Why didn’t he just wait until the next day when there wasn’t a storm?
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Why didn’t he just wait until the next day when there wasn’t a storm?
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had to shit
How did old man John Hammond get Malcolm from the bunker into the jeep at the end?
Malcolm used him as a crutch basically.
he had to get it on
the storm was the perfect time to leave the island undetected
I thought this too, but after thinking about it for a minute, he'd have to know Hammond would immediately suspect something is up when his only IT guy shuts down the park and goes missing. Maybe it would be easier to sneak out with everyone being evacuated, or his ship would be less conspicuous, but regardless, he'd be found out very quickly.
He wouldn't have suspected Nedry. The park systems were barely functioning anyway. It would have seemed normal.
Only coder on the isand. He had a whole staff back in Cambridge. They even reference it in the movie, when Hammond says to call his people, but can't, because the phones are down.
Which Cambridge?
Cambridge, Mass. It's mentioned a couple of times in the book. Irrc, he contracts through the InGen headquarters in Palo Alto, but his office is in Mass.
Heh!
I was living there around 1993.
didn't seem to have any trouble meeting Diddler Dodgson
He never intended to leave the island that day. He was going to get the can to the guy at the dock and be back at his desk and act like nothing happened.
He was literally trying to kill everybody.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU GET, HAMMOND
This
, Nedry wasn't trying to flee nor kill anyone. He thought the power would be out for like 20 minutes max, the dinos wouldn't do a thing, he'd get to the ferry and give them the can, and be back at his desk before anyone really even noticed. He'd then get everything powered back on and everyone would be safe and blame it on the hurricane plus bugs in the system with the program he was compiling which he told them about.
This. Did anyone even watched the movie
most anons on this board are deeply stupid
bullshit
why did he leave his dodgy script to turn off the cameras exposed for Samuel Jackson to find it?
he was never coming back
What would have been the point if Ingen could have just sued the shit out of him and pressed criminal charges? And Nedry wasn't a psychopath wanting people dead. If he pulled off the initial plan, no one would have been the wiser. The rivals would have had the dino samples, and he would have had the money, and could have quit at whenever he wanted.
This also begs the question - if Nedry had pulled his plan off successfully what would these competitors have done?
>finally, we have dinosaur embryos
>now we can open ANOTHER IDENTICAL dinosaur theme park in Australia, nobody will ever suspect us hahahaha
ingen had to invest a frickload of money to develop the cloning tech from the ground up, another company getting the mature tech can bring a product to market at substantially lower cost because they didn't have to pay for the development. it's implied that ingen is also deliberately working in a legal grey area because of ethics issues and their copyrights aren't easily enforceable (hence being located in a third world country instead of one with strong legal protections)
Ingen (and presumably their competitors) are headquartered in western countries with patent laws, so unless Dodgson worked for some South American drug cartel that was muscling in on the genetic research racket, that’s an easy court victory
site b is the real facility as per the lost world and that's located in costa rica. i think the fact that they're doing this kind of work so far away from any major research hubs or universities is meant to convey the dark nature of what ingen was actually up to
>site b is the real facility as per the lost world and that's located in costa rica.
No, it's not. It's on a neighboring island, of the 5 islands both were part of. The islands were part of Costa Rican territory. The park was Isla Nublar, and Site B was on Isla Sorna.
oh and chances are solid that ingen is actually incorporated in the cayman islands or a similar tax haven
Copyrights have nothing to do with it - it would be a patent claim, as parts of the process could be patented by InGen, along with the DNA for the dinos. Learn what copyrights are.
Most likely trade secrets in this case, patenting cutting edge research sends it out for everyone to see, would lessen the need for reverse engineering as Dodgson was planning to do. Costa Rica was just the perfect location: proper climate, isolated large island they were able to purchase outright from the government, part of a common tourist area, and yes limited government oversight. In the book though it’s pointed out that the industry in general has hardly any oversight regardless of where you are. Crichton’s more hardline themes always got neutered when put to film.
>Crichton’s more hardline themes always got neutered when put to film
which is sadly why there will never ever be a State of Fear movie, and if there was the terrorists would be given the sympathetic treatment
>why are corporate secrets valuable?
Right, so stealing something like the process they use to fill in gaps in the DNA sequence, or extract prehistoric DNA samples, or literally anything that’s hard to figure out, that would be worth stealing. Stealing the end product, the dinosaur embryos, is like sending a spy into the Coca Cola factory and having him come back with a can of Coke.
The embryos contain all of that.
>what is reverse engineering
Do you know anything of corporate secrets? Why the frick do you think they are super serious with security when marvel movies are being made?
Yeah, even the wireless system they use to record audio has security encryption.
Exactly. Marvel would shoot you in the head if you leaked shit, now imagine that with a dinosaur park, the 1st of its kind.
marvel operates above board in an established industry based in the united states with the full force of the federal government behind it. ingen is an operation so shady they have to hide their genetic engineering research offshore in central american shithole
They wanted to turn them into weapons. That is the whole point of Jurassic World media.
Yeah but that has always been a silly idea. How could you make weaponizing dinosaurs worth it? A trained military squad that had prepared to fight against dinosaurs and had enough ammo could easily wipe out hundreds of them. Dinosaurs might be a threat to isolated groups of unprepared humans but they would be no threat at all to an army.
I dunno, this b***h made it work. Raptors are pretty relentless and can navigate through urban environments easily.
No one would ever use this method in real life aside from mobster or cartel members executing their enemies.
So can drones or fricking dogs for that matter
it's the same logic as weyland-yutani trying to capture xenomorphs to use as a weapon. like using pathogens to attack your enemies, except instead of, say, anthrax you're shooting raptors at them
if nedry hadn't signed an NDA he more or less would have been untouchable, especially since ingen was operating in a national grey zone to begin with. what court do you even sue him in, assuming you can find him? it doesn't help that he wasn't a geneticist either
Not really. He did so so that Sampson couldnt try to turn the power back on before he got back. Nedry was gonna kill the power, go leave for 20 mins, come back and reactivate security. But the storm fricked his pacing up and the dilo got him so he never had a chance to reactivate shit before Sam discovered he turned shit off.
>why did he leave his dodgy script to turn off the cameras exposed for Samuel Jackson to find it
I don't think he left a dodgy script for anyone to find I think Sam Jackson and crew assumed what happened and went looking for what a fix.. That's when Nedry's firewall shut them out. It wasn't Nedry laughing at them or leaving a calling card it was Nedry's security system shutting out a hacker.
It was an excuse to shut down all alarming systems so he could steal the DNA of the dinos without alerting anyone
the storm caused most of the staff to be evacuated, perfect time to steal shit
Because he had to pass of the can to his contact on the ship and the ship was leaving that night.
>spared no expense
>except for the singular IT guy I employ who I underpay lmao
He wasnt the single IT guy, its just that he ended up being the guy who wrote the code. Sam Jackson's character was also an IT.
Wasn't sam jackson an engineer of some sort?
arnold was the other sysop but he didn't know about the backdoor nedry had snuck into the source code. hence the line about being able to figure out what he did if he went through the entire program line by line (which he does like a true autist and succeeds)
Arnold really was on top of shit until he wanted to wander out into the jungle. Why getting Arnold to that compound shed wasn't a top priority is a mystery. He and Muldoon should have went together.
I know they planned on filming Arnold's death scene at one point. I wonder if a description of the planned scene is out there anywhere..
Eh, it was probably gonna be arnold mumbling something in the shed hallway while some strange, small sound is heard.
Chief engineer. He runs the park, and I would guess oversaw the physical building of it, while Nedry and his people wrote the code.
he paid him what nedry bid
if nedry thought he was underpaid he shouldn't have submitted an underpaid bid
the implication is that because of hammond's cost cutting they hired an fricky scumbag developer who'd work for a cut rate no questions asked
Nedry was getting paid $150k per year, how he thought that wasn't enough is beyond me. I'm sure Hammond would have agreed to a raise once the park was open and the money starting pouring in.
>$150k per year
Huh? No, he wasn’t even on salary, he was contracted.
Thanks dad!
Nedry wasn't working alone, he had people working for him, as part of the contract.
Hammond just told him to make some code for a place and make it do this and that. But he didn't tell him it would have been for a fricking dinosaur zoo which had a ton more technical issues Nedry or anyone else for that matter, could have forseen or prepared for. The system worked perfectly as it was, but it didn't figure to count the animals past a certain number for example. And Hammond was all over Nedrys ass about it like it was his fault.
I recommend listening to his final moments in the book. Absolute kino and much more brutal than the movie
nobody watched it 🙁
I was watching it but then my grandma showed up and I had to do some shit.
I'll finish in a bit its pretty kino
seen it before
Gutted like a fish.
I don’t get why they didn’t make it more like the book. It seems easy to film and sounds fricking scary
Holywood always does that. They can't leave anything alone. They think they know better. "There's not enough action here, it's just exposition, cut it and have a dinosaur kill someone."
I rather l like the dialogue of the first Jurassic Park.
Jurassic World series is rather empty of it.
I like the deep conversation and the philosophical stuff, and general story telling in the first film.
Many movies and shows are missing that nowm
spielberg isn't an idiot and him and the EPs realized that there was a metric frickton of money to be made making the movie accessible to children. jurassic park filmed as an r-rated sci-fi horror would have earned a fraction of the box office take in a best case scenario
I wish the battle droids in Star Wars were terrifying like Terminators.
and the battle of endor would have been a million times better with wookies
>and the battle of endor would have been a million times better with wookies
and if Han and Leia actually had something to do instead of stand outside a door
The movie tones down the violence from the book, they didn't want to run the risk of getting an R rating
It's not even that different, except for the gore.
I like that the audiobook’s narrator sounds kind of like the announcer from the vehicles in the movie.
Movie version was better. The small size and the frills and getting into the car before killing Nedry was better than just another boring ass dinosaur kill
>boring ass dinosaur kill
Compared to what? This is actually on screen which most of them aren’t besides the lawyer guy. The frills were a nice addition even though I think they just made those up
He could plan everything from disabling the security systems with a backdoor all the way to being back in time so nobody noticed. But what he could not have prepared for, was the storm that had come.
the coolant in the shaving cream can wouldn't last that long
Cause postmans dont work on rainy days
As a USPS mail carrier, I assure you we certainly do.
postmen in costa rica have sticky fingers
>you can run the entire park from this room with minimal staff for up to 3 days
>unless the power goes out, then you have to walk outside for a half mile to a “shed” that’s actually a massive underground complex that you need a map to navigate because apparently signs were an expense that could be spared
>Old man says he spared no expense building park
>But doesn't build tunnel from HQ to power complex
Stupid film
hammond repeats that line as a tic because they cut every possible corner. classic liar tell and it's actually a nice touch
the thing that'll really bake your noodle is when you realize that the park itself was a potemkin village assembled for grant et al and probably the actual investors too. it was never intended to be even remotely close to a functioning product. ingen was really angling to get into the biotech weapons business, jurassic park was just vaporware
This website is ruining me
I thought he had the zoomer haircut from the thumbnail no cap
They gave him that hairstyle to make him look like a moronic homosexual. Mutt zoomers have it now an le don’t realize it has the same effect.
>first film
>Interesting themes about men playing god the corrupting influence of that power, how even well intentioned actions can lead to great struggle when we grapple with powers we don't fully understand
>Second film
>Uhhhh hunting bad... Efficient well organized animal husbandry bad... Acting like a doe-eyed petting zoo attendee with dangerous predators good!
Name a bigger downgrade.
it's amazing how phoned in Lost World is compared to Jurassic Park. It doesn't feel like a Spielberg movie at all
The whole point of the Pennycoat Lane story is to show he’s a grifter conman. “Spared no expense” is him selling a new flea circus.
plus it should be obvious that ingen is on the verge of bankruptcy, the only reason they bring grant to the island at all is because the investors are nervous
Why the hell to they travel to an island 150 miles away by boat?
I hope it's an ekranoplan or something else that skims water.
too expensive to fly in all the supplies. plus one can assume the deal ingen cut with the costa rican government (already a tourism-dependent economy) was that jurassic park visitors would have to come to the mainland first and then take a ferry to isla nubla, kind of like how disneyland visitors stay in anaheim and spend a bunch of money there between park visits
That takes too fricking long though with a conventional boat.
if you're running a theme resort you do it with a cruise ship or whatever. make the boat ride part of the experience, ez-pz. you can even have different pricing tiers, like a luxury ferry, a high-speed ferry, and a bare-bones economy ferry
It’s irrelevant, they never talk about how tourists will arrive. The only ones we see arrive by helicopter, moron. The boat in question was a SUPPLY BOAT. Every single island in the world is supplied by SUPPLY BOATS not airplanes because it costs way too fricking much.
But ingen enployees are to put up with that bullshit?
Why is there no lodging on any of the 5 islands?
Put up with what? Supply boats existing? And what the frick are you talking about lodging? Of course there was employee lodging. Fricking zoomer morons.
I actually enjoy the book and the film equally. The book gets a little schizo towards the end when they start shooting laser guided missiles at raptors but movie Hammond is much more likable
it was an interesting choice by spielberg to make hammond into walt disney instead of bill gates
More like Musk but yeah any eccentric billionaire fits the bill
the novel version of hammond is way for of a profit-obsessed miser, movie hammond has a dream he's trying to obtain. there's a big difference between freakishly rich men who focus on getting more money despite already having more than they can ever possibly spend and freakishly rich men who devote themselves to eccentric pursuits
Yeah I like that he gave Hammond a more sympathetic angle, he works better as a dreamer who got too carried away with his work and overestimated himself because of it.
I also like that Lost World has him try to rectify his mistakes but ultimately still has a little bit of a god complex, makes him much more interesting than just being an butthole businessman like most irl.
Because hes a fat frick who deserves to be stabbed 50 times in the chest and face.
The actor and the character.
t. Jerry
The supply ship he had to flee on was infrequent if I remember correctly, he couldn't just up and leave on a helicopter whenever like Hammond and his guests.
It would be a huge pain in the ass to build an airport capable of handing planes for tourists - which would also freak the dinosaurs out flying overhead. And, they'd have to have a customs office, as tourists from the first world would be entering Costa Rican territory. Both an airport and a customs presence would put the Costa Rican government on the island, and they'd avoid that at al costs.
Much easier to let the mainland do that, and ferry them in. Plus, they can charge more for it. Pus it helped the plot Crickton wrote.
plus the mainlaind costa rican economy would get a boost from the influx of tourists, which is the sort of deal most governments would make in a heartbeat. hell they probably even waived taxes for ingen altogether
Everything was arranged in person for the deal to go down that night. Nedry couldn't just call up Dodgson and have it delayed because of a storm.
plus dodgson had already paid nedry a frickload of cash upfront so he'd be in deep shit if he didn't deliver
>As a USPS mail carrier,
>they embryos are very fragile, you will only have about 24 hours to get out
>I've set the program to a timer
he had locked himself in with his shitty code
always give yourself backdoors kiddos
>because in the book
shut up about the book
SHUT UP ABOUT THE BOOK
I miss Crichton so much
>JP1 novel
>Here's why a dinosaur amusement Park is a stupid idea and it will never work
>JP2 novel
>here's why a "lost world" island filled with dinosaurs will kill itself in a few years
The man never stopped poking holes in the idea of cloning dinosaurs, even though he's the one that came up with it. He still managed to do it while adding gory scenes, dinosaur action and memorable characters.
The fact that the movies twisted it into "these are magnificent creatures that should be left alone on their paradise island" is so disingenuous that it hurts. It screams of hack liberal Hollywood writers.
Yeah but to be fair, from what I remember the Lost World book is really bad too. And so is everything that Crichton wrote after Jurassic Park, as far as I know. He still had some interesting ideas but the actual quality of his writing turned into utter shit. Not that it mattered, people would buy his books one way or another.
I just watched this recently. Because the ship was there at that time and leaving soon. He had a tight window. Also just noticed for the first time, he planned on getting out and back in unnoticed. He lied to them about why the security systems would be down, but they panicked anyway and were like "where the frick is he"? He's plan would of failed, storm or no storm.