why didnt sauron put any guards at the only entrance to the place you can destroy the ring?
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why didnt sauron put any guards at the only entrance to the place you can destroy the ring?
it was hubris
Just like Jazz
what about a fence or a gate or something?
that was the whole point of the diversion, why aragorn led all his men to the black gate
He couldn't spare a handful of orcs to stop sam and frodo?
the last time he felt the ringbearer was at osgiliath when the nazgul attacked, he didnt know the ring had made it up the hidden entrance past shelob's lair
Couldn't he plot their last known positions and figure out where they were tracking towards
He did and figured it was Minas Tirith. Aragorn revealed himself with the Palantir and pretended to have a level of confidence that implied he had the Ring. All available intelligence suggested Aragorn had the Ring, had defeated the host of Minas Morgul because of it and was arrogantly marching to the Black Gate with the arrogance only someone wielding the Ring would have. Sauron knew the prophecy associated with Narsil and jumped to conclusions. Gandalf was with Aragorn and of course he would be personally protecting the ring bearer.
The idea that the Ring could be with two Hobbits on the way to Mount Doom never even crossed his mind and is completely ridiculous given the circumstances as he understood them.
Also Sauron believed in this because that's what he would do if he was Aragorn. Gandalf knew this.
In Tolkien, evil is ultimately dumb.
>evil is ultimately dumb
Truth be told, Sauron actually had a great plan. He knew that the ring would corrupt anyone eventually and so you could use it against him but in doing so you would destroy what you wanted to preserve by fighting him to begin with. The only people ever capable of wielding the ring for a long time had no ambition like Hobbits. Essentially because there was next to nothing to corrupt because they were so simple and Sauron didn't really know about them.
The fact that Frodo and Sam got to the volcano isn't a plothole but rather just the result of information Sauron can't be expected to know. Similarly Sauron couldn't have known that God himself was going to push that gangly frick Gollum into the lava with the ring.
tl;dr
Gandalf thought of a plan so monumentally moronic with such an insanely high chance of failure that nobody could have anticipated him actually risking the fate of the world on what was essentially a roll of the dice.
It went without notice because Gandalf had utter faith in Frodo's inner strength based on his experiences with Bilbo, and Sauron was like "what the frick is even a hobbit?"
You can decide for yourself whether that was microbrain or galaxybrain
It was foretold by the song of Iluvitar which Sauron and his pimpdaddy Morgoth never cared for.
Gandalf is partially clairvoyant
he gets vague notions of whether things will work, and understands group dynamics very well
He made plans based on what he knew, and has done it more than once
I'd say galaxybrain
Sauron was right anyways, nobody would willingly destroy the ring. The ring was destroyed because notyhwh intervened.
Because Mount doom was simply a volcano, yes it did respond to Sauron's presence but aside from it being the only place you could destroy the one ring, it was an ordinary volcano.
Sauron did not ever conceive that someone would willingly cast the ring into the magma, so the idea of protecting the volcano was redundant
zoning laws
Actually Frodo and Sam showed up on a weekend and due to budget cuts, the guards were only posted Mon-Fri.
why didn't he just make a door or something and lock it
The only guys he could trust with the ring were the 9 and they were busy elsewhere.
An orc or man would just take it for himself and that is why we are told again and again in the books that the orcs have no idea what they are actually looking for and are explicitly not being told.
The security was the 50 000 orcs and goblins he had in his lands. I guess it's the same logic as to why commercial aircraft don't have keys for the ignition, they rely on the security of the airport itself
Sauron was a greedy israelite who fired the volcano guards since their positions hadn't been relevant in thousands of years.
Its ok to have plotholes, and yes this is one of them.
Yeah like the jan 6. plothole. No way the US government would leave themselves so exposed people can just walk in.
Completely different. The protestors were deliberately let in just so they could b***h about it later. It's not like they sneaked in.
Why didn't he just collapse or block off the only entrance to the only place where he can be defeat?
Because then the hobbits would have had to of climbed to the lip of the volcano.
>why didnt sauron put any guards at the only entrance to the place you can destroy the ring?
the movies aren't canon
Didn't feel like it
>And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.
>From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain. At his summons, wheeling with a rending cry, in a last desperate race there flew, faster than the winds, the Nazgûl, the Ringwraiths, and with a storm of wings they hurtled southwards to Mount Doom.
Did a RingWraith even get near the hobbit team as Gollum did his party trick into the lava?
No, I don't think so. It didn't take particularly long for the whole encounter between Frodo and Gollum anyway. Regardless, considering Eru was willing to get involved personally because he knew that nobody could willingly cast the ring, I'm sure he would have also found some way to intervene if Frodo and Gollum were taking a long time and a nazgul did arrive.
I have this copy of The Lord of the Rings and it is based beyond belief.
Because he never even considered someone might want to destroy it. He was 100% convinced the ring would tempt everyone into greed and desire to claim it, he didn't account for the good guys to stumble upon some weird farmer mutant species that literally has 0 ambitions therefore have no need for rings. Even the hobbits fell to the ring in the end though, at least Frodo did but Gollum ironically caused the ring's destruction with his greed.
Did Dayton know the ring could be destroyed in mt doom
No amount of plot reasons can change the fact that Sauron should have Tartar Steppe'd a few orcs at the entrance to the only place in the world that could destroy his ring.
Or just have the door closed.
Just that.
>should have
He should have, he didn't and he was destroyed. Great writing if you ask me.
He did. He literally had a gigantic army of guards, and they even caught Frodo and Sam at one point. Hobbits are very sneaky
He should have put a final epic orc warlord boss there for Frodo and Sam to beat using synchronized cooldowns and optimal dps rotations
And then Optimus prime can fall from the sky on a meteor as mt doom erupts and proclaims that the ring is actually a mcguffin used to unite the transformers and that frodo needs to protect it as Megatron comes down on another meteor calling prime a b***h or something.
Oh wait sorry we were talking about an actual story weren't we.
frodo and sam had literally nothing left. he could have velvet ropes in front of the entrance and the mission would have failed
didn't read the books but is there proof that "god" pushed Golum in the lava?
It's all well explained.
Also Numenor was sunk by God into the ocean because it got corrupted by Sauron as well.
Every time Sauron tries something God intervenes.
I don't know why Sauron even bothers, knowing that the game is rigged.
Very Sisyphean.
so all these "why didn't he build a door" and "muh plot hole" gays are pointless since god will make the story end anyway
>Tolkien's self-insert will make sure the story ends somehow
yes, I imagine so.
He has a spider and fort full of orcs
Sauron could not concieve of a being pure enough in Middle Earth to actually resist the ring and cast it into the flames. And he was right Frodo was broken and about to pull an Isuldur before Gollum came charging in like a madman and tripped into the Volcano with the ring
The ring is kind of like the throne of the emperor of Warhammer 40k
Frodo is Horus
Sam is khorne
Emperor is sauron
The ring is the good of humanity encaged
Horus is trying to free humanity from the evil emperor
You can't really counter this with guards