He came from a shitty life as a slave, met a father figure that died a couple of days after, got separated from his mom and his waifu, then raised by a sassy scotsman, I'd be mad too
>shapeshifter >never uses shapeshifting to her advantage in battle
What was the point of this detail again? I thought it would have been cooler if she used this power to change into a different person at the club to attack Obi Wan. Feels like wasted potential for a cool bounty hunter.
Obi-Wan's strict as frick with him. No shit Anakin's got a chip on his shoulder. Dude's Force Jesus and he knows it. Yet he's constantly being held back from achieving his full potential. Plus, his mom died. He had visions of her death for weeks, but Obi-Wan told him to not worry about them. That's why he was b***hing about Obi-Wan. Dude not only had to watch his mom die in his arms, but he felt her die through the Force.
You can make a flawed character and have them not be completely evil. Anakin's problem is he isn't heroic or likable so when he does do morally questionable stuff it just comes off as evil and self serving. You have to get the audience to agree/like the character for them to understand why they do the things they do. Anakin doesn't do any of that, he just whines about his friends behind their backs and throws toddler tantrums when things don't go his way.
's problem is he isn't heroic or likable >He is
When? >was it when he cries about how much he hates his mentor and father figure who sacrificed much of his own life to raise him? >when he ignores good advice and does whatever the frick he wants? >was it when he went on a megalomaniacal rant about how he hates children? >was it when he wanted to risk the lives of everyone on the gunship because he was simping for padme? >was it when he killed hundred of children over a nightmare? >was it when he sided with space satan? >was it when he killed an order devoted to peace and justice? >was it when he tried to kill his best friend?
He almost never shows any heroic qualities, him being good is usually the exception and not the norm.
>was it when he cries about how much he hates his mentor and father figure who sacrificed much of his own life to raise him?
Define "raise". >when he ignores good advice and does whatever the frick he wants?
A lot of the advice he gets is shit. WHat are you talking about? >was it when he went on a megalomaniacal rant about how he hates children?
Now you're just making shit up. >was it when he wanted to risk the lives of everyone on the gunship because he was simping for padme?
That's the love of his life, dude. Most guys would do the same shit. >was it when he killed hundred of children over a nightmare?
He had visions of his mom dying and they came true. Of course he'd believe the visions about Padme were legit. >was it when he sided with space satan?
To save the life of his wife and child. >was it when he killed an order devoted to peace and justice?
The Jedi lost the right to to that claim after the war. >was it when he tried to kill his best friend?
Because he was trying to kill him.
>Define "raise".
He was his master, he literally taught him how to use the force? >A lot of the advice he gets is shit. WHat are you talking about?
He is told that allowing hate to flow through him will cause suffering. This is said in a universe where doing good and evil effect you mentally and physically. >Now you're just making shit up.
The sand people were evil but he clearly is fine with killing children and the defenseless if it benefits him in some way >That's the love of his life, dude. Most guys would do the same shit.
He's not supposed to fall in love. the Jedi kept warning him and he didn't listen. His emotions would cloud his judgement and it led to his downfall. >He had visions of his mom dying and they came true. Of course he'd believe the visions about Padme were legit.
His plan to save his wife relied on doing the dirty work of a man who orchestrated a war and had tried to kill his wife twice >To save the life of his wife and child.
See point above, he was desperate but trusting a known liar who was more than willing to use people and then throw them away the second their usefulness had worn out (Anakin literally saw this first hand with dooku) is completely nonsensical. >The Jedi lost the right to to that claim after the war.
Why? The jedi were attempting to stop a traitor who orchestrated a civil war which killed billion and was designed to make him emperor of the galaxy. The separatists are a bunch of hypocrites who wanted to leave because of "muh corporations oppressing us" while also having said corporations fund their army. >Because he was trying to kill him.
His friend gave him several chances to stand down and he immeidatly went in to attack.
While it might be splitting hairs, that story does feature Dredd giving in and ordering the dead wife to be given a burial on city expense rather than going into the recycle grinder.
99% of the anakin hate stems from people who wanted anakin to be the edgy badass they imagined when they were children
lucas even states in a tpm interview that we disliked that idea and wanted anakin to initially be shown as a good kid, because if we first meet him and he already has the darkness within him that makes him turning into vader inevitable, instead of a tragedy
99% of the anakin hate stems from people who wanted anakin to be the edgy badass they imagined when they were children
lucas even states in a tpm interview that we disliked that idea and wanted anakin to initially be shown as a good kid, because if we first meet him and he already has the darkness within him that makes him turning into vader inevitable, instead of a tragedy
>99% of the anakin hate stems from people who wanted anakin to be the edgy badass
It's really more like this. See how The Clone Wars's plebeian-friendly of Anakin is what many cite as the best version of him.
>So they hate Anakin for being too human?
That's an oversimplification. It's more the kind of "humanity" that doesn't lend itself well to hero worship. There are plenty of real life guys who are like TCW Anakin. They are tremendously easier to understand and even relate to than the kind of guy that Anakin represents (who is also rarer irl).
They hate Anakin's particular psychology and behavioral patterns and can neither empathize nor sympathize with him on the basis of his upbringing. It's moreso their own lack of empathy and understanding that make them dislike Anakin.
Anakin represents the type of young man who suffers from anomie despite having supreme potential for greatness, and who was improperly socialized.
He's not supposed to be a traditional hero, he's supposed to be someone whose greatness depends upon his capacity for violence and his struggles to maintain his morals against innumerable toils and conflicts.
This kind of person is often shunned by society in one way or another, hence why you find him "unlikeable". It's true to life.
hayden is fantastic at non verbal acting, iirc is why george got him to be anakin to begin with
not to say he did a bad job asides from that, i just think some of the more hokey acting across the board in the prequels is george trying to emulate an older acting style and the younger actors and trouble with it
the older actors, like ian mcdiarmid and christopher lee understood the style and were great
If you want to bring balance to your body you don't let cancer fester. It is in fact not part of the balance in your body.
The "Light Side" is a meme. There is only the Force and the Dark Side is an ultimately self-destroying disease. It's just that there were so many stupid people who didnt get this, writers included, that this videogame good points bad points syste, was brought in.
That's how most teenagers act when they have authority and power on their side
>fpbp
People who don’t see how cringey and immature teenagers can be haven’t developed out if it themselves
fpbp
>superiority complex
>supressed by authority
>autistic and with raging hormones
he just made it realistic
>it's bad on purpose!!!
Dude, just take the L and admit that you didn't pay attention for shit with these movies.
Face it. He blew you the frick out.
nta, no he didn't
you guys would lose your mind about how people found love in the 50’s. ask your grandpa how he met your grandma.
killing a bunch of sandpeople?
Yes
but my grandparents aren't israeli
upvoted. take all my gold, sir. israelites are so heckin unbased.
he's supposed to be evil
He wasn’t evil yet though
>kills women and children
>not evil
I’m talking about the beginning of Attack Of The Clones
He came from a shitty life as a slave, met a father figure that died a couple of days after, got separated from his mom and his waifu, then raised by a sassy scotsman, I'd be mad too
They’re not people
oh yeah you're right he doesn't have a red lightsaber yet. he's still good.
Anakin was never evil.
>*slices off the head of multiple children*
Anakin was always an unlikeable creep especially in the OT
>shapeshifter
>never uses shapeshifting to her advantage in battle
What was the point of this detail again? I thought it would have been cooler if she used this power to change into a different person at the club to attack Obi Wan. Feels like wasted potential for a cool bounty hunter.
She has to touch them to turn into them.
She'd still be wearing the same clothes you dumb bawd
>wears lightsaber resistant armorweave
>still gets her hand cut off
>his tiny jetpack
The whole bounty hunter mystery segment of the movie is what really ruins Attack Of The Clones's rewatchability
You already know what's going to happen so the mystery is gone, and then how it goes down doesn't hit right enough to be sufficient as a spectacle
He's not unlikable, nor a creep. The average person would think he's fine. It's only nerds who have the problem.
>average person would be fine with him sperging out about his boss out of nowhere
Anyone who works will b***h about their boss or whatever co-worker. Shit's inevitable.
They usually don’t have a big spergout about their boss while talking to their crush they haven’t seen in a decade.
His mom just fricking died.
He sperged out to Padme before that
>trashy space diner waitress
Diamonds
That looks like an old sears catalog
>ywn eat Hermione Bagwa's chow
>boots for toxic kitchen sludge
She looks like that Oompa Loompa from that crack factory.
To make it believable for him to turn into Vader
Obi-Wan's strict as frick with him. No shit Anakin's got a chip on his shoulder. Dude's Force Jesus and he knows it. Yet he's constantly being held back from achieving his full potential. Plus, his mom died. He had visions of her death for weeks, but Obi-Wan told him to not worry about them. That's why he was b***hing about Obi-Wan. Dude not only had to watch his mom die in his arms, but he felt her die through the Force.
The hate on Anakin just proves to me that manchildren don't want flawed characters, but boyscout hero types who always do right.
Hi Rian
You can make a flawed character and have them not be completely evil. Anakin's problem is he isn't heroic or likable so when he does do morally questionable stuff it just comes off as evil and self serving. You have to get the audience to agree/like the character for them to understand why they do the things they do. Anakin doesn't do any of that, he just whines about his friends behind their backs and throws toddler tantrums when things don't go his way.
>Anakin's problem is he isn't heroic or likable
He is, you just a problem with the prequels from the get-go which colors your perception of it.
's problem is he isn't heroic or likable
>He is
When?
>was it when he cries about how much he hates his mentor and father figure who sacrificed much of his own life to raise him?
>when he ignores good advice and does whatever the frick he wants?
>was it when he went on a megalomaniacal rant about how he hates children?
>was it when he wanted to risk the lives of everyone on the gunship because he was simping for padme?
>was it when he killed hundred of children over a nightmare?
>was it when he sided with space satan?
>was it when he killed an order devoted to peace and justice?
>was it when he tried to kill his best friend?
He almost never shows any heroic qualities, him being good is usually the exception and not the norm.
i haven't watched the PT in over 15 years and i can still tell that your surface-level analysis is so basic it hurts
>was it when he cries about how much he hates his mentor and father figure who sacrificed much of his own life to raise him?
Define "raise".
>when he ignores good advice and does whatever the frick he wants?
A lot of the advice he gets is shit. WHat are you talking about?
>was it when he went on a megalomaniacal rant about how he hates children?
Now you're just making shit up.
>was it when he wanted to risk the lives of everyone on the gunship because he was simping for padme?
That's the love of his life, dude. Most guys would do the same shit.
>was it when he killed hundred of children over a nightmare?
He had visions of his mom dying and they came true. Of course he'd believe the visions about Padme were legit.
>was it when he sided with space satan?
To save the life of his wife and child.
>was it when he killed an order devoted to peace and justice?
The Jedi lost the right to to that claim after the war.
>was it when he tried to kill his best friend?
Because he was trying to kill him.
>Define "raise".
He was his master, he literally taught him how to use the force?
>A lot of the advice he gets is shit. WHat are you talking about?
He is told that allowing hate to flow through him will cause suffering. This is said in a universe where doing good and evil effect you mentally and physically.
>Now you're just making shit up.
The sand people were evil but he clearly is fine with killing children and the defenseless if it benefits him in some way
>That's the love of his life, dude. Most guys would do the same shit.
He's not supposed to fall in love. the Jedi kept warning him and he didn't listen. His emotions would cloud his judgement and it led to his downfall.
>He had visions of his mom dying and they came true. Of course he'd believe the visions about Padme were legit.
His plan to save his wife relied on doing the dirty work of a man who orchestrated a war and had tried to kill his wife twice
>To save the life of his wife and child.
See point above, he was desperate but trusting a known liar who was more than willing to use people and then throw them away the second their usefulness had worn out (Anakin literally saw this first hand with dooku) is completely nonsensical.
>The Jedi lost the right to to that claim after the war.
Why? The jedi were attempting to stop a traitor who orchestrated a civil war which killed billion and was designed to make him emperor of the galaxy. The separatists are a bunch of hypocrites who wanted to leave because of "muh corporations oppressing us" while also having said corporations fund their army.
>Because he was trying to kill him.
His friend gave him several chances to stand down and he immeidatly went in to attack.
While it might be splitting hairs, that story does feature Dredd giving in and ordering the dead wife to be given a burial on city expense rather than going into the recycle grinder.
99% of the anakin hate stems from people who wanted anakin to be the edgy badass they imagined when they were children
lucas even states in a tpm interview that we disliked that idea and wanted anakin to initially be shown as a good kid, because if we first meet him and he already has the darkness within him that makes him turning into vader inevitable, instead of a tragedy
I remember one guy hated the ending to RotS because it wasn't Vader being badass and killing dudes like in Rogue One. This was a Gen Xer by the way.
>tragedy
>could've been prevented by the jedi at numerous junctions
not really
>99% of the anakin hate stems from people who wanted anakin to be the edgy badass
It's really more like this. See how The Clone Wars's plebeian-friendly of Anakin is what many cite as the best version of him.
So they hate Anakin for being too human?
>So they hate Anakin for being too human?
That's an oversimplification. It's more the kind of "humanity" that doesn't lend itself well to hero worship. There are plenty of real life guys who are like TCW Anakin. They are tremendously easier to understand and even relate to than the kind of guy that Anakin represents (who is also rarer irl).
They hate Anakin's particular psychology and behavioral patterns and can neither empathize nor sympathize with him on the basis of his upbringing. It's moreso their own lack of empathy and understanding that make them dislike Anakin.
watch the RLM reviews
Red letter media explains why. Watch their videos.
>Reddit letter media
Hey Mike, shouldn’t you be slouched over a barstool slugging over your 6th lager with pub cheese on your face? It’s past noon on a Saturday
that's what port does to a mf
>Uninjured Vader
VGH, WHAT COULD'VE BEEN
>kills the emperor
>claims the Empire as his own
>invites Luke and Leia to rule the galaxy with him once he discovers their existence
This only works if he kills Obi-Wan first. Luke and Leia would be with him from the start.
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Idk for some reason, I feel like Emperor Anakins empire would be similar to Krayts.
This begs the question of what Vader's Empire would have been like.
The need to connect to The Original Trilogy ruined Revenge Of The Sith's momentum.
Darth Vader would have been a more interesting character if it was uninjured Anakin.
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How unfortunate
little anakin was insanely cute shota hot
kys pederast
>m’lady
George made Anakin into a blast shield tipper
Anakin represents the type of young man who suffers from anomie despite having supreme potential for greatness, and who was improperly socialized.
He's not supposed to be a traditional hero, he's supposed to be someone whose greatness depends upon his capacity for violence and his struggles to maintain his morals against innumerable toils and conflicts.
This kind of person is often shunned by society in one way or another, hence why you find him "unlikeable". It's true to life.
Anakin was so much better in ROTS than AOTC it’s crazy
Before the Disney era AotC was always the absolute worst Star Wars movie
It's also his best look. Definitely has that Lucifer vibe.
Revenge Of The Sith is just the better film. Hayden did fantastic in both ROTS and AOTC.
What the FRICK, George?
It was the 2000s. Edge was in.
hayden is fantastic at non verbal acting, iirc is why george got him to be anakin to begin with
not to say he did a bad job asides from that, i just think some of the more hokey acting across the board in the prequels is george trying to emulate an older acting style and the younger actors and trouble with it
the older actors, like ian mcdiarmid and christopher lee understood the style and were great
I don't know how anyone could pull off the "I don't like sand" scene
Why did the Jedi want to bring "balance to the force" when the jedi clearly had more power than the sith?
If you want to bring balance to your body you don't let cancer fester. It is in fact not part of the balance in your body.
The "Light Side" is a meme. There is only the Force and the Dark Side is an ultimately self-destroying disease. It's just that there were so many stupid people who didnt get this, writers included, that this videogame good points bad points syste, was brought in.
He was his self-insert.