Why do people especially modern writers feel the need to have Peter Parker retire his Spider-Man persona so Miles can take over? It's quite clear that the truest version of the character will never do it because it's in his core to help when he has the powers to do so
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>modern writers
Clone Saga was all about getting rid of Peter and having Ben take over. Spider-Girl was about a retired Peter having a family and his daughter being a superhero. That is something Marvel has been doing every once in a while for decades.
The Clone Saga is unironically shit though and they backpedalled on this hard. The idea also was more about having Peter's story end while continuing making a buck with Spider-Man comics, so nothing artistically valuable. Corporate slop one might even say. OP is right
>Clone Saga
Peter didn't actually quit for real until he fully lost his powers, and also everyone hated Peter being replaced so they rightfully backpedaled on it.
>Spider-Girl
Peter only actually quits for realsies this time because he lost his leg. He even laments that he wasn't sure if he'd ever have been able to quit had the decision not been made for him
Could Mr Fantastic or any of the Avengers various reality warpers or ultra genius' not just whip him up a new leg?
He could have, but with an infant daughter around Peter did want to go out with a leg that may or may not be as good as he once had.which would increase the risk of him dying.
He does eventually get a prosthetic leg but it's ability to cling to walls isn't as reliable as Peter's natural abilities and it fricks him up. He can't operate at peak efficiency anymore and when he has responsibilities to his family he can't go out and nearly get himself killed every night
I won't go into it in too much detail, but there are story arcs about him trying to be spider-man again using prosthetics made by Reed and stuff. There are calibration issues, and it almost gets him killed, and he's out of practice. Ultimately, he decides that continuing to test it would be irresponsible.
That said, he comes out of retirement in a number of situations, but it's clear he's around 50 years old, and his best days are behind him, but the current age of heroes revere him as a legend. There was a moment where he came in costume to assist his daughter and the Avengers with a situation regarding Electro's daughter, where people go quiet as he enters and are in awe that he'd come back.
It's about as perfect of a setup for Peter retiring as you can imagine. Partly because it keeps showing him frequently feeling like he has to step back up and he can't resist.
Ben's replacement was only meant to be temporary in order to court media attention and sales, it's only due to greed that it went the way it did. It was never going to end with Peter permanently retired, and that's pretty clear that he doesn't ACTUALLY retire until he temporarily loses his powers - even after leaving NYC he still does the Spider stuff
There really has been quite a significant degree of revisionism over the last few months to justify the current state of the comics with "but muh clones", I wonder what Marvel meant by this
Fans hated that shit even back then too. Just because the Clone Saga is almost 30 years old doesn't mean it deserves any special treatment when even at the time it was a bloated, frustrating mess that was thankless to keep up with. And you know, I'd even give it to them that Ben Riley has actually grown on me a little in hindsight, and frankly even Miles has sort of become endearing too at least in his adaptations. Same with Otto in his Superior run... kind of.
But the issue is they're couched within these manipulative narratives that depend upon Peter bowing out of his superhero career or dying as if he was never that important or special in the role to begin with. They call so much attention to this idealistic notion that "anybody can be Spider-Man" that they have to write Peter as some cucked nobody, as if he hasn't earned the prestige of being one of the most beloved heroes of all time. And it's all because Marvel is unwilling to give HIM the growth that fans have been desperate to see, people want to see him married and figuring out a work-life balance. They'd love to see him as a family man, and somebody liberated from the desperation and secrecy that crippled his young adulthood or the tragedies that forged him in fire.
(cont.) Plus, you know, with all of that being said you don't even need to throw Miles away. They could've let him stay in the Ultimate Universe, maybe tried harder to mine out his own mythos or remix possibilities that wouldn't fly in the 616 universe. I don't want even want Miles to fail, but the thing is, it's honestly impossible not to acknowledge just how hard Marvel needs Peter Parker to flounder just so Miles can be artificially put on a pedestal through manipulative marketing, which is especially sad since merit is just as valid of an option. The Spider-Verse movies I think were fine in leaving some relative respectability to Peter and elevated the possibilities Miles could offer, but the Insomniac games really seem to love slipping in little microaggressions to insinuate that Peter fundamentally sucks, and a lot of other media likes to trend that way too.
Even the way comics are marketed, I swear to god I can't find any of Peter's best stories in trade paperback form anymore unless you resort to online retailers. ONE MORE DAY still gets piles of reprints and Peter's shelf space has never been thinner, all while they put any stupid fricking Spider-Verse book they've got on the shelves and treat Miles as though he's got some wealth of classic stories to hook new readers in.
I swear, this feels schizophrenic to even speculate on but it really does feel like there's an agenda out against Peter. Just fricking look at the cesspool that is his current run, dude is getting cucked by an npc and continues to get his character assassinated even while fricking Norman Osborn of all people gets the chance to have the moral high ground. Look at how they fricking wrote him in the MCU as Tony Stark's sugar baby sidekick, the way he's trivialized into a shallow parody in current Disney cartoons. Despite being a flourishing IP Marvel fricking hates his guts and seems to be mandating across multiple mediums to not let him shine.
>The Spider-Verse movies I think were fine in leaving some relative respectability to Peter and elevated the possibilities Miles could offer
The first one had him spray-paint the costume of a dead guy he knew for 5 minutes, then claim he made it, the second had multiverse of Parkers joining a death cult with no questions asked, so he could look better in comparison, I don’t know what you are smoking.
miles is unironically better adjusted
superheroes shouldn't be well adjusted, there should be that little bit of mania that compels them to do stupid shit
Which is what makes him boring. This is why people connect so well with flawed heroes. They feel very human ie real.
That buck born broken is a boring ass homie with no character flaws
The difference was the clone saga was about trying to give pete a decent start at a family. Miles has just turned the core story of Spider-Man from “a man who always gets back up” to “peter Parker is NEVER enough”
>key point if the character is watching him struggle with juggling his life with being a hero
>remove that
Why?
Because it's their equivalent of the BBC fetish.
That's more related to how they don't really give Miles any challenges. There's no Paul equivalent for miles....yet.
>character who exists in a city with plenty of active vigilantes including Spider-Man, goes to a way better school, has living parents and has no money troubles is better adjusted as a vigilante than the dude that started out pretty much entirely on his own as a 15 year old and had to learn everything with zero advice while being a poorgay because their sole breadwinner died
Wow! Shocking!
Is there anyone in his life that isn't totally 150% supportive of him being Spider-man?
Ganke makes his web-fluid and provides intel, his clones kill eachother for his convenience, his villains are just good girls who didn't know their notorious grandfather was a villain, Pete's villains just work with Miles instead of against him... I honestly don't know about the situation with his parents or uncle.
His uncle reformed for movie synnergy
His parents are 100% supportive of him and his dad is an ex-SHIELD agent
No, he isn't. He's unchallenged and boring as a result.
It's contrived though. How is someone supposed to believe that someone could take care of work, superhero life and their love relationship. Just being successful at one thing is hard enough
Character evolution. Peter growing to learn that he can trust other people and the world simply won't collapse without his presence. It is impossible to do it all, relying on other not only allows more to be done, but also allows him more time to be Peter, to keep promises, to make dates, to maintain obligations etc.
>Character evolution
Where exactly is the evolution there? Spider-Man No More made the point that his life isn't all that shit since he has people who love and understand him already despite Peter having a busy life. The idea that he wouldn't trust closed ones years into being Spider-Man is completely ridiculous and Milestrannies of course haven't read the things they are talking about.
It's not about People trusting Peter, or not being understanding of his hectic schedule. It's about Peter not treating those around him like tools. Anyone not in the know, or having the virtue of a Saint would instantly feel like a convenience to Parker. He'd blow in and out of their life on his terms and his terms alone. Peter should be trying to give something back. Miles getting more prominent allows that to happen.
>It's about Peter not treating those around him like tools.
Honestly have you ever read a Spider-Man comicbook or even watched his movies? What the frick are you even talking about? He never treats them like tools. The reason he continues doing what he does is because he wants to help humanity and because of the love for his foster parents. There is a billion capers in New York in the comics as well. This was never about him and only him protecting it to die a messiah's death but to prevent having another Uncle Ben die again while he has the power to stop it. There could be an infinite amount of Spider-Man who do work and he would still do it because great power etc.
You're bias from Peter's perspective because. You know why Peter misses events and such because the stories are told from his POV. The other characters don't.
And you're taking the biased perspective of an Esl Milestrannie who has never read a single Spider-Man book or watched any Spider-Man movie. Peter's POV isn't unreliable in the slightest
No one said it's unreliable. When is that ever stated? I'm telling you how it feels to be a friend of Peter Parker. For 90% of the time it feels like shit. The extremely diligent 10% of "this homie will die for you" is nice but it's not something that is 'fair'. You can never blame others for feeling that way, it's a legitimate response to how they perceive their relationship with Peter. When placed 'in the know' everyone instantly understands. But if they aren't than I'm not going to slight them for being pissed or sad about it.
>No one said it's unreliable.
>Claim Peter uses his cast as tools
>Say this moronic shit: "You know why Peter misses events and such because the stories are told from his POV"
Obviously you don't know english well but Spider-Man perspective is in the focus because he is the main character. We see other pov's as well but they aren't the focus because they aren't the main characters you braindead Milestrannie. He never uses them as tools. He is Spider-Man because he genuinely wants to help people, not because there is no other Spider-Men to take care of his weight.
>You can never blame others for feeling that way, it's a legitimate response to how they perceive their relationship
Project your headcanon somewhere else. It's clear you have some issues but we're talking about Spider-Man, not your private life.
By this point most of his supporting cast actually does. And MJ gets mad that he actually helps people instead of spending time with her.
>words words words
This is "good comics" according to Cinemaphilemblr trannies
You’re trying too hard to fit in
Visual medium dingus
Exactly!
That's complete nonsense and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the character.
It isn't about "oh, there's a hero calling themself a spider, that means I don't have to do anything"
It's about "If I was out there, I could have saved people."
There's always been lots of heroes in New York, but Pete never stops because heroes can't be everyone at once.
Why do you want Peter to fail just so Miles can replace him? There's other black characters you know, but you decide to latch onto the recolor? Pathetic.
Their secondaries/modern Spider-Man fans who can't read the best era of Spider-Man comic because they're too old for them. The insecurity of not being true fans of the character causes them to go along with any new shit that gets pumped out in an attempt to create a new true Spider-Man that they can claim is the best. Making themselves feel better about never having read the actual good era of the character
It's because Spider-man is a built in brand. They don't want to do the hard work of establishing a hero, a supporting cast and taking years to tell good stories. They want the credit of creating a character without the effort of creating a character so they just latch onto the backs of their predecessors so they can get the fame that comes with an established A list character.
>Peter growing to learn that he can trust other people and the world simply won't collapse without his presence.
Why wouldn't he already know this? New York has like 50 heroes. Hell the Spiderman game had to give an excuse as to why the avengers didn't show up.
So when is Miles going to grow and learn he can trust other people and that the world won't collapse without his presence?
After he puts in ten years of being Spider-Man and has to slow down in order to nurture his life as Miles Morales.
So when is that? Peter keeps being given his ten years right from the get-go in order for Miles to hop in
Dude Miles is barely over ten years old in terms of publishing history.
And?
>the world simply won't collapse without his presence
>I have the POWER to help therefore the RESPONSIBILITY to do so
The people shilling this literally don't understand the meaning of
>With great power there must also come great responsibility
Because they're sick of his whiny bullshit, but editorial won't allow him to get over himself, so writers want to replace him with someone who isn't a self-centered little b***h.
But the whiny bullshit is the fault of the writers and editors themselves
>Write Spider-Man to be a cuck
>Complain about him being a cuck
Just listen to yourself here
I be fine if Peter retired honestly.
A hundred years from now, no one will remember that Spider-Man was white.
It’s just a US thing, dude. The rest of the world still prefer Peter Parker.
The rest of the world just knows him as Spider-Man lmfao.
The majority of the world knows that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, and it’s odd how much they’re trying to destroy that simple brand recognition
Peter who?
Unironically, even American blacks find Peter Parker more relatable than Miles.
>It’s just a US thing, dude. The rest of the world still prefer Peter Parker
>The rest of the wo-
Only east asia
No Way Home was the #1 selling movie in Mexico until Mario dethroned it.
Trading in the working class guy for the privileged middle class one? Class struggles are a thing that the entire world can relate to. It’s one of the reasons why Spidey is so loved worldwide.
A hundered years from now the idea of race will be as quaint as a tribe.
I will remember
I actually understand the reasoning. If they refuse to give miles his own identity than it's moronic to have Spider-Man AND Spider-Man P2 running around at the same time. Now I think it's lame that Peter has to be the one who has to go by default, but social awareness and editorial mandate are likely on Miles side so Peter becomes the easy choice when removing the redundancy.
This could have been easily avoided by just giving Miles his own spin on the Spider-Man identity when he realized he was now a refugee in a universe where Peter was still alive, but now it's too late and changing his name will come off as Marvel buckling to the idea that he's not THE Spider-Man.
Miles is at the mercy of fans and writers who view "winning" as more important than good stories
He’s called Miles Morales on all the merchandise while Pete’s still Spider-Man. That Amazing Friends cartoon that little kids watch call him Spin there.
No one writes comics like this. The movie was specifically a Miles movie. The game just had him retire so they could have an excuse to do another Miles game without Peter being involved, he'll obviously be back for 3, that's what the stinger is for.
>No one writes comics like this
What? Do you mean good? This is an extremely famous comic issue for the most celebrated superhero of all time
>The movie was specifically a Miles movie
He literally replaced Peter Parker in his movies
>The game just had
So they had Peter replaced and you wanna justify your headcanon just like last time when you said after the first game that he wouldn't be replaced, got it.
>What?
I mean comics where the intent is to retire Peter and replace him with Miles. Peter will never retire.
>So they had Peter replaced and you wanna justify your headcanon just like last time when you said after the first game that he wouldn't be replaced, got it.
I don't even like the games but if you think he won't be a main character in the third game when they've set up a plot where it's his villains going after him specifically, you have comprehension problems.
>Peter will never retire.
Then they should stop having legacy shitters trying to take his place.
>if you think he won't be a main character in the third game when they've set up a plot where it's his villains going after him specifically, you have comprehension problems.
Says the moron who honestly used the Miles movies as an example of Peter not getting replaced lmao. Have you considered that Peter won't do shit until the finale of the third game and maybe he isn't in the main role anymore like MJ was in the previous two games? No because you're a braindead moron who justifies dogshit writing first with baseless headcanon. The whole second game makes a point about Peter not being needed anymore and it ends with him leaving New York to Miles. Either you you get dogshit writing practically making the second game filler or you get Miles as main character leaving Peter in a side role because that's what the game told you it would do.
>Says the moron who honestly used the Miles movies as an example of Peter not getting replaced lmao.
It was conceived from the ground up as a Miles movie and it takes place within a multiverse. Sony kept doing live action movies with Peter Parker and they will keep doing them. You won't see a point where they're only doing Spider-Man stuff with Miles.
>Have you considered that Peter won't do shit until the finale of the third game and maybe he isn't in the main role anymore
Stories have to follow a structure. "Osborn and Octavius are going after the Spider-Man they have a beef with so they're attacking his replacement for 2/3rds of the game" is a story that wouldn't work. They wrote out Peter in the DLC for the first game by having him go to another country. They couldn't pull of that trick twice, so it's a "retirement" similar to all the "Spider-Man No More" moments we've had throughout the decades.
This contrived bullshit wishes it could be Spider-Man No More
It is a literal corporate mandate at Sony that Peter is THE Spider-man, they are not going to release spider-man 3 without Peter being front and center.
>So they had Peter replaced and you wanna justify your headcanon just like last time when you said after the first game that he wouldn't be replaced, got it.
Anon are you going to take the stance that game 3 won't be Peter vs Norman like they've been setting up? Because you will lose that bet.
Remind me again why is Miles getting entire multiple movies and games specifically for him?
Money is money and if they can make more money, they'll do it.
But they would have made more money with Peter
That would run the risk of running Spider-Man into the ground and make them lose money. The hook that separated Spider-Verse from the live-action movies was that it was about Miles. The hook that made Miles Morales separate from The City That Never Sleeps was that you played as Miles.
So you think if Bruce was called Dick in The Batman but everything else stayed the same, it would've somehow magically not contributed to Batman fatigue?
If anything the torrent of Spider-People in those movies makes the fatigue far worse.
Spider-Man was run into the ground a long time ago. Also the hook for Spider-Verse was the animation style and the multiverse crap, it would have done just as well if not better had the marketing focused on Peter.
The hook that made Miles Morales separate from the City that never sleeps was that Miles Morales was a stand-alone while the other was an expansion
It was stand-alone because you played as Miles. Content-wise it was no different from DLC.
It was standalone because it was marketed, promoted, and sold as standalone. In Insomniac's head it was no less of a full game than Majora's Mask.
>and sold as standalone
It was actually packaged with the main game.
The remaster of the main game was sold as an optional bonus
But Miles makes 5x less money than Peter in anything he appears in
Gotta push poochie
Because he’s black.
if you're talking about the new game Peter isn't even retiring he's just taking a break to get his shit together with MJ and is comfortable enough to leave Miles to pick up the slack.
Not saying it's been done well so far but why is the Spider-Man fanbase so hostile towards a Batman Beyond type scenario?
Stop.
No one is against Miguel though.
The three Peters that died/retired so Miles can take over were 15, 25, and 26 respectively. Peter is being killed off in his prime so a blatant copycat can take over and just repeat all his stories and arcs and fight his villains, which is frankly ridiculous. Imagine killing off Luffy right now so some brand new dark skinned character can take over and find the One Piece instead, there'd be riots in the streets.
Cause it's not. Batman Beyond worked because Terry had the OG Bruce to give him his gadgets and give advice both in the mansion and on the field. Every scenario where Miles becomes the main Spider-Man outright has him replace Peter by forcing him to retire and never get involved again, unless he's forced back into action to clean up one of Miles' frickups.
Plus Terry was his own Batman with his own way of handling things. Miles is just a carbon copy of Peter, but black.
Spider-Man 2099 and Spider-Girl exist and people love them
Because I don't a single frick about Batman. This is Spider-Man. Not LE BAT FAMILY
Think it through and think on what has happened. A lot of what writers did until now were constant reboots. People have become tired of static universes, things never changing, a permanent status quo. If they grew up with young peter and then they got old, then they want him to be older too.
what the frick are you talking about. its like happened 3 times at the absolute max
>Spider-Man 2(PS5), even then he says he's on a break
>Ultimate Spider-Man, but that was Bendis doing an ass-pull happy ending
>probably one I'm forgetting but its a what-if one shot that had no greater value
most of the time Peter is just outright dead like in the original Ultimate book or Spider-Verse
Miles' arc in the second game is hilariously undercooked. It pays lip service that he wants revenge on Li, but he never goes out of his way to hunto him down. His other plot point is that he can't finish a fricking essay.
And nearly all his side-missions are about esg shit, despite all the wanking, this game really highlights how he's such an nothing character.
Modern “writers” would have retired Peter a decade ago if the merchandisers of the Walmart Spidey shit that Marvel makes it’s actual money from weren’t a factor, they’d pitch a fit if the “real” Spider-Man was suddenly a new guy only twitter cares about.
what is the point of Miles in this game?
>missing for huge chunks of the main story
>character arc about wanting revenge on Mister Negative is undercooked, never goes out of his way into hunting Li down
>Most of his side quests are about raising the ESG score up
Dude is just here for diversity woke points, he's fricking pointless
I don't know
That's not true in ASM so I don't know why Cinemaphile has a perpetual victim complex about it
Because everyone feels Peter Parker's story was told and done. He lived his life, got married had a kid, and retired. His path is clear.
Trying to keep him in what turned him into the pathetic cucked loser he currently is. There have been no good Peter Parker stories for more than a decade now. The biggest ones were Spider-verse and Superior-Spiderman, stories that involved other characters being Spider-men.
>The biggest ones were Spider-verse and Superior-Spiderman, stories that involved other characters being Spider-men.
lol
Tell me your favorite Slott, Spencer and Wells stories anon
Dude, that’s just the comics. Only nerds care about those. Meaning that the majority haven’t read them. You can still do plenty of stories with Pete in movies and games. There’s still a frick ton to pull from that has been untouched by past adaptations.
have a nice day.
>Writers wants it to happen
>Marvel wants it to happen
>Disney wants it to happen
>Sony wants it to happen
>Insomniac wants it to happen
>Tom Holland wants to it to happen
Why do you guys bother fighting against the inevitable? You could’ve stopped this by letting Spider-Verse and the PS games bomb but you gave them your money and told them it was fine.
Reminder that the memeverse movies are the worst performing Spider-Man movies.
Exactly
Once you go black, you never go back
Miles isn’t some hood homie. He’s literally Urkel. A privileged middle class kid. Pete struggles way more than him.
Frick off with this "you" business, I didn't pay jack to any of those
All I want is for Miles to have original stories, ideas, villains, etc.
Hell, call him Spider-man while you're making this original stuff if you're too cowardly to give him an original identity, but don't just have him wallow in Pete's stuff.
Because Miles has been redundant (and hideously boring) since his inception, and I don’t take my cues from mega corporations, Marvel “writers,” or virtue-signaling celebrities.
>Picrel
True
An I guess the actual readers don't factor into this at all?
Miles' comics sell less than Peter's, Miles movies made the least of any Spider-man movie, and Miles' solo game sold less than than Peter's (even at a cheaper price).
Miles is the character they want to shove down our throats. Unfortunately, sales tell us it's Peter people are interested in.
Yuu > Miles
Fake Red, best spiderman story we've had in 10 years.
Remind me why they didn’t just make a battle shonen with the actual Spidey instead? That shit should be a no-brainer.
Because the writer is a huge spiderman autist who based the MC off toei spiderman.
Where does Takuya rank on the non-peter spiderman list?
>No superpowers
>Goes out and saves a child from a burning building
>Reluctant to help people
Just one chapter and he's more interesting than Miles in every comic, movie and game ever made what the frick
It's so fricking good.
OH NO AN ATTRACTIVE LOVE INTEREST! QUICK SHE NEEDS TO BE BLACK, BIG NOSED AND DEAF BECAUSE WOMEN AREN'T ATTRACTIVE AND ABLE BODIED IN REAL LIFE! SAVE ME, MILES-MAN!
She’s a dyke, dude.
You weren't kidding. This is actually some of the best Spider material I've read in years. Not that it's saying a lot but man. Just having Peter Parker act like Peter Parker feels like a miracle these days.
>Fake Red, best spiderman story we've had in 10 years.
I'll give it a read. However, I did really think Spider-man: Life Story was pretty damn good.
Nta but my issue with life story is how most of it is about clone shennanigans and it brought in the worst Spider-Man villains ever made
Worse than interdimensional Spiderman eating vampires?
They literally show up randomly in it just to kill of Ben and hurt Peter's children, sadly.
What is this
>Why do people especially modern writers feel the need to have Peter Parker retire his Spider-Man persona so Miles can take over?
Part of a larger attempt at a cultural narrative that you're seeing in several different franchises
Reparashuns
What's worse is fanfic writers who basically turn Peter into Marvel's Batman, IE, Peter Parker is just a mask Spider-Man wears, Peter died and Spider-Man was born simultaneously the day Ben died and shit like that
>fanfic writers who basically turn Peter into Marvel's Batman
In a way he is
>Themed after creature of fear
>Street vigilante
>Wide array of villains of varying types from crime lords to aliens to serial killers to horror monsters
>Anti-Hero/Villain love interest
>Gothic and/or gritty aesthetic makes up a majority of artwork
>Deeply traumatized individuals who keep going in the face of insurmountable odds
>Respective publishers cash cows
Marvel has several heroes who fit the Batman mold
Spider-Man, Daredevil, Iron Man, Nighthawk, Moon Knight, and debatably Wolverine and Punisher
>Peter Parker is just a mask Spider-Man wears
But this is absolutely the case, do you not fricking understand subtext?
Black Cat canonically can see that too
He isn’t Clark Kent-ing. Pete and Spidey are one and the same. There’s no personality difference or anything. It’s a recent idea to have a separation between the two.
Dikto's Peter was really based and full of life. He had "negative" traits but in the end he was a good guy. It made him real imo.
Go away, Marvel employee. Your company has shown for 16+ that they don't understand anything about Spider-man or his supporting cast.
>Black Cat canonically can see that too
And she in universe is full of shit, which she gets called on for it too
Don't be gay and moronic
Peter Parker and Spider-Man are the same being. You can't have one without the other. It is impossible since otherwise he would be like any other boring capeshitter.
In modern Spider-Man that is unironically better than him uselessly clinging to his civilian 'life'. Decades ago Peter would have undeniably been worth fighting for but these days? What the frick does he even have? Especially in the current run? As a certain point you have to question why you should even fricking care.
Ultimate Spider-Man shows an older Peter who as a loving wife and two adorable brats. That's a Peter Parker worth fighting for, to not allow Spider-Man to take over. He has SOMETHING TO FIGHT FOR to continue enjoying his LIFE as PETER. 616 Peter doesn't have that. Not currently.
Because they hate Peter Parker for being White and love Miles for being black.
That’s it.
Peter really should get over his guilt about uncle ben he has a lot and still think he needs to atone.
He does. In multiple series. He still remembers Uncle Ben and the significance of his death, but he's stopped using it as a reason to not shoot for better in life.
because they didn't create it and feel the need to leave "their mark". these idiots either don't understand or would like to change how a character acts just to fit their own warped views
This talk about Miles got me remembering, they did a set of What Ifs about Miles being other heroes
Do those end like old What Ifs did in bittersweet or tragic notes or did they not have the balls?
It's Miles Morales, you tell me if Marvel would dare give him a bad ending, even in parallel universes
Remember when Miles threw a lady out of a window while not wearing a mask? I'm pretty sure nothing came of that
The different Miles teamed up to fight a team of different Aarons who had banded together from their respective universes to remake 616 out of petty revenge.
Extremely homosexual
That's just how it is on this b***h of an Earth.
Because Marvel, SONY, and Disney want to stop paying the higher fees to the estates of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. They're trying to normalize the idea that Spider-man is a "title" instead of a character in the movies, games, comics, etc. so that they can argue precedence in court for the future.
With Miles, they'd pay a lot less to license him since the rights would belong to Marvel instead of the estates of the creators.
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Blade>Miles
Dogshit > Movie/Game Miles
I mean Blade's pretty cool in general.