Why didn’t Mad Men have the same cultural staying power as the Sopranos or Breaking Bad?
Why didnt Mad Men have the same cultural staying power as the Sopranos or Breaking Bad?
Why didn’t Mad Men have the same cultural staying power as the Sopranos or Breaking Bad?
the ending was pretty shit
it's hands down one of the best series endings of all fricking time
pete bros, we won
so KEKED don gives all his money to megan and fricks off to some stupid ass hippie resort. yeah, great ending.
almost like Don got all the money and women he wanted throughout the series only to realize it never made him happy, do you homosexuals even open your eyes when watching a show?
So he gives ALL his movie in a divorce to his second wife, instead of giving some to his THREE fricking kids. For what purpose? He never loved her, he just married her because she was in her 20s and smoking hot.
money*
he feels guilty for taking her youth and turning her life upside down, kids were loaded with money because their mom married some rich frick. Jesus anon
>taking her youth
she lived lavishly in LA while Don was working his balls off. besides, she was a fricking secretary to begin with. he gave her everything from the start.
pretty sure that was all he had left.
you are beyond autistic
lol
Holy shit you're a dumb frick. Stick to your breaking bad capeshit slop
He only gave her 1 million, he had plenty more. Clearly you're too fricking dumb for this show.
>smoking hot
>all his money
hhahahahahahahaha
>Everybody got what they wanted in the end
Unironically based as frick
It did, only in more elite circles.
The elite don't watch tv, you'd know this if you were one of us
truepost
it really had no story, it was just coasting on style
what? it had a several central themes that define the show throughout it's entire run. Mad Men feels much more like a story than sopranos. we watch don halfway through a marriage and the end of it, and then we watch the cycle repeat, we watch his misery and success grow. His life changes, his status in relationships and business changes.
you can hardly say any of that about sopranos, or breaking bad
It had 0 plot. We were just tuning into their lives once a month.
Reminder they literally stole a plot line from the Simpsons (Amar Tarzarian).
>Amar Tarzarian
Armin Tamzarian
Jon Hamm is neither Bryan Cranston nor James Gandolfini
jon hamm rules
without him, there is no show
Frago could have done without him
All 3 were perfect for their roles
It did. There's a reason I drink, smoke filterless Luckies and have sex with beautiful women everyday.
cause it's unironically far superior, and therefore less accessible, than sopranos
let's not even bring breaking bad into the same discussion, it's nowhere near the same level as those 2
I wouldn't say it's "far superior" to the Sopranos, it's just a little more oblique with its themes. I believe it's fair to say the two represent the pinnacle of television
Now this is some real moronic shit.
>I wouldn't say it's "far superior" to the Sopranos
Yeah, they're exactly the same. There is entirely zero difference between these two "shows", they are identical
It came out when breaking bad was airing on AMC at the same time. Mad men was always 2nd and always lost the awards which didn’t help
And they always showed it right before Breaking Bad. I remember turning on AMC to watch Breaking Bad and seeing the end of Mad Men episodes, so it fricking spoiled parts of it when I finally watched it...
because it botched the ending and cowardly refused to criticize marketing as a concept.
Most shows cowardly refuse to criticize water as wet
A mob boss or a drug dealer vs an idea guy in a marketing department. Most people, even the people who actively engages needs to get hooked.
So if something doesn’t involve crime it will be forgotten?
I really expected him to strip and walk off into the ocean, especially after the ad he proposed of that. I guess that was too obvious of an ending.
no but the theme doesn't appeal to most people since they don't care about office work and there's no comedy involved. With crime you have lots of opportunity for tense situations.
Not appealing enough to normies because it doesn't involve gangsters or crime. Also smokingschizo has been summoned by this thread, nice
Loved the show, but there was way too much bullshit with irrelevant characters like Joan's wife, the priest, Peggy's boyfriend, etc. They added nothing to the show.
It definitely could have been condensed down to 10 episodes a season by removing all the extra bullshit
Because it was fricking boring. Literally nothing ever happened. Whoever created this piece of shit must have cynically thought that there are enough dumb people out there who think that boring = prestige tv.
turbo pleb giga filtered
the mad men guy was a homosexual who men can't relate to
1 million in 1968 is nearly 9 million today btw
Why wasn’t the last seven episodes Don’s real identity getting exposed?
because it didn't matter. they come up with the real identity crap and then it never had any relevance to the plot whatsoever.
Who cares?
cooper was cold af, pulls this but then proceeds to basically blackmail Don into signing a contract with the very same knowledge
Cooper scenes are always a highlight
>Sacagawea carried a baby on her back across the land, and somewhere that baby thinks it's discovered America
have a nice day evil scum
>mad men wasn't as popular when it was airing compared to the sopranos or breaking bad,
Yes, it was. None of the three were popular at all.
The show should have ended with them all putting Don on a train car tied to a chair and running him out of town like that one Simpsons episode.
Doesn't appeal to morons like Breaking Bad. Doesn't appeal to (well-made) slop enjoyers like The Sopranos
Because it is a soap opera for women. It's all about fee fees and relationships.
mad men wasn't as popular when it was airing compared to the sopranos or breaking bad, it won a lot of awards but it didnt get massive viewers so not as many people saw it. it's also a lot slower paced than something like breaking bad and doesn't rely on shocking twists and violence so heckin ebin memers on twitter and youtuber never latched onto it. it filtered the plebs.
John hamm is a gayboy loser that's why. Lamaooo
have a nice day evil scum
>advertisements are sophisticated intellectuals
have a nice day israelite. This "show" is nothing but an advertisement.
Not enough action or plot twists to keep american minds interested.
Way too high brow for the average viewer.
I still have not finished Madmen, and I am half way through the last season. Just seemed to drag on with nothing really happening, but I kept watching for some closure. Succession did the same thing.
s5 onward takes off like a rocketship and never touches down again bro
you're in for a fricking treat
>and I am half way through the last season.
nevermind, you're just a filtered ass homo
stick to breaking bad dipshit
>stick to breaking bad dipshit
What is this shit? They're the same "show", the same morons like both of them
It didn't tell an interesting story. Characters were kinda buttholes so it couldn't rely on comfy watchers.
>Characters were kinda buttholes
yeah if you're a homosexual
>Characters were kinda buttholes
Real people are buttholes. This show has the most realistic characters ever.
Because the show was mid, doesn't matter what homosexuals on here say. I don't care about your boomer envy. Oh muh Don is depressed...why? Because he just is okay! Peggy a pedophile for some reason derp derp... Oh no Peggy has a baby! Wait until this leads to absolutely nothing! Oh look gay dude in da 60's? AHHHHH I'M LOSING MY MIND!!!!...ANNND the gay dude is never brought up again....muh advertising business gets swallowed by other company???? Muh domestic abuse kinda? Muh fake murder a hooker? Muh let's all pretend to care about MLK's death??? This show is such overrated trash it's unreal. Nothing ever properly followed up on. It's just a boomer simulator... wouldn't even call this a tv show.
not enough explosions or cartels
Too feminine.
more thematic and atmospheric whereas brainlets and normies only care about plot. they can't comprehend anything stylistic or thematic, their brains revert to just spewing "but but but nothing happens!"
this
the amount of nuance in the character relationship dynamics and development alone is enough to filter the 99% of the audience
There was no nuance. The show is garbage. You're jealous of boomers. That's all. have a nice day.
the breaking bad cucks always get so mad so fast
>muh vibe muh style who cares about story
Lol typical midwit
Black personbrains lose interest with no violence/criminality
I think everyone ITT is missing the obvious: Sopranos and BB are both crime stories and more action-oriented than Mad Men. The reason the former two have more cultural staying power than Mad Men is that the average person is just more inclined to watch something with crime/action than a drama
The show only appealed to old people who want to revisit muh 60's decade, titty lovers who wanted to see Hendricks, and pedos for Shipka.
It's gay womanshit. Breaking Bad is capeshit so it's no better. Out of those three only Sopranos is watchable.
Because it's a character drama, and like most character dramas it filters out midwits
If a midwit cannot talk to their friend and say "Yo bro! Did you see that shit last night? That was crazy yo! DAMN!", then the show is considered "boring"
Another good example is Lost. A masterful character piece framed by the mysteries of the island that midwits misunderstood as a science fiction show that just happens to spend 90% of the time on character interactions, flashbacks, montages etc
I was with you until that last line. Lost turned to complete shit by S5 and all the "It's about da characters!" is just cope.
Yes it did but the point is, people hate the show because it didn't "answer their questions". Also common for morons to think "everyone was dead all along".
I personally see it as 3-4 great seasons of character drama, followed by 2 dissapointing ones that don't ruin what came before
The problem is, they answered a good amount of the questions, but it was in such a shit and boring way.
>Whispers?
Yeah, it's dead people or something. Also, have the fat frick spell it out for the audience by going "Yeah, I get it. The whispers are all the people who died, right?"
>Smoke Monster?
Yeah, it's from a magical light, don't ask. I read half a dozen fan theories back in the day that were 100x more interesting and complex for its origins.
>Why are they all there?
Uh, because we need to have a jedi fistfight showdown at the end.
Lindelof, Cruse, and JJ Abrams are colossal hacks. It's why I'll never watch a mystery box show ever again.
>it's dead people or something
It was The Others.
>it's from a magical light
Sort of.
>we need to have a jedi fistfight
They're candidates.
Several clips or pics remain popular memes to this day. I would consider that cultural staying power. If you describe someone as a "Don Draper type," people will know exactly what you mean. It's still really popular.
>If you describe someone as a "Don Draper type," people will know exactly what you mean
how do I get people to stop describing me this way bros?
You have to live with that curse, anon.
No stakes, it was mostly "Don wins the dramatic face-off at the office, drinks too much, and cheats on his wife." Entertaining show, but not compelling.
Because deep down we all know that the advertising industry is parasitic and responsible for all of the brainwashing shit you guys all complain about day in and day out.
I work in advertising doing don's exact job
it fricking rules and everyone is cool as hell and weird and funny
Do you guys drink and do a lot of drugs? What are the women like who work in advertising now?
there's a literal reefer break room, drinking is fine as long as you're not too obvious about it
most of the women are cool and talented, some are pretty hot, the copywriters are all psychos
Does it pay well, or is it like some artistic work where people will work cheaply because so many want to be in field?
>Does it pay well
Yes.
unironically due to the final season and finale. same with succession. Succession was short and sweet with its appeal, decent enough characters UNTIL the director threw the whole finale for some feminist pussy. imo it couldve gone into the history books as tier 2 below sopranos/breaking bad. But, the directors or producers recently dont like the moneyshot ending or making people feel good in the end, which affects the replayability factor.
The Succession finale was good though Kenbro