>First 15 minutes was in a foreign language with subtitles so a lot of people thought it was a foreign film and walked out >The title's misleading and led people to think it was going to be a supernatural film >Released next to fricking Star Wars >Came out around the same time as Exorcist 2, a movie which briefly made the original Exorcist a complete joke (before it was almost completely forgotten and The Exorcist became respectable again) >Was a co-production between 2 different studios, Universal and Paramount, once it bombed no one could be bothered to figure out who actually owned the rights and it got lost in legal limbo for a few decades >Got re-edited for a foreign release, cutting the opening half hour and adding a happy ending. Thus it never got reappraised by foreign audiences like in Europe >Plus: downer ending. I love it but goddamn is that ending fricking brutal and apparently that led to bad word of mouth at the time
Apprently when adjusted for inflation, Gone With The Wind is still the most profitable and popular movie ever made. Star Wars is #2 though (and that's specifically just the original 1977 movie, not even including the sequels)
I dragged some friends to a cinema screening it a while ago and I had to convince them it was really Das Boot with trucks and not a fantasy movie.
I think the publishers knew the name was dumb and spoiled the iconic scene on the poster to show that it wasn't about wizards
I thought the 1953 film was a lot better. Wages of Fear's characters are far more charming and interesting, and so the setpieces are more tense. I really have no clue why Sorcerer wastes so much time setting up those relentlessly boring characters.
Sorcerer has better action, Wages of fear has better characters and overall a better script
Sorcerer is shot more documentary-style like Friedkin's French Connection, Wages of Fear has more classical staging and composition. IMO Sorcerer wins in the visuals department as you are able to immerse yourself in South America's dense jungle, in Wages of Fear the most you get is some out of place bamboo forest.
I thought the 1953 film was a lot better. Wages of Fear's characters are far more charming and interesting, and so the setpieces are more tense. I really have no clue why Sorcerer wastes so much time setting up those relentlessly boring characters.
i've watched wages of fear and enjoyed it but i think sorcerer just pips it but i'm bias i love the old 70's sweat kino movies
>hear about a movie called Warlock, go to watch it >it's actually a generic western with Henry Fonda and Anthony Quinn in a town inexplicably called Warlock, there is no magic or anything remotely related to the term >hear about a movie called Sorceror, go to watch it >it's actually a movie about a truck inexplicably called Sorceror, there is no magic or anything remotely related to the term
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
>hear about a movie called The Wizard, go watch it >it's actually a family movie about an autistic kid that runs away from home to travel across America to enter a video game tournament
>Funny enough the Mr. Plow episode actually has a reference to Sorcerer
39 years old. Both of those (You)s were at me. All these years later I'm still getting new Simpsons info. Is the music from that scene also from Sorceror?
I have to watch this film now.
I don't know but I wish someone would made a live action Gundam movie and make a scene where they're assembling it with similar visuals to them putting the trucks together. I think about this about twice a week
Yeah, like that. But I know Everytime Japan does a live action one, it's CGI, and I don't think the US would be any different. If we could get that and a The Book of the New Sun adaption filmed in south America I'd be complete.
>audiences expecting mystical weirdness a la The Exorcist walked out of theaters, which in turn forced distributors to put ads that Sorcerer was 'NOT A FILM ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL'. Audiences at the time were either bored with yet another film about exorcisms or that was precisely what they wanted and upon seeing the movie, they got confused, asking themselves "where's the devil?"
>Furthermore, the opening sixteen minutes contain no English language, which made the audiences think that it was a foreign subtitled film, and caused walk-outs. Consequently, this prompted movie theatres to put a disclaimer on lobby cards asserting that for the most part, it was an English-language film: >YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE. To dramatize the diverse backgrounds of the principal characters in 'Sorcerer', two of the opening sequences were filmed in the appropriate foreign languages – with sub-titles in English. Other than these opening scenes, 'Sorcerer' is an English language film. >— Disclaimer put on Sorcerer lobby placards.
Because the majority of audiences, even back in the 70s, were peabrained room temperature IQ morons that couldn't comprehend the mastery of storytelling they were witnessing. 70s audiences just wanted to consoom pornslop and jiveslop.
>First 15 minutes was in a foreign language with subtitles so a lot of people thought it was a foreign film and walked out
>The title's misleading and led people to think it was going to be a supernatural film
>Released next to fricking Star Wars
>Came out around the same time as Exorcist 2, a movie which briefly made the original Exorcist a complete joke (before it was almost completely forgotten and The Exorcist became respectable again)
>Was a co-production between 2 different studios, Universal and Paramount, once it bombed no one could be bothered to figure out who actually owned the rights and it got lost in legal limbo for a few decades
>Got re-edited for a foreign release, cutting the opening half hour and adding a happy ending. Thus it never got reappraised by foreign audiences like in Europe
>Plus: downer ending. I love it but goddamn is that ending fricking brutal and apparently that led to bad word of mouth at the time
>Got re-edited for a foreign release, cutting the opening half hour and adding a happy ending
what happy ending?
>what happy ending?
They got their wages paid in money instead of fear.
You funny guy
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This is real. They just cut to Roy Schneider flying away on a helicopter lmao
it had a stupid name and released a month after the most popular film ever made
Apprently when adjusted for inflation, Gone With The Wind is still the most profitable and popular movie ever made. Star Wars is #2 though (and that's specifically just the original 1977 movie, not even including the sequels)
Yeah, the name was kinda stupid.
I dragged some friends to a cinema screening it a while ago and I had to convince them it was really Das Boot with trucks and not a fantasy movie.
I think the publishers knew the name was dumb and spoiled the iconic scene on the poster to show that it wasn't about wizards
>TRUCKS
much better. Now Americans won't get confused
Wages of Fear is one of the best film titles of all time, the new choice was way to bold.
It failed then so it could succeed now.
Roy Schneider is an ugly unlikable lead.
Such a good actor, though. Imagine Rob Redford in that role fricking up the performance
lol he's my favourite actor form time period probably with hackman just below
based, my two favorites actors of all time tbqh
70's was a great period for movies have you watched "night moves"?
early 80's private detective movie starring hackman
Yeah, Jaws might have been successful without him in the lead. Wait...
no taste homosexual
Cuz it was mid, fr fr.
It's good but the Wages of Fear is better.
Misguided marketing/title/release timing
Because Rain Kino wasn't a genre back then.
I guarantee a lot of people wondered if they were in the right movie during the start. They should have started with the Roy Scheider intro tbh.
I thought the 1953 film was a lot better. Wages of Fear's characters are far more charming and interesting, and so the setpieces are more tense. I really have no clue why Sorcerer wastes so much time setting up those relentlessly boring characters.
I just watched both back to back an hour ago
Sorcerer has better action, Wages of fear has better characters and overall a better script
Sorcerer is shot more documentary-style like Friedkin's French Connection, Wages of Fear has more classical staging and composition. IMO Sorcerer wins in the visuals department as you are able to immerse yourself in South America's dense jungle, in Wages of Fear the most you get is some out of place bamboo forest.
>setpieces
I'll never understand why they thought bandits were a good replacement for the oil crater sequence.
Watch the original. It's fantastic.
i've watched wages of fear and enjoyed it but i think sorcerer just pips it but i'm bias i love the old 70's sweat kino movies
>hear about a movie called Warlock, go to watch it
>it's actually a generic western with Henry Fonda and Anthony Quinn in a town inexplicably called Warlock, there is no magic or anything remotely related to the term
>hear about a movie called Sorceror, go to watch it
>it's actually a movie about a truck inexplicably called Sorceror, there is no magic or anything remotely related to the term
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
yo'ull get over it
>hear about a movie called The Wizard, go watch it
>it's actually a family movie about an autistic kid that runs away from home to travel across America to enter a video game tournament
Alternatively
i love that movie
Funny enough the Mr. Plow episode actually has a reference to Sorcerer
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>Funny enough the Mr. Plow episode actually has a reference to Sorcerer
39 years old. Both of those (You)s were at me. All these years later I'm still getting new Simpsons info. Is the music from that scene also from Sorceror?
I have to watch this film now.
lol I was literally just talking about classic Simpsons a second ago. Frick I should really rewatch some of the old seasons
>Movie is called Hillbilly genocide
>There are technically still hillbillies after the movie ends
looks like the bridge was poorly maintained. The weight of that vehicle was probably too much for it.
I don't know but I wish someone would made a live action Gundam movie and make a scene where they're assembling it with similar visuals to them putting the trucks together. I think about this about twice a week
Yeah, like that. But I know Everytime Japan does a live action one, it's CGI, and I don't think the US would be any different. If we could get that and a The Book of the New Sun adaption filmed in south America I'd be complete.
>audiences expecting mystical weirdness a la The Exorcist walked out of theaters, which in turn forced distributors to put ads that Sorcerer was 'NOT A FILM ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL'. Audiences at the time were either bored with yet another film about exorcisms or that was precisely what they wanted and upon seeing the movie, they got confused, asking themselves "where's the devil?"
>Furthermore, the opening sixteen minutes contain no English language, which made the audiences think that it was a foreign subtitled film, and caused walk-outs. Consequently, this prompted movie theatres to put a disclaimer on lobby cards asserting that for the most part, it was an English-language film:
>YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE. To dramatize the diverse backgrounds of the principal characters in 'Sorcerer', two of the opening sequences were filmed in the appropriate foreign languages – with sub-titles in English. Other than these opening scenes, 'Sorcerer' is an English language film.
>— Disclaimer put on Sorcerer lobby placards.
Why are Americans like this?
>Why are Americans like this?
Like what? Based beyond belief? Frick your turd world language.
Too kino and depressing for audiences the same week as Star Wars, a real shame because I absolutely love both films.
Frick man I miss Friedkin.
Because the majority of audiences, even back in the 70s, were peabrained room temperature IQ morons that couldn't comprehend the mastery of storytelling they were witnessing. 70s audiences just wanted to consoom pornslop and jiveslop.