why do only the atreides have nukes. seems like that would be pretty useful for any of the major houses
also if the worms are such a big problem why didn't the harkonnens just drop a fricking bomb or poison down its giant gaping maw after summoning one. problem solved.
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Bait or moronation?
All the great houses have nukes, what Paul had going for him was the element of surprise. Everybody assumed that the Atreides atomics got wiped out with them so they were a card nobody knew Paul had to play. Hell, even Paul doesn't know about them until Gurney reveals them.
they're also not allowed to use them. much like RL it's mutually assured destruction if everybody starts nuking everyone else. so there's a treaty in place, essentially.
paul gets around this on a technicality by nuking a mountain instead of the enemy army, which makes a hole for sandworms to go through so they can eat said army. yes it's kind of a "the fall didn't kill him, it was the ground" thing, but that sort of bullshit happens in real politics all the time to it works alright.
Do they seriously not explain this shit at all the movies? Read the fricking book if you want answers.
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it literally says It in the movie anon. if you're too moronic to pay attention to the like 20 minutes of dialogue throughout the movie then don't ask questions
doesn't say shit about either of those things in either movie, dumbfrick
the other houses aren't surprised there are nukes, it's the they're worried Paul will use them to frick up the spice. now back to watching snydertard slop
seems like house harkonnen and the fricking emperor with his entire army parked outside his ship were totally unprepared for nukes. they were used to devastating effect, practically won the whole battle.
have a nice day you mongoloid your existence is that of stealing my oxygen
sounds like someones got a little dune sand in their vegana
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Yep, it's a reddit refugee
Both are shit.
>we wanna destroy this house because its ppl are too volatile
>we put them in command of the most important planet in the universe
>then we go in kill them, being very careful to not destroy the most important substance in the universe
>oh they fought back, and now threaten to destroy the most important substance in the universe
>Pikachu reaction face
Dennis Villeneuve thought too much explanation would be weird and boring and confusing, like lynch. So he explained nothing. He also thought too much color would be weird and whacky like jodo, so he filmed dunc in black and white and tan.
And orange!
he could have shown the nukes for a minute instead of another la goblina americana closeup
I did not see part 1 and all of this made sense to me immediately. Obviously they don't want to kill the worms because the worms produce the spice. The worms are the most important creatures probably in the whole universe in the eyes of the duneverse.
Paul threatens to nuke the spice if the families start shit, the families dont care fotlr some reason. Paul reneges on this threat and sends his desert fighters up into space to fight every house in orbit. Spacing guild isn't even a part of it, its just Harkonnen are inept and didn't look south. So much stupidity
All Houses have nukes. They are forbidden to use them "against each other". Thing is, Paul used the nuke to create a massive sand storm that overloaded the Arrakeen city shields. Technically he didn't use the nukes on his enemies.
No, the sandstorm was natural and fricked with the shields. Paul used nukes to blow up the mountainous Shield Wall and then said he broke no rules because he used them against a natural feature of the desert rather than on humans.
Worms create spice, kill them and theres no more spice.
I still feel like the whole worm thing is ridiculous
If spice is so valuable surely there must be a more efficient and safe way of farming it
Or maybe there is and they don't ever bother advancing farming methods because it would affect the sale price, and this is never explained
It's like uhh truffles
The other houses have nukes but they're forbidden. Using them would get you in trouble with the emperor and landsraad, Paul doesn't give a shit about that but the other houses do.
Worms are essential for spice production. Killing them would kill the spice flow.
Yeah right Paul has the capabilities to nuke all the sandworms. What kind of a threat is that anyway? Let me destroy you or I'll destroy myself? Frick it then, if there's even the slightest odds that one sandworm will survive, it's still better than the assured destruction of your house.
>1000 of Fremen can take over the planet
>there's millions of fremens stretch over thousand sietches
>get subjugated and persecuted by the great houses for centuries.
what gives?
They literally don't give a shit and are just collecting water until they can terraform the whole planet.
They weren't unified until Liet Kynes gave them a multi-generational terraforming project to work towards. Also they were generally left alone. The Harkonnens would occasionally hunt a few for sport, but that wasn't intolerable to the Fremen, who were used to living short, violent lives. Also, despite being good fighters who could skirmish and raid well enough, the fremen weren't a potent military force until Paul took command. Having a prescient leader is kind of EZ mode.
Majority of fremen live in the south and aren't fricked with at all due to them paying off the spacing guild. Only about a handful of tribes are actually in the north fricking with the harkonnen
They were waiting for mud dober
Dey IQ is low. They are arab/indian hybrids.
War is won by logistics. The fremen were devoting their logistic efforts towards the terraforming dream.
This is true of every subjugated population in history.
For the same reason the mongols achieved nothing until despite being proficient horse archers until they were unified under the banner of leader in Genghis Khan
>also if the worms are such a big problem why didn't the harkonnens just drop a fricking bomb or poison down its giant gaping maw after summoning one
this question is asked pretty much verbatim in the book
No worms = no spice
>why do only the atreides have nukes
They don't, all the houses have them, I'm pretty sure they mention this in the movie
> why didn't the harkonnens just drop a fricking bomb or poison down its giant gaping maw
The worm ecosystem is what makes the spice
>also if the worms are such a big problem why didn't the harkonnens just drop a fricking bomb or poison down its giant gaping maw after summoning one.
Werms produce oxygen, Arrakis is uninhabitable without them
no, worms produce spice and thats the only reason this planet is invaluable
No, the worms produce oxygen, without which humans could not occupy the planet
you are wrong
Get a load of this lorelet
Find me a single reference to worms making oxygen
>"Dune Worms Oxygen"
You're incapable of inputting three words into a search engine, lorelet?
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>"haha, I was only pretending to be moronic!"
Go tell your mom about your ebin troll
Nice reference bro, nice quote directly taken from an appendix that clearly states worms produce oxygen, that really made your point
I've asked a non-free LLM.
In Frank Herbert's classic science fiction novel "Dune", the giant sandworms of Arrakis do not directly produce oxygen for the planet. However, they do play a critical role in the planet's ecology.
The sandworms are essential for producing the spice melange, the most valuable substance in the Dune universe. Melange is a byproduct of the sandworms' life cycle. The worms are attracted to the vibrations and movements of spice mining equipment, suggesting some connection between the worms and spice.
While the worms themselves don't generate oxygen, the novel indicates that Arrakis does have oxygen in its atmosphere. This is likely produced by sparse vegetation that is able to survive in the harsh desert environment, potentially sustained by the moisture and nutrients churned up by the sandworms' movements through the sands.
So in summary, while the sandworms of Arrakis are not direct oxygen producers, they are keystone species that enable the planet's unique spice-based ecology to function, with some vegetation likely responsible for any oxygen production. The worms are essential to the planet but not in terms of oxygen generation.
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>"Even shai-hulud had a place in the charts. He must never be destroyed, else spice wealth would end. But his inner digestive "factory," with its enormous concentrations of aldehydes and acids, was a giant source of oxygen. A medium worm (about 200 meters long) discharged into the atmosphere as much oxygen as ten square kilometers of green growing photosynthesis surface."
even redditors know more than you.
How could someone know more than nothing? If I know nothing then someone else knows something rather than more than me.
This is yet another proof that LLMs are useless.
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Whats the point of nukes when you can trivially lazer a shield anytime you want?
>previous movie shows space lasers are unimaginably powerful
>le heckin nukes are the ultimate forbidden weapon
Why? The movie has several technologies that make them look like toys in comparison
Didn't see the movies, but in the books lasers are hard countered by shields:
If you fire a laser on a shielded targets, there will be an explosion on both ends.
But that seems even more powerful: just mind break slaves into firing lasers at your enemy: you lose one slave and his weapon, they will lose a lot more.
>there will be an explosion on both ends
a nuclear explosion, but you could still have remotely controlled lasguns on drones or something?
It's just moronic idea Frank did not think through because we was a pussy that was never in a fight.
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duh, absolutely sheltered
Dune isn't a moronic simple children's tale like LOTR, it's all politics. You could, but you would violate the Great Convention, and that's a risk nobody wants to take.