Why did it flop? Are the reviews fake?
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Turned out nobody really wanted a Suicide Squad sequel, and nobody really wanted to see Harley without Joker. Especially not in a Covid year.
The first movie was a huge hit. People wanted a Suicide Squad sequel, not a reboot. But it's true that people don't want to see Harlwy without Joker
>The first movie was a huge hit.
The trailers made it look like Teh Joker was a main character in it.
Because, despite the negative reviews and fanboys crying, Suicide Squad was a popular movie with normies. TSS shout itself in the foot when it was a semi-reboot and to make it worse, it waited too long for a sequel. The normies hyped for more Suicide Squad were alienated by Gunn's homosexualry. It didn't help BoP already sullied the brand. Harley only sells as Joker's girlfriend
The first movie had better music.
Not
okay after watching both the 2021/2016 back to back, I'd say the 2021 movie is balanced better. I like the beginning of the 2016 movie but after 20 minutes there's a lack of direction and everything felt pointless. In the 2021 one, the progression is better. There was a real narrative and I did end up caring about the characters more. The 3rd act was far FAR better.
2016 is a moronic plot and a shitty villain (two of them really).
It flopped? Why did Peacemaker get a TV show?
Because it was already in production when the movie came out.
Wasn't this released on HBO Max at the same time it was in theaters?
Theaters were closed so I think they released it on HBO first. Same thing happened with that shitty Matrix and Dune
They released it in the theaters and on streaming at the same time. Because of Covid and all of the other bullshit going on at the time, a lot of people opted to watch it at home.
It depends on what part of the country you were in. Some areas opened up before others.
I saw both The Matrix and Dune in theaters. In fact, i saw Dune at the WB studio lot in a Q&A before it premiered on HBO Max or in theaters, but all three were day and date just like the other anon pointed out.
Just because you live by a cesspool that has no first run theaters is no excuse to lie, son.
>besides DC and WB who seem convinced the team can be a thing, even though it’s flopped time and time again.
Very much this.
Peacemaker itself is only a marginal success, not much more successful than say Titans or Doom Patrol and if Gunn didn't have a boner for his collection, essentially, of OC manchildren, and the suits at DISCO not having a current boner for Gunn, it wouldn't have necessarily gotten a second season.
>hell to pay
>would be great for adaptation as a premium TV series
There are actually a healthy number of comic book runs in DC history that would make great adaptations for premium (prestige) streaming, cable, etc.
But guess what? The days of anyone paying for that in unlimited amounts are long over and not coming back in at least the next decade.
Unless someone like Netflix is willing to license it or someone with really deep pockets like Prime will pay for it - don't expect it.
Instead, you'll get a few tie-ins like the Penguin and Creature Commando, which will have little to any reflection on ANY stories you may have read or loved/enjoyed/appreciated in DC's history, but will instead be some scriptwriter or director or showrunners idea of GOOD TV dressed up in DC characters that might as well be overpriced fan fiction with a collection of 'named' OCs passed off as some AU.
Yes, this is of course it, but the meme is pretending it's not.
No one actually gives a frick about the Suicide Squad. The first movie did well because of the Queen soundtrack, Will Smith, new Joker and the first big budget adaptation of Harley. The second movie had none of that and could only sell itself on the premise and property that not many care about besides DC and WB who seem convinced the team can be a thing, even though it’s flopped time and time again.
>and WB who seem convinced the team can be a thing, even though it’s flopped time and time again
The Ostrander comic would be great for adaptation as a premium TV series, but WB just wants knockoff GOTG featuring Harley Quinn from the Harley Quinn series.
That being said, the Gunn film is by far the best out of WB's attempts to exploit the IP.
A hell to pay was better.
Am I in a fricking Bizzaro world or something? I thought everyone on Cinemaphile agreed this was vastly better to the original and the best DCU film when it came out. The first movie had god awful dialogue all throughout and it was bizarre for them to have a supernatural villain on the get-go. The second one had a way better cast that was easier to latch onto, less painful humor, and a more fitting plot about a US backed military coupe that turned into a Kaiju movie, it's only fault was Harley.
Cinemaphile is famous for being fickle to something after about 4 Years
Crappy movie (the same unbearable quippy dialog), but what made it flop was that it had no hype and was released just like that. No-one remembers that in Snyder's era there was still hype for these films and it was also the height of the superhero movie era. Another thing they did to hype the movie was to drip feed information about the movie and the soundtrack
I don’t understand how Lucifer that got no acknowledgment or promotion/shilling from DC creators had more viewers was cancelled by Fox and saved by Netflix because it had so many international viewers but this is portrayed like a success. Numbers don’t mean anything anymore. Mad world.
>released in the heat of the pandemic
>sequel of what was considered one of the worst cinecomics ever existed
>part of DCU, a cinematic universe no one cared anymore after how hard snyder and the other guy fumbled it.
It got so many things against that it is a miracle that didn't flopped even harder.
Because they killed off Polka-Dot Man
Wasn't it on HBO Max day 1?
>Wasn't it on HBO Max day 1?
EVERY WB movie released that year was DAY and DATE on HBO Max and whatever theaters were opened. Dune and Matrix were the only ones who had any significant theatrical income, almost everything else 'technically' bombed but that's also true of the Disney, Universal, etc. releases, many that didn't get theater releases (like two of the Pixar movies, which is still hurting Pixar today).
Matrix Resurrections was a flop