The darkness is more comfortable. It's easy to relate to characters who accept the world is a bad dark bleak place. It's harder for people to relate to character who desired to change that.
>It's harder for people to relate to character who desired to change that.
But a lot of Superman comics literally are about how he is wrong for actually wanting to change the world.
Batman's just easier to relate to. He's also more of an underdog, despite his immense wealth and superior skills, because he's just a normal human being at the end of the day. He's not bulletproof. He could easily die doing something as mundane as stopping an armed mugger if he gets sloppy. There's great personal risk in his one man war against crime and corruption, and it's not even a risk he needs to take, because he has billions of dollars. He could simply live a life of luxury instead, but he doesn't. He chose to become batman, to go through the hardship and peril of that lifestyle. It makes him admirable.
Batman's just easier to relate to. He's also more of an underdog, despite his immense wealth and superior skills, because he's just a normal human being at the end of the day. He's not bulletproof. He could easily die doing something as mundane as stopping an armed mugger if he gets sloppy. There's great personal risk in his one man war against crime and corruption, and it's not even a risk he needs to take, because he has billions of dollars. He could simply live a life of luxury instead, but he doesn't. He chose to become batman, to go through the hardship and peril of that lifestyle. It makes him admirable.
are lying their asses off.
Batman is edgy shit, and I like edgy shit. That's all there too it.
Uh no? I don’t relate to Batman in anything. Nothing. unless you factor in short term depression. His personality is so off the mark in terms of mine too.
Everything else Batman does is so disconnected from me that I only watch his stuff for pure entertainment. Superman is not my favorite but I can relate more to his everyday who job, having a mom and dad, and helping people. The problem with you is that you’re trying to relate to fictional characters instead of just enjoying for what it is. Fricking fiction.
I think that the lack of a trilogy in the 2000s crippled him more. But the issues with Superman's popularity started before it, its just that the 2000s just completely killed him
Superman is boring. Even comic book artists say so. Give him to another culture and they’ll just supplant their own character types onto him to make him seem less one dimensional; the Japanese solved it by making him a ramen hungry Naruto manga type. Superman has no depth; he’s not even good at being an alien since he’s a goody two shoes and perfect for most of his arcs.
Batman, on the other hand, often struggles with his demons and trauma; he seems more passably complex, at least because some of his pain isn’t distant like a planet blowing up. Superman just has kryptonite and whatever other weakness Lex brings. Batman has many weaknesses: keeping up a public persona of success whilst daily straddling the line between saviour and illegal vigilantism, amidst trying to deal with real insane psychopaths and schizophrenic serial killers. Even more tamer and sillier iterations of Batman are better because he’s basically just a PI or a cop that uses the unorthodoxy we wish we could to get rid of the villainous. The Batmobile and Batphone make him personable, funny, and iconic.
>Superman has no depth; he’s not even good at being an alien since he’s a goody two shoes and perfect for most of his arcs.
If he was perfect, he'd be able to solve all the problems around him effortlessly.
>Superman was created in a time when America was 90% white, high trust and overly patriotic.
So they should be real Americans and accept diversity like Superman wants
Batman had a vast array of villains, plot elements and tons of movies under his name. Joker, his arch nemesis. Is literally the poster child for edgy teens everywhere
Superman was created in a time when America was 90% white, high trust and overly patriotic. That kind of character doesn't fit well with modern more "diverse" audiences unless you make him into a cutesy queer boy like he is in that shit Studio Mir cartoon. Lex Luthor, while a sex magnet, isn't enough to keep him relevant. The character's cultural relevance died the moment Christopher Reeve had that "accident" with the horse.
>The character's cultural relevance died the moment Christopher Reeve had that "accident" with the horse.
People were mocking Reeve's films before he even had the accident. If anything, the accident saved his reputation, as horrifying it sounds
Show me a run where he's flipping burgers for every american while teaching kids to maintain and shoot guns and making sure absolutely everyone knows the national anthem. All while Lex Luthor tries to install vegan pacifism.
You're obviously a self hating American, hence you'd like batman more as shown in the map. >inb4 "you're x-wing!"
I'm foreign, he is called a boy scout because he is the ideal American, propaganda and all.
>You're obviously a self hating American, hence you'd like batman more as shown in the map.
Anon, its Liberals who like Superman. Normal people who aren't obsessed with politics prefer Batman.
Superman stands for truth, justice, and the american way. He's a good ol boy from a small farm town who was raised christian and he prays on sundays. Superman is as traditionally conservative american as you can get.
>He's a good ol boy from a small farm town who was raised christian and he prays on sundays
No, Superman's appeal is to being the country boy who ran away to the big city as soon he could to marry a feminist journalist and never return to the shithole town except to visit his parents.
Superman is just Jesus as a Circus Strong Man and basically a heavy handed allegory of America's power over all things.
Batman is the the true white man's fantasy but hes just simplistic rule of cool personified so he's allowed to get away with it without being a preachy Mary sue.
Cooler costume, cooler villains, cool side kicks, cool gadget, comfy setting, dark stories, can be edgy, can be campy, can have deep messages, can be generic schlock. What’s not to like about Batman?
Superman is too iconic. Pretty much any superhero parody would actually mock him which is why most people get to know him through parodies before reading/watching the actual thing.
Plus. because he is so iconic, pretty much everyone has him doing the same thing (we'll always see him carrying lois or almost dying because of that green rock).
It all has to do with adaptations >Superman has to fly, shoot laser deaths and have DBZ fights >Batman just needs a costume and some cool fight scenes, maybe a car too
Gee, I wonder which is budget friendly for adaptations
There's also the fact that noir/detective/crime is golden child for Hollywood directors/writers snobs who look down on Sci-fi stories which Superman is part of
Superman had popular movies in the 70s and popular cartoons before that. Batman had popular movies in the 80s and a popular cartoon in the 90s. It's less that Superman "never caught up" and more than Batman had success much more recently. It helped that Batman appealed to the edgy 90s Gen-X crowd.
I'm not sure that either are really relevant today, where the Marvel Multiverse was popular for a time and Spider-Man just recently took over.
>Batman had popular movies in the 80s and a popular cartoon in the 90
He also changed the entire superhero genre while Superman made a movie that everyone mocked.
People rarely read american capeshit comics globally, thus their exposure to capeshit is mainly through movies and video games and guess which capeshitter was more successful on those fronts?
The darkness is more comfortable. It's easy to relate to characters who accept the world is a bad dark bleak place. It's harder for people to relate to character who desired to change that.
Superheroes are defenders of the status quo
And that's a good thing
>It's harder for people to relate to character who desired to change that.
But a lot of Superman comics literally are about how he is wrong for actually wanting to change the world.
>1 year time frame
Expand it to the full range.
Now add Spider-man.
Okey-dokey.
Sony literally bought the movie and game rights to the most popular superhero of all time for $7M.
now add in George Washington
Do Superman, Batman and Goku
You know you can just do these yourself, right?
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore
Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire...the states that prefer Superman are just white people states.
Use it for 2004-present
>You know you can just do these yourself, right?
Yeah but you are the cool guy doing it.
>ukrainians trying to figure out who Washington is before they receive their Bradleys
Add goku, charlie brown, sonic and mario.
What are those spikes? Movie releases?
Don't know. Probably. Could be games too.
Batman's just easier to relate to. He's also more of an underdog, despite his immense wealth and superior skills, because he's just a normal human being at the end of the day. He's not bulletproof. He could easily die doing something as mundane as stopping an armed mugger if he gets sloppy. There's great personal risk in his one man war against crime and corruption, and it's not even a risk he needs to take, because he has billions of dollars. He could simply live a life of luxury instead, but he doesn't. He chose to become batman, to go through the hardship and peril of that lifestyle. It makes him admirable.
I liked Batman my entire life. He is not relatable lol. At all.
What, you're not a Playboy, billionaire, genius?
>playboy
>billionaire
>genius
Only Chads find Batman relatable.
I feel like people who make these type of claims
are lying their asses off.
Batman is edgy shit, and I like edgy shit. That's all there too it.
More relatable than Superman.
Uh no? I don’t relate to Batman in anything. Nothing. unless you factor in short term depression. His personality is so off the mark in terms of mine too.
Everything else Batman does is so disconnected from me that I only watch his stuff for pure entertainment. Superman is not my favorite but I can relate more to his everyday who job, having a mom and dad, and helping people. The problem with you is that you’re trying to relate to fictional characters instead of just enjoying for what it is. Fricking fiction.
batman had better movies. google trends isn't rocket science.
Google Trends = how many people search for these characters
More popular = more searches
last good movie came out in 1978
Batman had movies coming out. Superman stopped for way too long. Should’ve just released the Nick Cage movie for better or worse.
I think that the lack of a trilogy in the 2000s crippled him more. But the issues with Superman's popularity started before it, its just that the 2000s just completely killed him
Superman is boring. Even comic book artists say so. Give him to another culture and they’ll just supplant their own character types onto him to make him seem less one dimensional; the Japanese solved it by making him a ramen hungry Naruto manga type. Superman has no depth; he’s not even good at being an alien since he’s a goody two shoes and perfect for most of his arcs.
Batman, on the other hand, often struggles with his demons and trauma; he seems more passably complex, at least because some of his pain isn’t distant like a planet blowing up. Superman just has kryptonite and whatever other weakness Lex brings. Batman has many weaknesses: keeping up a public persona of success whilst daily straddling the line between saviour and illegal vigilantism, amidst trying to deal with real insane psychopaths and schizophrenic serial killers. Even more tamer and sillier iterations of Batman are better because he’s basically just a PI or a cop that uses the unorthodoxy we wish we could to get rid of the villainous. The Batmobile and Batphone make him personable, funny, and iconic.
This manga is soulless dogshit, not unlike his recent runs.
>Superman has no depth; he’s not even good at being an alien since he’s a goody two shoes and perfect for most of his arcs.
If he was perfect, he'd be able to solve all the problems around him effortlessly.
>Superman was created in a time when America was 90% white, high trust and overly patriotic.
So they should be real Americans and accept diversity like Superman wants
What makes Nigeria superman fans?
Superman is boring as hell
Batman had a vast array of villains, plot elements and tons of movies under his name. Joker, his arch nemesis. Is literally the poster child for edgy teens everywhere
Superman was created in a time when America was 90% white, high trust and overly patriotic. That kind of character doesn't fit well with modern more "diverse" audiences unless you make him into a cutesy queer boy like he is in that shit Studio Mir cartoon. Lex Luthor, while a sex magnet, isn't enough to keep him relevant. The character's cultural relevance died the moment Christopher Reeve had that "accident" with the horse.
>The character's cultural relevance died the moment Christopher Reeve had that "accident" with the horse.
People were mocking Reeve's films before he even had the accident. If anything, the accident saved his reputation, as horrifying it sounds
why nigeria likes superman so much?
Real life Bat-wank.
Don't listen to the midwits, the real reason is that Superman is too American.
Show me a run where he's flipping burgers for every american while teaching kids to maintain and shoot guns and making sure absolutely everyone knows the national anthem. All while Lex Luthor tries to install vegan pacifism.
You're obviously a self hating American, hence you'd like batman more as shown in the map.
>inb4 "you're x-wing!"
I'm foreign, he is called a boy scout because he is the ideal American, propaganda and all.
>You're obviously a self hating American, hence you'd like batman more as shown in the map.
Anon, its Liberals who like Superman. Normal people who aren't obsessed with politics prefer Batman.
Superman stands for truth, justice, and the american way. He's a good ol boy from a small farm town who was raised christian and he prays on sundays. Superman is as traditionally conservative american as you can get.
>He's a good ol boy from a small farm town who was raised christian and he prays on sundays
No, Superman's appeal is to being the country boy who ran away to the big city as soon he could to marry a feminist journalist and never return to the shithole town except to visit his parents.
Superman is just Jesus as a Circus Strong Man and basically a heavy handed allegory of America's power over all things.
Batman is the the true white man's fantasy but hes just simplistic rule of cool personified so he's allowed to get away with it without being a preachy Mary sue.
Cooler costume, cooler villains, cool side kicks, cool gadget, comfy setting, dark stories, can be edgy, can be campy, can have deep messages, can be generic schlock. What’s not to like about Batman?
People forget that Batman's Noir theme does a lot for his stories.
I dunno, you seem pretty obsessed with Superman.
Superman is too iconic. Pretty much any superhero parody would actually mock him which is why most people get to know him through parodies before reading/watching the actual thing.
Plus. because he is so iconic, pretty much everyone has him doing the same thing (we'll always see him carrying lois or almost dying because of that green rock).
Superman is a mary-sue.
What the frick is up with Nigeria and Philippines
It all has to do with adaptations
>Superman has to fly, shoot laser deaths and have DBZ fights
>Batman just needs a costume and some cool fight scenes, maybe a car too
Gee, I wonder which is budget friendly for adaptations
There's also the fact that noir/detective/crime is golden child for Hollywood directors/writers snobs who look down on Sci-fi stories which Superman is part of
Budget matters a lot
I'm going with the Cinemaphile answer and saying it's because Superman is israeli.
Batman has good movies, good comics, good tv shows, while Superman does not.
Nobody but Boomers think that the Donner movies are good, only Byrnegays and Johnsgays read modern Superman comics, and Smallville? Lmao
>Nobody but Boomers think that the Donner movies are good
People are claimoring for the return of Donner.
I prefer 60's goofy batman over modern grimdark super cerial drama batman.
I prefer Superman in general because he's something to aspire to, not someone you project yourself onto.
Superman had popular movies in the 70s and popular cartoons before that. Batman had popular movies in the 80s and a popular cartoon in the 90s. It's less that Superman "never caught up" and more than Batman had success much more recently. It helped that Batman appealed to the edgy 90s Gen-X crowd.
I'm not sure that either are really relevant today, where the Marvel Multiverse was popular for a time and Spider-Man just recently took over.
>Batman had popular movies in the 80s and a popular cartoon in the 90
He also changed the entire superhero genre while Superman made a movie that everyone mocked.
People rarely read american capeshit comics globally, thus their exposure to capeshit is mainly through movies and video games and guess which capeshitter was more successful on those fronts?