Why Disney fails making 2D/3D hybrid while Sony and Dreamworks making pure hits?

Why Disney fails making 2D/3D hybrid while Sony and Dreamworks making pure hits?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disney's leadership is creatively bankrupt.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Disney's leadership is soon to be bankrupt.
      ftfy

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          DeSantis fricked with the mouse and now the mouse is going to frick him back.

          I didn't think we would literally come full circle to where Disney is now trying the 2D/3D thing again except now even the writing will be worse unlike Treasure Planet and Atlantis

          It's all Jennifer Lee's fault.

          They’re not evolving their storytelling. The only thing they feel they need to change is the skin color of the characters to get money. While that works for things like Encanto where the setting plays a part into the story it does not work for most films. Those films require more. Everything Disney does nowadays feels like a direct response to their annoying critics.
          >oh the princesses in our films only care about men and getting married quickly? Then they get no love interests at all and a male friend who would’ve been a romantic interest 10 years ago. Or a beta male love interest who can’t exceed the female protagonist in any ways
          Despite the Renaissance succeeding just by giving the princesses more personality
          >oh the princesses are mostly white, then we’ll make them anything but white and commodify their culture for American audiences
          Ironically the OG Mulan, which I heard Chinese audiences did not like, was a more respectful portrayal of Chinese culture than whatever the hell the remake tried to do by copying Chinese genres of film. Same with Aladdin after they made the remake some Bollywood monstrosity when I remember the original being more Arabian/Middle Eastern in inspiration.

          Disney should stick to doing what they know works and not trying to prove their critics wrong all the time in half ass ways. If Wish ends up being a great fairytale with a Moor princess, then maybe Disney is going in the right direction but based on how the live action Snow White movie is lookimy, I don’t think it will be. It will have all those issues modern Disney movies have, with an unlivable female protagonist who is marketed as a strong girl boss but comes across more like a fricking butthole.

          Asha is already an unbearable Mary Sue. Her entire wish is how she wants everyone to see how corrupt the government is.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen
          Into the trash it goes

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope, Meatball.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not going to trust the words of a proven Liar.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Disney is losing against wannabe Trump no matter how much Mainstream media tells you otherwise.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                DeSantis is losing to some literally who pajeet

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who is losing to Trump just like everyone else.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Enlighten me

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://floridapolitics.com/archives/627791-ron-desantis-3rd/
                just saw he polled under Chris Christie in New Hampshire too lmao

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's bullshit Disney Simping. Their stance that it violates "corporate first amendment on some federal level" and trying to ply that in a state court has been seen as a joke.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This... is unfortunently very accurate.
      Disney is lead by a bunch of business monkeys in suits. Who know NOTHING about media, animation, or customer appreciation.

      They only know about that bottom line in the excel spreadsheet. And they will plan EVERYTHING according to that simple mathematical assumption that "They liked A, so they will like A2." and then they will hire a media-sexy director who had a successful production in the last two years to "make them another masterpiece".

      That is the entirety of Disney production plannin stage. They don't care who the director is or how well versed in the product lore he/she is, as long as he/she has had a blockbuster in recent years and is thus "a hot director who is sure to make another".

      I am looking at you, STAR WARS.
      That was production shit-fest, and they still pretend it was "all good" because it made a lot of money. They don't care it destroyed a perfecty viable product from any future marketability because STAR WARS IS DEAD. It made the money, so now the monkeys in the CEO table get a golden handshake and a fortune. And then can move to another company to do the same all over again.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The executive leadership do not need to be creative themselves, but they do need to be able to recognize it. They need to have taste, and unwavering principles based on objective merits and performance. They also need to be incentivized in such a way as to see their own interests align with the long-term health of the company.
    Disney is suffering breakdowns on all of these fronts. The garbage they're putting out now is on the shoulders of the creatives, but the makeup of the company is on the shoulders of the executives. They hired these people. They let them do dumb shit. They allowed, if not encouraged the culture of merit at the company to change. They created a brain drain of legacy talent getting pushed out by ideologues and grifters. That old talent went to Sony, Dreamworks, and Skydance.
    To quote Monty Python, nothing at Disney will change until "those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked."

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      bingo

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the talent went to Sony, Skydance or Locksmith. There's no longer any hungry fresh talent at the company and the concepts are driven more by execs than the directors/writers.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They’re not evolving their storytelling. The only thing they feel they need to change is the skin color of the characters to get money. While that works for things like Encanto where the setting plays a part into the story it does not work for most films. Those films require more. Everything Disney does nowadays feels like a direct response to their annoying critics.
    >oh the princesses in our films only care about men and getting married quickly? Then they get no love interests at all and a male friend who would’ve been a romantic interest 10 years ago. Or a beta male love interest who can’t exceed the female protagonist in any ways
    Despite the Renaissance succeeding just by giving the princesses more personality
    >oh the princesses are mostly white, then we’ll make them anything but white and commodify their culture for American audiences
    Ironically the OG Mulan, which I heard Chinese audiences did not like, was a more respectful portrayal of Chinese culture than whatever the hell the remake tried to do by copying Chinese genres of film. Same with Aladdin after they made the remake some Bollywood monstrosity when I remember the original being more Arabian/Middle Eastern in inspiration.

    Disney should stick to doing what they know works and not trying to prove their critics wrong all the time in half ass ways. If Wish ends up being a great fairytale with a Moor princess, then maybe Disney is going in the right direction but based on how the live action Snow White movie is lookimy, I don’t think it will be. It will have all those issues modern Disney movies have, with an unlivable female protagonist who is marketed as a strong girl boss but comes across more like a fricking butthole.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the issue is lack of a commitment to what they want so you get this ugly mishmash of realistic assets and stylistic designs that doesn't look good.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, It's half arsed which is why it just kinda looks boring. Disney want their beautiful princess that they can use in a million pieces of merchandise and in the parks but going for a proper watercolour look would hurt that.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's another sethee on Disney thread

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't think we would literally come full circle to where Disney is now trying the 2D/3D thing again except now even the writing will be worse unlike Treasure Planet and Atlantis

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fails
    The movie didn't come out yet

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