Was it just effects budget? If I saw this when I was 16 watching the show I would've jizzed my pants.
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Was it just effects budget? If I saw this when I was 16 watching the show I would've jizzed my pants.
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Those don´t fit through the portal.
Also, yet another crap AI thread.
Yes it could have
yes, but how do you get that tank down to the gateroom?
It's a nuclear silo, you can just open the roof and lower the tank down.
>tilt Gate on side
>drop tank from top of silo
>tank falls through gate.
>conservation of momentum sends the tank through the go'auld,'s gate at a hundred miles an hour.
maybe invent some sort of technology that can ***beam*** solid objects from one place to another place
roof opens up. same way you get gate in and out.
Watch S06E01
If not a Tank or APC, at least some kind of light recon vehicle like an HMMV or some kind of purpose built all terrain vehicle. Just being able to carry more supplies for longer off-world excursions, a wider range of weaponry like a few MANPADs if they came under attack from Gliders or a sniper kit if they stumbled upon a HVT they could assassinate, extra medical supplies to deal with being on an entirely different planet and being cutoff from home, a small case of humanitarian aid supplies for making new friends, and an extra seat or two for transporting prisoners or emissaries.
They built a fricking space ship, you don't think they could do a little remodeling to accommodate a small motorpool?
Many worlds don't have "roads" for vehicles to drive on. And they want to keep a low profile while visiting new worlds.
Same way they got the much larger stargate down there doofus
and what the frick happens on the other side?
also they eventually managed to mount a .50 cal on a MALP
also the Abrams is the shittiest Tank in human history
a logistical nightmare with a fricking jet engine
>And what happens on the other side?
Using one to secure the gate wouldn't be a bad idea. Or to run over Jaffa gate defenses
>Abrams is the shittiest tank in human history
Confusing. It's certainly no worse than a T-80.
>Logistical nightmare
Tanks in general have a big supply footprint, that's true.
>with a fricking jet engine
You act like turbine engines are a problem when they're actually very good. You can run turbine engines on a variety of fuels and their power to displacement ratio is quite good.
>Using one to secure the gate wouldn't be a bad idea. Or to run over Jaffa gate defenses
Have you even paid an iota of attention? Or have you never watched the show? The Goa’uld have energy based weapons that are pretty imprecise.
Giving them a giant, relatively immobile heatsink to spew their plasma guns at is a surefire way to boil the people operating the tank alive. And even then it is not guaranteed that a tank could do much more than a ground assault unit (with 50 cals and bazookas/RPGs, as often seen in the later seasons). The SGC was massively more competent in army tactics. Giving them slightly more firepower only worked once they had actually superior technology to the Goa’uld
Yeah the staff weapons would pretty quickly boil the crew, or cook the ammo.
Even if they somehow didn't, Jaffa squads pretty regularly carry those giant ass cannons of that they use as the equivalent of bazooka's or anti-tank/anti bunker weapons, one of those would easily wreck any tank.
>You can run turbine engines on a variety of fuels
Unfortunately none of those fuels are available on other planets, all american weapons are designed to do is milk the taxpayer and get destroyed in actual combat
>all american weapons are designed to do is milk the taxpayer and get destroyed in actual combat
Idk what form of butthurt caused you to post this but reality disagrees with you. There's a reason everyone who can buys American.
Let me guess, you're a slavaboo who's had his whole worldview shaken since February 2022.
>There's a reason everyone who can buys American.
yeah, it's called protection racket
and there's a reason now nobody but your vassal states even bother
How long have you been prescribed meds?
Americans are prescribed from birth.
Does vodka count?
Smells like butthurt
you tell em, paco!
>and get destroyed in actual combat
>and there's a reason now nobody but your vassal states even bother
You don't need to have an opinion on everything, especially not on topics you only recently started paying attention to.
>Using one to secure the gate wouldn't be a bad idea. Or to run over Jaffa gate defenses
The Jaffa had bigger staff weapons they carried around and mount of tripods. We saw it used several times. One time they even invaded the SGC with it. The bigger staff weapons blew apart steel blast doors (many inches thick) with a single blast and blew open walls made of pure mountain rock.
>*dies in his shitty outdated T72 in the desert*
>also the Abrams is the shittiest Tank in human history
>a logistical nightmare with a fricking jet engine
Midwit take, spoken by a clueless moron.
>Shittiest tank in human history
>Dunked on literally everything in the com bloc arsenal for the last 40 years in every single engagement
Also sorry for the AIslop OP pic, I was just too lazy to boot up GIMP. Give me a few and I'll make a better version
SG3 were Marines
Here is this better? I'm not great at photoshop.
SG3 were Marines, and back then Marines had tanks.
Like
said, it's a silo with a big ass crane.
>n universe answer. Supply Lines / Support structure is what maximizes the effectiveness of Tanks, you got none of that shit. You got no Air Support, you got no GPS/Maps and even the high destructive power brought to the table by tanks can be matched by some Commandos with C4, without painting a big ass target that can probably be taken down easier than said commandos.
You make a good point. Especially because we don't know how effective plasma/staff weaponry is against composite armor. And vehicle recovery would be borderline impossible.
>The Gate is 22 feet in Diameter.
This is from the farthest edge of the outer ring though, so i'm not sure what the dimension of the actual "portal" is, less than 22 feet, probably like 20.
>an M1 is 12 feet wide
>m1 weighs 60 tons
This is the biggest issue. They would have to build a giant ass crane capable of supporting 60 fricking tons. The minutman missiles which the nuclear silo's where all built to house (and would have cranes for) all weigh half that much at most.
it would also be impossible to fuel the damn thing on an alien world.
This homosexualry needs to be quarantined to a board already or banned. The microsoft homosexuals astroturfing this shit are annoying as frick
I already apologized for the lazy OP pic and made an MS Paint one here:
. What else do you want?
Fpbp
No one wants another shitty low effort, low qual, AI pic or your cringe visual fanfic
Jesus Christ calm down. He's trying to be nice.
cope & seethe
you mexicans shit up the board for years posting jaks, pepes, and chadman. then cry about ai and everyone knows its because you dont understand how to make anything good memes with it.
top fricking kek. you can cry all you want and maybe a couple other brown people will circle jerk with you, but this stuff is 1000x better than jak and chadman geting post over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
the airforce doesn't have tanks
Göring made a Luftwaffe armoured division.
How would they get a tank down in there?
How did they get the gate in there?
They probably bored a tunnel into Cheyenne Mountain, not like they haven't done it before
>bored a tunnel
Ding ding ding give the man a prize. The particular tunnel in question in bored vertically and is referred to as a solo
From the top. The gateroom is at the bottom of the silo.
Why bring a Tank when you can just send Teal'C?
On Chulak, when a great warrior retires from the field of battle, it is customary to sing a song of lament. Fortunately we are not on Chulak.
Real world answer. Yes, it's clearly the effects budget moron.
In universe answer. Supply Lines / Support structure is what maximizes the effectiveness of Tanks, you got none of that shit. You got no Air Support, you got no GPS/Maps and even the high destructive power brought to the table by tanks can be matched by some Commandos with C4, without painting a big ass target that can probably be taken down easier than said commandos.
Never gonna complain about a Stargate thread, but Tanks through the gate is moronic unless we're talking full invasion of alien planet (which i'm not opposed to, but sort of destroys the 'secret' element that is already stretched pretty far by the end of things).
The real world answer is that they were tight asf with the air force. Not the army. The airforce provided shitloads of stuff for them, including letting them shoot on an actual fricking submarine, but I imagine a tank would be too much.
>Airforce
>Submarine
Baal do be stylin
>They have him create a bunch of clones of himself.
>Heavily implied this was entirely so they could make a bunch of dad jokes about "too many baals" "we found another baal" "be carefully handling those baals" etc.
BAALED
>choo choo
They have boats so why not a sub? Even drug dealers have subs.
>Air-force
vs
>Navy
SG1 was the TV version of Top Gun
and eventually everybody wanted in on it.
The branches literally tried one-upping each other.
Because The SG teams were part of the Air Force moron. That's why the show literally got funding from the Air Force.
>tanks
>He missed the part about humans nuking entire worlds with bio weapons
Growing up is realizing the entire show was about muh feelings and moist problems they encountered could have been solved with violence.
>Leaving behind 200 years of tech because the guy offering was a racist >:D
Amanda Tapping made me moist.
Perfectly reasonable position.
Teryl Rothery also made me moist.
Very based posts.
For me, it was Teryl Rothery, but I can respect an Amanda Tapping fan.
Those jugs.
Me on the left.
>Never shows off her puppies in seven fricking seasons
Imagine if the entire show aired on Showtime.
I'm imagining it right now
>"Welcome home Daniel, I'm in heat, do me here in the Gate Room."
That succubus is trying to steal that man‘s seed and prevent his ascension.
Every time I visit my parents and my stepmother is watching a Hallmark movie and I spot Teryl Rothery, I have to bite my tongue because she's such a fricking GILF.
looks like kim cattrall
>O'neill getting to cuddle carter in the ice cave
Made me very jealous
Which episode was that? Tollan?
That one where Jack flew the remotely piloted craft in the chair thing and turned on the people operating it. Because they were fighting a losing war against the "Breeders".
>Which episode was that?
The tech or the bio weapons?
No idea about episodes, its been years dude.
There was a plot about a splinter group of (earth) humans who eventually used rockets filled with bio weaponry to kill off Goauld worlds.
The tech was the episode with the planet at war in the bunker. O'Neill left the leader be buried with a database of their entire tech that was 200 years beyond earths after they targeted their own weapons against the bunker because they found out they are racists.
No one had a problem with this in the Stargate world. Probably THE episode that prevents me from watching it again.
>Probably THE episode that prevents me from watching it again.
Yeah i always hated that too, even as a kid.
That episode sucked balls. The people they let die weren't even that evil. They were fighting a defensive war for survival because of decisions made by their predecessors when they were all children or unborn.
Not evil my ass, they were actively poisoning the atmosphere trying to kill the surface world population.
The Eurondan apologist meme is so fricking stupid.
They were an allegory for Nazis, and if you defend them, you are a terrible human being.
>humans nuking entire worlds with bio weapons
if i remember correctly this was later on when they had a bunch of Jaffa allies and it killed their larva too.
in that case it wasn't good idea to use it.
>Jaffa allies
>killed their larva
Your post suggests some kind of problem.
without the invention of Tretonin Teal'c ,Bratac and the other good ones die too.
they need the larva to survive
>Growing up is realizing the entire show was about muh feelings and moist problems they encountered could have been solved with violence.
In civilized culture, growing up is realizing that using violence is barbaric and only a solution for moronic people.
Just call Thor and ask him to teleport the Tank to the planet.
The Airforce doesn't use Abrams.
There was a mega gate they could fly spaceships through. They don’t go with a tank because they are worthless
Gate too narrow
Hey, what ever happened to Daniel's Grandfather and the Crystal Skull aliens? They just left that whole thing a loose end.
I'm sure it was the effects budget but we also see staff weapons blow up armored vehicles many times in the series. Something as big and slow as a tank would be easy pickings for the Jaffa or especially a death glider.
How was it a loose end? They rescued Daniel from the crystal alien dimension and obviously nobody wanted to go back there.
if stargate was real the goverment would have spent a billion dollars making a special tank that would fit through the gate
Because it's a garbage cash grab of a show it was never intended to be high quality. it's complete and utter disappointment. The main cast had great chemistry, those are the best parts of the show. I have no problem with them making the Kurt Russel character more comical. This actually made sense when Teal'c joins up. I'm more annoyed by the ever-more-ludicrous places they gate to, the growing emphasis on Earth as THE most important planet ever, the bastardization of the James Spader character (I can't remember any of their names, despite watching several seasons), the moronic villains, etc. It's just not a particularly well written show. But thanks to the Air Force you have a scene where the characters demonstrate a gun and make no qualms about how you use a gun to kill people, and sometimes this is a good thing. None of this pansy bullshit "set phasers to stun".
SG 1 is just such a horribly written show. Take Teal'C for example, there is an episode where they have been building up this revenge story arc for about 2 seasons only to have the climax of the narrative resolved in the opening of some random episode within a few seconds, I'm not joking, there's no payoff, there's no back and forth it's literally some moronicly choreographed shitty battle scene with shaky camera edits and Teal'C kills the big bad in an instant then it's over, the rest of the episode is Teal'C having a bad dream because he's in a coma or something. Man. When SG was good, it had really good potential because there are a handful episodes that shine bright but for the most of it all it is genuine garbage. Just dumb stupid fun. That's why everyone loves it, noone pays attention. I mean really pay attention. The only time most people do was after the latter seasons because then it's literally in your face at how production is beyond garbage. A lot of people say that it came out of nowhere, if you rewatch and pay attention you will notice these signs on season 1.
Who hurt you?
I will literally hurt every single stargate fan you little rat. Because you're all wimps and homosexuals with zero critical thinking. Teal'C is the only good character, the only reason I watched it and that episode where he goes to Earth inspired me to lift because that's the only way you get real strength. But I am more pissed off at the cult like status of a literal shitty tv show whose sole purpose was to be a cashgrab.
Seriously think about it, here you have a precursor to a show, a wonderfully filmed Movie that establishes this universe and an interesting premise with a solid character dynamic. Cue the tv-show and it's just all a big clusterfrick that somehow garners cult status like following for no real objective reason other than nostalgia, mostly for the time and the main cast more than anything.
That is where the show's real strength lies, in it's main cast. Think back to every single villain, this is crucial to any show or piece of entertainment. Looking back objectively, don't you think it was anticlimactic how these villains who had survived thousands of years, and who were each the owners of dozens of inhabited solar systems making even the weakest of them orders of magnitude more powerful than all the nations of Earth put together, all died stupid deaths within a few months of each other due to SG-1. Kind of makes you lose respect for the people the Goold were oppressing all those millennia when it becomes a apparent that a stiff breeze could have toppled their empire at any time. Though I guess it is hard to have that many actors on call to play a minor villain for one or two episodes per season for several years in a row, so it makes sense to kill them off rather than risk the actor get a new job between seasons and leave the writers stuck with fans ask what happened to the character. It's genuinely sad because this is the perfect case of giving reins of something truly interesting and genuine to complete fricking dummies.
Overall, it's just a comfy 90s show that you leave in the background and don't pay much attention to. Any use of your brain or critical thinking of any kind might make it worse. The mood, overall aesthetics of everything is what's it all about. It's pretty shit narrative wise. So it really doesn't surprise me that the subhumans that love this show have the imagination of a 12 year old where they think a tank going through the gate is the coolest thing ever. They had many action sequences and portrayed the army in a positive light so many times they didn't need to push a fricking tank through you morons. There's dozens of figth scenes that override plot and character arcs just for the sake of Army Hell Yeah! visual effect in the show, probably why so many of you subhumans love it so much. Go and die for israel already like the goys that you are, meanwhile I'd rather not sell myself to the CIA. So many things go nowhere. Literally so much shit either gets underused, so many plotlines literally go nowhere. Take Daniel, this is a character that finds his waifu in the movie then S1 establishes her kidnapping by some other villain only for them to completely bail on that storyline and kill her off in a random episode. Daniel both the actor and the characters is the biggest embarrassing cuck shit I've ever seen on tv. The definition of a smarmy highschool nerd self-insert being holier than thou on screen, it's unbelievable they wrote all this shit with a straight face. You want an actual nerd selfinsert that's actually /our guy/ go watch stargate atlantis and pay attention to when Rodney's on screen. Atlantis is better structured, has it's villains properly delivered and has SOME character development as opposed to Mcgyver showing up to collect his paycheck every episode looking completely bored because the writers are taking another massive shit all over the season while the small dwarfy bald guy shouts UNSCHEDULED MASSIVE BRAP. You're welcome.
Schizo-Kun is right. The show was entirely held up by a handful of actors. The rest was mediocre, even bordering on cringe. Considering its decades old by now, by current standards it would be called woke slop today.
The only people making threads about SG are people who watched it as kids. If you were a fan, I would advise not to rewatch it.
It's ones of those "dad hideout" type of things now.
I have rewatched at least one episode of stargate every single day for the last twenty years, almost without fail.
suck my dick
Yeah man I don't know what to tell you. No the CGI doesn't hold up, but the campy adventures are still fun for me. Rewatching all of SG1 rn.
>Atlantis is better
finally someone said it, it really is and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
You're just jealous that Michael Shanks is married to Rommie. And if you think Daniel is the biggest cuck in sci fi then you've never heard of James Holden
>And if you think Daniel is the biggest cuck in sci fi then you've never heard of James Holden
>Rommie
it's unsurprising how low the standards of the average Cinemaphile user are
Why are you gay?
Stop simping for a literal monkey. Have some taste, when she's even getting mogged by her costar in her own show. Sometimes even the extras are hotter than her. Man andromeda is such a dogshit show too I'm not surprised you're a fan.
I've seen her bobs and vagene
open bobgina
probably what I miss most in currentday TV
hot white prostitute actresses
I miss those days. During the time you didn't realise but looking back it's insane.
Vanessa Angel is not white. She's "english" but her ancestry is mixed.
compared to the ugly mutts infesting "currentday" shows,
she's a fricking Aryan
>I will literally hurt every single stargate fan you little rat.
You can’t. Judging from your rants, we are all AT LEAST 50 IQ points ahead of you.
>the only reason I watched it and that episode where he goes to Earth inspired me to lift
Oh for crying out loud, you are one of these insecure omega males who define their manliness by the circumference of their upper arms, aren’t you? Pathetic. And on top of that you even have objectively moronic opinions. What a shame
>he got inspired to lift by SG-1
Embarrassing. You're exactly the sort of rube that gets taken in by Tate types.
what s this shittalk on fit
be quiet morons, your wives dont respect you and nobody gives a shit about you or your shitty shows, theyll watch all your fav eps with me though
Hello Roland
Take the character of Daniels, he is a very controversial aspect of Stargate because the actor has influenced the writers in a negative manner with his moronic takes on everything. I think it's incredibly amusing that this is a guy that not only let his wife at the time parade herself naked on camera and to everyone on set then decided to encourage the writers with that plotline for multiple seasons only to kill her off(simply because she decided to do something else at the time, plus their divorce). This is a guy that pathologically is a cuckold and a dumbass.
Lots and lots and lots of actors get a deal with a show, the show has a good run, and they decide "Frick it. I can do better. My talent is being WASTED here. I am BETTER than this." and they leave the show and strike out on their own. And then they realize no one else wants them and they've grossly overestimated their talent and draw, and they have to go back to the original show and resume playing the character they thought they were too good to portray.
We had a villain rate thread some time ago where we realized that ALL of SG villains were underused and done dirty by the writing staff. This is a show that you simply cannot take seriously and if everyone actually paid attention then nobody would take it so seriously. You watch stargate because it's a 90s show filled with camp, good overarching mood and it breed familiarity through it's cast, which does have good chemistry together.
A compelling argument. You've convinced me.
didnt read
based
GOOLD?
YESSSS
I kneel
every time
Most of the missions are recon. The attack one they use drones. Also a tank against a lot of plasma guns won't be a good idea, I think.
To be honest, in the initial movie they did send a big-ass nuke. There's not a lot of room for maneuver after that.
It would be overkill against savages and against technology advanced species, spaceships would easily blow up a tank.
Ok Abrams is too heavy and sucks more fuel than OP sucks dicks. But consider the following.
The team was american and everyone but germans would die from embarrassment riding that Warwick tank
Oh damn right I was thinking of the weight problem in the wrong way.
Yea I see O'Neill just making fun of it and laughing all the way. Also steal a pair and make a go-cart race with Teal'c.
>
Damn you, anon. Making me wish for things that will never be. Sounds kino.
These would get rekt by staff weapons
This guy invented a plate that's light and flexible enough to be worn inside existing plate carrier that can pretty much negate the effects of a staff weapon blast. Just cover the tank in that, and you're golden.
loved those in Soldner Secret Wars so much
GO FIND A STARGATE STRETCHER
All of you are missing the point. The reason they don't send tanks through the gate is because the gate is operated by the air force. The army and marines have tanks, not the air force. They send planes (F-302s) through the gate (dismantled), and they send rockets through the gate (there's an episode where they send a whole multi stage chemical rocket in pieces through the gate because they want to sent a satellite to study the local star), you gotta remember this is before the space force was founded, when space stuff still fell under the air force.
There's a parallel universe where the gate is recovered and later operated by the US navy, we can only assume in that universe they send boats and submarines through the gate.
If there was a universe where the army or the marines operate the gate, then surely, in that universe, there would be tanks sent through the gate. But that's never been shown in the show.
>There's a parallel universe where the gate is recovered and later operated by the US navy
/k/ino
That happens in the stargate continuum straight to dvd movie if you want to check it out
You know that the military will make anything happen if they believe it would be a strategic advantage right? And they would send tanks through but its bad story telling. Why didn’t star trek ever use cool planetary vehicles? Because exploration is an adventure and adventures dont happen in tanks.
dope ass body armors would be cool though
There are SG teams made up of army and marine personnel.
there's sg teams made up of canadians, but the air force still doesn't send ski doos through the gate
No but the US Army and Marines would.
sure if they were in charge of the program
The army and marines have their own chains of command.
look man i'm sorry i'm trying to make the joke obvious, i thought claiming that the navy would send boats through the gate would give it away, it's my bad
God I miss m81 BDU cut uniforms like you wouldn't believe.
>alt universe where the navy gets a stargate
GET THE FRICK OUTTA MY WAY GOOLD SHITS
>Because it's a garbage cash grab of a show it was never intended to be high quality. it's complete and utter disappointment. The main cast had great chemistry, those are the best parts of the show. I have no problem with them making the Kurt Russel character more comical. This actually made sense when Teal'c joins up. I'm more annoyed by the ever-more-ludicrous places they gate to, the growing emphasis on Earth as THE most important planet ever, the bastardization of the James Spader character (I can't remember any of their names, despite watching several seasons), the moronic villains, etc. It's just not a particularly well written show. But thanks to the Air Force you have a scene where the characters demonstrate a gun and make no qualms about how you use a gun to kill people, and sometimes this is a good thing. None of this pansy bullshit "set phasers to stun".
SG 1 is just such a horribly written show. Take Teal'C for example, there is an episode where they have been building up this revenge story arc for about 2 seasons only to have the climax of the narrative resolved in the opening of some random episode within a few seconds, I'm not joking, there's no payoff, there's no back and forth it's literally some moronicly choreographed shitty battle scene with shaky camera edits and Teal'C kills the big bad in an instant then it's over, the rest of the episode is Teal'C having a bad dream because he's in a coma or something. Man. When SG was good, it had really good potential because there are a handful episodes that shine bright but for the most of it all it is genuine garbage. Just dumb stupid fun. That's why everyone loves it, noone pays attention. I mean really pay attention. The only time most people do was after the latter seasons because then it's literally in your face at how production is beyond garbage. A lot of people say that it came out of nowhere, if you rewatch and pay attention you will notice these signs on season 1.
They literally do have the gate ships in the later shows though.
>bring tank through the gate
>it gets blown up by an al'kesh
Because tanks are for the dumb public on Earth. It's all an act.
Real stargate weaponry would rip a tank to shreds. You have giant space ships with energy shields that laugh at nukes, energy and plasma weapons that rip through advanced alien armor, teleporters, and orbital bombardment.
The aliens have it right. You use your space ship to secure orbital control of the planet, bombard the surface with beams and space Fighters, then send your ground troops in. If there are any areas of resistance, then you teleport in a strike force to the area.
How would they keep the tank fueled up? Abrams are notorious gas guzzlers. It would run out of gas within a few hours at most. Then it would be a sitting duck.
send a fuel truck after it
A staff canon would one shot the tank.
They probably could have tried it once though.
jaffa.... kree....
>...you know. Kree?
kel shak
Kek
Goold language being based on Unas language is cool. (They're both from the same planet)
Tanks are too cumbersome. Any vehicle bigger than a small dune buggy is too much for gate travel.
Fuel is another consideration. How would you keep a vehicle gassed up if your team is traveling through multiple gates and won't check back with HQ? Some teams are gone for a few days or more. Any vehicle would probably run out of fuel by then.
If they need support they would just call in a Puddle Jumper to carry supplies.
>Any vehicle bigger than a small dune buggy is too much for gate travel.
how did they get trucks through?
Space ships
It's simple. They couldn't get a tank down Cheyenne Mountain.
What's weird is they never did anything with that stargate fighter they captured, the needle threader, and instead made those goofilly frickhuge f-302s
goold fricking shits
>Hammond of Texas will never call you "son"
The stargate is used to research technology, explore the universe and make contact with other people and aliens. Any military involvement is always covert OPs or providing assistance to the natives as the local proxy, until the later seasons, where they build their own starships.
I would have cringed, if they turned this into a MUERICA FRICK YEAH thing instead.
>SGU
Oh yeah, I forgot about that show. We're they trying to do a Battlestar Galactica themed thing or what? It just seemed tonally confused about what it was.
>We're they trying to do a Battlestar Galactica themed thing or what?
Yes. They specifically admitted this. It was timed with the ending of BSG, SGU premiered immediately after.
Fans of the cozy tone of the previous SG shows which featured light-hearted heroism, snarky humor and very pro-US military themes absolutely hated SGU. I remember being linked to the blog of one of the writers or showrunners or something and getting to argue directly with him about it. He was getting flooded with comments from people shitting on him, and he said he was disgusted people were calling the actresses "bawds" and he was very annoyed about the meme names which I'm pretty sure originated here like "private homie" "lieutenant christgay" and "major hooters".
I argued with him that no one was insulting the actors, they were just going by the traits that had been shown in the episodes. In previous series the characters all had defined roles, useful skills and abilities and amusing, likable personality traits. On this show everyone was kind of a panicky butthole. They weren't supposed to be there, they got tricked onto the ship by the Scottish (Irish?) scientist guy. So if you have two female characters and the only thing they've been shown doing is having casual sex that's what people are going to comment on. Christgay got that name because after having a casual frick with major hooters he tugged out his cross like he was hypocritically repentant for banging her.
I told him the only characters on the entire show I found remotely interesting were the scientist who tricked them onto the ship, and major hooters, and frankly it wasn't her personality I liked about her. I suggested to him they should just have the scientist and her get exiled on a smaller ship by themselves, blow everybody else up off-screen and just continue with the sexy space adventures of mad scientist and boob soldier.
>private homie
>lieutenant christgay
>major hooters
>homosexual writer having to defend himself on his own blog
Holy shit this is hilarious. I'm sad I missed out on that.
It was Sgt Hooch, and Lt. Hooters to be precise, and nobody cared enough about the boring Lt. Christgay to give him a nickname.
>disregarding Lou Diamond Phillips
Your post is not an endless soiree.
>the sexy space adventures of mad scientist and boob soldier.
I'd watch it
>remember being linked to the blog of one of the writers or showrunners or something and getting to argue directly with him about it.
You underestimate how ego driven Hollywood is. Half the stuff that gets made is because those people in control use their political power to show THEY want to see. Not fans. From the get go, it was clear SGU was an ego project. They saw Battlestar Galactica and wanted to copy it. So they forced it on Stargate rather than try to pitch a brand new Sci fi show.
Basically a "I don't care what the SG fans think. We are going to make this work and fans will eventually grow to love it." attitude.
You made him get mad and stubborn. The worst part is that by the end of BSG's run it was clear we were moving away from the bleak and dark tone that was dominant in 2000s TV shows and films. SGU was very late to the party.
>I told him the only characters on the entire show I found remotely interesting were the scientist who tricked them onto the ship, and major hooters, and frankly it wasn't her personality I liked about her. I suggested to him they should just have the scientist and her get exiled on a smaller ship by themselves, blow everybody else up off-screen and just continue with the sexy space adventures of mad scientist and boob soldier.
Based.
It was Lieutenant Hooters though.
man atlantis was such a good show
>pickle in a carter
Only good part of that show, well that and Rob Carlyle.
Destiny itself was kino.
1. A tank wouldn't fit.
2. They sent drones and robots through first every time.
3. Stargate Atlantis actually directly addresses this. The ancients used cylindrical spaceships designed to fly through the gates. Shephard names them "puddle jumpers". Mckay hated the name iirc.
Why didnt the US donate an old F-304 to Ukraine?
they just sent a couple of Zat without power sources and 3 tokra, while the Russians got a deal the Free Jaffa Nation
holy shit frick yeah
If it counts, they did have vehicles in Stargate Infinity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIUcZifFLQE
fellas?
Hamas has officially gone too far
You did it, anon. You made a hypothetical where this old internet anti-semite would side with Israel.
Got a webm of her nude scene from that masters of horror episode, but obviously can't post it. Absolutely spectacular breasts though. For the curious google image search "julia benson nude right to live"
It's been ages since I watched SGU, but doesn't the Colonel swap bodies with the other Colonel on Earth and end up fricking his wife pretending to be him?
Frick I forgot about that. Weird cuck shit written into the show for no reason. Gay show.
i saw it, but it was called World of warcraft burning crusade and it was orcs and demons and shit
i think its because tanks are mixing metaphors. like tanks are safe on a battlefield ok not really but, you’re sort of safer in the tank and i dont think they wanted you to feel that power through the gate. its more about invasion, like supernatural invasion, gates what have you. i dont think you want to bring too much of your world in there with you. its bad story telling. like going camping and having the worlds best RV
Why'd they never take the second gate and stick it ontop of a Minuteman silo? they werent using it anyways and it's not like it's bother anyone on earth
America going full on MacArthur and haphazardly nuking every goold installation would make me so fricking hard. I'm getting stiff just thinking about it.
>we put like 8 Jaffa and a staff cannon to defend our gate. That's enough right?
I think this was mentioned or explored in some episodes iirc. But the idea was shot down because Teal'c said many Jaffa were just slaves and nuke strike would just end up hurting the innocent Jaffa families. Not the System Lord. Teal'c wanted to free his people.
I think there was an alternative dimension episode where they nuked a bunch of Jaffa homeworlds, and it made the Jaffa more loyal and fanatical to the System Lords. It drove the Jaffa to hunt down Earth and conquer it for revenge.
But Stargate Atlantis was more willing to use nukes lol. They would fire several nukes at enemy wraith ships, beam nukes inside their ships, and used nukes on several enemy homeworlds. They were more hardcore about it than SG-1. Any threat that grew too big got nuked.
>I think there was an alternative dimension episode where they nuked a bunch of Jaffa homeworlds, and it made the Jaffa more loyal and fanatical to the System Lords. It drove the Jaffa to hunt down Earth and conquer it for revenge.
Yeah the episode where samantha activate the dimensal mirror. The SGC had nuked basically every gould world they could find, so they just sent ships to earth and invaded the mountain.
>gate opens
>jaffa cuck on the staff gun gets impaled on the front of a warhead as a train sized ICBM flings through the gate and flies up into the clouds
>the malp drone follows and dials the gate to another Go'old world
>the missile comes back down and a new sun is born
>a new sun is born monuments later
Jaffa tongue my Chappa'ai
Who cares, they can just build tank farms on any world they want, and eventually they found the puddle jumpers anyway.
Abrams burns through oil tanker worth of fuel in 1 hour of operation. Its worthless down there
Add a naquata reactor
>it's safe guys
Classic. I remember thinking this during 2020.
Where my Jonasbros at?
I think him replacing Jackson was a bad idea. He was still fun at times I guess.
If anyone actually cared about stargate you could definitely get some flying the eagles energy going with this topic.
because this show is moronic
they set up no proper protocols for anything
no buffer gateway world for all transit
no defence beyond a few morons with rifles
no decontamination buffer zone
etc etc
they go to a different world and walk around for 30 minutes until the colonel starts b***hing that surely there's nothing interesting on this planet lets call it a day
it's the dumbest shit
So like the IRL burger military?
>because this show is moronic
no u
>they set up no proper protocols for anything
literally false
>no buffer gateway world for all transit
literally moronic idea
there's fricken half a dozen eps the attackers lock down the gate
a dumbass "buffer" world would simply be overrun
>no defence beyond a few morons with rifles
damn thing literally sits in a missile silo
>no decontamination buffer zone
it's the mountain, smartass
had been on lock down, to be nuked for multiple times
>etc etc
>Imadumbdumbdumb
>they go to a different world and walk around for 30 minutes until the colonel starts b***hing that surely there's nothing interesting on this planet lets call it a day
>it's the dumbest shit
so it's your first time watching TV
got it
yer moronic
>there's fricken half a dozen eps the attackers lock down the gate
>a dumbass "buffer" world would simply be overrun
That's the point you absolute nitwit, the bad guys would be overrunning P3X-420 instead of the FRICKING EARTH. If Stargate was real and I was in charge of it, the first thing I'd do is find a deserted planet and conduct all operations from an Alpha Site there, preferably built into a bunker. Of course, I guess the Goa'uld wouldn't be limited by the Protected Planets Treaty on planet Blazeit, but it would have kept Earth from almost being black(hole)ed
That was just Chulak, but yeah they try giving Alternate Teal'c the whole "We can beat the Goold Frickin Shits with the power of friendship" shpiel and he comes back with "you just nuked my family, go to frick you"
not to mention all the times they dragged a doomsday device or giga aids back to Earth and endangered the whole planet and set up the auto destruct of the mountain and survived by the skin of their teeth
you'd think that after the first dozen times they'd set up the Stargate command on a different world and put more distance between the gate and command room
>set up the Stargate command on a different world and put more distance between the gate and command room
So they could fail more efficiently, got it.
Thank god none of you galaxy brains are radar operators.
>but it would have kept Earth from almost being black(hole)ed
literally the fricking opposite, you moron
without gate connect nobody knows what's going on,
so you just postponed the fricking invasion by creating a useless cut off outpost that has no resources whatsoever to defend itself
that's the WHOLE fricking point of the Beta-site,
to stay hidden and NOT get attacked
>without gate connect nobody knows what's going on
Not him but while SGC and Hammond were always like "no soldier left behind", you could argue that a "reasonable" viewpoint would be to establish protocols so as to not fricking open the gate unless they themselves touch base every time in a while. And even if you did want to investigate, then SG-1 would have been perfectly capable of hijacking a tel'tak or borrow one from the free Jaffas. The giant fricking blackhole would be hint enough, assuming that tel'taks have a sort of failsafe that prevents them from exiting hyperspace within an event horizon (which is very probable)
The Ori plague was a perfect example of them getting space Covid because they couldn't quarantine for shit and needed a literal god to get brain damage in order to be saved.
>that's the WHOLE fricking point of the Beta-site,
>to stay hidden and NOT get attacked
Yes, much better to let the homeworld take the brunt of the wormhole shenanigans, you fricking muppet.
>no buffer gateway world for all transit
Security, resources including funding, politics.
Airforce.
It's not a recon vehicle suited for any terrain unlike a drone. Needs a ramp to get in and out. Doesn't fit inside rings either.
For deployment, you'd need dozens of them in an offsite, adds complexity.
It's expensive to leave behind.
Needs a specially trained crew as big as an SG team.
It makes sense 1% of the time.
It doesn't punch through shields.
A mortar crew and a horse would work better 99% of the time.
My wife
Goolds don't have tanks or armored vehicles, and if they have jaffas on a planet they also have ships that can just bomb the shitty tanks.
That and massive flying heavy weapons platforms.
Would easily blow up any silly Tauri Tank that dared showing up.
That's why it was quite smart to constantly operate as a highly mobile guerilla/infiltrating force.
Only starting to close in earnest, when they finally were able to build the X-30x line of crafts.
*sings*
*fast forwards
I stopped watching SG1 half way through the series (maybe season 5?). They had beaten several System Lords but not all of them.
Did the System Lord's ever create new Jaffa or retrain them to counter the guerilla tactics of the Sg teams? Did we ever see SWAT or "special forces" versions of Jaffa?
I'm surprised system lords never tried it. There's only so long that SGC guerilla and military tactics would work before they adapt.
Anubis bioengineered the supersoldiers with the energy absorbent armor. They were a lot more effective than regular Jaffa.
they weren't jaffas
but explaining more would be too spoilerish
>I'm surprised system lords never tried it.
to create even more effective potential rebels?
the jaffa were perfect for doing what they were meant to do
fight and kill each other
start watching the rest and especially Atlantis!
doesn't make sense even talking to you otherwise, you missed too much
Man, frick Atlantis. They literally re-hashed the OG SG-1 team by putting an obnoxious science c**t, a discount RDA, and 2 black aliens to make up for the lack of a fully fledged Teal'c. FFS, they even rehashed the idea of replicators with the asurans.
The charm of SG-1 wasn't necessarily the plot but the fact that you could just watch pure kino that didn't make you think too much. You had O'Neill making quips, Teal'c trolling him and Daniel moralgayging as Carter was basically a deus ex machina that served to solve the team's problems when they had them. When Browder came on the show it was so tired i barely got through it out of curiosity.
The last episode did annoy me though, because the Asgard basically giving away their entire tech basically meant that we'd go from a team of human underdogs visiting the galaxy to humanity becoming an actual intergalactic superpower.
SGU tried to execute the whole exodus team, which would've allowed the trope to continue. Instead they got some fricking hologram BS and a moronic fricking plot.
>The last episode did annoy me though, because the Asgard basically giving away their entire tech basically meant that we'd go from a team of human underdogs visiting the galaxy to humanity becoming an actual intergalactic superpower.
Personally, I thought this was a good conclusion for the morals and themes of the show
>Our true strength comes from our alliances
>We get what we need to defend ourselves by being good, not by stealing or coercion
>We defeated an enemy the Asgard couldn't through guile and wit, instead of just superior technology
>Humanity showed repeatedly that it would use the technology at its disposal to protect, not dominate
Luckily the Asgard didn't watch Atlantis
It would've been a good conclusion if you wanted to conclude the franchise, yes.
But there could've been more shit done. We now know that the Goold had the ability to lockout a fraction of the stargate network to create a sub-network. Why not play with that ? What if the reason why most aliens were really just humans and jaffa was due to the system lord (or Ra) quarantining the rest of the galaxy from themselves ? We probably now have the CGI to produce decent non-human characters.
This being said, SGU did try to twist this by making it about a crew of stranded humans, but i'm disappointed that they botched this thing too.
I've never thought about the end in this light, and I have to say you're right. It does fit the theme pretty well.
>Luckily the Asgard didn't watch Atlantis
Kek
>let's just beam nukes at every mild inconvenience
>quarantining the rest of the galaxy from themselves ?
Cool idea but I would hope that canonical Carter would have noticed that at some point in the 9 years.
This is an excellent post. Thank you for the reply, anon. I have nothing to add.
>to create even more effective potential rebels?
>the jaffa were perfect for doing what they were meant to do. fight and kill each other
I mean you ciuld still have canon fodder Jaffa but the System Lord's could create a very small force of Uber loyal and fanatical Jaffa loyal only to them. Maybe use brain washing or whatever to make them suicidally loyal. Then train them to counter human tactics. Like SS Jaffa. Or Secret Service Jaffa. It was just an idea to counter the regular Jaffa troops from rebelling. Or maybe create "Kommissar Jaffa" who have the authority to execute any Jaffa who show any signs of rebellion.
And while they are at it, they ciuld upgrade the Jaffa staff weapons. It works fine for scared and primitive civilians. But Earth aren't afraid of it. So they need something smaller and more tactical. Like a Zat Gun but bigger.
The Goa'uld could've been a way bigger threat very quickly.
The NID being taken over them could've been something that was explored more and in deeper fashion, with the goa'uld permeating every level of Tau'ri society. Setesh could've have been a literal god on earth, and same goes for Hathor, but I guess this is what centuries of sarcophagus does to a mfer.
>Did the System Lord's ever create new Jaffa or retrain them to counter the guerilla tactics of the Sg teams? Did we ever see SWAT or "special forces" versions of Jaffa?
There is an episode where Apophis trains humans slaves to use (fake) P90s and learn human tactics. Those weapons are then used for actual training in one of the better episodes (Foothold) where a fake invasion of SGC was re-enacted.
Apophis was the only one who truly gave a frick about the Tau'ri precisely because they were his main Nemesis. All in all, the system lords didn't really give a frick about the Tau'ri at first because it was heavily implied that they were a minor faction and were more than happy to get Apophis and Anubis out of the way. Also, the Tau'ri was protected by the Asgard. Ba'al and other Goa'ulds did try to infiltrate Earth from inside.
They used Mp5s and they were Intar training weapons. Intars were neat since that operated like conventional firearms but were non-lethal training weapons. I would have loved to see them deploy them as Zat'nik'tel alternatives. When SG-1 intervened in their training and got lit up by Intar weapons, they were knocked out for a good while and the fake SG teams that were training were using them daily with no casualties. Being able to mag dump 30 rounds of non-lethal with no chance of a double-Zat kill would be a great way to subdue high value targets for capture and interrogation.
And I'm sure Shanks and the rest of them would have loved to have an actual gun rather than the laser penis when they needed to do non-lethal.
>I'm surprised system lords never tried it
Then you weren't paying attention. The System Lords' primary trait, after megalomania, was hubris. The same old Zapp Brannigan strats had been working for thousands of years, so why change now? If you think this is unrealistic, look up the history of Sears.
On another note, you should give S6-8 a try. It's not the same but it's not bad.
>Atlantis
It never had the SOVL of SG-1. They created too many of their own problems, and the show doesn't really acknowledge it except one episode where Shepard's team gets put on trial and gets out of it because of lawfare
>kicks off the series by waking up the Wraith
>Pisses off the one group of humans with a chance of stopping them (Genii)
>Sets the replicators on the galaxy
>Blows up most of a solar system
>Lets the Wraith know about the Milky Way Galaxy, almost getting everyone there culled
>Creates Michael, who genocides a couple human planets
>Directly get a planet of very advanced humans Wraith'd because they were playing the long game to sacrifice a few to the space vamps while researching ways to defeat them
>Frick up multiple planets by imposing AMERICA FRICK YEAH
Pegasus would have been better off in the alternate universe where everyone drowned.
Many reasons, lore wise :
>The Stargate program was an exploration program first and foremost
>Direct frontal assault against the Goa'uld is something which they have no problem facing due to them having orbital and air support at every turn where as the Tau'ri barely has any, so your tanks would just get blown up by an al'kesh, and since the gate is a choke-point, the logistics of deploying tanks is such that by the time you have a fortified position there probably is a mothership right on top of your ass
>Hammond had a no one left behind policy, and going on all out battles meant losing a lot of men, which isn't good propaganda for what was literally a 9 season-long ad for the Air Force.
As for non-lore explanations :
>This wasn't a show about war, but a family friendly show about exploring foreign cultures and being the underdog, which is why the final episode was about getting the entirety of asgard tech and not much before that
>It did have a few "Independence day" type of moments, such as the battle of antarctica, the space fights against the ori, or even the episode where O'Neill was saved from Ba'al. Overdoing such moments means ramping up the odds. But if the Tau'ri can go toe to toe against even the Goa'uld, then you'll have to find another foe, which basically gets you into a DBZ type of situation (the replicators being a clever way of subverting that)
>money
So was O'Neill dying his hair or did just INSTANTLY go grey