The scene was butchered in both the theatrical cut and the extended cut. No matter which you watch, it looks off, especially the theatrical because you can see all the cuts and jumps, especially in the lighting, with some moron chopping it up in Sony Vegas
The only reasons I can see for the Engineer going off like that would be seeing the humans beating each other right in front of him, making robotic imitations of themselves, then asking for Godhood. It doesn't paint them in a very positive light. They were already on the shit-list, but now they just confirmed they needed to die
You have to look at the transcript because they made the moron decision to exclude the dialog subtitles. Basically >this man wants eternal life >Squirdward: why should he be granted more life? >because he says he is a God like you-ACK
>NOOOO! How dare you conduct violence in front of me and hurt this woman! I told your ancestors to be peaceful! Now I will conduct violence and kill ALL of you! Then I will conduct violence on the woman and kill her too! Then I will kill the billions of people on your planet because some unrelated people two thousand years ago did something or other I didn't like! I'm super SMART, you see? And you're also not allowed to make robots because I said so!
Bravo Ridley
someone give me a qrd on the alien lore
in the first movie the space jockey is massive. is this bold guy really supposed to be the same being as the space jockeys?
Technology seems to hate them. That guys alarm didn't go off. He was supposed to bomb Earth after Jesus died. The rest of the crew were killed by the black goo they made. And when he finally gets his shit together, his ship is destroyed by humans and their technology.
old super rich dude from earth has his anthropomorphic automaton ask an unknown member of alien race*, which they found in stasis in a mostly inert at the time spaceship, that cannot even handle their biological weapons properly to make him immortal.
*he could be just a space fighter-bomber pilot, how the frick would he make a fricking human immortal?!
the films, both, would have been good if they were comedies with bender from futurama talking about killing all humans all the time and pointing out the idiocies of the films.
nothing makes sense in them.
The homosexual-bot is a just so stupid. What a moron of an actor. He should be ashamed.
David was a creation of his creations and to see such a thing in action was some blasphemous shit. Then the little talking fidget spinner had the audacity to claim a right to the same deification that Prometheus Man bestowed upon only himself and his own people. So he beat the shit out of it.
>Why did Prometheus attack David?
so the rich old man was so demented that he though that he found the tesla of biological sciences, when of course he found an alien space pilot in a bad mood.
>Engineers live a million years >Time is so trivial to them, that hundreds of years can pass and they don't give a shit >They even have trouble speaking because their language is so complex and takes so much brain effort that it removes centuries from their lives but no big deal since you got thousands more to spare >a 90 year old man with only a few months to live did the impossible and traveled lightyears across space, managed to find your resting place (which you left really shitty vague instructions on how to do) and awakened you to ask really nicely and politely to please have a few more decades of life >get super, duper, ultra mega giga pissed and kill him
>to ask really nicely and politely to please have a few more decades of life
he had an automaton ask and a bodyguard with an assault rifle behind him that also struck one of his one kind, a female.
It's not like anyone else could speak so the Engineer could understand. The robot needed to do the talking. And the screaming b***h wouldn't shut the frick up.
portable handheld translator, no let us make a homosexual bot
diplomacy? well let us have a goon with an assault rifle "cover" me pointlessly from back there
and just beat that scientist lady up to show the ALIEN SUPERIOR RACE that the old man is truly a man of distinction, class, worth and virtue.
It's not like anyone else could speak so the Engineer could understand. The robot needed to do the talking. And the screaming b***h wouldn't shut the frick up.
the film would have redeemed itself if in that scene the giant moron had stomped over and pulled the screaming c**t in half.
then said quietly, "now, gentlemen, we can discuss in peace"
>the film would have redeemed itself if
everyone involved was executed via disintegration.
1 month ago
Anonymous
you win.
but would you have enjoyed that scene?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>enjoyed
the films were not enjoyable, they sucked. Actors etc got their money and we got a lame duology.
1 month ago
Anonymous
but would you have enjoyed my scene with her being ripped in half like a doll and him having a polite discussion with the men after that, whether shown or not.
it might not have saved the pointless films, but would you have enjoyed it.
would you
would you
would you
1 month ago
Anonymous
>would you >would you >would you
no, and you need proffesional help
1 month ago
Anonymous
help yourself fricker
1 month ago
Anonymous
they should have all gutted that stupid c**t and you know it.
the robot could have taken her arms and the giant moron her legs and pulled her apart to shut her up.
then the others could have gone after the other screaming hysterical women on the ship and cut their tongues out to show the giant moron that they were at least logical beings.
I'm sure you agree
His creations are better than all the useless failed shit 'le engineer' made. Weyland's creations did exactly what he wanted. Prometheus just seethed because nothing he was making did what he wanted
>Weyland's creations did exactly what he wanted
lied to his own creator during the translations, got him killed. Endangered him before that by infecting a crew member with an alien biological weapon and many other things.
weyland wanted immortality, not a homosexual-bot to murder him.
Close enough. Still good enough that Prometheus should be ok with extending his life a bit and not sperging out in murder about it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Prometheus should be ok with extending his life a bit and not sperging out in murder about it.
engineers were long-lived, not immortals. They seeded live all over the place.
old man of a junk race asked for immortality claiming indirectly that his synthetic-milk-puppet, and wealth and other materialistic achievements, was an achievement superior to that of the engineers which was in effect giving life to the galaxy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Don't give him immortality then. Give him another century. It's like tossing a bum a $10 bill to get a snack. Don't have to sperg out and murder him. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's like tossing a bum a $10 bill to get a snack. Don't have to sperg out and murder him. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
he was a pilot or crew member of a biological spacecraft bomber of considerable size.
This was like asking a b-52 crew member to cure your cancer or baldness. He will be unable to perform both.
But he can kill you and fly over you city and bomb it.
what the frick were the script writers smoking?!
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why is it always assumed the base was military? The crew just jump to that conclusion based on nothing. It doesn't even make sense because the engineers left a map to they place for the humans to find. Why make a map to your secret military installation. Everyone always says this shit but it's not based on anything.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>secret military installation.
it was a space ship, supposedly the particular one sent to eradicate humans. The human scum hit the jackpot, more script idiocies.
It was not an installation and was not civilian, it had weapons and could eradicate life on a planetary scale. It did not have laser turret.....
And not a secret. From who? humans knew nothing and had no capacity to know anything of the military capabilities of the engineers since they were on the other side of the galaxy.
not secret, was military was a ship and not a building-installation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>but it's not based on anything. >Why is it always assumed the base was military?
Because it's a lone facility that houses a bomber with bioweapons
1 month ago
Anonymous
doesn't have any bombs on it, you fairy
1 month ago
Anonymous
They didn't even know about the black goo when they made the assumption. And it's never shown that the black goo is a biological weapon. The audience only sees it in the beginning as a way to spread life. There are no weapons on the ship or in the area.
And they also just make the assumption the engineer is returning to earth to kill humans despite having no reason to think that. The script just makes this shit up.
>engineer' made. Weyland's creations
engineers supposedly made humans and seeded life in a many planets
weyland was a super-rich old man with delusions of grandeur and thought he deserved immortality and made a homosexual bot that was malfunctioning in all aspects that mattered.
Weyland didn't know David was malfunctioning. It was perfect and 100% better than every other nearby human in every way. And Engineers created humans sure, but specifically wanted to kill them all because they were disappointing failures. And no, they didn't seed anything else, they failed every time. Did you not pay attention to the movies?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Weyland didn't know David was malfunctioning
yes he was an idiot >It was perfect and 100% better than every other nearby human in every way.
it was mentally, "emotionally" and in all aspects other than superficial ones an absolute failure. Are you doing drugs right now? Stop doing drugs. >the movies?
the films are absolute dementia. Humans supposedly failed because they were violent.
A better comparison would be that Weyland is Roy Batty from Blade Runner, who spergs out and demands more life from his creators, who see him and his group as an annoyance and a failure
1 month ago
Anonymous
nah, that's poo water.
the other anon said it best, you should learn from him
Despite there being absolutely no evidence the crew just assumes its a secret military installation. Which makes no sense since the aliens left a literal map to the base. Why would they lead humans to a military base. Then they just assume the engineers are taking off to destroy earth despite having no reason to think that's what he is going to do. Everyone just makes stupid assumptions that come out of fricking nowhere. This movie is moronic.
How did he even know David was a robot? Do you think he was surprised when he ripped off his head. I mean, he's a perfect copy of a human. There is no way he could tell
>There is no way he could tell
his sense of sight, smell, etc and his mental faculties were far superior to humans. The old man also said that he made the homosexual bot and then the alien took a closer look at that piece of crap.
what was the homosexual-bot thinking when he infected the human with the black nightmare goo? That this would in no way endanger his master, the old man? its not just ilogicla bullshit, its random bullshit as well.
It's only talked about because none of it makes sense. The story doesn't make sense, the characters don't make sense, and the plot device(the black goo) doesn't make sense. The movie is a moronic mess.
for that reason alone the movie is not trash like many claim it to be
It's not legitimately debated nor "not trash". It's literally just contrarians saying the same objectively untrue statements ad nauseam to rile up justifiably upset fans. It's the same crap as every star wars thread. This board only cares about infinite seethe threads.
I thoroughly enjoyed prometheus and the followup, they were a breath of fresh air and felt like we'll thought out scifi and are arguably better than the first four films which were a bit of a mishmash without much direction.
these two neatly tie up the loose ends of the original hastily produced low budget mess, while adding some imaginative ideas and characters with effects that wouldn't have been possible before.
the scene where the wheel spaceship is coming after the tiny figure of the woman running is iconic and won't soon be forgotten.
Something something hubris of man playing god.
Movie was so up its own ass, only saving grace was the first scene and the birthing scene were kino
Put down your phones when you're watching movies, zoomies.
Found out David was sympathetic to Israel
Feyd Rautha Feyd Rautha
Lindelof and Cuse are untalented hacks and should stick to showrunning Mexican telenovelas and daytime soap operas.
The scene was butchered in both the theatrical cut and the extended cut. No matter which you watch, it looks off, especially the theatrical because you can see all the cuts and jumps, especially in the lighting, with some moron chopping it up in Sony Vegas
The only reasons I can see for the Engineer going off like that would be seeing the humans beating each other right in front of him, making robotic imitations of themselves, then asking for Godhood. It doesn't paint them in a very positive light. They were already on the shit-list, but now they just confirmed they needed to die
You have to look at the transcript because they made the moron decision to exclude the dialog subtitles. Basically
>this man wants eternal life
>Squirdward: why should he be granted more life?
>because he says he is a God like you-ACK
based pic
The only reply to one the correct answer in the thread is about the pic
Kek
>NOOOO! How dare you conduct violence in front of me and hurt this woman! I told your ancestors to be peaceful! Now I will conduct violence and kill ALL of you! Then I will conduct violence on the woman and kill her too! Then I will kill the billions of people on your planet because some unrelated people two thousand years ago did something or other I didn't like! I'm super SMART, you see? And you're also not allowed to make robots because I said so!
Bravo Ridley
humiliation ritual
To get to the other side.
Because he is an abomination. Hardly artificial ‘life’, but a mockery of life itself.
Maybe, like in Dune, they hate artificial life.
Because he realized he was in the worst movie ever made, and had to take it out on something
bump
Jelly of his hair
David insulted him a little bit, got a little out of order himself.
He just told him to go get his shinebox and take care of Weyland's shoes.
>is genderless
>ACKS
what did ridley scott mean by this?
he was a harkonnen they're all violent buttholes that's why david euthanized them in pt2
someone give me a qrd on the alien lore
in the first movie the space jockey is massive. is this bold guy really supposed to be the same being as the space jockeys?
>Why did Prometheus attack David?
he thought he wrote the script for this utterly illogical piece of junk film
yes, its called Hollywood bullshit
Technology seems to hate them. That guys alarm didn't go off. He was supposed to bomb Earth after Jesus died. The rest of the crew were killed by the black goo they made. And when he finally gets his shit together, his ship is destroyed by humans and their technology.
old super rich dude from earth has his anthropomorphic automaton ask an unknown member of alien race*, which they found in stasis in a mostly inert at the time spaceship, that cannot even handle their biological weapons properly to make him immortal.
*he could be just a space fighter-bomber pilot, how the frick would he make a fricking human immortal?!
>Why did
why did a colony ship, the 2nd prometheus film Covenant, have gays and stupid people?
Why does one have to make a trillion mental gymnastics exercises to pretend at best the titles are even related to the films?
Come one man, creativity is dead on israelite-llywood and Scott some cash ASAP
they should have put only my 600 lbs life super obese as crew members, all blacks and all transvestites. That would have been quite the film.
This was actually a self defense situation. Castle doctrine. What would you do if someone came inside your home and woke you up?
Bot thread
the films, both, would have been good if they were comedies with bender from futurama talking about killing all humans all the time and pointing out the idiocies of the films.
nothing makes sense in them.
The homosexual-bot is a just so stupid. What a moron of an actor. He should be ashamed.
David was a creation of his creations and to see such a thing in action was some blasphemous shit. Then the little talking fidget spinner had the audacity to claim a right to the same deification that Prometheus Man bestowed upon only himself and his own people. So he beat the shit out of it.
>his creations
that guy was just a crew member in a biological weapons space bomber.
>Why did Prometheus attack David?
because he realized david's creator was a israelite.
>Why did Prometheus attack David?
so the rich old man was so demented that he though that he found the tesla of biological sciences, when of course he found an alien space pilot in a bad mood.
Cause he's robot phobic
>Engineers live a million years
>Time is so trivial to them, that hundreds of years can pass and they don't give a shit
>They even have trouble speaking because their language is so complex and takes so much brain effort that it removes centuries from their lives but no big deal since you got thousands more to spare
>a 90 year old man with only a few months to live did the impossible and traveled lightyears across space, managed to find your resting place (which you left really shitty vague instructions on how to do) and awakened you to ask really nicely and politely to please have a few more decades of life
>get super, duper, ultra mega giga pissed and kill him
>to ask really nicely and politely to please have a few more decades of life
he had an automaton ask and a bodyguard with an assault rifle behind him that also struck one of his one kind, a female.
not nice, and not polite
It's not like anyone else could speak so the Engineer could understand. The robot needed to do the talking. And the screaming b***h wouldn't shut the frick up.
portable handheld translator, no let us make a homosexual bot
diplomacy? well let us have a goon with an assault rifle "cover" me pointlessly from back there
and just beat that scientist lady up to show the ALIEN SUPERIOR RACE that the old man is truly a man of distinction, class, worth and virtue.
the film would have redeemed itself if in that scene the giant moron had stomped over and pulled the screaming c**t in half.
then said quietly, "now, gentlemen, we can discuss in peace"
>the film would have redeemed itself if
everyone involved was executed via disintegration.
you win.
but would you have enjoyed that scene?
>enjoyed
the films were not enjoyable, they sucked. Actors etc got their money and we got a lame duology.
but would you have enjoyed my scene with her being ripped in half like a doll and him having a polite discussion with the men after that, whether shown or not.
it might not have saved the pointless films, but would you have enjoyed it.
would you
would you
would you
>would you
>would you
>would you
no, and you need proffesional help
help yourself fricker
they should have all gutted that stupid c**t and you know it.
the robot could have taken her arms and the giant moron her legs and pulled her apart to shut her up.
then the others could have gone after the other screaming hysterical women on the ship and cut their tongues out to show the giant moron that they were at least logical beings.
I'm sure you agree
>few more decades of life
asked for immortality because he made a homosexual bot and lots of money
His creations are better than all the useless failed shit 'le engineer' made. Weyland's creations did exactly what he wanted. Prometheus just seethed because nothing he was making did what he wanted
>Weyland's creations did exactly what he wanted
lied to his own creator during the translations, got him killed. Endangered him before that by infecting a crew member with an alien biological weapon and many other things.
weyland wanted immortality, not a homosexual-bot to murder him.
Close enough. Still good enough that Prometheus should be ok with extending his life a bit and not sperging out in murder about it.
>Prometheus should be ok with extending his life a bit and not sperging out in murder about it.
engineers were long-lived, not immortals. They seeded live all over the place.
old man of a junk race asked for immortality claiming indirectly that his synthetic-milk-puppet, and wealth and other materialistic achievements, was an achievement superior to that of the engineers which was in effect giving life to the galaxy.
Don't give him immortality then. Give him another century. It's like tossing a bum a $10 bill to get a snack. Don't have to sperg out and murder him. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
>It's like tossing a bum a $10 bill to get a snack. Don't have to sperg out and murder him. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
he was a pilot or crew member of a biological spacecraft bomber of considerable size.
This was like asking a b-52 crew member to cure your cancer or baldness. He will be unable to perform both.
But he can kill you and fly over you city and bomb it.
what the frick were the script writers smoking?!
Why is it always assumed the base was military? The crew just jump to that conclusion based on nothing. It doesn't even make sense because the engineers left a map to they place for the humans to find. Why make a map to your secret military installation. Everyone always says this shit but it's not based on anything.
>secret military installation.
it was a space ship, supposedly the particular one sent to eradicate humans. The human scum hit the jackpot, more script idiocies.
It was not an installation and was not civilian, it had weapons and could eradicate life on a planetary scale. It did not have laser turret.....
And not a secret. From who? humans knew nothing and had no capacity to know anything of the military capabilities of the engineers since they were on the other side of the galaxy.
not secret, was military was a ship and not a building-installation.
>but it's not based on anything.
>Why is it always assumed the base was military?
Because it's a lone facility that houses a bomber with bioweapons
doesn't have any bombs on it, you fairy
They didn't even know about the black goo when they made the assumption. And it's never shown that the black goo is a biological weapon. The audience only sees it in the beginning as a way to spread life. There are no weapons on the ship or in the area.
And they also just make the assumption the engineer is returning to earth to kill humans despite having no reason to think that. The script just makes this shit up.
>engineer' made. Weyland's creations
engineers supposedly made humans and seeded life in a many planets
weyland was a super-rich old man with delusions of grandeur and thought he deserved immortality and made a homosexual bot that was malfunctioning in all aspects that mattered.
Weyland didn't know David was malfunctioning. It was perfect and 100% better than every other nearby human in every way. And Engineers created humans sure, but specifically wanted to kill them all because they were disappointing failures. And no, they didn't seed anything else, they failed every time. Did you not pay attention to the movies?
>Weyland didn't know David was malfunctioning
yes he was an idiot
>It was perfect and 100% better than every other nearby human in every way.
it was mentally, "emotionally" and in all aspects other than superficial ones an absolute failure. Are you doing drugs right now? Stop doing drugs.
>the movies?
the films are absolute dementia. Humans supposedly failed because they were violent.
best answer I've seen
No it's not.
A better comparison would be that Weyland is Roy Batty from Blade Runner, who spergs out and demands more life from his creators, who see him and his group as an annoyance and a failure
nah, that's poo water.
the other anon said it best, you should learn from him
Despite there being absolutely no evidence the crew just assumes its a secret military installation. Which makes no sense since the aliens left a literal map to the base. Why would they lead humans to a military base. Then they just assume the engineers are taking off to destroy earth despite having no reason to think that's what he is going to do. Everyone just makes stupid assumptions that come out of fricking nowhere. This movie is moronic.
How did he even know David was a robot? Do you think he was surprised when he ripped off his head. I mean, he's a perfect copy of a human. There is no way he could tell
It's possible he realized it because David attempted speaking an ancient or pre-ancient language, but doubtful. I think he thought David was human.
>There is no way he could tell
his sense of sight, smell, etc and his mental faculties were far superior to humans. The old man also said that he made the homosexual bot and then the alien took a closer look at that piece of crap.
He touched his face so David could have been a lot colder than humans.
what was the homosexual-bot thinking when he infected the human with the black nightmare goo? That this would in no way endanger his master, the old man? its not just ilogicla bullshit, its random bullshit as well.
Because it's a bad movie.
How was David malfunctioning? Wasn't he given too much free thought and they had to dial it back in future models?
>How was David malfunctioning?
did you watch the films? or just read the wiki page? did you even read the thread?
>Why did Prometheus attack David?
he could not attack "screenplay co-written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. " so he needed substitutes
Prometheus is the most hotly debated film of the 21st century.
for that reason alone the movie is not trash like many claim it to be
It's only talked about because none of it makes sense. The story doesn't make sense, the characters don't make sense, and the plot device(the black goo) doesn't make sense. The movie is a moronic mess.
The plot makes plenty sense, actually. Everyone just suffers from muh le bad character derangement syndrome so they don't pay attention to it.
I agree, which is why Donald trump is the best president of all time - because he's hotly debated.
checkmate, leftist
It's not legitimately debated nor "not trash". It's literally just contrarians saying the same objectively untrue statements ad nauseam to rile up justifiably upset fans. It's the same crap as every star wars thread. This board only cares about infinite seethe threads.
I thoroughly enjoyed prometheus and the followup, they were a breath of fresh air and felt like we'll thought out scifi and are arguably better than the first four films which were a bit of a mishmash without much direction.
these two neatly tie up the loose ends of the original hastily produced low budget mess, while adding some imaginative ideas and characters with effects that wouldn't have been possible before.
the scene where the wheel spaceship is coming after the tiny figure of the woman running is iconic and won't soon be forgotten.
>we'll thought out scifi
?????
They travelled light years to go get eaten by fricking snakes ????
i'm sure its a metaphor about whites and empowered women not needing children or whatever the frick
So you have this single woman who sleeps with random Blacks and then runs away scot free