Why did people hate AO again?
It's a good follow up that stays true to the themes of the original and expands on it without compromising the original.
Why did people hate AO again?
It's a good follow up that stays true to the themes of the original and expands on it without compromising the original.
I liked it until the last few episodes
If it wasn't tired to the Eureka name would you like it more or less?
Personally I thought the themes were strong since the themes were basically "deal with your own consequences"
To elaborate, I didn't really dislike the endgame development but it felt super disconnected to the mystery they were building up earlier.
Like, suddenly everything hinges on Ao's existence being cursed and by erasing himself the world is now at peace. If they didn't wait until the last two episodes to move the plot in that direction, I would've liked it
People are mediocre.
>mediocre answer
Good job anon, you really proved your point there
Struck a nerve huh?
It was a compliment
The stupid anti-twist with Elena pissed me off.
>expands on it
it completely changes the setting from a unique sci-fi world to ours with mecha and concludes by completely invalidating the ideals of the original.
But at least they realized their mistake and released a new ending to wipe AO out of existence.
But beyond that it was just a subpar show.
So much of your time is wasted by watching it. They develop tons of characters and plotlines and just drop them halfway when the retcon gun comes into the picture. It's one of the most unsatisfying anti-climactic anime I've ever watched.
Eureka 7 concluded with the original, there was no reason to expand the story.
But even if they did there were far more interesting and fun ways to tackle it than whatever the hell AO was trying to be.
An adaptation of the New Wave/New Vision games, a lighthearted mecha sports series about LFO races, a series that handles the aftermath of them finding out they were living on top of the earth and having to coexist with the half of the corallians that chose to stay and all the sociopolitical implications of that.
We could've gotten Eureka 7 Zeta, but instead we got Eureka 7 Destiny.
It also got a movie series before SEED, lel.
I was at Hi-Evolution's US premiere. I stayed for the QA too. I cannot fully convey the atmosphere in the room from the point the Summer of Love sequence ended.
>PLAY BACK
Wait, picrel is pretty close.
I think you're being too harsh on it. The theme of AO is fixing your consequences. I feel like the OG doesn't hold up as well as you remember. I recently rewatched both and AO really struck me as more mature than I remember despite a shitty villain
Having an interesting theme on paper doesn't mean anything, especially with a show as poorly executed as AO.
>there's a football episode, there's the prank episode, an episode about cleaning and so on
great episodes which let you take in the atmosphere and tone of the show while hanging out with the characters.
The only weak one is the football episode and that's only because they should've been lifting instead as that would've been a chance to show off one of the unique features of the setting.
One of Eureka 7's best qualities was that it didn't just zoom through plot points, it marinates you in the setting. Not every episode needs to focus on moving the plot along, storytelling isn't a machine. Especially in a 50 episode show.
AO is way too rushed and plot focused and on top of that wastes its few episodes developing plotpoints and characters only to throw them away when one of the writers gets a new idea they wanna toy with.
The world is also much less interesting because they were lazy and just did modern day Japan with time-traveling mecha. You don't get the same sense of wonder or adventure yo udid when moving through E7's world.
In the end it pulls out a series of anti-climactic deus ex machina to deal with the unresolved plot threads, and by deal with I mean erase so that the writers don't actually have to think about tying things up properly.
Hi-evolution is the better sequel.
>Better Sequel
Maybe
But that doesn't make AO bad
Were you dropped on your head as a baby? All because you're trying too hard to fit in by bashing a 50 episode show just because it's by bones. By any chance are you a zoomer?
Now I'm a millennial, I watch OG eureka 7 back in 2008. I tend to rewatch Eureka 7 almost every 5 years. What makes AO so good in my eyes is that it does a tactful job of dealing with its themes of parenteral sins and exploring ones identity. Compare that to the OG which is a coming of age story, with the back half being more heavy conceptual sci-fi with the universe limit. But people tend to forget how slow and how much faff the OG has, there's a football episode, there's the prank episode, an episode about cleaning and so on. They tend to remember the first 3 episodes, the trippy episodes, the episodes in the clouds and then the final stretch. There's lots of flaws and Renton isn't as likable as Ao imo.
AO does a good job of condensing it's political themes into a tight 25 episodes while combining it's heavier themes of time travel directly into its MC instead of having it as a side story of the OG until necessary. Unlike Renton, Ao takes the blame and is the catalyst for change
Both could be considered coming of age. Prank established Renton's identity as part of the crew, track suit was part of his identity and used to great effect later. Cleaning was Renton's way of dealing with the death of Charles and Ray. Generally the more episodic parts of the story gave a bit more insight into the characters and had some minor theme. Football episode was the most jarring, its playing football as the plot was picking up, but that emphasized the punchline.
Does fixing your consequences sound interesting?
Lifting would have been more visually appealing, but it wouldn't fit with the episode. Wouldn't have the chance to see a different side to Holland, have Renton express insecurities or the searching for meaning in a mundane activity.
No, AO being bad makes it bad.
They are babies that weren't spanked hard enough, Astral Ocean a d Pocketful were better than the first series in nearly every way. It's Hi-Evolution that has real issues.
and others like you have clearly been swinged to close to a wall
Rent free
The only good thing about AO was Escape.
AO shits all over what they accomplished in the original but even ignoring that, the retcon gun existing at all makes it trash.
lol is that an akiman design on the right
Just the Nirvash's final form.
We were denied a soccer game with these guys complete with jersies.
It gets worse the more you go right.
Wrong
Are the movies worth it? should I watch them?
I personally didn't dislike AO but it felt very unnecessary, also I didn't like the voice that they used for Renton as an adult.
>Are the movies worth it?
Yes
>should I watch them?
Yes
>Are the movies worth it?
They are better than the original.
Shame we never got good art for Nirvash Truth.
>Why did people hate AO again?
The mech designs.
As a cinephile, it is fascinating to observe how Eureka Seven AO has managed to deconstruct the mecha genre in a superior way to Neon Genesis Evangelion. While both shows are recognized for their attempts to explore the darker aspects of the mecha genre, Eureka Seven AO stands out with its unique approach.
One of the aspects that make Eureka Seven AO exceptional is its ability to delve deeper into the social and political implications of mecha warfare. The show portrays a world where mecha technology has become ubiquitous, resulting in a power struggle among various factions that seek to control it. This political backdrop adds depth and complexity to the story, making it more than just a straightforward tale of good versus evil. In contrast, Evangelion focuses primarily on the psychological trauma of its characters, without considering the broader societal implications.
Another factor that sets Eureka Seven AO apart is its portrayal of the protagonist, Ao Fukai. Unlike typical mecha pilots, Ao is initially uncertain and inexperienced, struggling to cope with the harsh realities of war. His character arc is fascinating, as he grows and matures throughout the series, making him more relatable and likable than Evangelion's Shinji Ikari, who is often criticized for being whiny and unappealing.
Moreover, Eureka Seven AO subverts many of the traditional mecha tropes, giving it a unique visual style and storytelling approach. The unconventional mecha designs and combat scenes challenge the viewer's expectations, while the exploration of themes of identity and self-discovery sets the show apart from other mecha anime. (1/2)
Finally, Eureka Seven AO's ending is satisfying and conclusive, providing closure for the characters and the story. In contrast, Evangelion's finale is often criticized for being confusing and unsatisfying, leaving many questions unanswered.
Overall, as a cinephile, it is intriguing to see how Eureka Seven AO manages to deconstruct the mecha genre in a superior way to Neon Genesis Evangelion. Its exploration of the social and political implications of mecha warfare, its compelling protagonist, its innovative subversion of traditional mecha tropes, and its satisfying ending all contribute to making it a standout entry in the genre.(2/2)
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Man it's been a while copypasta kun, I still agree with what you say
I dont care much of the story. All i care is the robot can perform 360 kickflip front side on the sky while dodging missiles and lasers
You’re not allowed to like anything unironically