Why did the John Carter movie flop?

Why did the John Carter movie flop?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so fricking horny and lonely.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      W + based + relatable

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      life sucks
      frick this shit trash earth
      aren't we overdo for a meteor?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just invite a girl you’re talking to at the moment over then lmao

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Not red enough

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    John Carter isn't an interesting property to moviegoing audiences and there's nothing that can really be doen about it. It's a boring generic name, and Mars is a boring planet compared to shit like Avatar. It's simply too old fashioned to compete, people are desensitized after decades of space-fantasy. Sword'n'sandals in space doesn't draw eyes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a boring generic name
      The name of the book is A Princess of Mars. The humanoids are supposed to be red, the princess is not supposed to be a master swordsman super-scientist.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you're close, but a princess of mars and burroughs' work in general is pretty much the prime seminal influence in countless other works. every individual concept/theme in his books has been isolated, extracted, purified, and reapplied in countless other works. so watching a movie of a princess of mars now is like watching a clipshow of inferior/dated versions of everything you've already seen.

      now, if you're autistic, this will be 2.5 hours of happyclap. because if x was good in y, then it would have to also be good in z! nothing ever gets old for them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        thanks for reiterating that post

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          if you think that's a reiteration then you probably have trouble understanding a lot of things in life.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the book has been outdone many times
            >uh actually it was a huge influence and it's been diluted
            splitting hairs

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              except only

              you're close, but a princess of mars and burroughs' work in general is pretty much the prime seminal influence in countless other works. every individual concept/theme in his books has been isolated, extracted, purified, and reapplied in countless other works. so watching a movie of a princess of mars now is like watching a clipshow of inferior/dated versions of everything you've already seen.

              now, if you're autistic, this will be 2.5 hours of happyclap. because if x was good in y, then it would have to also be good in z! nothing ever gets old for them.

              mentioned the idea that ERB's work has been done and outdone, and not just that, why ERB's work has been done and outdone. because its prototypical fiction.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    brehs the israeliteelry scantily clad woman aesthetic is underrated. even if the israeliteelry is fake it's just attractive. I mean frick how do I find a woman willing to dress like this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We need a film with a bad ass warrior girl with just piercings

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        red sonia?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Starring Reva Moses

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >film with a bad ass warrior girl
        Nah, we need a film where pussywhipped beta males, like you, are hung by the neck until dead in the public square for placating and appeasing women and encouraging their selfish and psychotic behaviors.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I mean frick how do I find a woman willing to dress like this
      You marry her and then have her pose for your artwork like Frank Frazetta did.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Also the books 2 and 3 white+blonde girl who's race thinks their divinity but murderously simps for John was way hotter than dejah thoris

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What do you call those nipple metal pasties?
    Wish there'd be movie with this aesthetic but it wouldn't fly today's climate

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      just chain nipple covers

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Disney stopped marketng it and tanked it on purpose so they could shift gears into acquiring Star Wars for $4 billion. There's a book about this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >There's a book about this
      What's the name of the book?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        jon carters

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I remember it it was heavily advertised on Disney Channel when I was around 14. It made me curious on the movie, but I never ended up going to the cinema to see it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >marketing is the only reason people see movies
      yea, no

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would sabotaging the ticket sales help them get a hold of Star Wars? Not doubting, I just don't understand.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    elvis

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    are the books/film worth a go

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      frfr

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The first book is great. The second is anti-religion a tad bit. The film is fun and the woman cast as Dejah Thoris was smoking hot.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was poorly made and incoherent but I think the real issue is they took what should have been an R rated Conan-esque (but more pulpy) violent adventure story and turned it into generic trash.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >more pulpy
      Good luck convincing anyone in the industry that it's possible to do that and play it straight. Between their inability to just enjoy the fantastical, and how many pulp IPs have become free use, I don't see that style ever really making a resurgence

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God, I love these slave/harem outfits.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer orcs who dont find human women sexually attractive but still let their clothes deteriorate until she is exposed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        WAAARGH! More Dakka!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          warhammer is for gays

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Oda Non
      Based taste

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      in the books that's just martian fashion. its hot, but the sun is weaker, and the gravity is low, so they don't need much support/protection. why ERB thought mars would be like this is anyone's guess, his books are almost, if not over, a hundred years old.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A Princess of Mars is 110 years old.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God I wonder what they feel like

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      salty bags of sand coins

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A /hr/ thread from a while back about John Carter (Barsoom) https://archive.4plebs.org/hr/thread/4279612/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw Connan couldnt be released today

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't know anything about John Carter or Princess of Mars and was pleasently surprised when I saw it last year for the first time

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody knows who yhe frick is John Carter, including me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i watched the movie and still can't really name anything notable/meaningful about him.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was NOTHING like your pic related. there was literally no pulp in its pulp ficiton - which is what John Carter always has been.
    instead it was some dull, bland, neutered and castrated Disney Ride made for the lowest common denominator for maximum profit and at least 2 sequels planned.
    It was generic as frick and didn't set itself apart from other CGIfest garbage like Jupiter's Ascending.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm reading this right now, and to be honest it's pretty mid. I guess it was more groundbreaking in 1909, but it's just kind of stale now

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