>why didnt they >why didnt they >why didnt they
because that wasnt the story you stupid fricking nerd. go try writing a story and then solve the problem in 2 paragraphs with some dumbass "trick" and see if anyone ends up paying attention.
I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
However, even without the Ring, Sauron could have taken over Middle-Earth and likely would have eventually. It needed to be destroyed for that reason too, not only to keep it out if his hands.
>I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
Great, now some horrible cthulhu monster is possessed by the ring.
>I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
This exact idea is discussed in the Council of Elrond in the book. It's dismissed because of what you said, the Ring needed to be destroyed because Sauron would have won through war otherwise, and eventually would have recovered the Ring anyway.
The story showed that even with the ring Sauron could be defeated, and at the end of the 3rd age the races of Middle Earth were weak enough that Sauron didn't even need the ring to conquer them. Bravo Tolkien, your MacGuffin had no impact on the story.
Why didn't Aragorn get the ghost army to kill all the orcs in mordor? >It wasn't their oath
Yeah I know, But he could of at least asked and didn't seem that hard for them to do it? It would of taken like 2 hours and they'd been undead for 1000 years at that point, Why would they even care?
It's a glaring plothole, but the best I can figure is that they were oathbound to help in a single battle, as when they were alive they were called to fight in a battle, not a war. Still a weak excuse though.
The ghost army is far and away the corniest shit in all of LotR. The way they zerg rush Sauron's army in the movie looks like it came straight out of a cartoon.
Sauron was more scared of the ring being used against him than him not having it for battle, the thought of it ever being destroyed never crossed his mind. This was why he was okay with challenging Aragorn with his army as a human would not be able to master the ring in such a short amount of time. Since all the intel he had pointed to Aragorn as the current ring bearer.
Why didn't they just drop the ring into a huge bucket of egg whites so nobody would be able to pick it out? Like when you can't get pieces of egg shell out.
LOTR is very weird when yiu think about it, i dont know about the books but the movies are almost a deconstruction if famous fantasy, except this is the series thatvmade fantasy famous. I was expecting knights fighting dragons, like real classic fantasy stuff but the movies are not that at all.
It kind of was a reaction, in its time. Most fantasy hearkens back to 1000-1400s Europe with aspects of Arthurian legend. Tolkien wanted to capture the spirit of Anglo-Saxon culture from 600-1000 AD. So LotR feels a world apart from traditional fantasy, while still feeling familiar because it draws from a part of English history that predates French influence.
I'd classify LoTR as mid-fantasy.
High-fantasy is where magic and mythical creatures are widespread like D&D, it's pretty rare in Hollywood since it's expensive to make.
Low-fantasy is something more like Game of Thrones where all that exists but it's so rare in the world.
You are messing up "fantasy" with "magic"
D&D is "high magic" fantasy
Game of thrones has nothing "rare", you are just being bamboozled by the lore actually telling you it's rare when in reality nothing is rare >Here's a dragon but it's rare, well here two or three more >Here's a giant but it's rare, well here's two or three more >Here's a guy that comes back from the dead but it's rare, well here's him coming again and again and again >Here's blood magic but it's rare, well, here's again and again
and the list goes on and on
Basically you are a sheep and believe everything you read without critically analyzing that it's not true.
Only three of something is incredibly rare especially since they used to have a city full of thousands of them. Most living people had never seen real physical evidence of them so they were taken as exaggerated myth. One of the big plot points you seem to have missed is that the dragon eggs hatching is what brought real magic back into the world. It did not work at all and hadn't worked worked for many decades or more since all the dragons died off. Small sects of people still practiced them just as tradition but didn't get much of a result besides the most mild effects. Giants were also rare and only in the far North where people rarely went.
>my story has only three werewolves >and only three vampires >and only three frankensteins >and only three phylacteries >and only three doomsday devices >and only three nukes >launched by only three space orbital stations >orbiting aroung only three moons >one of the moons has only three gods >another one has only three suns >another one has only three black holes >it's all rare, on my book! It's only three!
I don't think you have the intellect to decipher why having so many "only this one" rare things makes them not rare
if Aragorn had launched an immediate counter-attack on Mordor, would the ghost army still consider it the same battle or would it notch as an entirely new battle and their oath fulfilled?
It doesn't make much sense why they cared. They've been dead for thousands of years. This singular event is to restore their honor and reputation from being cowardly, betraying, scum to honorable men of Gondor that were there in time of need. They're invincible and don't get tired. They could wipe out evil in a couple hundred mile radius in an afternoon. They'd be forever after remembered fondly and placed on Gondor's highest pedastal. But nah, they'll instead quibble on how much stuff they have to do and how many minutes they have to be in service because they want to go back to sleep.
>Why didn't they XXXXXXXXXX
any stupid scenario you can conceive of which didn't result in the rings destruction would have equaled a victory for Sauron, and the eventual destruction and extermination of all men, hobbits, dwarves, and elves in middle earth. Sauron was fighting and winning a war of attrition, destroying the ring was their only option.
Why didn't they just have the dwarfs tunnel in the general vicinity of mt doom down to the lava. It's the same lava after all its not like it's any different because it's in a volcano
it's not the lava, it's the place. It had to be destroyed in the same place where it was forged and magically enchanted. If it was just about melting point temperature they could have used any number of dwarven or elvish forges.
There's two languages mainly used elves, the door was in the high elvish for classy sophisticated types.
Legolas was the prince of bumfrick nowhere, and spoke the elvish equivalent of ebonics. The party should count themselves lucky if he could read anything at all. but wasn't about to read those moonrunes.
They would just force the orcs to dig dumbass. Didn’t you see how quickly they dug holes in Isengard?
No I didn't, I had my eyes closed
>frogposting
>ostrich vision
ngmi
Fair enough, it was pretty scary
I put earplugs in when Tom Bombadil was onscreen
what?! his songs were the best part of the movie! HEY DOL! MERRY DOL!
You missed him and his wife's sex scene, it was absolutely gratuitous, really added nothing to the plot imho.
>Its not like the ringwraiths know the concept of digging
source?
Why would a king know how to dig
He's got servants and shit for that
Water comes from the ground and they dont like it
>why didnt they
>why didnt they
>why didnt they
because that wasnt the story you stupid fricking nerd. go try writing a story and then solve the problem in 2 paragraphs with some dumbass "trick" and see if anyone ends up paying attention.
I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
However, even without the Ring, Sauron could have taken over Middle-Earth and likely would have eventually. It needed to be destroyed for that reason too, not only to keep it out if his hands.
>I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
Great, now some horrible cthulhu monster is possessed by the ring.
>I’d say a better idea would have been to sail out into the middle of the sea and drop it.
This exact idea is discussed in the Council of Elrond in the book. It's dismissed because of what you said, the Ring needed to be destroyed because Sauron would have won through war otherwise, and eventually would have recovered the Ring anyway.
Couldn't they just take it into the West and gotten Aule or someone to melt it down?
no, they refused to allow the ring into valinor.
>"it's middle earth's problem"
Valar are buttholes
Sure, they can ride horses and sword fight but can't operate a shovel? LOL. Lay off the pipe weed, OP.
Because if they didn't destroy the ring sauron would have won.
The story showed that even with the ring Sauron could be defeated, and at the end of the 3rd age the races of Middle Earth were weak enough that Sauron didn't even need the ring to conquer them. Bravo Tolkien, your MacGuffin had no impact on the story.
>he didn't read the book
ngmi
Why didn't Aragorn get the ghost army to kill all the orcs in mordor?
>It wasn't their oath
Yeah I know, But he could of at least asked and didn't seem that hard for them to do it? It would of taken like 2 hours and they'd been undead for 1000 years at that point, Why would they even care?
It's a glaring plothole, but the best I can figure is that they were oathbound to help in a single battle, as when they were alive they were called to fight in a battle, not a war. Still a weak excuse though.
The ghost army is far and away the corniest shit in all of LotR. The way they zerg rush Sauron's army in the movie looks like it came straight out of a cartoon.
It's even dumber in the books.
>Gollum literally says "gollum, gollum!" Every other sentence.
Bravo Token, clearly ripped off that idea from Pokemon
>he didnt read the books
the orcs had metal dectors
sauron didn't need the ring to win. the ring needed to be destroyed for anyone else to survive
Sauron was more scared of the ring being used against him than him not having it for battle, the thought of it ever being destroyed never crossed his mind. This was why he was okay with challenging Aragorn with his army as a human would not be able to master the ring in such a short amount of time. Since all the intel he had pointed to Aragorn as the current ring bearer.
Why didn't they just drop the ring into a huge bucket of egg whites so nobody would be able to pick it out? Like when you can't get pieces of egg shell out.
They’d just make egg white omelettes and find the ring that way. That’s what I’d do anyway
LOTR is very weird when yiu think about it, i dont know about the books but the movies are almost a deconstruction if famous fantasy, except this is the series thatvmade fantasy famous. I was expecting knights fighting dragons, like real classic fantasy stuff but the movies are not that at all.
It kind of was a reaction, in its time. Most fantasy hearkens back to 1000-1400s Europe with aspects of Arthurian legend. Tolkien wanted to capture the spirit of Anglo-Saxon culture from 600-1000 AD. So LotR feels a world apart from traditional fantasy, while still feeling familiar because it draws from a part of English history that predates French influence.
I'd classify LoTR as mid-fantasy.
High-fantasy is where magic and mythical creatures are widespread like D&D, it's pretty rare in Hollywood since it's expensive to make.
Low-fantasy is something more like Game of Thrones where all that exists but it's so rare in the world.
You are messing up "fantasy" with "magic"
D&D is "high magic" fantasy
Game of thrones has nothing "rare", you are just being bamboozled by the lore actually telling you it's rare when in reality nothing is rare
>Here's a dragon but it's rare, well here two or three more
>Here's a giant but it's rare, well here's two or three more
>Here's a guy that comes back from the dead but it's rare, well here's him coming again and again and again
>Here's blood magic but it's rare, well, here's again and again
and the list goes on and on
Basically you are a sheep and believe everything you read without critically analyzing that it's not true.
Only three of something is incredibly rare especially since they used to have a city full of thousands of them. Most living people had never seen real physical evidence of them so they were taken as exaggerated myth. One of the big plot points you seem to have missed is that the dragon eggs hatching is what brought real magic back into the world. It did not work at all and hadn't worked worked for many decades or more since all the dragons died off. Small sects of people still practiced them just as tradition but didn't get much of a result besides the most mild effects. Giants were also rare and only in the far North where people rarely went.
>my story has only three werewolves
>and only three vampires
>and only three frankensteins
>and only three phylacteries
>and only three doomsday devices
>and only three nukes
>launched by only three space orbital stations
>orbiting aroung only three moons
>one of the moons has only three gods
>another one has only three suns
>another one has only three black holes
>it's all rare, on my book! It's only three!
I don't think you have the intellect to decipher why having so many "only this one" rare things makes them not rare
Why was Sauron so scared of a ring that does nothing but make you invisible?
if Aragorn had launched an immediate counter-attack on Mordor, would the ghost army still consider it the same battle or would it notch as an entirely new battle and their oath fulfilled?
Why didnt Aragorn just give the ring to one of the ghosts and have them float to Mordor?
It doesn't make much sense why they cared. They've been dead for thousands of years. This singular event is to restore their honor and reputation from being cowardly, betraying, scum to honorable men of Gondor that were there in time of need. They're invincible and don't get tired. They could wipe out evil in a couple hundred mile radius in an afternoon. They'd be forever after remembered fondly and placed on Gondor's highest pedastal. But nah, they'll instead quibble on how much stuff they have to do and how many minutes they have to be in service because they want to go back to sleep.
Why couldn't they have just picked up a sample of lava and brought it back to melt the ring in safety?
>Why didn't they XXXXXXXXXX
any stupid scenario you can conceive of which didn't result in the rings destruction would have equaled a victory for Sauron, and the eventual destruction and extermination of all men, hobbits, dwarves, and elves in middle earth. Sauron was fighting and winning a war of attrition, destroying the ring was their only option.
Why didn't they just have the dwarfs tunnel in the general vicinity of mt doom down to the lava. It's the same lava after all its not like it's any different because it's in a volcano
it's not the lava, it's the place. It had to be destroyed in the same place where it was forged and magically enchanted. If it was just about melting point temperature they could have used any number of dwarven or elvish forges.
>going on a dangerous mission to hell
>better bring along the two most moronic hobbits in the shire
Why didn't Legolas just read this and speak the Elvish word for friend?
illiterate himbo
There's two languages mainly used elves, the door was in the high elvish for classy sophisticated types.
Legolas was the prince of bumfrick nowhere, and spoke the elvish equivalent of ebonics. The party should count themselves lucky if he could read anything at all. but wasn't about to read those moonrunes.
what happens if you put it in your butt?
Some magical homosexual singing about his hat being purple would find it and use it as a wienerring.