Why did they have to make her fat? I can understand the raceswap but making her look nothing like April just seems counterintuitive.
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Why did they have to make her fat? I can understand the raceswap but making her look nothing like April just seems counterintuitive.
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Realism
Fpbp there are no good looking people in new york
New Yorker here
Can confirm.
I've seen maybe a total of 15 women who look good in my whole life here.
April totally would just be a obesegress in real life.
They probably weren't from New York. Probably from Maine or Maryland.
That thing on the right is just a white girl painted black, like all other 2D "colored" girls Cinemaphile desires.
>She doesn't have big lips and a wide nose so she can't be black
I don't think I'm the racist one here buddy
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She being ugly as possible was the only reason they made her black in the first place. There's simply no point in making an attractive black female that conforms to western beauty standards since that's what liberals are trying to destroy.
Those traits are the hallmark of being black though
>black man designs attractive black woman as an original character
>makes her the usual "white woman with dark skin"
So much for white supremacy
Minorities suffer from Internalized racism and can not be trusted to represent themselves until we end white supremacy.
But if they can't represent themselves in culture how are we supposed to end white supremacy
It's kinda weird how only working class whites have white supermacy and people like Jon Corzine or Bill Gates never get tarred with that label...
>Muh white supremacy.
>Muh racism
It's all so tiresome with you shitlibs. We all know every color wishes they were white. Chads & Stacys are the most attractive people on the planet because they are white.
That nose and lips are not white, caucasoid
>nose
Looks like a normal white nose
>lips
White as well
What about the eye color and facial bones though
>Doesn't have bulge in the tip of nose structure
Get some new eyes moron
>White as well
Wrong. Fillings do not count.
league of legends is a terrible terrible example since its a fantasy world where modern humans don’t even exist and gods and magical walking nukes walk the everyday streets.
not to mention there are multiple dark skinned characters in that setting thrown all over the world.
/misc/ we've talked about this, you being attracted to a black person does not mean they have "white features".
Are you implying she looks anything like Mel? Lol
She looks more like Mel than any white person you could probably post.
They have similarly dark skin color and large lips.. and that's it, the rest is completely different, Mel looks more like e.g. prime Megan Fox with dark skin than Anok, but most realistically she'd be a dark skinned arabic/indian woman with some white ancestry.
>flat vs rounded forehead
>light colored vs deep black eyes
>small segmented vs large smooth nose bridge
>upturned vs hooded nostrils
>exposed vs hooded eyelids
>flat face profile vs jutting lower half
>horizontal bushy vs arcing light eyebrows
>flat angular vs soft rounded facial features
>wedge like vs overhanging lips
Most realistically an IRL Mel would be half white half
That image was only about the lips, there's tons of white people with a nose like Mel's.
>b-black people can only look one way
>w-white people can have different facial features
Goalpost being moved left and right. Still haven't posted a white person that looks like Mel though.
Both races have different facial features but Mel's design is comprised mostly of those more commonly found in Caucasians than in Africans, with her most surface level elements like skin color and hair type arbitrarily being changed to black.
>Still haven't posted a white person that looks like Mel though.
I did, just not as a photo, Megan has the same bushy horizontal eyebrows, exposed eyelids, upturned nostrils, flat forehead, flat non-jutting face profile, non-hanging lips, light colored eyes, angular features etc as Mel.
To be honest this is getting ridiculous, we have character sheets and references of the artist using black people. Mel profile matches up with the middle right ref and Anok, far more than it does Megan, especially if you look up her side profile. You either have face blindness, or in denial, but more than likely it's both.
>You either have face blindness, or in denial, but more than likely it's both.
A lot of people here are foreigners who are only used to seeing caricatures of black people.
You are free to be in denial however long you want, that is your inalienable right
I'll be fine, you however anon, might need to check in with an Optometrist sometime soon.
Wow they look like badass chad wojaks
NTA but I can see it. Way more than this image
Sauce
Anok Yai
>dressing like shit to own the wypipo
Dindu logic
Who cares homosexual? You think cartoon white girls look like real life white girls either?
Have you ever actually met more than one black person in your trailer park?
Trailer park people have seen more black faces than a city zoomer.
black people disproportionately live in cities compared to trailer parks, what are you talking about?
No it's not. Gonna be on the side of twitterBlacks on this one, being ugly af doesn't make a character 'authentically black'.
Why do morons think brown skin automatically means "black"? Brown tans are a thing that exist & the people who get them are light-skinned. The stupidity of the Blacks thinking "SHE BROWN DAT MEANS SHE BLACK" never ceases to amaze me. Stupid talking apes.
You're the moron, anon was being stupid but it's pretty clear that April is supposed to be black in that OP image from the curly hair. She's just a mulatto
>Why do morons think brown skin automatically means "black"?
Because they want an excuse to hate it.
moronic dishonest nigring
Yeah? Not my fault typical african facial features are ugly.
>blacks have to have big noses and lips
White supremacy strikes again.
>grounded in reality
Because people of color are fat and ugly. If you weren't such a blind bigot, you'd understand.
making her fat and ugly is the best way to make the audience intuitively understand that she's a social outcast
The race swapping and uglification go hand in hand.
False, she was black in Rise and wasn't a hideous landwhale with clothes stolen from a drunken hobo with IBS. "Make all the humans uglier than the mutants" was all Rogan.
So we're at the phase of the cycle where we're pretending nobody claimed Rise April was hideous?
Zoomers and their obsession with worshipping trash the moment something worse comes out
She was bad, but not as bad at MM. Like MM, she was so much of a different character that they should have just renamed her.
Yeah, she was bad and the badness was the direct link to the worseness she is in MM.
Nice try moron. Everyone was b***hing about grandma glasses, man-jaw April from Rise. We had threads saying they could have just use that announcer chick's design for her instead but that goes counter to what Nick wants, which is ugly April.
Are you shitting me? Even Rule 34 hates April in ROTTMNT
Make her white again
Kek she’s a light skin / albino black, one star for effort
Still needs the legs adjusted, but it's slightly better. I still think teen April needs to go, though. Doesn't really add anything to her character.
Still looks like shit. If you're gonna make her white, at least remove the nappy turd shaped dreadlocks
Because different iterations of things often reinterpret characters, so as to be their own production rather than a simple retread or continuation of an old product. Sometimes these things are influenced by evolving social understandings, and sometimes they're done simply because those involved wanted something to be noticeably different to put their own mark on it. In this case, April still serves her role as journalist discovering and attached to the turtles, while providing her a different look, background, and motive.
What you're really asking is why you can't jerk off as easily to her, and that's a question only you can answer. Look deep inside yourself, and I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Thread can end here
>If you think making a fit and healthy character overweight is a bad thing than you must be a coomer
Clown world we're living in
anon the april you know and love wasn't forced to gain weight for the role, this is a different character
Your right, this character looks nothing like April, my bad.
nice try
Dishonest, that's why everything else stsyed mostly the same right? While only April received such big change in her design, not everything is about cooming, cumbrain, but the sudden and unecesary change in only her shows a cmear agenda, that is distracting and annoying, you can't help but think in every scene "april?" inmersion breaking, as she has a memorable design, which other iterations try to not deviate that much, as they know how memorable the design was, you know, logical stuff
>that's why everything else stsyed mostly the same right?
It didn't.
which of the two do you think looks more appealing?
Right isnt appealing at all it looks like some shit from a how to draw book
>Right isnt appealing at all
Posts like this remind me how out-of-touch this board is.
Idk but Mutant Mayhem is actually looking like a success
Bullshit.
You know exactly why. It's because the creators and art team has terminal ideological cancer that drives them to obsessively overvalue the symbolic impact of having lots of checkboxes to hit that ostensibly make the project seem more modern and socially progressive and aware. They see a dumpy, obese, black teen April as activism that is helping society, because they're so deluded they they believe they are doing the world a service by antagonistically raceswapping existing characters, and then doing the same homosexualy shit you're doing now and deflecting and projecting.
>rather than a simple retread or continuation of an old product
The production in question is a reboot of a 50 year old franchise, you fricking dumbass
>because those involved wanted something to be noticeably different to put their own mark on it
This can be accomplished without making the character hideous. Visceral ugliness isn't good character design
tfw anon is willingly ignorant
Dude who made this has pronouns in his twitter bio too...
>Have tons of characters looks inspired by past turtles media
>Make April black for no reason
>Trust me guys, there's no agenda. You're just coomers!
>contrive a reason for all the bad guy mutants to be family
>all of them are just variations on their 87' cartoon versions appearance and personalities
>Bebop even has his fricking turtle shell shoulder pads
>TMNT's designs are all near 1:1 copies of their look in every other incarnation
>Splinter is given a read flannel robe to look like his 87 version
>April has to look like a totally different, unidentifiable character without the context of this being a TMNT movie and she's their only female ally
>...y'know... because it's current year or whatever
>why are you asking so many questions?
>there's totally no dishonest or antagonistic reason for it!
>Sh-shut up, bigot!
Bebop and rocksteady being good guys in the end was fricking terrible though.
This movie shit up ALOT more than just april.
And for fricks sake, can we STOP having movie splinter learn martial arts from fricking TV? we did it in the michael bay movies and it was moronic there its moronic here.
In Bay produced he learned from flushed book
And both are actually kino concepts.
Unlike anagraming April.
IM GAY b***h
IM NOT ONLY GAY BUT I ONLY FRICK FAT DADDY BEARS
THIS b***h OFFENDS MY EYE SOCKETS
CLASSIC APRIL WAS MY homie
AHHHHH
People dislike ugly people.
It's not because they are not seen as frickable.
It's because they are actively unpleasant to observe.
This might be the most American post I have ever read.
How can you people type shit like this and have the gall to ask why people prefer the Chinese to you?
so what you're saying is that people with no creativity deliberately change things to make it SEEM like it's a new twist but really it's just a cash grab?
Because cute and attractive black women can't exist.
>She's not the problem, you're just COOMER!!!11
Or maybe, just maybe, people just wanted a attractive/fairly normal April instead of whatever the hell that...thing...in the movie is. Even though I'm not much of a fan of her, Rise April looks LEAGUES better than MM April.
I can understand making characters darker but making them fat is another thing since being fat is legitimately bad for you in every possible sense except how well you fit into someone elses fetishes.
Black person
That's alot of words just to say you are anti-white & anti-beauty. Post your nose, Schlomo.
There's nothing wrong with having a slim character that has always been consistent with April's previous design choices. It has nothing to do with the idea of finding a character more sexually attractive.
I sketched something out too, a rough design. I do think the small eyebrows was a nice touch but ultimately felt the jacket was too baggy too. I tried to mix her 87 hair with the new hair too.
>evolving social understandings
nice trap
>Sometimes these things are influenced by evolving social understandings
You can just say some homosexuals who don't like the source material wanted to make something else
They love to couch this shit in pseudo-progressive bullshit about how times have changed and modern tastes are different, but it always boils down to contempt and hostility. You can even see it happen a dozen posts up, where the seething Risegay tries to pretend shitty writing and raceswapping is an improvement, but all he's really saying is that he thinks the old thing is bad and dumb and needs to be belittled and degraded because no one should want it anymore, because the new thing is better because its CURRENT YEAR
>Yes we turned this conventionally attractive female character into Danny DeVito with a mop on his head because our vision is grounded in reality
Because ugly people like to feel represented, and If you disagree with them they will call you racist,sexist or any other word they can come up with.
But why did we start caring?
>people used to look at pretty characters
>I don't look like that and I feel jealous, I should change to better myself
>Now, people look at pretty characters
>I don't look like that and I feel jealous . THEY need to change.
much better
Oh! She's supposed to be a human being? ...Wait, shit, is that April??
Squish her more I dare you.
Slightly less ugly
Still looks like shit.
Aperil
Women hate attractive women
Black women ESPECIALLY hate attractive women
Frick off chud, looks aren't everything.
isn't the plot about how Leo is simping for her because he thinks she's hot?
if look aren't everything then there was no reason to change her to a potato in the first place
looks ARE everything. that's why they want it to be how THEY look
Didn't this b***h get outed as a rapist or some shit?
I used to work in an office and all the girls looked liked this if not worse
>why don't audiences want to pay to look at more people like this? It's such a mystery.
Jesus what the frick is that thing on the far left
That’s Gorlock’s big bro, Goroth
Blimey!
You never played amogus homie?
That's a man
They certain are if you expect to sell a quality product.
Americans are fat women are fat.
she's the same shape as the turtles
you have to realize the majority of women that are tmnt fans look something along those lines and i’m not even joking
God, this is the most abhorrent design I've ever seen.
>I can understand the raceswap but...
That's how they get you. Make something that will piss everyone off so that they'll be more accepting to their less anger inducing shit.
They want Black April to be the forever standard and heaven forbid if you turn a black character white.
It's funny that they're trying while literally every single TMNT thing they're releasing otherwise is glorifying the 87 carton, but it's sad that you know they're not going to give up and keep trying to make the race swapping stick with each new version they slap together.
They'll just turn 80s April black in a revival cartoon or something
I think it's less insidious than that. I think the new creative minds behind TMNT believe that the property has a lot of elements of being "black-coded" and thus new versions should cater more to black audiences.
The turtles basically talk like black teens with black VAs, they amped up the New York "hip hop/RnB" aesthetic, they're gradually shifting the ninja-fighting style to more shonen-fighting style since that's pretty popular with black audiences, they use a lot more graffiti visuals for flair. Naturally, it would make sense that they make April a black girl to complete the picture.
If anything, I'm surprised they didn't hire MORE black celebrities for bit roles like Samuel Jackson or fricking Queen Latifah if she still does voice work since Ice Age.
Fricking Black folk culturally appropriating Japanese culture.
TMNT is and was never Japanese, frickwad
Teenage Mutant NINJA Turtles
Is reading so hard for zoomers that you can only make it 2 words in the title of the franchise? I was saying the characters are the cultural appropriators lol
>Teenage Mutant NINJA Turtles
In europe they are heroes
If you actually watched TMNT you'd know the turtles are born in America, and learned Japanese arts, stupid shitstain. They are not born Japanese, they are MUTANT turtles.
In Europe you are getting raped so hard by migrants your brains fell out.
I was joking thag American Black person turtles stole Japanese culture please stop being stupid
If you make her look "good" despite being an outcast then you're saying she's an outcast in the story because of her skin. You're just making it more racist by making her still be hot but disowned in the movie regardless. That's stupid
How hard is it to make her look like a nerd or something if you need to try to fix this design? Actually make it make SENSE. Hell even Meg from FG is basically what you just need to do, even she gets irl simps for her despite in the show she's "ugly". There, problem solved.
I get shat your saying but her being ugly isn't brought up, in fact Leo finds her attractive. So I don't think that was the intent.
In relation to literally all other humans in the show?
Leo is a turtle freak, April is a human freak, of course he would like her while every other human in the movie outcast her
Read the fricking room, you're not suppose to self insert as Leo.
>Change her skin tone
>Change her weight
>Change her personality
>Give her glasses
>"It's still April, guys!"
This is the most outlandish example of changing 90% of a character rather than making an OC I've ever seen.
Remember you can't comment on any of that because she's 16. Clearly anyone complaining about April not being attractive is a pedo.
Why does she need to be 16?
that's how ny reporters look like
This is your punishment for shitting on rise
Rise deserved to be shat on. Besides the animation, nothing was up to snuff.
>titular characters take refuge in a sewer
>secondary "ally" character is so fat they could not actually descend a manhole
Damn, that's one cute T-word.
God damn it I made my own gay version of this thread sperging out over this I didnt know there was already one on the catalog.
Its because white people and fricking israelites and jealous b***hes I dont know what else to tell you.
>cartoonists in the 1980s
Fetishists who wanted their BBW fetish represented in cartoon.
>cartoons in the 2020s
Seething zillennials who are butthurt about porn online, but not in the normal "porn is bad for kids" way but in the "YOU FRICKING CHUDS FAPPING TO CARTOON CHARACTERS MUST END" way. someone will fap to it anyway
The real sad part is that this April is so dumpy and potato-shaped that she doesn't even invite architecture. They could have at least gave her a dumptruck ass so we would have something to work with but no
they made some weird abomination with a huge neck, egg shaped torso and tiny legs with a flat ass.
BBWgays will surprise you.
>start with skinny April, but hanging around the turtles eating pizza all the time makes her fat
Whoa, that's problematic! We can't have a cartoon encouraging unhealthy eating habits!
>start with fat April but have her lose weight by having her train with the turtles
what the frick is this fatphobic, right-wing propaganda? Not everyone can lose weight just through exercise, you chud!
>...average sized girl who is moderately physically active?
whatever, we don't even really care about your stupid ugly show for babies anyways
American culture is centered around n_____rs.
Meanwhile in Japan.
We're getting an April mech too. No pics yet sadly.
I hope it's hot like that recent Arcee designed by the hentai artist.
Its going to be a pilotable giant gundam style mecha so I don't think it'll be that much of a fembot but still should be really good
Didn't stop Nobel Gundam
Compare the silhouettes lmao holy frick give me the robot
She is so fricking fat
I finally figured out why these drawings bother me so much. Her fricking legs are in the wrong place. They're too far back. Like her thigh bone connects to the back of her ass.
Hey man that's Xavier's sister you're talking about
jesus christ…..,
Built like a fridge
remind me of this
meanwhile in japan
I remember when that Windblade model kit came out and all the actual trannies got so mad it was sexy they had to change it
they know regular people don't pay for this shit anymore so they're hoping to reach out to the truly maladjusted with the hook of "we care about you enough to make our characters look ugly too"
I think this has a lot more to do with it than people like to admit. Redditors buy things, Cinemaphileers pirate things or just live in poverty.
Look what you just said, that's why.
If they had just made her black, like in Rise, then people would complain about the race. Thus they made her black AND ugly, thus people focus on the ugly. Now they can just make a black april and everyone will praise them for not being woke anymore.
It's like how when you look suspicious and cops pull you over. Rather admit to a minor crime like jaywalking and they will just fine you, instead of them trying to find something worse and then see that you have child porn on your laptop.
People only want sexy black April so she can get a white boyfriend and Anons with jungle fever can self insert.
Yes. And?
Her boyfriends are green, actually.
what are the implications of the mutagen that changed the turtles also affecting fecal matter found in the sewer
Is right Jackie from Jupiter-men?
I'm not crazy about the left design but the right one is a firm downgrade when it comes to the movies overall design aesthetic. I think if someone actually thinks they can make a better April for THIS particular movie they should follow the art style, which means yeah she's going to look ugly. It's easy to go "I CAN MAKE A BETTER APRIL" and then draw a generic cute girl whose defining characteristic is she's cute.
Its really hard not to be racist when Black folk are out there putting bananas in their c**t like gorillas. I bet even gorillas aren't even that fricked
I hate fat people.
Who else here is a proud weightest?
>I can understand the raceswap
Oh no you're moronic
LOL No one wants to see a black April O'Neil
What will banana bread April be?
This is why the movie is flopping. April is integral to the TMNT franchise, and by making her fat and ugly makes the brand look fat and ugly. The frick was Rogen thinking? Did he not see the failure of rise when thye made april a snotty brat b***h? You cannot have a good TMNT without a good April.
>The frick was Rogen thinking?
Probably
>HUHUHUHUHUH FRICK WHITE PEOPLE
>I can understand the raceswap
the israelites hate beauty
>Even Playmates, a company known for being ran by morons ever since the early 90s and should've folded already, know nobody wants Uggo O' Hurl and made her a multi-pack exclusive instead of having her shelfwarm.
Orrr, hear me out:.....
Gingers don't get anagramed!
I know, fricking crazy Niger situation
Lmao what? When did Rorshac het anagramed?
That starfire is still a ginger moron
She isn't. Blacks can't be ginger you fricking mongrelina. Not to mention she should be yellow skin alien not a fricking darkie Lana Wachowski cosplay
Doomsday Clock, psychoanalysis man son
I don't care that she's black, I don't are that she's fat, but why is she rounder than the turtles? She looks like SHE has a shell
seth rogan is most likely gay and hasn't seen enough brown girls to know a lot of them are really attractive.
ohidunno
>I can understand the raceswap
Because she looked black in the comics?
When people say they want characters to look like them they aren't just talking about race, rather they only talk about race because that is merely one component of how they look. They don't want pretty black girls they want ugly black women.
>wears yellow
>has red hair
>is into journalism
what the frick are you talking about its got the main features of april
You forgot
>adult
>has a career
>confident
>parents run an antique store
>considerable technical knowhow that landed her a job as Baxter Stockman's assistant
>actually a drawing brought to life by a magic crystal and it was never really resolved or revisited
none of those have been a constant, the reason people ahted rise april is because she wasn't into journalism and green was her main color, if they fixed that rise would have been a hit
Rise had FAAAAAR more issues than just april anon.
your a moron
A few tweaks to April's design would not have changed her being just as obnoxious and loud and stupid as the turtles, who were also a problem. Rise April and MM April are almost entirely new characters that pay lip service to the idea of being just like the original. 2012 April is no better, either. If anything, they'd all greatly benefit from losing the name and being treated as something new.
there is nothing that says April can't be as loud and as stupid as the turtles, its 2023 we don't need a human to help us
The whole point is that April counterbalances the dynamic of the story. Why create 4 loud, obnoxious jackasses and then have their only human friend also be a loud obnoxious jackass?
>there is nothing that says April can't be as loud and as stupid as the turtles
yeah, and Donnie should have anger issues, Raph should do technology and Mikey should be serious!
Frick, there's nothing saying they CAN'T be those things and should stick to their normal characterization!
Raph being the leader shows us we don't have to be tied down to a rigid idea of what the turtles are chud
we don't need a coutner balance anymore, her whole point was to explain the origins we don't really dwell on that anymore so now she can be an actual character fricker
>Raph being the leader shows us we don't have to be tied down to a rigid idea of what the turtles are chud
Risegay, even the creators used their last dying breath to make Leo the leader.
>her whole point was to explain the origins we don't really dwell on that anymore so now she can be an actual character fricker
It's literally not and just goes to show what a dishonest, moronic homosexual you are if you think making her into a carbon copy of the 4 star characters is somehow brilliant character writing.
they did it that because you pathetic man children needed to keep it the same they wouldn't have done it if it weren't for you whinners.
As for april yeah it makes her feel like one of the boys rather then an outsider looking in and I am glad they will be continuing that
Ah yes, blame the fans, because it's their fault that the showrunners made a bunch of stupid choice. You're so transparently desperate to defend bad writing that you have to scramble to make excuses for something that already failed and will forever remain a poor choice that will not be looked back on fondly.
Even Mutant Mayhem had the foresight to make April a normal person who is only slightly unpopular because of an embarrassing incident.
you mean the thing people hated about rise? That's your argument?
There's nothing stopping you from drinking Clorox™ bleach like a juice.
Seth Rogan. The man hates anything good in this world.
Every single character in this movie looked like they were ran over by truck
we were robbed
>M-MUH 1987 AIPRIL
shut the frick up already
87 TMNT was cheap trash that was too stupid even for kindergarteners
>she is not real but this adaptation of her is more real than yours!!
The cognitive dissonance never ends
Her original design still wasn’t black. People don’t understand white people can perm their hair or have natural curly hair too. Like curls, dreads are also not exclusive to black folk.
Better but the shape language here looks strange. Her torso is too short compared to her arms and I personally don’t like the moles on her face. If she’s a redhead she needs light freckles, if you want to have something on her face at all. Moles like that look kinda gross. One is fine, more than that turns people away from a design.
>you don't like this specific design so you're racist, despite the fact that the alternative design you provided is still black
actual NPC behavior
Because if a Stacy threw up on camera most fellow students would give her empathy and support, not bully her months after the event.
>I can understand the raceswap
Well I don't