Why did Vegeta become a different character after Namek?
On Namek, he was sneaky, pragmatic, and had no qualms about fighting dirty. Didn't mind teaming up with others if it meant getting closer to his goals -- a shrewd opportunist who always kept his eyes on the prize and played the long game. After Namek, however, he suddenly believes in honor/"a warrior's code" and denounces the very idea of receiving help. If his strength alone isn't enough to solve a problem, then he'd rather die. He is defined solely by pride and hubris.
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He was still afraid of Frieza. Seeing Goku beat Frieza gave him a Saiyan pride hard-on.
He simultaneously got b***hed harder than anyone had ever been b***hed in dragon ball history and also realized the super saiyan legend was true all along. Frankly it's a wonder his psyche ever recovered at all.
he got to frick bulma, that'd fix anyone
No wonder Yamcha's always so happy
and Krillin
and Roshi
and Oolong
and Goku
and Gohan(senior)
and Gohan(junior)
and the turtle
and General Blue
and Tao Pai Pai
and Crane Hermit
and Zarbon
and about half a dozen nameless Frieza force soldiers
and Dr. Briefs
Was Dr Briefs her first?
>General Blue
He's gay
oh my bad, she only TRIED to open her legs for that one
Lunch was definitely elbow deep in Bulma too
it's what pussy does to a mf
Ai art is hideous, no wonder it died so quickly. That lighting doesn’t make sense.
What about the lighting doesn't make sense? It at least makes more sense than 99% of human art (most of which has no lighting)
Goku turned super saiyan.
Toriyama didn't like Vegeta and he said he only used him to move the story along, so I don't know why he bothered to bring him back to life at all when he died. His editor probably told him to do it since he was popular
He got buck broken hard when he fought Frieza. Did you not see him break down and cry? He frickin died, man.
dis homie called vegetable
KWAB
dis homie called vegetable
Why so many dragon ball threads lately? I don't mind, just curious if there's a reason
They just released a trailer for a new budokai tenkaichi game
Start a Dragon Ball thread and you might get some interesting conversations before it dies, or it just goes all the way up to 300+ posts
We're gonna get a new Budokai Tenkaichi soon, it's been a good period for Dragon Ball fans everywhere.
/dbs/ is expanding its territory.
>Vegeta
Who is that? You posted Bejita and he's currently waiting for Beerus to finish off inside his wife.
His name is Vegeta. You know, like vegetable? If you haven't picked up on that by now you must be pretty dumb.
>he doesn't know
Know what? That his name is written "ベジタ” in moon-runes? That's just the closest they could get to writing Vegeta because their writing system sucks
QRD on Japanese alphabets?
They use Chinese characters, which each mean a whole word and there are tens of thousands of them with very high complexity to distinguish between them, but these are terrible for writing Japanese because, unlike Chinese, they use inflectional morphology in their grammar (IE changing a verb to make it past tense instead of adding a word for the past tense)
So on top of that they use two separate syllabaries which have a character for each possible syllable in Japanese. So ベ = be ジ = ji タ = ta
Overall, it's a shit show
Wasn't DB written in the easiest form of Japanese?
I don't know what you mean by easiest form, they display the syllables next to any Chinese characters so you don't need to know thousands of them to read it, but a lot of manga do that. DB is pretty easy to read but that's because they aren't exactly discussing philosophy.
You misunderstand. Japanese language by default doesn't have what we english speakers know as the 've/vii' sound, so for them, words like veggies gets transcribed as 'begi'.
What about Aeris and Aerith?
that's because there's no th sound in moon
Similar deal. They don't have the 'li' and 'ri' sound as english speakers know it. So both gets rendered to エアリス e-a-ri-su.
The 'ri/li' sound in らりるれろ is actually sort of an in-between.
Nasu's works are the hardest to translate.
I can only speak for Kara no Kyoukai as it's the only Nasu work I've read from start to finish. Using the first volume as an example, in terms of vocabularies sometimes Nasu uses unusual kanjis of a common word to prove a point (or having the ruby characters which mean something different on top of a word -- e.g the ruby for 剛い reads as "kowai" (scary) while the actual kanji itself means "tough"). Prose-wise he has is own "Nasu"-way of writing:
- Incomplete sentences (e.g そして貌の亡い、つぶれた顔; this is also an example where he uses 2 different readings of 顔/face to prove a point (貌 means "looks on someone's face", 顔 means "the physical face") -- 貌の亡い = "X looks like it's dead"; つぶれた顔 = "smashed face". Combined together you can get, "A crushed face that contains no sign of life.")
- Weird ways of phrasing things (this could very be my inexperience with a wide variety of Japanese literature)
- Plenty of abstract metaphors, philosophical rambling, or even oddly specific technical ideas (this is mostly for the tidbits on Fujino's medical condition). Example: 眠り(ヒュプノス)は、やはり現実(タナトス)となる事で還る事になったのだろう
You are not a true scholar.
Vegeta got btfo and buck broke by Frieza and saw how much more more natural a fighter Goku was. After that, Toriyama made Vegeta a superjobber until like the buu saga when he backstabs Goku again
>Why did Vegeta become a different character after Namek?
it's called character growth, how are you this dumb?
Go check out /dbs/ on Cinemaphile if you would like to see just how dumb a dbgay can be
>go to a moronic cesspool to see how morons in a cesspool act
No?
>Seething about the HALLS out of NOWHERE
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE
Bejitabros...
The legendary kwab sword
It's said that any jobber who can pull it out would obtain plot relevance
My wife? a bawd.
Myself? a cuck.
BOOOOOOOOM!
Do you have the train pasta?
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I SENSE SOMEONE GETTING KEKED AROUND HERE, THE KEK-KI IS ENORMUS
WAIT A SECOND IS THAT.... I AM THE ONE GETTING KEKED, WELL YABBA DABBA DOO SLAP ME SILLY.
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I made a couple vegeta focused amvs back in the day, one used hallowed be thy name by iron maiden
He got mindbroken by Goku. Since coming back to life for the first time, his only life goal became proving he's better than him. Also, it's not like he believes in any notion of honor. He just really hates being put in his place and pitied.
Why was 身勝手の極意の完成 so hard to translate?
Things like attack names and what not tend to be made to sound cool in the native language, if you just translate the meaning, it's not going to sound as cool.
Maybe because he saw Goku do that very same thing. He saw Goku solve his problems with his own strength then go on to become the first Super Saiyan and beat Frieza, something he thought impossible most of his life. Vegeta must have decided there was something to it.
As a soldier in Frieza's army most of his life, he was probably no stranger to fighting as a squad. Only after he saw Goku solo Frieza did he probably think "wait..."
He didn’t. You’re just illiterate
>grew up knowing Frieza was the ultimate being of the universe
>only hope in beating him was the pipe dream of being a Super Saiyan
>Super Saiyan beats Frieza twice
>He becomes a Super Saiyan which is good enough to beat the man he always feared
>His only opposition are man made toasters
Is DB also too hard for morons here to comprehend?
It's called character development and the same transition started in the previous saga. Basically him being humbled (though not admitting it) by gokus superiority and realising that these new people in his life aren't so bad. He was increasingly realising he could work with the z team and he was finally seeing actual evil in the universe and realising that evil is cringe (although it's still in his nature)