's weeaboo core subscriber base is backed by old rich white men? Is this some kind of bizzare pol or leftypol meme I'm not aware of?
Leftards were getting nowhere for years until israelites pushed them foward
The left has been taking over Western culture for a few decades now.
Some people actually are passionate about things they like and want to see it thrive. Hollow bugmen won't get it.
The left are passionate about expressing themselves. You are passionate about getting to jerk off to boobs in cartoons. You are not the same.
More they're passionate about getting to censor things, but you're correct. The right will continue to fail until they learn to be proactive rather than react years after the fact of someone who's already succeeded in getting their foot in the door.
Posts like this are why I hate white people.
I hope you trip and fall and scrape your clit on burning hot asphalt.
Christian Conservatives are the ones who are trying to ban porn, make you enter your driver's license to view it, etc.
And white lefties are the ones crying about stuff like pic related.
Damn, this looks goofy as hell, glad AI is gonna make all of those chink artists lose their jobs
moronic twitter wokists say hypersexualized anime girls are heckin unwholesome. Meanwhile, boomer right wing politicians and religious organizations are the ones who actually push for antisexual laws. Look up NCOSE, or which states started requiring ID to look at porn.
moronic twitter wokists have more cultural clout and influence.
Sorry to brake it to you, you increasingly geriatric frick: boomer's opinions haven't had influence on media since the fricking 90s.
I love the Asians.
Why can't America return to big breasts?
Yeah but the Feminists are trying to make us feel guilty about it, or at least encourage us to think critically about it. That's much worse.
What does porn have to do with ecchi?
Did you even read the reply chain you replied to?
Ecchi is just softcore porn
it's mostly leftists when it comes to anime/hentai shit at least. japanese conservatives embrace it more and more in recent years while japanese leftists hate it more and more in recent years mostly due to western influence.
it's been criticized by the UN for more than a decade too and they are basically leftists. there was a time japanese conservatives criticizing it while leftists defending it in the 1990s but now it's basically the other way around.
Don't be a dumbfrick anon. Leftist morons AND rightist morons want to ban anime breasts. The rightist morons are not relevant in this specific case. And the opening promo spent more time on gender politics than it did on characters and setting.
>I am so grateful that I don't care about the shitty politics...
So, when you see a promo that's 75 percent shitty politics, what's your first reaction to the show? If it's going after the people who accurately describe it as politics, there's no hope for you.
>The rightist morons are not relevant in this specific case
I mean, in this specific case they are pretty relevant to failure of the show? Because immediately following that initial trailer that talked more about the writers room that the show itself, HGS became a massive FOTM topic within the rightist moron spheres online - bringing in not only the anime/cartoon subsets but also a lot of people who don't watch anything and just used it as something to point at and be upset about. And that led to a sort of feedback loop where the very reactionary rightist conversation eclipsed pretty much all other possible discussion of the show itself.
And because of that, there were direct impacts on how the show was and still is perceived, with it being shot completely out of the water before the show even aired (after it was delayed and released with almost no fanfare as a direct result of that rightist attention), and almost any conversation of it being completely dominated by said rightest talking points. This thread as an excellent example.
>people who don't watch anything and just used it as something to point at and be upset about
Im feeling pretty fricking attacked right now
Secondaries and grifters are the worst part of any community - whether that's comics, anime, video games, sports, tabletop, music - you name it.
99 times out of 100 I'll always respect and want to speak with someone who I absolutely disagree with but cares about and is involved with the subject matter than someone who is there for external reasons.
> someone who is there for external reasons.
So... the makers of high guardian spice?
No, crunchyroll and youtubers in general.
The actual creator (the troon) is massively better and got screwed over.
My opinion is perfectly valid even though i only have tertiary knowledge of this, what is it? A webcomic or something? Anyway i agree with whatever it is we're mad about
Clarification: The rightist morons who want to ban anime tities. The rightist morons you speak of are a different set, closer to the Joe Rogan and South Park type.
>I mean, in this specific case they are pretty relevant to failure of the show?
Not really, the show failed because it was low-budget, low-effort dogshit that only appealed to white American women.
Anime isn't like cartoons; people aren't so starved for content that they'll watch ANYTHING, there's like 50 new anime every season these days, no one has time to watch everything and almost no one WANTS to watch everything.
Finally, somebody itt who isn't a complete moron
I TAKE A MAGIC POTION ONCE A MONTH THAT LETS ME BE THE REAL ME
"If it's the real you why do you need to take a potion"
Gymbros on HGH and tren cycle can relate.
>he wasn't actually a cute femboy
>he was a troid
Why did they do it?
>Wanted him to be a feminine man instead of a troony who's actually a girl
You're just all over the place.
Eh, it's not LULZ level yet. And at least they're still human and not floor tiles.
>watches show made by trannies, for trannies
>is surprised when troony is tran
do you also get mad at drag shows for being too homosexual?
Drag shows were made by based straight men to mock women until gay trannies co-opted it.
heh, never thought i'd hear Cinemaphile calling the epitome of troony culture "based", but this board was always one of the more closet pozzed ones
For me, it's Freakangels
At the time, Crunchyroll was trying to legitimize themselves as a full blown animation network, not just a streaming platform. Like everyone in earth, they knew that fan subs will always reign supreme in the anime industry so they wanted to gain traction by producing stuff in-house.
Their big purchase was the Tower of God adaptation, but they wanted a few smaller stuff as well. I believe High Guardian Spice was intended to show investors that they also had western stuff in the portfolio as a means of getting them on board to later allow for things similar to Dragon Prince to be produced by them.
High Guardian Spice on paper was a pretty good project and Rey is a very talented artist, even if a lot of the character designs are more inspired by other things than others. The biggest problems came from just how badly managed it was.
If the announcement trailer was a sizzle real explaining then project instead of the most unlikeable group of people sitting at a table talking down to the audience, it would have played better, and I’d the writing could decide if it was going to be childish or serious it would have been less jarring.
This was just an unfortunate casualty that could have worked and been reasonably popular with better management. So my honest belief was that it was always meant to be a throwaway
This: it's like HGS was a sacrificial trash along with Velma and TLM 2023: https://youtu.be/DUziUNg8LTw?si=ojKrFh2WwH1fVjiK
>sacrificial trash
"Sacrificial Trash" is just "Not real socialism!" for wannabe progressive tastemakers when their culture war products fail. It's cope.
It would still have the problem of branding, and the notion that crunchyroll sub money is going to tokyopop-america, and even worse, to people who are actively hostile to the fanbase.
Because the people involved are hostile racists who have no respect for my culture, and I shouldn't give them a pass just because they're on the left instead of the right? This isn't simply fapping. In any case, the activists in question who worked on this show want to go after hentai commissions and sites that host that as well.
>coomer with standards
>things similar to Dragon Prince
LoL, that series killed its own fan base.
Yes but this is before those morons did that
The branding was simple “we are funding our own originals from the international scene with anime inspirations for appeal to a broader audience and diversify our offerings to have more than what you can get for free from fan subs.”
TokyoPop America and Yen Press both sold themselves on the idea that country didn’t matter. If your project for the spirit and values of anime, it was good enough to be published with them.
The problem with those two was that it was a scam with shit contracts.
The problem with Crunchyroll is that they didn’t know how to properly manage productions and decided to focus solely on making Tower of God a success, even though the built in mega fandom ensured it would be
>“we are funding our own originals from the international scene with anime inspirations for appeal to a broader audience and diversify our offerings to have more than what you can get for free from fan subs.”
Which directly conflicts with their previous branding.
Tokyopop america and Yen press had the relative advantage that their offerings were ala carte. Also, you should check the popularity of those offerings from both brands with CR's customer base. I bet they had a terrible rep. THAT's a key problem.
I do agree with you that their productions were also a clusterfrick.
It want a conflict, it was an attempt at expanding their brand from just redistributing anime to redistributing anime and producing original animated content, similar to how Netflix does it.
They just dropped the ball in conveying this to their subscribers. I don’t think anyone would have been angry if they were just open about it
I strongly disagree. Weeaboos would have been mad as frick if they openly tried to change crunchyroll to netflix.
They wouldn’t have. It would have made them try their hardest tog et their own show made by CR
Bro, I don't think you understand the anime fanbase at all.
Most of them would want money like that to go towards adapting a manga/LN/video game they really like.
I don’t think you understand that the hardcore anime fanbase aren't the people paying for crunchy roll, those people are watching fan subs
Strawman
moron
>I don’t think you understand that the hardcore anime fanbase aren't the people paying for crunchy roll
The people paying for Crunchyroll do it because they want anime, they don't give a frick about some shitty cartoon made by white people.
Hence why, again, all of Crunchyroll's in-house cartoons have flopped.
As was stated previously, the anime fanbase isn't starved for content, they have no reason to watch a cartoon when there's so much anime out there that they could be watching instead.
Wait a second, are you going to try to say the crunchyroll subscriber base is NOT anime fans? I get that your'e distinguishing between the hardcore fansub only crowd. How would you describe them if not anime fans?
No I’m saying they’re not the hardcore anime fans
Are you implying that only the hardcore fans would want adaptations of works they like?
If so, you might be moronic.
Not what I’m saying at all. Crunchyroll as a company never claimed it was going to produce anime of its own. But it did need to diversify to stay relevant. It making its own animated projects didn’t “take money away from anime” or “take money promises to go to anime”
And I believe the core audience would have been more receptive to their projects had they introduced them better.
It was the sjw circle jerk trailer that damned this show
>But it did need to diversify to stay relevant
Clearly it didn't, which is why they backpedaled and have since exclusively funded anime, including 2 seasons of that vending machine isekai.
Crunchyroll trying to branch out into streaming cartoons is just as dumb as Steam trying to branch out into selling movies, no one uses their platform for that.
They might have been fine with it if it was like Japanese Netflix with a bunch of general nip shows along with anime.
It doesn't matter now since Crunchyroll is basically FUNimation now since Sony owns both and change FUNi name to Crunchyroll. Sony owns nearly half the anime in the US....Jesus...
I watched one episode of this and it's actually better than the average anime.
Is this the new begging for HGS porn thread?
wanna stick my tongue up Rose's meaty butthole and pull her thighs hard around my head
No, but there will be plenty of space, if you can attract a drawgay.
I don't buy this argument. The people who made this shit have a long track record.
What would they have rathered?
Anime gays want their witches looking like pic-related.
Hat's not big enough.
They can be flat too. The chest is actually much less important than the hats
Driving through comicet with an itachari full of money, throwing it at skilled, but relatively unknown doujin makers to give them a shot.
The problem from day one was the production and funding. And as always, the opinion of the show is made by the viewers. I vaguely recall people wanting to fill the blond fat one with sperm from day one.
After it came out, for a short while everyone seemed insistent that this show was worse than Hitler. Then people quieted down and somehow it even seemed to get genuine enjoyers.
they didnt care. CR goal was just to push their soulless nonsense because they had the budget to do so.
if they could have their own show and sell tons of its merchandise, that would be huge for their business so there was an attempt. nothing weird about that.
you sound like you want to think it failed because weebs would just hate it but no, it was more of a skill issue. look at how some chinese companies make tons of money by copying weeb shit even in the west.
>look at how some chinese companies make tons of money by copying weeb shit even in the west.
China and Korea understand what it is people like about anime and associated mediums (for the most part).
Pic related is from a Chinese game, do you think Americans would EVER design a character like this?
skill issue. it doesn't have to be coomer shit.
homie, how do you think those Chinese and Korean properties make all that money?
Are you moronic?
Anon's right, Americans will never be able to accomplish something similar because you have no sense of aesthetic.
Americans manage to have properties that outsell nipshit and even when they don't have infinite redos because they own the industry.Not mention when they censor it for Western audiences
>Americans manage to have properties that outsell nipshit
I can't remember the last American property to have decent-selling merchandise.
Maybe Cars?
Really you just forgot all about the MCU?
MCU merch doesn't sell for shit, frick are you smoking?
Especially nowadays.
Most of the revenue for the MCU comes from box office sales and home video sales.
Pokemon outsells all american franchises combined.
homie you are just coping like other americans. If they could make something that has ATLA/Boondocks-tier quality of pseudo anime, they could have gotten away with it and americans would have eaten it up at the end of the day.
making coomer shit is just the easiest way.
>If they could make something that has ATLA/Boondocks-tier quality of pseudo anime
It would have flopped because no one cares about those properties besides Americans.
it's enough for them if americans cared
Not really.
America alone is no longer a big enough market to sustain an industry, if it was then the American animation and comic industries wouldn't be in the states they are now, since they only appeal to Americans and no one else (and only a subset of Americans at that).
>America alone is no longer a big enough market to sustain an industry
cap
it would have been enough for a small show. i'm not talking about the whole industry and the biggest reason why it flopped miserably was skill issue and not anything else
It flopped because it was a show made for cartoongays on a service made for animegays.
Same reason all the other Crunchyroll original cartoons flopped.
No one who uses an anime streaming service goes there to watch cartoons, they go there for anime, period.
cope
Dope.
But it sure isn’t gay like the shit you frickers consume
i don't really consume anything like cartoons and video games
ToT
Sure it's a skill issue, but a big chunk of that skill issue is the emphasis and priorites of the production, and the experience. They could have picked a Tradd Moore or Fred Perry, or Adam Warren. They could have picked people who didn';t hate their existing fanbase.
>They could have picked a Tradd Moore or Fred Perry, or Adam Warren
ok dad rock.
Libs have the worst foresight for consequences of their choices
It was probably greenlit during the shitty Steven Universe/Undertale tumblr era when they thought anything pastel and gay would get received with open arms.
Then that moment passed, western animation became irrelevant, weebs got higher standards, and this turned into the shitshow it did.
Sex with Olive
Marriage with Olive
Starting a family with Olive
There's a guy who drew Honey the Cat as Olive and it's megabased
This show is exactly what an out of touch corporate executive think anime is: a cartoon but with like violence and blood
People were mad because Crunchyroll claimed their sub fees would go towards commissioning their own anime and other Asian animation. People who naturally expected this were mad when HGS was revealed, not only because it was American but because the reveal trailer was essentially lecturing them and the show itself looked to be putting more effort into pursuing the Steven Universe audience than anything anime-like.
Yeah. That trailer fricked up any chance of the show being accepted.
there would be multiple reasons why it flopped miserably, ''weebs don't want west shit on crunchyroll'' is one thing, but before anything else, it's garbage
some people would have changed their mind if it was actually interesting but it's garbage. face it and move on
Crunchyroll is a company well known for their moronation on a mass scale. Why just recently they decided to absorb RightStuf, a successful anime/manga store they already owned.
Literally all they had to do was let it operate independently and they would have continued to made gangbusters from the excellent deals and early shipping. But lol nope we need to satiate our ego, can't have something under us without searing our name into it.
YOU'LL WILL START POSTING NSFW RIGHT NOW!!
Gib Dwarf Gf
Finally, a good post
silly dwarf she would make a good fortress.
Money
You still watched it.
They want the SU fanbase
Steven Universe was popular when it went into production.
An entirely white staff of women let's them claim "diversity".
That's all.
This show is just blantly shit, for Weebs that subscribed to Crunchyroll its shitty western cartoon and not a Anime thats actually good(also doesint help that they subscribed cause Crunchyroll promised that the money would go to support the artists that make the anime, not make a whole new and different show) and for anyone who wasint a weeb, ie people who mostly watch Western cartoons or a casual anime watcher, it was just fricking dog shit.
>Crunchyroll promised that the money would go to support the artists that make the anime, not make a whole new and different show
This is not true at all. I feel like this argument must have come from some moronic youtuber and people started running with it. Crunchyroll said they directly pay studios with some of their profits. They do, it’s called licensing the anime directly from them. Crunchyroll never said they would exclusively fund only Japanese productions, and no one subbed to Crunchyroll exclusively because they believed it would lead to more anime.
It’s also not like the existence of HGS meant an anime didn’t get made. Crunchyroll wasn’t looking to fund a full scale anime, they were funding an assortment of shows to start their production side. Netflix also didn’t start with funding the anime then currently do. Hell, look at adult swim. It took them almost 20 years to start funding anime directly despite it being a major draw for their network.
The whole “they took money meant for anime and made a cartoon” was a bullshit argument that never had any basis in reality
A better example is when CARTOON network started to put live action shows on. The other examples never had the expectation of the fanbase. This is independent of any youtuber claims.
LOL. Anon's right to not let politics get in the way of his enjoyment, but in this case, the political frickheads made the show in the first place.
Yes, CN Real was Ana cruel betrayal and it’s why so many top talent left
>"No one subbed to an anime streaming service so that they would have more money to license and translate anime they want to see, they clearly did it so they have more capital to make their own non-anime content and for their shitty conventions."
>show has a canon c**tboy
>literally no (0) porn
what kinda joke world is this
they belong to sony and sony wants a monopoly on anime, so they want the west creating their own anime
>REEEEEE WHY ARE ANIME FANS MAD WHEN THEY DON’T GET ANIME WHEN THEY PAY FOR ANIME
>Okay, but who's actually gonna watch this?
>Watch?