Why do people pretend this film doesn'tn't happened?
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Why do people pretend this film doesn'tn't happened?
Why do people pretend this film doesn'tn't happened?
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Good morning sir
What people? When? How?
Top. Men.
>doesn'tn't
good morning, sirs
Because they're overcompensating for a deep insecurity. All four of the Reeve films were great.
this is true, my favourite is 3
Superman III is, dare I say, epic. Him facing off with himself still gives me goosebumps.
S3 is underrated.
S2 is overrated.
S1 is correctly rated.
S4 is correctly rated.
>S2 is overrated.
Haha no. Unless of course you're watching the inferior, yet well intentioned Richard Donner Cut, then I can agree. I prefer the ABC cut myself.
this guy gets it
why didnt he get a cameo in the flash?
>It's not an N. But on my world it still stands for Black person.
I heard they brought him back in the comics and did him dirty. Frick that.
Superman villains suck! I'd take Nuclear Man over Mongul, Doomsday, Granny Goodness, Kalibak, etc. If you want to make a joke out of Superman villains, you already have Mytxylplk, Toy Man, and Bizarro. There's no need to nerf badass Nuclear Man.
Lex Luthor kills people, anon.
That doesn't make him a villain. Hell, Superman snapped Zod's neck and the only person who cared was Batman.
>Superman snapped Zod's neck
Non-canon. Supes did throw Zod into the abyss though.
You seem to know your shit. Can you answer me a question? I have never read a single thing about superman: How do villains fight superman? I dont believe there is someone as strong in every corner or that everyone has cryptonite...
Is it rather blackmailing, using hostages and similar stuff? Or they just mess with the power levels
>Or they just mess with the power levels
Mostly this, I think. Lots of punching and DBZ-tier fights. I'm not a Superman expert or the guy you're replying to but I've read a decent amount of comics.0
The whole "Superman is OP all the time so everything he does must be boring" complaint is wrong because the same magic asspull logic used to give him those OP powers in the first place can be applied to villains just as easily.
You can make villains who don't occupy a single physical body are so aren't easily destroyed by punches and heat vision (Braniac), you can make villains whose powers are magic and because he's weak to magic and it's an even more convenient asspull than yellow sun pseudoscience (Black Adam, Mr. Mxyzptlk), you can have him fight other aliens, demigods, or other Kryptonians who can have crazeh powers just like him because they're not human either (Bizarro, Darkseid, Zod). It doesn't all have to be Lex Luthor coming up with a scheme involving kryptonite.
Saying you can't have good stories involving Superman because he's too powerful is like saying Greek Mythology is boring because Zeus is OP. You just need to give him antagonists on his own level and be creative.
I'm not a Superman expert by any means (I had to use google to remember some of his villain's names). But regarding your question, Superman seems to fight a lot of super powered nondescript aliens. Basically just tanks that can take a ton of abuse from Superman and keep fighting back. They're never interesting or cool.
I think that's why Lex Luthor is so appreciated and beloved. Just a regular human using his intellect to take down Superman. Lex created Nuclear Man.
>out of all of superman's rogues gallery they create a lame steel donut who can be defeated by shade
>lame
disagree. nuclear man is based. They should cast Chris Hemsworth as him in a new movie where he rapes people.
>Why do people pretend this film doesn'tn't happened?
hilarious movie
Is Superman going to return to take back his stolen uniform from that Starbucks soiboy?
I was 9 years old when this movie came out and if you'd asked me at the time I would have said it was good. I bought the official comic adaptation and everything. You gotta understand that at the time if you were a comic-reading kid (which most of us were since no internet yet) there was nothing else. This was literally the only high-profile comic property anybody was doing anything with. The Spider-Man, Hulk and Batman tv series had all been canceled by then and for as much as they skimped on the budget for Superman IV it still mogged the shit out of late 70's tv shows.
And also keep in mind that even though there was plenty of kino out there in 1987 if you were 9 you could only see what your parents took you to. I would have fricking loved to go to see Predator, Robocop, The Lost Boys, etc. but that was never going to happen (my cool friends showed me them later on VHS).
For a kid in '87, Superman IV and MOTU were it, and they were a big deal. I think the reason they got so lazy about it in the first place is because they figured they were shooting fish in a barrel. And to some extent they were. Superman IV actually made more than the Princess Bride despite everybody hating the one and loving the other. But it wasn't until Batman came out a few years later that they realized how much money was really being left on the table, especially when it came to merch. Thank you for reading my memoirs
I was 8 and i agree. I loved the movie mostly because Superman was punching another Superman. Mostly why i didn't like 3.
Kids are easy to please. But i gotta say, i thought MOTU was bad even back then, because nothing happens. No fights, only boring dialog and boring scenes until the last 5 minutes. Now, when Batman came out in 89...that was the shit right there.
>MOTU was bad even back then, because nothing happens
Yeah even kid me was sort of wondering "why are they in a high school gym instead of Eternia? Where's Battlecat? Why is there this hideous goblin midget instead of Orko?" and then when I got older I realized because money. Kind of a shame because it was halfway to being good. Lundgren was a good choice, Langella put real effort into it and Meg Foster was a smokeshow I wasn't ready to appreciate yet. The degree of difficulty was too high though. They needed a George Lucas autistic genius type to really make it work and those guys don't grow on trees.
>Where's Battlecat?
This was a big one for me.
>Why is there this hideous goblin midget instead of Orko?
I still ask myself this
The Hulk and Batman TV shows are miles better than Superman IV
Well yeah now after the fact you can see that the former have soul and the latter is a cynical cash-in but in 1987, Superman IV was new and shiny and the tv shows had been canceled years ago so they weren't on consistently and even when they were it was just reruns.
It does sound like we were getting the short end of the stick but anybody who grew up in the analog world can tell you it was more comfy than it seems like it would be looking back on it. The unique vibes just can't be recreated. Arcades, the NES era, saturday morning cartoons, supermarkets selling comics off the rack, home video and handheld gaming feeling like unfathomable luxuries instead of the routine shit it is today, a feeling of political and cultural solidarity we haven't had since....IMO it was one of the best times to be a kid in America. I could never go back because I would miss the internet and cell phones and flatscreen tvs and so on but at the time we were all pretty fricking happy because you can't miss what you haven't had yet.
> I would have fricking loved to go to see Predator, Robocop,
No, you dont. I saw Terminator when I was like 8 and I had nightmares of something chasing me and not being able to escape until adulthood
You poor soul
Yeah, and? Nobody said they weren't you plebbitor
damn u guys are old
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The scene where Clark (as Clark) is happily reading that kid's letter and then he gets to the part about nuclear weapons and goes all pensive and serious. Actually a very kino moment.
I was born in the '90s. When I was a kid, the local channels would only air the first two. I saw DVDs of the third and fouth in stores but only found out about Supergirl when I cared to look things up online.
for me it's the one with richard pryor as moronic brainiac who designs skynet to take over the world's coffee supply
That movie was so shit. Superman lets that Black person off despite him being the actual villian of the movie. Lana was hot though.
>lana
actress gets buck naked in cat people
interesting
Nuclear Man is an awesome villain
there was another nuclear man in superman iv?! the guy we all know was the second one? well that's all the learning for the day i can handle ty.
3 was the peak
3 has the hottest woman of all of them, otherwise it's the worst one.
he totally pump and dumped this girl. hilarious
Evil Superman was too chad to live, imagine how much human Pusy he'd have wrecked
motu is awesome start to finish i get drunk and annoy my friends by doing skeletor's i am a god monologue i think they know it by heart now too
Great monologue. Doesn't it go something like,
>"I can feel it! All the power in the universe coursing through my veins. I am no longer a man... I am a GOD! Now kneel!!!" (zaps Ivan Drago with force lightning)
yeah XD
i wanted to be skeletor growing up. the world isn't fair ;-;
How do you even get into comics? I looked at the DC wiki and there's a million timelines like Earth-12 and Earth-43 and some of them even have the same number like Earth-3, Earth 3 and Earth Three.
just don't bother
I just collect them for their cool artwork. Once in a blue moon I will buy two copies of something more recent as the 70s to read, some 80s stuff too, but getting into the stories themselves? That's for babies.
The way i did it was i just picked a Batman comic at the kiosk back in the day. But you know, back then you could do that and get a self-contained story in one, sometimes two issues. It was a better time.
The tortured continuity is mostly just a thing with the characters that have been around forever. There's a lot of self-contained stuff with one iteration.
Hellboy is a bunch of miniseries which can all mostly be read on their own and at least in the beginning it was all Mike Mignolna so the look and tone are consistent. The original Sandman series is 75 issues and is all one long story with the same writer and an actual ending.. Blade of the Immortal has the same Writer / Artist the entire time and has an actual ending. Watchmen is only a 12-issue series if you ignore all the spin-offs. Cerebus is 300 issues with the same guy writing and drawing all of them (he went insane by the end, but still, at least he didn't introduce a multiverse).