Heathcliff was bland and generic before the current schizo took over and turned it into absurdist shitposting. Before Meat Helmets and Garbage Ape came around, the only reason anybody gave a shit about Heathcliff was the furry b***h from the 80s cartoon's companion segment, which would basically be the equivalent of people only talking about Garfield in the capacity of wanting to frick the girl sheep from US Acres.
also bad timing. Mel Blanc reprised his role as Heathcliff ( he voiced the character a few years back in an R-S cartoon that also starred Marmaduke) but he was also on his last legs.
Garfield was a relatable cat-focused comic for cat owners.
Heathcliff was never really going for that market, Garfield got popular because of its formula, not just because he's an orange cat. Jon unironically is super necessary to the appeal of Garfield as a comic. Heathcliff has no Jon (at least not in the same way)
>Garfield also had more of a bite.
You are moronic.
Garfield comic strip gags boil down to "Jon sucks", "I hate Mondays", "Odie is dumb", "I <3 naps and lasagna!"
It was the most insipid, braindead strip before being insipid and braindead was the standard. Garfield is the epitome of dumbing down and selling out for greeting card merch and big bucks.
Heathcliff had brawls, vandalizing, menacing, gang fights, food stealing, escaped convict dads on the lam, police shoot outs, sex, whoring, drugs, stabbings, murder, organized sports...
Basically, George Gately was trying to write Popeye but as a cat.
Heathcliff is just too hardcore for the newspaper grannies. It's why his first cartoon put him in the Plastic-Man cartoon block before the French came in, neutered him to shit and pushed all the hoodrat elements of Heathcliff to Riff-Raff and the Cadillac Cats.
IIRC Jean Chalopin came to DIC with an idea for mobster cats cartoon, execs said fine, as long as you attach it to something famous at the time, thus, he whole thing was born
>a comic that has appeared in millions of newspapers globally for decades + a tv show that aired on millions of screens worldwide was surpassed in popularity by niche internet hentai
For as bland as people say Heathcliff was, I think he was just to bland for children to relate to. Heathcliff and the Catillac Cats dealt with some topics that can fly over a kid's head. Mostly relationship drama.
Jim Davis worked for an advertising agency before becoming a cartoonist, so he probably knew how to market his comic early on better than most cartoonists
>Jim Davis worked for an advertising agency before becoming a cartoonist
Same with Hank Ketcham and Charles Schultz.
The madmen to funny papers pipeline was strong back if the day. bigger animation budgets too, which is why the kid's cereal commercials went so hard they had feature film money for 30 second ads.
Heathcliff was popular in the 80's, and still kinda is with newspaper syndication. But Garfield is just more memetic and merchandise-friendly. Also Garfield being sarcastic, cynical and lazy appeals more to people in the last 30 years.
Care to expand on that thought? Does she get catnapped every episode or something? Keep in mind I do not remember much of this show I was a wee one when it aired.
She has been kidnapped by a weirdo to make her a mascot for cat food
She's also been kidnapped by a wannabe sharif cat from Arabia
And another one or two catnappings.
But strangely enough, I only remember one time when Penny was kidnapped.
Anon is senile.
Cleo and Penny are nothing alike.
Cleo spends most episodes lounging around in the music shop waiting for Riff-Raff to stop doing tomcat shit with his hoodlum friends and... I dunno, settle down and get a real job or something? They spend most of her appearances beating off other cats trying to steal either her away or cheating with Riff-Raff.
Penny is subdued by MAD agents almost every episode.
So often there's an entire website dedicated to Penny in distress. The whole series is about her actively solving all her uncle's cases.
Heathcliff was bland and generic before the current schizo took over and turned it into absurdist shitposting. Before Meat Helmets and Garbage Ape came around, the only reason anybody gave a shit about Heathcliff was the furry b***h from the 80s cartoon's companion segment, which would basically be the equivalent of people only talking about Garfield in the capacity of wanting to frick the girl sheep from US Acres.
also bad timing. Mel Blanc reprised his role as Heathcliff ( he voiced the character a few years back in an R-S cartoon that also starred Marmaduke) but he was also on his last legs.
>also bad timing.
This.
Heathcliff should have been a 90's cartoon.
50's Marmaduke also got the shaft. They lobotomized old dawg but good.
Marmaduke and Heathcliff are basically the same strip, except one is a dog and the other a cat. No wonder they were in the same show.
>which would basically be the equivalent of people only talking about Garfield in the capacity of wanting to frick Nermal
ftfy :^)
Heathcliff < Isidoro < Berenguer
>Heathcliff < Isidoro < Berenguer
<Pícaro
Because it's somehow even more bland.
Garfield was a relatable cat-focused comic for cat owners.
Heathcliff was never really going for that market, Garfield got popular because of its formula, not just because he's an orange cat. Jon unironically is super necessary to the appeal of Garfield as a comic. Heathcliff has no Jon (at least not in the same way)
Garfield also had more of a bite. Not a lot of newspaper comic characters saying that some people deserve to be dragged into the streets and shot.
>Garfield also had more of a bite.
You are moronic.
Garfield comic strip gags boil down to "Jon sucks", "I hate Mondays", "Odie is dumb", "I <3 naps and lasagna!"
It was the most insipid, braindead strip before being insipid and braindead was the standard. Garfield is the epitome of dumbing down and selling out for greeting card merch and big bucks.
Heathcliff had brawls, vandalizing, menacing, gang fights, food stealing, escaped convict dads on the lam, police shoot outs, sex, whoring, drugs, stabbings, murder, organized sports...
Basically, George Gately was trying to write Popeye but as a cat.
Heathcliff is just too hardcore for the newspaper grannies. It's why his first cartoon put him in the Plastic-Man cartoon block before the French came in, neutered him to shit and pushed all the hoodrat elements of Heathcliff to Riff-Raff and the Cadillac Cats.
>Heathcliff had brawls, vandalizing, menacing, gang fights, food stealing, escaped convict dads on the lam, police shoot outs, sex, whoring, drugs, stabbings, murder, organized sports...
Pics?
watch the show
Heatcliff was simply ahead of it's time.
No one remembers him. His buddys from the junkyard however....
Weren't the Catillac Cats their own thing?
IIRC Jean Chalopin came to DIC with an idea for mobster cats cartoon, execs said fine, as long as you attach it to something famous at the time, thus, he whole thing was born
...and yet the Catillac Cats became more famous than Heathcliff thanks to porn makers.
>a comic that has appeared in millions of newspapers globally for decades + a tv show that aired on millions of screens worldwide was surpassed in popularity by niche internet hentai
You really think that?
Yes. No one's reading the tiny area reserved for the comic in the newspapers anyway.
But do ask a million furries worldwide and 70% remember this hot chick.
>ask a million furries worldwide and 70% remember [Cleo from Cadillac]
Doubt.
Garfield can be a jerk sometimes but he does so in a fun way, Heathcliff is just a unlikeable butthole
For as bland as people say Heathcliff was, I think he was just to bland for children to relate to. Heathcliff and the Catillac Cats dealt with some topics that can fly over a kid's head. Mostly relationship drama.
Jim Davis worked for an advertising agency before becoming a cartoonist, so he probably knew how to market his comic early on better than most cartoonists
>Jim Davis worked for an advertising agency before becoming a cartoonist
Same with Hank Ketcham and Charles Schultz.
The madmen to funny papers pipeline was strong back if the day. bigger animation budgets too, which is why the kid's cereal commercials went so hard they had feature film money for 30 second ads.
He's not funny. The comics, the cartoons...none of it.
Heathcliff is about your life?
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Heathcliff was popular in the 80's, and still kinda is with newspaper syndication. But Garfield is just more memetic and merchandise-friendly. Also Garfield being sarcastic, cynical and lazy appeals more to people in the last 30 years.
Mandatory.
Why it always gotta be those French/Japanese cartoons, bro?
HEATHCLIFF HEATHCLIFF
There's a jerk outside who is spamming pics of a green woman. I better bump this thread with best cat.
Catilac Cats was better
Why do I find that kinda hot? Its like Penny Gadget getting kidnapped.
Same animators.
They were into that shit.
The Japanese?
I mean this looks Japanese.
iirc Tokio Movie Shinsha animated some episodes.
Because Cleo is basically Penny anthro'd as a cat.
Care to expand on that thought? Does she get catnapped every episode or something? Keep in mind I do not remember much of this show I was a wee one when it aired.
She has been kidnapped by a weirdo to make her a mascot for cat food
She's also been kidnapped by a wannabe sharif cat from Arabia
And another one or two catnappings.
But strangely enough, I only remember one time when Penny was kidnapped.
Anon is senile.
Cleo and Penny are nothing alike.
Cleo spends most episodes lounging around in the music shop waiting for Riff-Raff to stop doing tomcat shit with his hoodlum friends and... I dunno, settle down and get a real job or something? They spend most of her appearances beating off other cats trying to steal either her away or cheating with Riff-Raff.
Penny is subdued by MAD agents almost every episode.
So often there's an entire website dedicated to Penny in distress. The whole series is about her actively solving all her uncle's cases.
>So often there's an entire website dedicated to Penny in distress.
Um, what is it? Asking for a friend.
Anon, what would you do with a cat in legwarmers with the anatomy of a humanoid the size of a Chucky doll?
too many helmets
anyone else grab the Cookie Jar DVD collection?