Why did King hate Kubrick's take on Jack so much?

Why did King hate Kubrick's take on Jack so much?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because in the book it's a gradual lapse to insanity. Normal father becomes batshit crazy. In the movie he seems unstable basically from the first scene onwards. But I think Kubrick made the right call because of the length of the film

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kubrick in general doesn't become a slave to the source material and the more you kvetch, the more he will deviate

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It seemed at points King created Jack so he could place the blame of his own mistakes into something else: alcohol, bad childhood, etc. Kubrick basically saw that and said: "it's not alcohol, but you. You're just a terrible person."

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was mostly an excuse. Ultimately King despised Kubrick's version of the Shining because it eclipsed not only his original work but his entire career.

      Kubrick loved the book, but understood what's good for a novel doesn't mean it's good for a film. King didn't understand film and why trying to do a 1:1 adaptation doesn't work in most cases until he tried doing it himself.

      Combination of all three of these. Im reminded of a Letterman interview with the guy who played Jack in the TV mini series where he explains some of the differences between the TV version and the film. He mentions how they swapped the axe jack chases danny around the hotel with with a croquet mallet and the audience openly laughs at him because its ridiculous.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was mostly an excuse. Ultimately King despised Kubrick's version of the Shining because it eclipsed not only his original work but his entire career.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone hated The Shining when it came out not just King

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    King wanted to frick Duvall but couldn't

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kubrick loved the book, but understood what's good for a novel doesn't mean it's good for a film. King didn't understand film and why trying to do a 1:1 adaptation doesn't work in most cases until he tried doing it himself.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kubrick loved the book
      He didn't. He said the execution was weak but the idea was good, and pretty much shat on King and made fun of his "desire" for horror to be taken seriously so hard it felt cringe. Even his co-writer said the novel was bad.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was Kubrick being a pretentious twat. Just like the story about how he was going through a stack of hundreds of books and as soon as he didn't like one while reading he would throw it at the wall as hard as he could and The Shining survived his melodramatic ordeal.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >as soon as he didn't like one while reading he would throw it at the wall as hard as he could
          i'm thinking based

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Just like the story about how he was going through a stack of hundreds of books and as soon as he didn't like one while reading he would throw it at the wall as hard as he could
          He's literally me.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Supremely autistic.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kubrick at least was genuine about his intentions and the books short comings and actually adapted what was given to him. Look at someone like Spielberg who buys books and completely guts them for a single character.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    He made a masterpiece of his craft that King could not ever think of achieve in his lifetime of work, while being The Shinning like just the 4th-5th Kubrick best only.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    did King praise Nicholson's performance at least? never heard any talk about that

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, Nicholson went full moron is what they said on release.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because King is a moron and not actually a good novel writer. Kubrick fixed his shortcomings so king got butt hurt

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    He didn’t, watch his interview with Letterman, he thought the film made clear how mediocre the story actually was and that if anything Kubrick had risked his reputation trying to make something out of it. His own words were Kubrick “fell on the grenade” which he thought was his book.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    they were best friends

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you can be friends with someone while also expressing public criticisms regarding their artistic output, especially when it relates to an adaptation of your own work

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes you can

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        well, that wasn't what your original post implied

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    When did he say he hated it?

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  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    US vs UK cut? Which is best?

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is ultimately why books are "adapted" and not "recreated". There different fundamental elements that make medium work, and those elements dont always translate.
    or at least translate to something consumable. Lynch's Dune is a great example of a book on screen.

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine any of these other guys playing Jack

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a commentary on how disgusting addicts are and King was (and is) an addict.

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