>I got a daughter, 8 year old girl. Her name is Cassidy. What do you say I bring her down here, let you stick your dick in her? You know, suck her breasts a little bit maybe.
How the frick did they get away with this in 2002? That's when I realized I was watching some ballsy kino.
>I got a daughter, 8 year old girl. Her name is Cassidy. What do you say I bring her down here, let you stick your dick in her? You know, suck her breasts a little bit maybe.
How the frick did they get away with this in 2002? That's when I realized I was watching some ballsy kino.
Plus the strike team was only together for like two weeks. Vic had no problem dancing around Aceveda and the other cops to appear clean later on but he couldn’t do it for a guy he knew was looking to burn him? ok then
If episode 1 didn't exist Vic losing everything would have been actually sad to watch. Instead you just feel like the fricking prick is getting what he deserves. They clearly didn't plan to turn him into an anti-hero, was probably supposed to be David "La Vacuuma" Aceveda vs Vic and Strike Team.
The Shield was loosely based on a series of events regarding the real LA police Strike team actually robbing a train, which is a major event later in the series; they were also killing rivals and gang dudes and assigning poker cards to them. Needless to say, real life strike team was Black folk and hispanics mostly, not all white like The Shield, but thank god for that because casting was just right.
not quite. CRASH (of the rampart scandal) was a much larger organization, ~100 were found in misconduct. Basically the nogs were tasked with anti gang intelligence & operations and essentially formed their own gang started dealing drugs assassinating the now rival (to CRASH) gang members complete with kill lists etc.
Not true. Vic is the same guy throughout the series, the only difference is the image he's trying to project to the guys, to Shane, and to himself. When push came to shove, he was ready to shoot Shane and his wife in front of their son because they were going to end up hurting Vic. When he had to make a choice between his family and his team, he gave up Ronnie to a sentence that is just like if he did kill him.
Shane was always right, "I was just following your gameplan coach", if he had been there that night with Lem and heard how he wasn't going to run and he was going to turn himself in and all that and how unrealistic it was, the wheels would have started turning and he would have killed him too.
Sutter has a hundred ideas, fifty are genius, fifty are trash, and he can't tell the difference. Look at the huge quality drop off between The Shield where Sutter had a filter and Sons of Anarchy where he never did. He needs a wrangler to sift out the good stuff and to keep his wife from singing.
It really was more a perfect balance of Shawn Ryan and Kurt Sutter I think. Cause Terriers from Shawn Ryan was good but didn't have the gritty edgy stuff the Shield did and Sons of Anarchy from Sutter had way too much filler and bad ideas
If episode 1 didn't exist Vic losing everything would have been actually sad to watch. Instead you just feel like the fricking prick is getting what he deserves. They clearly didn't plan to turn him into an anti-hero, was probably supposed to be David "La Vacuuma" Aceveda vs Vic and Strike Team.
The show is criminally underrated i just don't get why there's no more hype. Dialogues are mostly great its funny its badass its everything you need if you have balls on you.
#1 TV for men. Non pretentious straightforward fun ride all the way.
It portrays the real world reasons for most police brutality, and asks an uncomfortable question. It's not something you could really make today, and if you did it would be unwatchable.
>No they didn't moron, it was a very successful show and everyone knew what it was about.
not at first no, it was a hard sell, you have to remember there was nothing like it at the time
when you heard "it's a new cop show", most assumed it was another NYPD blue or law and order because that's all the cop shows that were on tv at the time
I was very reluctant to try it at the time because of this assumption, but then of course the pilot ending is what sold the show as something else, but you still had to give the pilot a chance
that pilot ending 100% made FX what it became, they just kept betting on edgy shit afterwards to follow on HBO's popularity, nip tuck, etc
for similar reasons, the wire was also extremely underseen, it only took until season 4 for hype to start spreading and critics to start talking about it, it was insane, people forget it barely even got emmy recognition (lost in s3 against fricking House), was always on the brink of being canceled despite hbo never canceling anything at the time, and execs never wanted to greenlight a cop show in the first place. the shield survived with the edgy pilot ending, the wire didn't even have the edgy appeal despite violence being hbo's brand at the time, its saving grace was the "one case per season" thing instead "one case per episode" which was still novel and how with each season it became more this "dickensian tale of a city institutions blahblah" instead of just a cop show
I started watching this show at one of the lowest points in my life and let me tell you, I recovered like a champ while watching the show. It is just so much fun and energizing. Every subplot was satisfying (besides that gay ni$$a)
He set up several murders, killed someone again in season 3 (Margos), nearly killed Shane, and almost certainly would have killed Kavanaugh if the chance presented itself. Vic didn't kill a member of his team again because the situation didn't present itself until Lem, and Shane beat him to it. It's not like cops were wearing wires on him every other day.
Yes he was. If Vic had heard Lem's wieneramamie idea that he was going to just turn himself in and do even more time, he would have killed him, because he would have testified. Lem wasn't strong enough to just run to Mexico and live on a free income getting funneled to him, but he's strong enough to survive fifteen years of getting beat and raped without ever once thinking "why am I here? Why don't I get myself out?"
No, of course Vic would have killed him. Again, all you need to do is look at Ronnie to see that. The second it was Vic and family or the guys, Vic screwed the guys over. Lem was the same deal. Everyone misinterprets that Vic/Shane scene, Shane was always right about it.
One of these days we need to put our heads together and make a certified Cinemaphilecore list
The Shield
Rome
The Terror
Lost
all these shows I wouldn't have watched without Cinemaphile going on and on about them and all of them I very much enjoyed
One of these days we need to put our heads together and make a certified Cinemaphilecore list
The Shield
Rome
The Terror
Lost
all these shows I wouldn't have watched without Cinemaphile going on and on about them and all of them I very much enjoyed
homie please, one of the best moments in the whole show is Ronnie not being at all surprised when Vic tells him he killed Terry and being completely okay with it
it was like every episode for at least a full season, that Aceveda arc lasted a long ass time with him starting to get hookers he could dominate as a coping mechanism and then the guy trying to blackmail him from prison and all that
I watched the Shield without much Cinemaphile stuff in my head and it still stood out, its probably one of the most re-used scenes for the recap segments.
probably because it isnt, its a good cop show where the spin is "but what if they were corrupt" but its not kino
but congrats on finding a new show you like with multiple seasons to watch for the first time, i dont think i can ever find that again
season 1 is good but the characters aren't developed yet. Ronnie is basically an extra with very little screen time despite being part of the strike team. Seasons 2 and 3 is when they start to figure things out. Be aware that season 4 is kind of a slog, though. 5 through 7 are grade A kino.
anyone who thinks this is projecting their own stupidity onto others
The two are only superficially comparable
The Shield is not as literary as The Wire, but The Shield plays its characters off of each other much more expertly, and more often, as a result of its differing scope
The Vic+Shane, Claudette+Dutch, and their interaction-with-Aceveda dynamics never disappoint
The Shield also dealt with certain themes and issues much more frankly and forthrightly than did The Wire; the optics and low-level politics, and its much more unapologetic view towards heinous gang activity
Vic was caught several times but because of his rivals being so obsessed with getting him they made mistakes that would let him walk on technicalities. That's basically what happened with Kavanaugh.
>but because of his rivals being so obsessed with getting him they made mistakes that would let him walk on technicalities
I would say instead that it was mostly because Vic was a master at identifying what others wanted, and using that as a wedge to get out of trouble, make himself indispensable to whoever had leverage over him, and/or trade his way into an advantageous position
Vic and Aceveda were very similar people at the end of the day, and because they were so observant and so well-matched in the uses of power and leverage, it made their long-term conflict very compelling
I only liked the parts with Dutch. The stories were interesting, and unlike the strike team there was room for him to fail. If Vic ever got caught even a little bit the show would have been instantly over, so there was no real tension as a result.
I viewed Vic as an agent of destruction. Everyone who gets involved with him is slowly, but inexorably dragged down into the churning shit pit of his chaotic world as their lives crumble around them. Like Midas with his touch of gold, Vic is cursed with insanely good luck, at the expense of everyone around him.
Vic was caught several times but because of his rivals being so obsessed with getting him they made mistakes that would let him walk on technicalities. That's basically what happened with Kavanaugh.
I swore that Dutch interrogating Vic was ALWAYS gonna be the end game. The series is pretty much perfect but I needed that. And bare breasts. Need that too.
I liked how at that point, Shane and Vic weren't on speaking terms (vice was just there on business). But due the timing, he sat down with his old buds and watched their latest prank on Dutch. Everybody laughing their ass off like nothing ever changed.
You could see it in his eyes, Shane missed being on the team.
He didn't want to take the polygraph, and opted out at the last minute, which drummed him out of the squad. His union rep basically told him he could refuse the test, he did (despite having a high chance of beating it) and in turn really fricked up the deal with Monica.
Funny, they took this promotional photo with Terry in it. Also for all the marketing and trailers for the show, they built up Terry as some kind of antagonist who will be a main character throughout the series just so that when they kill him off in pilot it'll hit so much harder and get audiences hooked. Why don't television series do more bold and experimental stuff like this while at the same time not being overly up their own ass and pretentious?
The shield was a show that got better as it went on. The first 3 seasons were fine, but for the most part it was just a villain of the week sort of thing. It picked up massively in season 4
>for the most part it was just a villain of the week sort of thing
nah, it pretty much always had a throughline going. you'd be hard-pressed to point to more than one episode in the first 4 seasons that didn't advance either the main plot or a major sub-plot that would get picked up again later (like Kern Little).
Honestly, I'd say season 5 is the weakest season overall, because the first half of it is a bit too much of a rehash of the Terry thing and doesn't move the ball forward fast enough. The sub-elements are stuff like the Salvadorian guy Doomsday and Danny being pregnant, and a rare throwaway Dutch and Claudette case
season 4 was basically the Antwon Mitchell feud and Glenn Close being a dumb b***h. Barely anything in the main plot advanced. Season 5 was great with Kavanaugh bringing back everything the strike team did to the forefront and putting the pressure on them.
>the Antwon Mitchell feud
which is itself a main plot >Glenn Close being a dumb b***h
filtered. That season allowed the show to display the systemic problems that then-new asset forfeiture programs were introducing, was a natural way to move Vic back into power, and gave us a lot of iconic Vic and Shane moments. Plus, Anthony Anderson's performance was fricking fantastic: he was a much more entertaining major villain than Armadillo, Margos, etc.
>Deputy District Attorney Tannaz Mokayef said the couple's 10-year-old son heard his father tell Mrs Jace, who was a keen jogger, "if you like running , then run to heaven".
>He's a Mary Sue
this is a maximum brainlet take
Vic couldn't wrangle Shane's moronation and Lem's willfulness, and thereby couldn't keep his team together. Vic ends up directly betraying everyone except Lem. Vic is a grandmaster at seeing the way the pieces of a puzzle fit and using them to his advantage, but he's always and ultimately subject to powers with more juice than him, because Vic is just the king of the street; he never would or could rise higher 'legitimately', in contrast to Aceveda. His monomania for retaining his authority on the street while doing it under cover of cop authority and avoiding criminal responsibility ends up losing him all of his relationships and his ability to manipulate and subjugate the gangs and their drug trade; it sticks him in a soulless cubicle away from anything he loves
Vic wins every battle but loses the war
Aceveda loses (almost) every battle but wins the war
That's one of the many brilliant aspects of the show, you diseased penis
Let me guess, you're one of those brainlets who think Vic's about to go vigilante on the street at the end. Vicgays and Tonygays are laughably pathetic
This
Vic's greatest weakness is that he can find a way to victory huehue but is terrible at predicting what happens after the win - the finale is the emphasis of this
>two of my kids have functioning autism, this is literally the worst thing to happen and creates a huge issue within our family
back when autism was actually taken seriously
calling Vic a Mary Sue is fricking hilarious. Nobody in the precinct outside of the strike team likes him, his wife hates him, his only non-autist child thinks he's a scumbag, he can't ever relax because all the shit he's done has made him enemies around every corner, he wins major confrontations but loses more credibility each time. He's a deeply flawed anti-hero.
How did left guy become the defacto Black person guy of hollywood? any time a script calls for racism, they call this man and he gets paid to call people Black folk.
because he said Black person a bunch of times on The Shield and looks like the kind of guy who says it in real life as well. I wish Hollywood would pay me to be the resident Black person dropper.
Off the top of my head I can only recall two times where he actually said Black person in The Shield. When Tayvon was trying to make peace with him and of course with Antwon in the interrogation room but there's just something memorable about the way he says it.
i dont remember him saying it but he was likely thinking it when this was playing out
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>Jenya Lano >Russian-Italian heritage
Why do Slav women love to get blacked so much? I swear the whole Ukraine war is just an excuse to get us to airdrop crates full of Viagra'd up giga nigs on Moscow to take the locals.
Here I am to complain again about DUTCH the fricking MORON you had that pussy in your hand and you let it slip thorough your moronic fingers because you could load the gun but you couldn't pull the trigger you little fricking b***h
I love how by the end of the show the pressure is boiling over and it proves that Vic is the only maniac able to handle it. He never gave up. He's an incredible character. A total sociopath maniac but with laser sharp intelligence pointed toward survival above all else. AND he never fricking brags about it, not a single time.
>AND he never fricking brags about it, not a single time.
I don't mean for this to be a derisive nitpick, but his confession is a massive brag—it's just a brag that comes with a necessary purpose, not one made for simple pride or self-aggrandizement
>the Antwon Mitchell feud
which is itself a main plot >Glenn Close being a dumb b***h
filtered. That season allowed the show to display the systemic problems that then-new asset forfeiture programs were introducing, was a natural way to move Vic back into power, and gave us a lot of iconic Vic and Shane moments. Plus, Anthony Anderson's performance was fricking fantastic: he was a much more entertaining major villain than Armadillo, Margos, etc.
I would add to this that s4 gave us some needed illustrative depth to Shane. Shane always had a chip on his shoulder about being the 'little brother,' second among 'equals'—the events of s4 showed him that he couldn't be Vic (regardless of the fact that the lesson didn't stick). Shane couldn't develop and command the loyalty of Army, couldn't outwit Antwon, couldn't out-think or outmaneuver Vic. This is one of the big factors that starts to bring the team back together.
>that feel when FX ultimately never went through with the movie sequel they were discussing doing.
All I remember being discussed was Ronnie either escaping prison or being freed on the issue of no one wanted to deal with the fallout of using Mackeys testimony and an unhinged tortured by Antwon Ronnie gunning for Vic and his family.
He handled suddenly being given dialogue perfectly well and actually brought layers to Ronnie by the final season or two with what little writing he did get.
Cant remember if it was one of the writers or Chiklis himself that said it but Vic is like a shark, as long as he can keep moving and has his freedom he'll always have a plan or plot to move on to next.
The ending pretty much sums him up perfectly, 1 quite moment for his humanity before he buries it again and goes back into shark mode.
He'll plan and plot his best way to secure his position being stuck as a desk jockey while securing a route of escape and regrouping in shit goes sideways.
>BUT YOU KNOW WHAT MAN? WITH ALL THAT LACK OF MONEY, ALL THAT POWER, AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU’RE STILL JUST A JANNY! WITH ZERO COMPENSATION! AND WHERE’S THE RESPECT IN THAT HUH?!
I like that Dutch is essentially Vic's antithesis. He's a complete loser socially and a stickler for rules, but he still manages to get major police work done, arguably even better than Vic because his solutions don't cause an endless cycle of fires that he needs to constantly put out in the future.
Reminder that Acevada is more dirty than Vic by the end of the series and he orchestrated Andre 3000's death because he was actually gaining traction in his campaign for mayor.
the shield finale left so many plot points unresolved. i get some of them were unresolved on purpose, but what the frick was up with the kid serial killer arc?
>What remains unresolved about it?
how many times dutch creampied the kid's mom before he cut her up in his basement because he was the alpha serial killer who wanted to mog the amateur kid
shane's murder suicide was one of the most brutal and shocking things i've seen on tv. no tv show would have the balls to pull something like that today.
Black person. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE SAID THAT WORD SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD Black person WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE NUMBER OF TIMES I SAID Black person IN THE SPAN OF THIS MICRO-INSTANT. Black person. Black person.
>"Vic lead. I followed. One wasn't worse than the other. But together, we became a monster. Oh crap, I hear Vic kicking the bathroom door, better make this....ACK!"
I can't believe Shane accidentally shot himself.
One of the most kino pilot episode ending
BAWITDABAW WADANG LADANG DIGGY DIGGY WABOOGIE
Ju-Ju-JU-JUST ANOTHER DAYYYYYYYY
DAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
True
we did but thats okay you're here now
Best TV show of all time for me. No contest. The fact it's so underappreciated is a blessing. Hopefully the tiktok masses don't learn about it.
Same for me, it's just too good, knocks lel wire out of the park
Same for me and even though it's got a lot of episodes and seasons it's incredibly easy to rewatch
You didn't ask
>you want to keep all the new traffic on this board janny? then you better get used to my shitposts real quick
The pilot is amazing. Season 1 is alright….then it just becomes stale with subplots
kek this post is the definition of a midwit being filtered
>so what if i do it for free? someone still has to do it
If The Shield is "high grade kino", how come a goyslop consoomer like me just binged it?
It straddles the line, like Breaking Bad
I think its more masculine to rock the high hairline like Moggins than to shave it like Chickless.
he killed his hair follicles with greasepaint apparently
OH N-
OH N-GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
completely unnecessary, we watched this in Afghanistan and this scene completely killed the vibe
>we watched this in Afghanistan and this scene completely killed the vibe
Too much sexual tension I assume
>I got a daughter, 8 year old girl. Her name is Cassidy. What do you say I bring her down here, let you stick your dick in her? You know, suck her breasts a little bit maybe.
How the frick did they get away with this in 2002? That's when I realized I was watching some ballsy kino.
No way that's actual dialogue
That's just how bold The Shield was at the time. Only HBO would be that ballsy prior.
8 year olds don't have breasts
Fricking Kino
Edgy
So it really is just The Wire for dummies. Le epic torture! So edge!
It's not Wire. It's more like GTA.
It's pleb shit, and if you honestly think this is good then you have terrible taste, like dish washing while you watch tv taste.
Not my problem.
>pleb shit
no plebs can't handle the level of based that is the shield case in point
The Wire is The Wire for dummies.
go back to your discord, troony
I know someone made fun of you earlier in this thread but you have to learn to stop taking things so personally
god i love Vic
not back then but they do now
meant for this
Dirty Dick Vic. Created 2 different kids with autism.
>suck her breasts a little bit maybe
this line was a Cinemaphile meme back in 2008 but i'm the only one still here that remembers it
Previously on The Shield...
>Who took my Ding Dongs?
>They made you... suck?
>I'm not gay!
rest of the show vic wouldnt have killed and undercover cop, his pilot character is completely different.
Plus the strike team was only together for like two weeks. Vic had no problem dancing around Aceveda and the other cops to appear clean later on but he couldn’t do it for a guy he knew was looking to burn him? ok then
The Shield was loosely based on a series of events regarding the real LA police Strike team actually robbing a train, which is a major event later in the series; they were also killing rivals and gang dudes and assigning poker cards to them. Needless to say, real life strike team was Black folk and hispanics mostly, not all white like The Shield, but thank god for that because casting was just right.
Which I feel reinforces my point. They were clearly supposed to be bad guys and the pilot sets the tone for that.
Nobody has ever thought otherwise ever unless their brain is smooth.
so irl strike were much cooler?
They didn't rob a train. David Mack (Vic Mackey) robbed a bank that was laundering money.
>poker cards
not quite. CRASH (of the rampart scandal) was a much larger organization, ~100 were found in misconduct. Basically the nogs were tasked with anti gang intelligence & operations and essentially formed their own gang started dealing drugs assassinating the now rival (to CRASH) gang members complete with kill lists etc.
Not true. Vic is the same guy throughout the series, the only difference is the image he's trying to project to the guys, to Shane, and to himself. When push came to shove, he was ready to shoot Shane and his wife in front of their son because they were going to end up hurting Vic. When he had to make a choice between his family and his team, he gave up Ronnie to a sentence that is just like if he did kill him.
Shane was always right, "I was just following your gameplan coach", if he had been there that night with Lem and heard how he wasn't going to run and he was going to turn himself in and all that and how unrealistic it was, the wheels would have started turning and he would have killed him too.
for years I thought this show was the capeshit slop but that's agents of shield lmao
Only Sutter can create this. Only Sutter knows how to balance metacommentary in the long from serial television medium.
Sutter has a hundred ideas, fifty are genius, fifty are trash, and he can't tell the difference. Look at the huge quality drop off between The Shield where Sutter had a filter and Sons of Anarchy where he never did. He needs a wrangler to sift out the good stuff and to keep his wife from singing.
I started reading your post and the last part is exactly what popped into my head when I read fifty are trash kek
It really was more a perfect balance of Shawn Ryan and Kurt Sutter I think. Cause Terriers from Shawn Ryan was good but didn't have the gritty edgy stuff the Shield did and Sons of Anarchy from Sutter had way too much filler and bad ideas
If episode 1 didn't exist Vic losing everything would have been actually sad to watch. Instead you just feel like the fricking prick is getting what he deserves. They clearly didn't plan to turn him into an anti-hero, was probably supposed to be David "La Vacuuma" Aceveda vs Vic and Strike Team.
For me it's
Spoilers for S02 I guess
gave him the old spicy spic
Holy kino
This scene is so amazing built off the rising tension in Vic’s life that’s piling throughout the episode.
One of my favourite scenes. Great music too
The show is criminally underrated i just don't get why there's no more hype. Dialogues are mostly great its funny its badass its everything you need if you have balls on you.
#1 TV for men. Non pretentious straightforward fun ride all the way.
P.S arguably THE BEST ending of any TV
It portrays the real world reasons for most police brutality, and asks an uncomfortable question. It's not something you could really make today, and if you did it would be unwatchable.
When it ran originally people thought it was another CSI slop. Also Sopranos was airing at that time.
they snatched an emmy from Sopranos, that must felt really good
>When it ran originally people thought it was another CSI slop.
No they didn't moron, it was a very successful show and everyone knew what it was about.
>No they didn't moron, it was a very successful show and everyone knew what it was about.
not at first no, it was a hard sell, you have to remember there was nothing like it at the time
when you heard "it's a new cop show", most assumed it was another NYPD blue or law and order because that's all the cop shows that were on tv at the time
I was very reluctant to try it at the time because of this assumption, but then of course the pilot ending is what sold the show as something else, but you still had to give the pilot a chance
that pilot ending 100% made FX what it became, they just kept betting on edgy shit afterwards to follow on HBO's popularity, nip tuck, etc
for similar reasons, the wire was also extremely underseen, it only took until season 4 for hype to start spreading and critics to start talking about it, it was insane, people forget it barely even got emmy recognition (lost in s3 against fricking House), was always on the brink of being canceled despite hbo never canceling anything at the time, and execs never wanted to greenlight a cop show in the first place. the shield survived with the edgy pilot ending, the wire didn't even have the edgy appeal despite violence being hbo's brand at the time, its saving grace was the "one case per season" thing instead "one case per episode" which was still novel and how with each season it became more this "dickensian tale of a city institutions blahblah" instead of just a cop show
>lost in s3 against fricking House
House is a great show.
At least the first seasons are until they break up the team
Above average for network slop but nowhere near comparable to prime HBO kino
>HBO
>HBO
>HBO
it didn't air on HBO
It's a fine point, but I prefer MC content. At the very least there can be a compromise in the hopes that we can #RestoreTheSutterverse.
I started watching this show at one of the lowest points in my life and let me tell you, I recovered like a champ while watching the show. It is just so much fun and energizing. Every subplot was satisfying (besides that gay ni$$a)
>Every subplot was satisfying
After the cat subplot I expected Dutch to become Dexter lol. Would be fun to watch but I get why they didn't.
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Dutch could never.
although the cat stuff was pretty intriguing
One of the writers planned for Dutch to become serial killer, but luckily the show creator stopped it.
Show is very good as it is.
Sutter needs Shawn Ryan to be great
They were a good combo indeed.
Vic is a fricking nerd?!
>previously on Seinfeld
>what's the deal with oral rape
lel
>kills a clean cop in episode 1
>never again in 7 season does something even close to that bad
that's kind of the point
He set up several murders, killed someone again in season 3 (Margos), nearly killed Shane, and almost certainly would have killed Kavanaugh if the chance presented itself. Vic didn't kill a member of his team again because the situation didn't present itself until Lem, and Shane beat him to it. It's not like cops were wearing wires on him every other day.
>and Shane beat him to it
Vic wasn't going to kill Lem
Yes he was. If Vic had heard Lem's wieneramamie idea that he was going to just turn himself in and do even more time, he would have killed him, because he would have testified. Lem wasn't strong enough to just run to Mexico and live on a free income getting funneled to him, but he's strong enough to survive fifteen years of getting beat and raped without ever once thinking "why am I here? Why don't I get myself out?"
No, of course Vic would have killed him. Again, all you need to do is look at Ronnie to see that. The second it was Vic and family or the guys, Vic screwed the guys over. Lem was the same deal. Everyone misinterprets that Vic/Shane scene, Shane was always right about it.
Shane did nothing wrong.
because YOU ARE A Black person WITH A homosexual Black person SON
>DAMNIT GAMBY
>we cant let a Black person saunter in here and take whats ours!
kek right when I finished the last episode of The Shield I booted up VP after
Well, time for a rewatch.
It's a great rewatch i did it recently
REPPIN THAT SPOOKY STREET MUH NIG! SPOOK STREET! SPOOK STREET!
The fact that there are daily threads for a 20 year old FX drama says a lot.
Sutter is like Vince Russo. Infinite ideas of varying quality that need intense filtering by someone else with veto power over him.
Kino
PREVIOUSLY ON THE SHIELD
One of these days we need to put our heads together and make a certified Cinemaphilecore list
The Shield
Rome
The Terror
Lost
all these shows I wouldn't have watched without Cinemaphile going on and on about them and all of them I very much enjoyed
only two of those belong and that list
praise for the shield only started here once shitskins and morons started flooding into the board.
holy newbie
Wouldn't work because so many people here have a personality that starts and stops at contrarianism
Justified
Vice Principals
Patriot
Deadwood
Burn Notice
based
Reno911
I usually don’t like Forrest Whittaker’s acting but he was great on this show
PISS
>lem, in your dream, did lem, your dream was! in your dream did lem!
Cinematic Nova.
We tell it constantly
Don't get me wrong I liked the show.
I just couldn't make myself to like Vic and the crew ather they killed the snitch in cold blood.
Tavon was based they should've wrote out Ronnie and had him stay
The only change would be Tavon being Buck Broken at the end yelling about how they were going to run instead of Ronnie
homie please, one of the best moments in the whole show is Ronnie not being at all surprised when Vic tells him he killed Terry and being completely okay with it
Ronnie was a fricking psycho from the beginning
>Whatever, Vic, I know, I just wish you would've told me sooner so I could cover Shane's moronic ass better
Ronnie being ecstatic after killing the Russian dude in the apartment was also a fricking kino scene.
I love the scene with the fake Russian roulette interrogation where he hides the bullet with his thumb
speaking of good russian roulette scenes, I just watched that justified episode where Raylon plays with Wynne Duffy. High grade kino that scene.
>Raylan vs the entire strike team
we deserve a full season of this
Anytime Raylon & Duffy were on screen together you knew it was kino
when Raylan throws the bullets at Duffy and Duffy's like what was that?
>next time they'll be faster
He made OP ... suck?
I laughed at how many times the recaps showed aceveda sucking dick my god
If they hired me to make a sequel I'd open the pilot with that.
It didn't happen as much as Cinemaphile would like you to believe
it was like every episode for at least a full season, that Aceveda arc lasted a long ass time with him starting to get hookers he could dominate as a coping mechanism and then the guy trying to blackmail him from prison and all that
I watched the Shield without much Cinemaphile stuff in my head and it still stood out, its probably one of the most re-used scenes for the recap segments.
They were still recapping it in seasons 6 and 7
It happened quite a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2aINQduzqM
>les see dat mouf
>SUCK IT
Nah, I rewatched with my wife a couple of years ago and it was constant.
probably because it isnt, its a good cop show where the spin is "but what if they were corrupt" but its not kino
but congrats on finding a new show you like with multiple seasons to watch for the first time, i dont think i can ever find that again
Cringe homosexual
not my job
>it's a Billings centered episode
K I N O
Anthony Anderson gave a phenomenal performance.
ONE TIME DOIN' TIME FOR A LONG LONG TIME!
How do you go from that to this?
>Your wife's pussy tasted like sweet, sweet butter
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Frame him for murder
>I framed a guilty man
K I N O
>Kek imagine being so buck broken that you attempt to frame a man just because he fricked your wife and then pussy out at the last second
Kavanaugh bros just can't stop losing
Better to go to jail than end up like Vic.
Become a Broken Buck and start yelling how he's pissing all over everyone!
>That episode where they have to catch an Armenian gang dude
>Keep calling him a midget
Dude was barely shorter than Vic lmao
Ask if he needed his highchair to reach it.
Kavanaugh bros... I don't feel so good
>over-acts in your path
>Why would you put your mouth where my dick and coom has been?
why do they always interview people without their lawyers or assistant DAs around
because most of these people are either too dumb or too arrogant to think they need one
There's the belief that asking for a lawyer/representation is an admittance of guilt.
Is that true? Will I look guilty for having my lawyer around when being interviewed?
You'd be moronic not to have a lawyer there guilty or innocent. They rarely did on this show for plot convenience.
because extras cost money and it clutters the scene
Didn't care about season 1, glad I kept going cause season 2 was very good
Tonally the show takes a while to find it's feet
season 1 is good but the characters aren't developed yet. Ronnie is basically an extra with very little screen time despite being part of the strike team. Seasons 2 and 3 is when they start to figure things out. Be aware that season 4 is kind of a slog, though. 5 through 7 are grade A kino.
>season 4 is kind of a slog
What a moronic thing to say
>shitty loud Mexican piano starts playing
the wire for dimwits
anyone who thinks this is projecting their own stupidity onto others
The two are only superficially comparable
The Shield is not as literary as The Wire, but The Shield plays its characters off of each other much more expertly, and more often, as a result of its differing scope
The Vic+Shane, Claudette+Dutch, and their interaction-with-Aceveda dynamics never disappoint
The Shield also dealt with certain themes and issues much more frankly and forthrightly than did The Wire; the optics and low-level politics, and its much more unapologetic view towards heinous gang activity
>but because of his rivals being so obsessed with getting him they made mistakes that would let him walk on technicalities
I would say instead that it was mostly because Vic was a master at identifying what others wanted, and using that as a wedge to get out of trouble, make himself indispensable to whoever had leverage over him, and/or trade his way into an advantageous position
Vic and Aceveda were very similar people at the end of the day, and because they were so observant and so well-matched in the uses of power and leverage, it made their long-term conflict very compelling
The Shield is way, way better than the Wire. Fricking overrated snooze fest.
Spook Streetbros... the Byz Lats are laughing at us again
I only liked the parts with Dutch. The stories were interesting, and unlike the strike team there was room for him to fail. If Vic ever got caught even a little bit the show would have been instantly over, so there was no real tension as a result.
I viewed Vic as an agent of destruction. Everyone who gets involved with him is slowly, but inexorably dragged down into the churning shit pit of his chaotic world as their lives crumble around them. Like Midas with his touch of gold, Vic is cursed with insanely good luck, at the expense of everyone around him.
Vic was caught several times but because of his rivals being so obsessed with getting him they made mistakes that would let him walk on technicalities. That's basically what happened with Kavanaugh.
Kavanaugh wasn't even close to catching him. He had nothing. He was a joke.
The shit with dutch was mostly filler. It holds this show back. There needed to be more kino moments
Every scene with Dutch is funny as frick and the investigations are interesting.
I don't like cliche cop procedurals but the way it worked with dutch and claudette was a lot better than any other cop show
I swore that Dutch interrogating Vic was ALWAYS gonna be the end game. The series is pretty much perfect but I needed that. And bare breasts. Need that too.
:'(
Why he sad?
The serial killer insulted him a little.
he witnessed a woman he liked getting fricked by a Chad
no he took that one pretty well all things considered
He wasn't hungry like the wolf.
That's Collateral you're talking about. Not The Shield
>he didn't see dutch's hidden camera interracial date night debacle
BURNING THE GROUND
Legit the funniest scene in television.
I liked how at that point, Shane and Vic weren't on speaking terms (vice was just there on business). But due the timing, he sat down with his old buds and watched their latest prank on Dutch. Everybody laughing their ass off like nothing ever changed.
You could see it in his eyes, Shane missed being on the team.
SPOOK STREET homie!
?t=81
Some jungle rhymer saying "let him go let him go" over the top too, just perfect
>they were planning to end the show by having Dutch walk into his personal murder basement
fricking kek
That sounds cringe as frick. Glad they decided to end it with him and Claudette being close and good cops.
Shaky cams and zooms the show
I'm sure it's good but I'll never never know for sure because of this awful style
The zoom in to his feet dancing always kills me
I found that one woman cop to be extremely annoying
where the frick can I pirate this?
>the killer in me is the killer in (You)
>walton goggins in tge credits
should've been all you needed
this was what made him walton goggins
yeah, but op is acting like walton goggins hasn't been walton goggins for 2 decades now
literally millions of threads have told you exactly this, moron or newhomosexual, take your pick.
>Amazon prime
>Google play
>Only available in SD.
What did they mean by this
>>Only available in SD.
Exactly as it should be.
This. I chose to buy the series on DVD over blu-ray
One of the great boxed sets, makes me sad they aren't a thing anymore
>Cause we're runnin' out of time
KINO
for me it's Smitty the Locksmith
He only had like one scene? When Vic didn't want anyone finding what was in the safe, right?
I think he's in a couple episodes, I can't remember. I really like that safe episode.
he also gave them tips on how to beat the polygraph that Shane and Army were supposed to take
What happened to Army? I think I missed big chunks of that episode.
He didn't want to take the polygraph, and opted out at the last minute, which drummed him out of the squad. His union rep basically told him he could refuse the test, he did (despite having a high chance of beating it) and in turn really fricked up the deal with Monica.
Thanks to The Shield, I still want a GTA about cops.
Funny, they took this promotional photo with Terry in it. Also for all the marketing and trailers for the show, they built up Terry as some kind of antagonist who will be a main character throughout the series just so that when they kill him off in pilot it'll hit so much harder and get audiences hooked. Why don't television series do more bold and experimental stuff like this while at the same time not being overly up their own ass and pretentious?
The literally just did with The Mayor of Kingstown
SPOOK STREET
The shield was a show that got better as it went on. The first 3 seasons were fine, but for the most part it was just a villain of the week sort of thing. It picked up massively in season 4
>for the most part it was just a villain of the week sort of thing
nah, it pretty much always had a throughline going. you'd be hard-pressed to point to more than one episode in the first 4 seasons that didn't advance either the main plot or a major sub-plot that would get picked up again later (like Kern Little).
Honestly, I'd say season 5 is the weakest season overall, because the first half of it is a bit too much of a rehash of the Terry thing and doesn't move the ball forward fast enough. The sub-elements are stuff like the Salvadorian guy Doomsday and Danny being pregnant, and a rare throwaway Dutch and Claudette case
season 4 was basically the Antwon Mitchell feud and Glenn Close being a dumb b***h. Barely anything in the main plot advanced. Season 5 was great with Kavanaugh bringing back everything the strike team did to the forefront and putting the pressure on them.
>the Antwon Mitchell feud
which is itself a main plot
>Glenn Close being a dumb b***h
filtered. That season allowed the show to display the systemic problems that then-new asset forfeiture programs were introducing, was a natural way to move Vic back into power, and gave us a lot of iconic Vic and Shane moments. Plus, Anthony Anderson's performance was fricking fantastic: he was a much more entertaining major villain than Armadillo, Margos, etc.
I'm responsible
>Deputy District Attorney Tannaz Mokayef said the couple's 10-year-old son heard his father tell Mrs Jace, who was a keen jogger, "if you like running , then run to heaven".
>"I was only trying to wound her"
10/10 defense strategy
i dont like vic
Same. He's a Mary Sue.
>He's a Mary Sue
this is a maximum brainlet take
Vic couldn't wrangle Shane's moronation and Lem's willfulness, and thereby couldn't keep his team together. Vic ends up directly betraying everyone except Lem. Vic is a grandmaster at seeing the way the pieces of a puzzle fit and using them to his advantage, but he's always and ultimately subject to powers with more juice than him, because Vic is just the king of the street; he never would or could rise higher 'legitimately', in contrast to Aceveda. His monomania for retaining his authority on the street while doing it under cover of cop authority and avoiding criminal responsibility ends up losing him all of his relationships and his ability to manipulate and subjugate the gangs and their drug trade; it sticks him in a soulless cubicle away from anything he loves
Vic wins every battle but loses the war
Aceveda loses (almost) every battle but wins the war
That's one of the many brilliant aspects of the show, you diseased penis
Vic didn't lose a single thing that mattered.
Let me guess, you're one of those brainlets who think Vic's about to go vigilante on the street at the end. Vicgays and Tonygays are laughably pathetic
This
Vic's greatest weakness is that he can find a way to victory huehue but is terrible at predicting what happens after the win - the finale is the emphasis of this
The finale where he got away with literally everything?
at the cost of everything he cared about. He clearly didn't think he won in the end.
You have a child's idea of getting away with it
You have a moron's idea of not getting away with it.
Then why watch the show?
ICKY VICKY
>two of my kids have functioning autism, this is literally the worst thing to happen and creates a huge issue within our family
back when autism was actually taken seriously
His kid didn't have high-functioning autism though.
you really feel the pain when you realize both kids have autism and the parents genes are essentially trash
>me, my wife, my daughter, my son, my wife's son, my cousins, and my mother have autism. I'm gonna need the cash from the money train.
kino
We did. Many times.
calling Vic a Mary Sue is fricking hilarious. Nobody in the precinct outside of the strike team likes him, his wife hates him, his only non-autist child thinks he's a scumbag, he can't ever relax because all the shit he's done has made him enemies around every corner, he wins major confrontations but loses more credibility each time. He's a deeply flawed anti-hero.
Those who don't like him are, without exception, comically incompetent buffoons.
Potente was also really good in this.
Until she just disappears and is never seen again.
How did left guy become the defacto Black person guy of hollywood? any time a script calls for racism, they call this man and he gets paid to call people Black folk.
because he said Black person a bunch of times on The Shield and looks like the kind of guy who says it in real life as well. I wish Hollywood would pay me to be the resident Black person dropper.
Off the top of my head I can only recall two times where he actually said Black person in The Shield. When Tayvon was trying to make peace with him and of course with Antwon in the interrogation room but there's just something memorable about the way he says it.
>with Antwon in the interrogation room but there's just something memorable about the way he says it.
Says what exactly? I could use a reminder.
Also in the first season with the Basketball player.
I don't remember him saying it, he was teasing it but never did.
i dont remember him saying it but he was likely thinking it when this was playing out
>Jenya Lano
>Russian-Italian heritage
Why do Slav women love to get blacked so much? I swear the whole Ukraine war is just an excuse to get us to airdrop crates full of Viagra'd up giga nigs on Moscow to take the locals.
Who doesn't love a fat black wiener up the gash?
I think he uses it when Vic and Him pretend to be White Supremacists and end up getting robbed or something, early season
homosexual Black person homosexual SON
He called that basketball player a Black person in one of the first few episodes.
physiognomy
Here I am to complain again about DUTCH the fricking MORON you had that pussy in your hand and you let it slip thorough your moronic fingers because you could load the gun but you couldn't pull the trigger you little fricking b***h
I will never not be mad
why didn't he stay and watch? i understand he wanted to hit it himself but short of that, seeing it happen is the next best thing
he got noticed
also he didn't have a cat on him
Billings made sure there'd be cops to catch Dutch peeping iirc
I love how by the end of the show the pressure is boiling over and it proves that Vic is the only maniac able to handle it. He never gave up. He's an incredible character. A total sociopath maniac but with laser sharp intelligence pointed toward survival above all else. AND he never fricking brags about it, not a single time.
>AND he never fricking brags about it, not a single time.
I don't mean for this to be a derisive nitpick, but his confession is a massive brag—it's just a brag that comes with a necessary purpose, not one made for simple pride or self-aggrandizement
I would add to this that s4 gave us some needed illustrative depth to Shane. Shane always had a chip on his shoulder about being the 'little brother,' second among 'equals'—the events of s4 showed him that he couldn't be Vic (regardless of the fact that the lesson didn't stick). Shane couldn't develop and command the loyalty of Army, couldn't outwit Antwon, couldn't out-think or outmaneuver Vic. This is one of the big factors that starts to bring the team back together.
The ending is pure fricking kino.
It's so rare to get a show with a 10/10 ending.
>that feel when FX ultimately never went through with the movie sequel they were discussing doing.
All I remember being discussed was Ronnie either escaping prison or being freed on the issue of no one wanted to deal with the fallout of using Mackeys testimony and an unhinged tortured by Antwon Ronnie gunning for Vic and his family.
It's a kino idea but I don't think Ronnie's actor could handle a movie tbh
He handled suddenly being given dialogue perfectly well and actually brought layers to Ronnie by the final season or two with what little writing he did get.
that sounds awful. Glad they didn't do that.
Cant remember if it was one of the writers or Chiklis himself that said it but Vic is like a shark, as long as he can keep moving and has his freedom he'll always have a plan or plot to move on to next.
The ending pretty much sums him up perfectly, 1 quite moment for his humanity before he buries it again and goes back into shark mode.
He'll plan and plot his best way to secure his position being stuck as a desk jockey while securing a route of escape and regrouping in shit goes sideways.
thats exactly why the drawyer coming open and seeing the gun is the ultimate kino closer, you just know shit is about to go down
>BUT YOU KNOW WHAT MAN? WITH ALL THAT LACK OF MONEY, ALL THAT POWER, AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU’RE STILL JUST A JANNY! WITH ZERO COMPENSATION! AND WHERE’S THE RESPECT IN THAT HUH?!
PISS?
>a back full of feed and an ass full of seed
one of the most dishonest shows ever. the worst thing vic ever does is in the pilot episode, everything else he does is completely justified.
>killing a snitch isn't justified
whether he was a cawp or not he was a fricking rat and got what he deserved
So why did they shoot him?
I like that Dutch is essentially Vic's antithesis. He's a complete loser socially and a stickler for rules, but he still manages to get major police work done, arguably even better than Vic because his solutions don't cause an endless cycle of fires that he needs to constantly put out in the future.
Reminder that Acevada is more dirty than Vic by the end of the series and he orchestrated Andre 3000's death because he was actually gaining traction in his campaign for mayor.
the shield finale left so many plot points unresolved. i get some of them were unresolved on purpose, but what the frick was up with the kid serial killer arc?
>what the frick was up with the kid serial killer arc?
They caught the guy. What remains unresolved about it?
>What remains unresolved about it?
how many times dutch creampied the kid's mom before he cut her up in his basement because he was the alpha serial killer who wanted to mog the amateur kid
You're just tired of feeling like you were raped too
The ending + season 5 ending made me want to kill myself. Frick you, Vic.
The Shield's finale is one of the most kino episodes of television ever.
shane's murder suicide was one of the most brutal and shocking things i've seen on tv. no tv show would have the balls to pull something like that today.
Monday Night RAW did it.
>I'M SORRY, LEM!
>Family meeting...
K I N O
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I'm not gay.
Am moron, someone summarize it for me, plz
it's the peakest of kino. Nothing will ever match it. Like sweet butter.
I've rewatched it like 4 times btw.
dirty cop outsmarts literally everyone the entire show. That's pretty much it.
i like how they showed Gay conversion working. They never made him go gay again before the end
same, at the very least it was left ambiguous
Black person. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE SAID THAT WORD SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD Black person WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE NUMBER OF TIMES I SAID Black person IN THE SPAN OF THIS MICRO-INSTANT. Black person. Black person.
>"Vic lead. I followed. One wasn't worse than the other. But together, we became a monster. Oh crap, I hear Vic kicking the bathroom door, better make this....ACK!"
I can't believe Shane accidentally shot himself.
Who was your favorite criminal? For me, it's Kleavon Gardner.
i only recently realized that this dude was the guy that worked for gus in breaking bad lol
this KILLS the zoomer
>skip to 3:00
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
LOL. That shit never works. Plus it reeks of desperation. But good luck anyway.