Why did so many people get filtered?
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Chuds are on eternal cope mode over JD Washington because he’s a great actor who’s got swagger. See also The Creator (best film of 2023).
so true. he's the best actor of the 21st century just next to Scott Eastwood and Jaden Smith.
The homie got rizz, you right. Ain't nothing like the exaggerated swagger of a black man
im sure hes a fine actor but this character was just boring as all frick. name one distinguishing characteristic about his personality. or any character in the movie for that matter. Or any character in a nolan film for that matter
Everyone talking about it seemed to admit that the plot is full of obvious holes so I just never bothered watching it.
but it has no plot hole, its the whole shtick, the movie is flowing forwards and backwards the entire time.
jfc imagine ever listening to the morons here
tell me they were wrong, that it wasn't a funny little experiment for the director of the film, and that the story and events make sense if you think about them for more than a minute
the movie makes crystal clear sense, they explain every fricking thing. I'm sorry but you're moronic.
It's a fun spy movie with a neat gimmick.
Saw it twice on 70. It was during covid so no one sitting near me. Great times.
i've never been filtered in my entire life
It’s a cool movie that needs a rewatch. I liked it better the second time around at least. I like when it all comes together.
I don't think most people were "filtered" by it. It's just not good.
>I go to Pompeii. Far from Tenet jurisdiction.
Arepo should've been a real character rather than just a plot device.
No. There’s already one main character named after the Sator Square. It doesn’t need more. A subtle reference is enough.
tenet sequel where they go back to rome
It's forgettable, don't remember a single plot point, just some scenes like the lady showing him backwards bullets to introduce the timey wimey nonsense, and they go to an airport at one point.
There's so much high concept mumbo jumbo in nolan films that it all just blends together into a vaguely actiony, vaguely scifi, grey-filtered mess of self serious exposition and gruff men looking stern while doing stuff that the viewer somewhat understands as them trying to save the world/their family. Then when the good guys inevitably win at the end because of some asspull, you clap and the hans zimmer ost starts playing as the credits roll.
Although even the ost of tenet was forgettable
low IQ
What was his name again?
He’s the protagonist
they don't give him a name anon
>Somebody took the time to make a stupid image like this to compensate for Nolan's lazy and sloppy story telling skills.
>Nolan
>lazy
>sloppy
You clueless dense motherfricker.
>Leaves shots in his films with hair on the lens.
lolokay
>too low IQ to understand film
>it’s Nolan’s fault!
It's impressionistic you dork. Nolan's defining weak points continue to be his dialogue and his climaxes boiling down to people standing around talking and then a simple one-on-one pr two-on-one duel with little tie-in to his more or less unique thematics.
you should check out the original twitter thread
it's incredibly based
Neil was recruited in the past, not in the future.
So was the mirror always broken since they got the cars? Why didn’t they question it? Who gave them a broken car? Was it a rental or did the company provide it?
No, they go over this. The break would appear as they got closer to the time. Or more precisely, the universe in Tenet is treated as an Etch-A-Sketch where stuff can be overwritten by reaching in from a different angle, it treats time as a physical dimension like Interstellar does where 'events' as we know them are laid out beginning to end like a sandcastle and can be molded at will if you interact from outside of it.
>The break would appear as they got closer to the time.
Nowhere in the movie is such a thing even alluded to. The things that happen in reverse always happened forward and vice versa.
The inversion woo-woo is explained as being a type of radiation, like a physical characteristic carried by certain particles. It would run out after some time. The whole point of the algorithm is to turn the tables so that it's our world that's facing into the prevailing wind, not attempts to move backwards relative to us. The film essentially treats entropy as a physical property like kinetic movement.
That doesn’t explain nor does it relate to things going forwards. The movie shows there’s a Novikovian pathway for all paradox resolution which means there are no bullshit Looper/Back to the Future style “things fade in and out” type of time magic. What happens in reverse happens forward and vice versa.
you didnt feel it?
I did. I think a better explanation for the broken mirror is that the car was provided to them by the company and they simply didn’t ask any questions because they assumed the car had been on other missions.
There's a shot from inside the car pretty early on in the chase where you can see the mirror "start" to break.
No there isn’t. It was always broken.
it was broken, but not nearly as much. Looked more like a bullet hole.
It doesn’t change shape in how broken it looks
People don't like films that suggest a deterministic universe, you'll notice they get mixed reviews at best every time & a lot of people claim to not understand it because they don't dare grasp the possibility
that being said, there are some issues with the film as with most films in general, but people are on high alert to point them out to find a way to discredit Nolan's grim vision of the universe in this one as a schematic chaos. It's probably his most nihilstic movie and the polar opposite (or inversion) of Interstellar. They could almost be companion pieces like the two Ghost In The Shell films by Oshii.
Ok sam harris, cool it with the anti-free will remarks
interstellar is quite atheistic
It is, but it's more secular-transhumanist than secular-nihilist. It's Nolan saying "let's replace religion as the foundation of future society with a humanist worship of scientific exploration, and maybe one day we'll evolve into a higher dimension where we won't have to worry about heat death" & it's for his kids. It's a fairytale for his kids that he's gonna leave behind when he dies. I believe its working title was "Flora's Letter" which is the name of one of his kids?
I can certainly tell you frick trannies
Watched it 3 times, gets better every time.
The black dude was great. Idk if acting like he’d never held or even thought about a gun in his life was part of the movie but he was goofy as frick whenever he had a gun.
I don't care if the movie is actually brilliant in how it uses time mechanics and whatnot. The story and characters are not good. He failed to come up with a compelling story which is unusual for him. Even in his lesser films I can remember the characters, they are pretty defined but not here.
Inception is similar. I think it's reasonable to say both are his weakest non-Batman works. Following, Memento, and Oppenheimer are my picks for his best, though I have a soft spot for The Prestige as a genre pulp thriller.
Inception is one of his best imo, used to dislike it but I really warmed up to it over time and appreciate how much stuff he crammed into it
inception's plot is probably worse
>we go into layer upon layers of dreams to convince this one guy to not make a merger because...??
vs
>we need to find all the pieces of this world ending algorithm, hide it somewhere leaving no traces and kill all involved including the Tenet operatives so the future can never use it.
Did you miss the beginning of Inception where they get caught by the Japanese guy during an op and get forced to do this job or else they get murdered?
ill be honest and only saw it once and don't remember much. People hyped it up way too much and it was just kinda meh to me.
>to convince this one guy to not make a merger because...
There are three major energy corporations in that universe: Cobol, Saito's company, and Fisher Morrow. Fisher Morrow is on the cusp of achieving market dominance and Saito wants to break up that company so his won't be strangled out of business, simultaneously leaving a vacuum in consumers he can fill. He's the one that bankrolls the whole mission and promises Cobb he can pull strings to get his wanted level back down to no stars. Everyone else is just doing a job for money.
>make a movie set in a dream world
>as a director, you can make anything happen and you have nearly infinite money to do so
>the only "dreamlike" elements are the city folding over on itself and that hallway fight that got hyped up
I'm not asking for Twin Peaks/Paprika level wild shit, I just want something out of the ordinary. Did Nolan think normies just don't have interesting dreams?
Dreams are weaponized in that world. Competing companies use them to trick their competitors into giving up secrets. It doesn't make any sense for the story that the dream con artists would aim for the surreal. The entire crux of the story is that dreams can become mistakable for reality.
I was pleasantly surprised that Nolan went for mundane but very dreamlike scenarios.
>You're in a weird city and people keep asking you for a code for some reason
>You're in a weird hotel and weird people keep talking to you for some reason
>You're in an alpine warzone and have to get to the base for some reason
Like
said, pulling someone into a crazy circus dream would alert their subconscious since (apparently) high-profile people train themselves to resist dream infiltration.
The mark is meant to believe that they're in reality. Making them absurd dreams instead of realistic ones would be counterproductive.
i understood the chronology but the blackie is not someone i can get behind
>People thinking they're smart for "understanding" this turd.
>people think they are smart for not understanding
I've seen this movie 3 or 4 times and I still really don't understand it. I understand the basic plot but I don't get the car chase and final battle scenes in particular.
sex with neil
I understood the backwards scenes. What I don't understand is what is the villain's motivation is, and how his actions were going to destroy the world.
He was dying of cancer and was a doomer chud that wanted to give the future world a chance to survive.
He had incurable cancer. Being Russian, he wants to destroy whatever he can't have. He wore a fitness tracker/smart watch that was designed to send an email with the location of the Algorithm when his heart stopped. The email would leave an electronic record that the future people could discover, then they would use to device to reverse time which would theoretically destroy the universe.
It wouldn’t destroy the universe, it would just reverse the universe, which would give the humans of the future a chance to survive.
The future humans think it will allow them to live in a new world that's reversing but Tenet believes it will just cause a massive matter/antimatter annihilation that destroys the universe, or at least the localized part they live in. There's no proof either way and they don't want to take a chance.
Obviously no one knows, but understanding that hope is understanding the villain’s motivations.
It's pretty remarkable how popular Nolan is but there's little serious discussion of his work. He somehow manages to be an incredibly didactic writer while also concealing what his movies are really about. I never see anyone talk about the real implications of Interstellar or Tenet for example, just how they have cool scenes and good effects.
It’s because they fall apart with a lot of thought. Nolan is an action movie director at the end of the day who uses some nice cinematography. Basically a slightly artsier Michael Bay.
That is what he himself claims but we know that's not really true. On the surface he is just a skilled technician hence his popularity but his films have very real ideas at their core. Like this anon
said Interstellar is an endorsement of atheism and scientific rationalism, but he gets this message across with melodrama and special effects so it flies over most people's heads
A lot of movies are like that if you give it thought. And I don’t necessarily believe it flies over people’s heads, people like those movies for those reasons as well.
Nolan is a late-modernist Gen X arthouse director who has chosen the form of the populist blockbuster movie as his space to explore. Compare to how deconstructed club artists like SOPHIE utilize the form of pop music as their space in which to experiment with more avant-garde concepts. It's a high-brow / low-brow fusion that can probably be nailed down as being popularised by Kubrick with 2001, in which he combines his (arguably bourgeois) idea of what a high-class piece of art looks like, with operatic staging, classical music, intermission, etc. alongside its depthy and obscured thematics, with the pulp sci-fi horror popular in b-movies of the time. How good he Nolan at doing this is up for debate, but I firmly believe that that is the shape his intention takes, consciously or otherwise. You see it all the way back to Memento (based on a short story called "Memento Mori") at the least with his exploration of existentialism within our modern, godless conceptualisation of the universe ("When I close my eyes, does the world outside still exist?" = "Do our actions matter after we die once nobody is left to observe them?").
Problem with Nolan is that he is an optimist. When confronted with the Godlessness of the world he just redditfaces and goes "I heckin love science" especially in Interstellar where the implication is that a secular understanding of love and family can save the universe. It's very naive and ignores real-world politics. I also don't know how his Batman movies fit into most of his usual themes, especially The Dark Knight Rises which is just bad.
>There's no proof either way
Except that there is, the building that gets blown up from both directions in the climax, which is why the camera lingers on it. The future people were correct. The "good guys" doom the human species to a climate-change ravaged future to save their own individualist skins.
How does the building prove anything?
The real thing is the "algorithm" doesn't exist and its just a lark to get the people to do things in the past.
>black character lead
If he was an average wh*toid actor would be Le Kino
Didn't turn their brains off and enjoy the time travel gimmick and Inception didn't require a familiarity with Kabbalah
because they refuse to watch hours of youtube videos explaining the plot
people are just lazy bro
cause they tried to understand it instead of just going with it
The doomsday device of reversing the universe’s time is pretty stupid, but the rest of the plot and action is cool. There’s just no way you can produce the energy necessary to reverse time flow for the whole universe.
The way they set it up it doesn't sound like it requires a huge deal of energy or anything, it's sort of like The Road Not Taken where it turns out the means to FTL travel is actually relatively simple and has been hiding in plain sight the whole of history, it's simply that no scientist to live to date had happened to stumble upon it the way so many scientific discoveries happen by low-probability freak chance e.g. Fleming stumbling upon penicillin, Newton figuring out gravity from watching apples fall, etc.
They use the atomic bomb atmosphere thing as a reference. So it's likely the algorithm produces some effect that starts a chain reaction and the energy used is latent in the structure of the universe.
Since there’s some fellow pseuds in this thread here’s my artsy fartsy take on Tenet:
Tenet is about self actualization. That’s why the main character doesn’t have a name. It’s to help the audience use the character as a template and a tabula rasa for themselves. The reverse time flow war was a metaphor for the pressures of expectation and the future, and just like how the protagonist begins to “feel” how to deal with it, so must we learn to rise to the occasion and to will ourselves to success. The concept of normal flow time and reverse flow time meeting together at a single point in spacetime is an esoteric representation of will and destiny becoming one. As the protagonist learns more he realizes he’s the one setting things in motion for himself from the future and that becomes a key moment for him where he realizes he has control over his life. The act of free will shapes the universe around it essentially. And while there’s a deterministic interpretation to it, I think the solipsistic view of it is much more intended by Nolan because of how the Protagonist doesn’t have a name which makes the journey seem much more personal.
This contrasts Nolan’s previous future Interstellar which is definitely a lot more deterministic but also showing beauty in accepting the determined paths of the universe. Tenet on the other hand promotes a much more will-focused me vs the world type of perspective. In alchemical terms Interstellar represents the transformation to the color “white” while Tenet represents the transformation to the color “red”.
It’s just plain fun.
Because halfway through the movie they went deaf so they couldn't hear the dialogue for the rest of it.
It's a great movie. The ending with Neil almost made me tear up even though it was barely built upon earlier in the movie. Just the implication of the scene was enough though.
It's the very fact that we're missing out on the building-up of that relationship (due to the excellent temporal claustrophobia Nolan constructs) that provides a great deal of the pathos.
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Anyone who saw it in the cinema struggled to hear a word any of the cast said because Nolan is a fricking hack
The grim part with the Neil stuff is that he doesn't stop moving for a second or two after he's shot in the face. It's a hell of a brutal kill for Nolan for one of his chummy Caine/JGL-type sideman characters.
Shame that everyone watching it was too busy trying to understand wtf was going on to notice
Robert Pattinson was actually pretty good and some of the action was good but it was just a dumb movie
Robert Pattinson carried this one. I'd say it was a good movie because of him
because it's unironically moronkino of the highest caliber and even nolan the king of midwit who gets filtered by how mirror works admits how stupid it would be to even try to make sense of any of this but his midwit disciples still cant help but try to search for deeper meaning in whats just a demo reel for the bond movie he'll never direct because brocolis are moronic, covid memoryholing this tardkino turd was the single best thing that could have happened to nolan alongside the barbenheimer psyop
It is boring and completely pointless. Usually an action movie has compelling action, or a fun movie will have an entertaining element to it, or a drama will have gravity or emotional content. This movie has no redeeming qualities of any kind other than a big budget for production values. Means nothing if everything on the screen is just a big waste of time.