>Be Georgy Zhukov.
>Famous WW2 war hero
>Evil Stalin died
>Helped overthrow Beria
>Didnt take over as the next leader of Soviet Union
Wtf? He Couldve opened free trade with America instead of smuggling Pepsi
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Why didnt he take over after Stalin died? Is he retarded?
Because Lazar Kaganovich was the real leader of the USSR. Stalin and the other clowns were just figureheads.
the kinoest of all kino entrances
Looks nothing like him. 0/10; You're all gays.
Fun fact: the real Zhukov had more medals, but Jason Isaac's chest wasn't broad enough to fit them all.
Further fun fact: Unlike most people who wear that many medals, Zhukov actually legitimately earned every single one of them.
Wow, he sent men to their doom, such bravery
>he sent men to their doom
The alternative was not doing so and letting the Nazis kill all of them.
Or doing so incompetently, failing, and the Nazis kill all of them.
It's one of the reasons even anti communists respect Zhukov. He is a legitimate soldier and legitimate leader.
Toward the end of their respective lives, he and Eisenhower were pals.
Eisenhower even gave him some fishing gear and Zhukov proudly used it until the end.
>Zhukov actually legitimately earned every single one of them.
That's absolute bullshit.
Zhukov was a military man with little in the way of political canniness. His sheer competence (by Russian standards) is what kept him alive and in charge of things, not his ass-kissing skills. He might've had the army at his back, but he never had political ambitions, so he never bothered cultivating support for any such attempt at taking power for himself.
IIRC The soviet union was afraid of a Napoleon like figure, who could win over the people's support with military merit. Stalin already kept a close eye on him and so did all major figures in the party. If he had tried something he might have had few supporters outside the red army. Who knows, if he had won some sort of major political battle early on the rest of his opposition within the party might have turned coat and Zhukov could have made it to the top.
How did actual Stalinist tankies react to this film?
poorly
Isaacs killed it as Zhukov.
Though I found it fascinating that Zhukov was literally, unironically a badass for real though.
I like the common portrayal of Zhukov as this badass Soviet no-nonsense general who drank Coke disguised as vodka that has been smuggled through Austria but holy shit the cult of personality he has is so weird to me. Like sure, compared to the rest of morons in the Soviet Army during WW2 he was actually somewhat competent but he's also the dude that said the best way to remove a minefield is by ordering soldiers to walk through it. If he were in any other army but Soviet one he'd be remembered as a bloodthirsty butcher with no regard for own casualties. Majority of his field success can also be attributed to his junior officers which did most of the work. Zhukov just funneled meat to where he thought it was most useful and wasn't afraid to tell Stalin bad news or to frick off if his ideas were dumb.
>Zhukov just funneled meat to where he thought it was most useful and wasn't afraid to tell Stalin bad news or to frick off if his ideas were dumb.
That is literally the job of a general so who cares?
The reason your argument falls apart is because he had to work with the tools he was given.
because he is a gentile
They completely fabricated the reason for Beria's downfall. The intense period of purges and shooting people had also ended by that time.
I read 3 Stalin biographies after watching this movie. I didn't retain that much because I think I have early onset dementia but I do recall that the secret police chief before Beria was maybe the most degenerate human being I'd ever encountered, he made Beria look like a saint.
genrikh yadoga?
yeah dude was a fricking freak
everyone in the politburo was so freaked out by him (and this is 1930s SU we're talking about) that they had him killed the second he outlived his usefulness during the purges, whereas Beria was kept around because stalin needed someone to keep everyone on there toes.
You mean Yezhov?
Probably calling it a moronic West propaganda. I know Russian gov had banned the movie, though. Kinda funny, cause the parallels are there.
>Evil Stalin
lel
>Why didn’t he take over after Stalin died?
Because he wasn't moronic. He understood that the ability to lead an army is not the same skill set as the ability to lead a state.
>Because he wasn't moronic.
Read Syvorov's book about Zhukov. He absolutely was moronic.
>Or doing so incompetently, failing
That was Zhukov's modus operandi.
>Read Syvorov's book about Zhukov. He absolutely was moronic.
Well he wasn't sufficiently moronic enough to want to run the Soviet Union, then.
Also I'm always leery of people who say "read this one book by this one author about the subject that contradicts what everyone else says, but is totally right as compared to everyone else." Like it's one thing to want to chart your own course, or to not blindly accept what the majority says, but it's another to start arguing that 2 + 2 = 5.
Let me guess, you believe in the vaxx and climate change too?
Fricking moron
>and climate change
I mean this is the first time in my lifetime that a wildfire in Canada was so bad that it put people in Massachusetts at risk from smoke.
You'd have to be an absolute idiot to deny climate change at this point. Like, the utter dregs of humanity. The height of foolishness and the depths of stupidity combined into a single perfect moron.
No one is denying climate change. It’s the causes and human impact that is being denied.
lol, for the canadian forrest fires are genuine and not man made. As the forrest fires in the pacific west 2020.
>Read Syvorov's book about Zhukov. He absolutely was moronic.
And yet the Nazis still lost to him. Do they get the grand prize for stupidity for losing to a moron?
>And yet the Nazis still lost to him.
No, they lost to Land Lease + throwing millions of Soviets to their deaths.
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And who launched a war against the Soviets who could afford to throw millions to their death to achieve victory?
And who declared war on a power that could afford to flood their now mortal enemies with Lend Lease?
Clearly the Germans are strategic and tactical masterminds.
The western powers declared war on CHAD Hitler, because his big dick energy was taking all the hot woman from around the world. Hitler tried to make peace with them by giving up the uglies, but the incels stalin and roosevelt couldn't stand it.
Doesn't change the fact Zhukov was a moron.
Because he's a soldier, not a politician. You wouldn't get it.
It was not a fricking popularity contest.
He was too famous for his own good. IRL he was very closed from being purged
He was actually purged, but just deranked, Stalin knew he couldn't kill him. He actually had to climb back the ladder after the war
Why are commies such incompetent morons?