>Doubling resources takes space, and he's trying to solve overpopulation, which generally necessitates a lack of space
Or >"Resources" isn't a specific term and could mean anything for any given population centre, measured and accurate adjustments could well be impossible
Or >The Mad (mentally ill, insane) Titan wasn't using sound reasoning
This is the true endgame for all thanos related arguments - if he wasn't batshit insane then there's a million things he could do that would have helped more than galactic genocide but he didn't want to help, he wanted to kill people and pretend it was morally correct.
>thanos >the guy who spends half the time thinking and outsmarting his enemies >not logical
I don't care how crazy he is, Thanos is still an extremely intelligent person that puts together elaborate plans to pull off the impossible.
the reason, at one point, in teh comics was because ti was never about saving cultures from themselves. In Marvel, death has a consciousness. Thanos had a crush on that consciousness and wanted to impress her. So he sent her and assload of the dead. She didnt care and deadpool cucked him.
balance to save the universe is some bullshit made up for the mcu
He probably couldn't. Do you know how much harder that would be to do than kill half of all life? I can go out and kill a few guys right now, but I certainly can't go out and make a few resources.
On his home planet, he tried to convince his people to genocide half their population to solve their resource problems. If he admits now that there were better solutions to that situation, then he'd have to admit he was just an butthole who jumped to trying to start a genocide with no good reason. So he's just gotta keep doubling down for the sake of his ego.
>Doubling resources takes space, and he's trying to solve overpopulation, which generally necessitates a lack of space
Or >"Resources" isn't a specific term and could mean anything for any given population centre, measured and accurate adjustments could well be impossible
Or >The Mad (mentally ill, insane) Titan wasn't using sound reasoning
Is the 'why didn't he just increase the resources' thing a long running meme? The opening scene of Infinity War, and his scenes in Guardians 1, establishes he's a violent sadist who enjoys inflicting suffering on his enemies. His philosophy is a cover for his God complex and the trauma he endured when Titan was destroyed. It's not meant to be rational
The point is that Thanos prioritized being right over doing what was best for the universe. Think about it. If everything had gone exactly according to plan, if his forces had gotten the Stones on Earth without getting Avengered, Thanos would have completed the gauntlet on Titan, and done the Snap there. He wanted to point at the ghosts of his entire race and say "Look! I was right all along!"
>uses thing to kill half the population >destroys it so it can never be used again and the universe's population will go back to the way it was eventually >why? >BECAUSE HE'S CRRRRRAAAAAAZY
Past Thanos learned that he was going to win, but that people would be trying to undo his victory, and what did he do? He doubled down like a Karen willfully ignoring the return policy, going from "kill half the universe" to "kill the ENTIRE universe". Thanos knew himself well. He knew that he wouldn't be able to resist the temptation forever.
because the resources bullshit was just a way to deceive the people working for him, the poor fools thought they were saving the universe but the reality is that thanos just loves death (the character) and was courting her by killing quintillions of people
>99.99% of the universe is uninhabited >THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES, I HAVE TO KILL HALF OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW POPULATION GROWTH WORKS.
Unfortunately for him populations increase exponentially and double every generation
It took until 1974 to reach 4 billion people
We hit 8 billion in 2022
The worst part is that you don't even need the gems for that, you have the Pym Particles (virtually unlimited resources) and Start tech (unlimited energy), it's funny how Titan smartest guys can't create something that two humans were able to create.
Not to mention that Thanos killed half the universe, that means he killed half the resources too... this is a case of Marvel going the "realistic" route with a motivation that normies loved because "Thanos was right!!1!" instead of going the love to Death route.
Because it wasn't about actually saving the universe, it was about validating his butthurt feelings over his home being destroyed because they didn't listen to him.
>double resources >exponential population growth continues >worse off than you were within a generation
>half population >exponential population growth continues >still worse off within a generation, but at least you staved things off a bit
The real complaint is that he should have reduced every sentient race to a single population cluster sized so that they wouldn't reach their current population again for several thousand years. 1000 humans, less for things that breed like ants, more for things that breed like elephants.
>resources
Why didn't he wished for a philosopher's stone type of machine to make anything out of anything, like turn rocks into fertile land or into other philosopher's stones?
Because the producers wanted to make an allegory for Earth's current state along with justiftying any future act of forced depopulation. Not content with that, this scene makes Thanos stubborn as frick because there were a bunch of possibilities including but not limited to making the space itself bigger, or perhaps stimulate space colonization, among others.
Its worth pointing out that the people of Titan didn't die from starvation, they died from war. The number of resources wasn't what killed them, it was fighting over control of those resources.
Double or even triple what they had, and they still would have inevitably come to blows over it because there are always people who have a slice but want the whole pie.
Increase resources and the universe's population will just increase to match them.
Of course, deleting half the life in the universe is going to accomplish even less. For example, bacterial growth follows an exponential curve, so every generation is approximately 10x larger than the last. What that looks like is everything seems okay until the latest generation, where the population has suddenly bloated up enough to be a problem. The crash definitely comes in the following generation.
So if Thanos wanted to fix this problem in the universe for one generation, he should've wiped out 90% of the life. But then for one goddamn generation, 20-30 years, what's the point?
If you have a magical reality-control device like the Infinity Guantlet, rewrite the universe more like "organisms will reproduce until they begin to reach the limit of their resources, and then they will naturally reproduce only enough to maintain a stable population."
But no, Thanos wasn't really interested in solving a problem -- he just wanted to kill a lot of people.
Thanos was a b***h of the sunk cost fallacy. He didn't want to quit because he had invested everything in his plan, and changing course would mean that everything he invested in the plan was for nothing. He just didn't want to be wrong. Again, look at what happened when his past self learned that his grand victory would go completely unappreciated. Look at how offended Thanos was that everyone wasn't grateful.
So you know that Thanos might have known about the celestials would end up start booming out of the planets if he did double everything.
Eternals covered the issues about the celestials so I would imagine he know doubling everything would either destroy planets every where or stagnate the evolution of life by giving an easy give.
Without getting into the intricate details (germs, virus', bacteria, ect...)
Why not literally SHRINK Sentient Life and Non-Sentient Life?
Apples now feed 100 people instead of just one!
There's no 'perfect'
You have the infinity gems, it's up to you to define it.
The only thing that makes sense is using them to eliminate suffering and the suffering that comes from overpopulation, not murdering half of all life, or all of life.
Thanos in the MCU is a fricking idiot
He was a psychopath and to him his plan was all there was. That's the main point of him.
There's no 'perfect'
You have the infinity gems, it's up to you to define it.
The only thing that makes sense is using them to eliminate suffering and the suffering that comes from overpopulation, not murdering half of all life, or all of life.
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He was a psychopath and to him his plan was all there was. That's the main point of him.
Yes, he thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong and he wants to kill trillions. He's unwilling to listen to alternative viewpoints, and is morally okay with his decision. Thusly, a psychopath.
Populations inevitably grow and that's a fundamental aspect of reality, which is why he realizes he was wrong all along and wants to rebuild the universe from scratch. Except he didn't need to do any of it to begin with and could have simply philosophized with the greatest minds of the galaxy to, again, eliminate suffering caused by overpopulation to begin with.
I hate this shit because I think we need to cull humans because the earth demonstrably can't sustain this many of us (and why the frick do we even need 8 billion people). I mean it in a cool genocidal way but if I say it out loud redditards are going to start quoting fricking marvel movies at me
the answer to culling humans is not genocide it's population control, efficient use of resources and land distribution, and colonization of other bodies
But realistically that won't happen. What *can* happen is nuclear holocaust or erasing the worst offenders off the map one way or another
I seriously think this is the only chance humanity has
Because the writers didn't think this through. The amount of cope from anons itt about >w-well doubling the resources would case problems in the long run >take up space ect
While ignoring the fact that the infinity stones can do literally anything in terms of reality warping. If Thanos' intentions were truly benevolent, instead of killing half of all life, leading to the fricking cataclysmic societal depopulation and hysteria from that choice, he would've doubled the resources or made people more resilient or require less sustenance to maintain their populations. There are at least 5 things he could've done that would've saved the population of every species that did not involve mass depopulation, and literally anything would be better than that.
He didn't want to double resources, he wanted to kill half of all life
Why?
to woo death?
They retconned that in the MCU
I fricking wish. All the gays that act like normalgays can't understand a concept as universal as the Grim Reaper can go frick themselves.
>Doubling resources takes space, and he's trying to solve overpopulation, which generally necessitates a lack of space
Or
>"Resources" isn't a specific term and could mean anything for any given population centre, measured and accurate adjustments could well be impossible
Or
>The Mad (mentally ill, insane) Titan wasn't using sound reasoning
>Doubling resources takes space, and he's trying to solve overpopulation, which generally necessitates a lack of space
Then why he didn't use the Pym Particles to create more space?
Why not the space stone?
Because he's the Mad Titan, not the Logical Titan
This is the true endgame for all thanos related arguments - if he wasn't batshit insane then there's a million things he could do that would have helped more than galactic genocide but he didn't want to help, he wanted to kill people and pretend it was morally correct.
>thanos
>the guy who spends half the time thinking and outsmarting his enemies
>not logical
I don't care how crazy he is, Thanos is still an extremely intelligent person that puts together elaborate plans to pull off the impossible.
he gets cucked by death and deadpool regularly
i dont think hes that smart
He's courting a concept and losing to someone that breaks the fourth wall. He's doing better than anyone else would under those circumstances.
He's also been cucked by Ben Grimm
It literally took Adam Warlock pointing out that Thanos WANTED to be beat for him to realize he was constantly tripping himself up.
He didn't think about it. He's mad like some kind of... mad titan or something.
>Why didn't he just increase the resources?
the reason, at one point, in teh comics was because ti was never about saving cultures from themselves. In Marvel, death has a consciousness. Thanos had a crush on that consciousness and wanted to impress her. So he sent her and assload of the dead. She didnt care and deadpool cucked him.
balance to save the universe is some bullshit made up for the mcu
He probably couldn't. Do you know how much harder that would be to do than kill half of all life? I can go out and kill a few guys right now, but I certainly can't go out and make a few resources.
On his home planet, he tried to convince his people to genocide half their population to solve their resource problems. If he admits now that there were better solutions to that situation, then he'd have to admit he was just an butthole who jumped to trying to start a genocide with no good reason. So he's just gotta keep doubling down for the sake of his ego.
Is the 'why didn't he just increase the resources' thing a long running meme? The opening scene of Infinity War, and his scenes in Guardians 1, establishes he's a violent sadist who enjoys inflicting suffering on his enemies. His philosophy is a cover for his God complex and the trauma he endured when Titan was destroyed. It's not meant to be rational
Why didn't he just mentally project a 5 hour TED talk into everyone's brain about the dangers of overpopulation and give all men erectile dysfunction?
yeah, he could have made half of everything infertile.
Then he wouldn't feel validated about his views on Titan and wouldn't get an "I told you so".
Because he wanted to be right.
Jesus fricking christ, it's one thing to have a lot of dialogue, it's another to shove so much in that it has to leak onto every surrounding panel.
The point is that Thanos prioritized being right over doing what was best for the universe. Think about it. If everything had gone exactly according to plan, if his forces had gotten the Stones on Earth without getting Avengered, Thanos would have completed the gauntlet on Titan, and done the Snap there. He wanted to point at the ghosts of his entire race and say "Look! I was right all along!"
>Stones
opinion discarded
>uses thing to kill half the population
>destroys it so it can never be used again and the universe's population will go back to the way it was eventually
>why?
>BECAUSE HE'S CRRRRRAAAAAAZY
Past Thanos learned that he was going to win, but that people would be trying to undo his victory, and what did he do? He doubled down like a Karen willfully ignoring the return policy, going from "kill half the universe" to "kill the ENTIRE universe". Thanos knew himself well. He knew that he wouldn't be able to resist the temptation forever.
Because he didn't care about his bullshit supermath that makes no sense.
It's almost like having a guy like Thanos care about people instead of being a mythic villain in pursuit of a mythic goal was short sighted.
because the resources bullshit was just a way to deceive the people working for him, the poor fools thought they were saving the universe but the reality is that thanos just loves death (the character) and was courting her by killing quintillions of people
>99.99% of the universe is uninhabited
>THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES, I HAVE TO KILL HALF OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW POPULATION GROWTH WORKS.
>99.99% of the universe is uninhabitable*
> there's not enough resources locally available
Fixed. You can still be dying of drought and famine on the same day that someone a hundred miles away sits down to a feast.
Why didn't Hitler just displace all the israelites?
The allies blew up the railways so they had no choice but to keep them
Darn them Nazi allies hating those israelites imprisoned by their enemies the Nazis.
Winston churchill himself said we slaughtered the wrong pig in reference to the nazis
Anti semetism isn’t something new. We didn’t want israeli immigrants so we kicked our feet’s and didn’t get involved.
Unfortunately for him populations increase exponentially and double every generation
It took until 1974 to reach 4 billion people
We hit 8 billion in 2022
The worst part is that you don't even need the gems for that, you have the Pym Particles (virtually unlimited resources) and Start tech (unlimited energy), it's funny how Titan smartest guys can't create something that two humans were able to create.
Not to mention that Thanos killed half the universe, that means he killed half the resources too... this is a case of Marvel going the "realistic" route with a motivation that normies loved because "Thanos was right!!1!" instead of going the love to Death route.
Because it wasn't about actually saving the universe, it was about validating his butthurt feelings over his home being destroyed because they didn't listen to him.
>double resources
>exponential population growth continues
>worse off than you were within a generation
>half population
>exponential population growth continues
>still worse off within a generation, but at least you staved things off a bit
The real complaint is that he should have reduced every sentient race to a single population cluster sized so that they wouldn't reach their current population again for several thousand years. 1000 humans, less for things that breed like ants, more for things that breed like elephants.
Thanos is moronic
Bandage solution, would probably be his answer.
Real answer? He had to be right. Once he decided that half of existence's eradication was the way that was what was going to happen.
>resources
Why didn't he wished for a philosopher's stone type of machine to make anything out of anything, like turn rocks into fertile land or into other philosopher's stones?
I thought Death hired him to kill half of the universe's lives
>Main villain simps for the personification of a concept
Should have gone with Death
Because the producers wanted to make an allegory for Earth's current state along with justiftying any future act of forced depopulation. Not content with that, this scene makes Thanos stubborn as frick because there were a bunch of possibilities including but not limited to making the space itself bigger, or perhaps stimulate space colonization, among others.
Its worth pointing out that the people of Titan didn't die from starvation, they died from war. The number of resources wasn't what killed them, it was fighting over control of those resources.
Double or even triple what they had, and they still would have inevitably come to blows over it because there are always people who have a slice but want the whole pie.
Increase resources and the universe's population will just increase to match them.
Of course, deleting half the life in the universe is going to accomplish even less. For example, bacterial growth follows an exponential curve, so every generation is approximately 10x larger than the last. What that looks like is everything seems okay until the latest generation, where the population has suddenly bloated up enough to be a problem. The crash definitely comes in the following generation.
So if Thanos wanted to fix this problem in the universe for one generation, he should've wiped out 90% of the life. But then for one goddamn generation, 20-30 years, what's the point?
If you have a magical reality-control device like the Infinity Guantlet, rewrite the universe more like "organisms will reproduce until they begin to reach the limit of their resources, and then they will naturally reproduce only enough to maintain a stable population."
But no, Thanos wasn't really interested in solving a problem -- he just wanted to kill a lot of people.
Thanos was a b***h of the sunk cost fallacy. He didn't want to quit because he had invested everything in his plan, and changing course would mean that everything he invested in the plan was for nothing. He just didn't want to be wrong. Again, look at what happened when his past self learned that his grand victory would go completely unappreciated. Look at how offended Thanos was that everyone wasn't grateful.
He's called the Mad Titan, not the Reasonable Titan
So you know that Thanos might have known about the celestials would end up start booming out of the planets if he did double everything.
Eternals covered the issues about the celestials so I would imagine he know doubling everything would either destroy planets every where or stagnate the evolution of life by giving an easy give.
Without getting into the intricate details (germs, virus', bacteria, ect...)
Why not literally SHRINK Sentient Life and Non-Sentient Life?
Apples now feed 100 people instead of just one!
>Not just resetting the universe to be perfect.
moron.
There's no 'perfect'
You have the infinity gems, it's up to you to define it.
The only thing that makes sense is using them to eliminate suffering and the suffering that comes from overpopulation, not murdering half of all life, or all of life.
He was a psychopath and to him his plan was all there was. That's the main point of him.
Thanos in the MCU is a fricking idiot
Did you not watch the fricking movie?
Yes, he thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong and he wants to kill trillions. He's unwilling to listen to alternative viewpoints, and is morally okay with his decision. Thusly, a psychopath.
Populations inevitably grow and that's a fundamental aspect of reality, which is why he realizes he was wrong all along and wants to rebuild the universe from scratch. Except he didn't need to do any of it to begin with and could have simply philosophized with the greatest minds of the galaxy to, again, eliminate suffering caused by overpopulation to begin with.
I hate this shit because I think we need to cull humans because the earth demonstrably can't sustain this many of us (and why the frick do we even need 8 billion people). I mean it in a cool genocidal way but if I say it out loud redditards are going to start quoting fricking marvel movies at me
the answer to culling humans is not genocide it's population control, efficient use of resources and land distribution, and colonization of other bodies
But realistically that won't happen. What *can* happen is nuclear holocaust or erasing the worst offenders off the map one way or another
I seriously think this is the only chance humanity has
Because he needed to stop the giant Celestials from emerging from every planet and also he's insane so he doesn't realize that's what he's doing.
Why didn't Quill visit his grandpa when he was back on earth for Tony's funeral
Because the writers didn't think this through. The amount of cope from anons itt about
>w-well doubling the resources would case problems in the long run
>take up space ect
While ignoring the fact that the infinity stones can do literally anything in terms of reality warping. If Thanos' intentions were truly benevolent, instead of killing half of all life, leading to the fricking cataclysmic societal depopulation and hysteria from that choice, he would've doubled the resources or made people more resilient or require less sustenance to maintain their populations. There are at least 5 things he could've done that would've saved the population of every species that did not involve mass depopulation, and literally anything would be better than that.