Why do people think CN didn't die in 2004? I FRICKING HATED THIS YEAR!
I was so pissed off at how CN treated Dexter and PPG starting from this year! The fact that they were airing them at worse timeslots during then and then eventually taking them off around early 2006 pissed me off! They were the biggest original series CN had and they treated them like shit starting from here
homie I was 3 in 2004
Based fellow millennial who knows the score.
Kys
>t. '96 le wrong generation zoomer
91, actually, kid and I’ll always be your superior.
frick off boomer
This was the year they fully became a network aimed towards kids. They were always aimed towards kids, but were also an animation network. However in 2003, they started becoming more of a kids network and in 2004, this took full effect
>Why do people think CN didn't die in 2004?
Most people browsing this board were barely alive in 2004. They actually enjoy modern cartoons, including the toxic sludge that airs on Cartoon Network now.
>including the toxic sludge that airs on Cartoon Network now.
Cartoon Network doesn't air anything anymore except TTG.
I haven't watched a second of Cartoon Network in over 15 years but I believe you.
Also why did they get rid of Looney Tunes this year? They didn't bring it back regularly until The Looney Tunes Show was coming out. If Tom & Jerry could stay, I don't get why Looney Tunes couldn't. Fricking moronic
Because Looney Tunes Back in Action bombed. By 2004, Cartoon Network was only airing stuff they thought would sell merch and LT merch wasn't selling anymore. It wasn't a channel for animation enthusiasts like it was in the 90s anymore, it was just a commercial for whatever was in the toy aisles at the time, or new shows for kids that they hoped would become toylines.
Then why did Ed, Edd n Eddy and Courage (the latter of which had ended and was only in reruns) stick around? PPG came out around the same time and it had much more merch and was considered CNs most profitable show, yet it was getting phased out
PPG got phased out as soon as that movie bombed.
>PPG came out around the same time and it had much more merch and was considered CNs most profitable show, yet it was getting phased out
Blame Chris Savino (the Loud House guy)
He was given the reins to Powerpuff Girls (and Dexter's Laboratory) when the original creators went off to new stuff like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends and Samurai Jack respectively, and he drove both of those shows into the ground with the same shitty mediocre comedy as the Loud House, except somehow much worse because at least the Loud House was based around that mediocre self-aware comedy from the start, whereas Savino destroyed preexisting characters and settings with it
It only takes a string of nasty episodes to completely kill off all momentum for a property.
There's no greater example in history than Game of Thrones. It used to be a cultural juggernaut bigger than just about any show since Dallas or Simpsons, but a single bad season completely erased it from the pop cultural landscape so totally that it barely gets discussed even in nerd circles anymore.
The ed cartoon was still producing new episodes but the only reason I can see for them keeping Courage around was due to its similar theme to Scooby-Doo, which they were pimping big-time around that period.
Warner was trying to sell several different DVD collections of Looney Tunes at the time and took the episodes off the air to help drive up demand for Looney Tunes content.
PPG got a complete series box set. Is this the reason why it stopped airing?
Also, why did CN mainly only air Justice League during Toonami and not give it many reruns starting in 2004? They aired Teen Titans a lot, even outside Toonami (It was even on Miguzi) and yet Justice League was getting the cold shoulder unless it was premiere episodes
>Why do people think CN didn't die in 2004?
Because several good shows were still in production at the time? Ed Edd n Eddy, Kids Next Door, Foster's Home debut this year, Teen Titans was going strong, Billy and Mandy too, and so on. Also the CN City branding and Friday Nights made it feel extremely unified and celebrated the whole network. It wasn't its strongest year, but it wasn't a bad year for the network compared to what was to come.
When you say "the year CN died," I'm thinking a year where NOTHING good happened even in the shows it was airing, like 2009 or 2017 onwards plus or minus Craig of the Creek and Infinity Train
I mean seriously there are plenty of other years you could say cn died in
>2006
That was a pretty nothing year for the network and shit like the yes era started that year
>2008
The nood era and the teletoon shows taking over the network combined with almost all their previous shows being gone
>2013
Adventure time and regular show reached their really low points and lost all relevancy also Steven universe and teen titans go first aired
And so on
Also, why was Cartoon Network favoring Totally Spies more than Powerpuff Girls? Totally Spies had more marathons, more timeslots, and such in 2004-2005 than PPG ever did during those years
Cartoon Network didn't even own Totally Spies, so I'm not sure why it aired in better timeslots than Powerpuff Girls during this time period
Also, I'm not saying Totally Spies was spammed since it wasn't. I'm just saying Totally Spies had better timeslots than Powerpuff Girls generally did
Cn held the movies failure against the show really hard at the time like they basically banished the show from most rerun time slots immediately after and promotion for it just was gone
If they had made a Dexter's Lab movie this wouldn't have happened
Considering Cartoon Network changed to much this year, I'm impressed DBZ was able to stay on for a while longer, even airing the first 64 episodes in uncut form with all the blood. I know DBZ had fantastic ratings in the late 90s and early 2000s and I'm guessing the ratings were still good enough during the mid 2000s, even if Naruto overtook it
>The year Foster's was made
Yep, CN died here
Was it that bad?
Not even close. It just wasn't as kino as our memories of it. But the first movie and the early first season were great, so I don't know what that Dr. Gaylord is talking about
It's not the worst CN show to date but it was the first bad one and ended the golden age
Really?
I remember it as the "last of the golden age". The way I remembered CN's history, 1996-2003 was the Golden Age, and FHFIF was the borderline where it wasn't as great as before but wasn't as bad as what was to come.
For me the end of the golden age was more My Gym Partner's a Monkey or Camp Lazlo
I guess it's more like it could either be the "first bad one" or the "last good one" depending on your criteria, because I never hated it at all like I did the shows that came later. I couldn't stomach My Gym Partner, Squirrel Boy, or Juniper Lee for more than a few episodes.
(Me)
However I think that FHFIF was split between its "good" half and its "bad" half too, so that might play into it because unlike shows that were still ongoing that were decaying (EEnE, KND, Billy and Mandy), Foster's had way more content to go when it started losing me.
>However I think that FHFIF was split between its "good" half and its "bad" half too
what do you mean?
I remember an anon posting something about how CN went through a massive change around the time Adult Swim premiered in 2001. I have to find it but basically all the warning signs for what the channel would end up becoming during the late 2000s dark ages were there. Shifting schedules, screwing random shows over, taking reruns out of rotation, etc. They were doing a lot of weird shit too but when the Aqua Teen Bomb Scare happened, it was over.
As someone who was a dumb little kid throughout the entire 2000s decade, like said the shows that were being greenlit, while entertaining, just weren't as good as what came before. I still get a rush of nostalgia thinking about CN City but the new shows just didn't have the "it" factor that made the OG Cartoon Cartoons what they were.
AS/CN should've known better than troll an area still recovering from 9/11
Honestly it was more Boston narcissists still couldn’t handle that New York got an attack and they didn’t that’s why they wouldn’t shut up about the 2013 marathon bombing when they finally got something
Found it
>Mike Lu and Og
>Sheep in the Big City
>Robot Jones
>good
Pretend that shitty taste part doesn't exist and read the rest
Okay but purging the old Hannah Barbara shows was also an improvement. It was 97% garbage and only served as a filler back when the network didn't have enough original or modern content.
Even as a kid I never wanted to see that crap, the only ancient cartoons that were of any quality were the Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry theatricals
I liked MGPAM, Lazlo, Junpier Lee and Foster's though.
Was there any reason why Cartoon Network felt more comfortable airing Teen Titans more than Justice League?
Justice League NEVER aired once during Miguzi, while Teen Titans was a staple of it. I mainly recall Justice League airing during Toonami (which was now only on saturday nights) when Cartoon Network rebranded itself in 2004 and it was called Justice League Unlimited by then
>Was there any reason why Cartoon Network felt more comfortable airing Teen Titans more than Justice League?
Teen Titans was aimed at a younger audience, who tended to buy more merchandise (this is not debatable, as the creators even outright said that they made Teen Titans specifically to have a superhero show meant for kids ever since Batman:TAS made them all more mature-focused, which is ironic considering the 2003 show's demographic nowadays). Justice League was aiming for the Batman:TAS audience, which was appreciated to have but not reliable enough for CN's standards.
That's pretty much why. If you ever want to know why CN cared about one show over another, look at ratings and merchandise sales.
Miguzi was for little kids. Justice League was for older audiences.
Was Baby Looney Tunes purposefully meant to only be shown during school hours? I saw it when I was home from school and it stayed there for years, but it was never on otherwise
It was meant for really little kids at home or in daycares, is what that means.
It was for pre-schoolers. Most preschool programming on cable is traditionally shown during lunch hours, while the older kids are at school.
>Was Baby Looney Tunes purposefully meant to only be shown during school hours?
No. It was put there out of spite because CN absolutely HATED the show but was ordered by WB to air it and never take it off.
because 2008 is the best year of CN my homie
It was a weird brightspot between the sludge of 2007 and 2009 but I’ll admit 2008 cn was oddly fun
Were Ed, Edd n Eddy's ratings really that strong that CN kept it around for so long? I don't recall the show having a lot of merchandise, atleast not to the extent of other shows
>Why do people think CN didn't die in 2004?
Black person have you never seen the countless rant videos that cn is dead when youtube was new?
I'm nostalgic for all the "RIP CARTOON NETWORK 1992 - 2009" videos that were all over the place back then. Crazy to think the people who made those vids are pushing 40 now.
you know what you're pushing? my buttons. now shoo, dweeb.
be quiet, bawd
fine, but only because i want to. >.>
kino
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What are the odds this guy browses Cinemaphile? Also
>claims 80s cartoons were better than cartoons airing at the time and that they should air 80s cartoons instead
>saying that now would have everyone shitting on you for defending "shitty toy commercials"
lmao
Yeah but most of those were just being blackpilled about out of jimmys head existing or cn real
hateful fart cartoon
Why did CN prefer Ed, Edd n Eddy over Powerpuff Girls if PPG sold more merch?
Because after the PPG movie bombed, Cartoon Network deemed the IP a complete failure. In fact, the entire 'Cartoon Cartoons' branding was retired after that. From conception, the whole 'World Premiere Toons'/'What a Cartoon'/'Cartoon Cartoons' thing was intended to create original IP that Cartoon Network can market towards kids and sell toys/merch, just like Nickelodeon had done with their 'NickToons'. When the Powerpuff Girls movie failed, they scrapped everything and went back to square one. It was thought that the target demographic for Cartoon Cartoons shows skewed too old in order to achieve the kind of success that Nick did with the NickToons, and that older demographics weren't in the coveted toy-buying age range.
The whole 'Cartoon Cartoons' label was tainted and so they got rid of it, most of the shows, and from then on every single new cartoon they made was very carefully made to appeal to and ONLY to young audiences. The whole channel was overhauled to basically be Nickelodeon 2.0 and that's why they got rid of everything that didn't appeal exclusively towards children.
>why they got rid of everything that didn't appeal exclusively to children
Then why did CN keep Courage around? I know the show had ended, but it still aired reruns regularly until sometime in the 2010s. I'm pretty sure Courage appealed to more than just kids. Same with Tom & Jerry
and I should mention that Courage staying around in reruns in good timeslots is more than one can say for Dexter's Lab or PPG
I'm pretty sure it ended around the same time the Powerpuff Girls movie failed, they only continued to air reruns.
Still, why did they continue to air reruns in good timeslots when PPG and Dexter didn't even really air reruns in good timeslots during the City era?
Is there any reason why Cartoon Network was willing to keep Courage reruns around for as long as they did? None of the other shows that ended around 2002-2004 had this luck
Didn't Dexter and PPG get moved to Boomerang by then?
But they still couldn't sell and Courage merch because he was pink.
I believe that was 2006 when they got moved and even before 2006, Dexter and PPG were on their way out of the network
No joke, I once saw a video where someone born in 2002 said he never watched Dexter and PPG really, but loved Ed, Edd n Eddy and Courage as a kid
It’s true I was born in 2003 and I saw tons of courage and Ed edd n eddy in the late 2000s just as much if not a bit more than I caught shows like chowder and flapjack and but only saw dexter episodes once in a blue moon and only caught a ppg episode once
Because "cowardly dog" is vaguely similar to Scooby-Doo, and they sold a lot of Scooby-Doo crap. It's dumb reasoning, but that's network executive think for you.
and why did CN keep Tom & Jerry reruns around? Tom and Jerry was known for not appealing exclusively to young kids. The shorts weren't even targeted specifically to kids when released in theaters
and how was CN able to keep Ed, Edd n Eddy around? I know it mainly appealed to kids, but I don't recall the show having much merch and a lot of parents didn't want their kids watching the show because of how mean-spirited it was. Kids would watch it when their parents weren't around
They sold a lot of Tom and Jerry stuff. They were still popular with kids in the 00s.
and Ed, Edd n Eddy? That show I don't recall having that much merch and while yes, it appealed mostly just to kids, you also have to keep in mind that parents wanted their kids to not watch it because they felt it was promoting bad behavior (Atleast with Barney, while they were annoyed with it, they allowed their little ones to watch it). Kids had to sneak The Eds in and I doubt parents were willing to buy their kids merch of it where as with Barney, they were atleast willing to
>The whole channel was overhauled to basically be Nickelodeon 2.0 and that's why they got rid of everything that didn't appeal exclusively towards children.
Don't forget the absolute seething they had over being 3rd place to Nick and Disney Channel. Maxwell Atoms said they fired everyone just so they could have a chance to compete with their live action shows.
So why did CN not make a ton of toys for Ed, Edd n Eddy or Billy & Mandy? Clearly they were the two Cartoon Cartoons that appealed exclusively to young kids, yet they didn't really have much merch compared to SpongeBob or Jimmy Neutron
Because they're moronic
I swear outside of shit like Ben 10 CN shows never got merch period. The stuff that does exist goes on ebay for like hundreds of dollars.
PPG got a ton of merch back in 1999-2002
Nickelodeon was a lot more successful at creating IP that appealed to kids. Their shows were light, colorful, and cheerful. They kept shows like Eds and B&M around because they focused on kid characters. But they were too "mean-spirited" and that sort of thing still skews older. They did have toys and merch of those shows, but it didn't sell compared to Spongebob and other Nick shows. Later Cartoon Network shows would be lighter and fluffier and less dark. To this day CN is still trying to strike gold there. And they're still looking for their own cash cow like Spongebob. They'll never find it.
The fact is, Nickelodeon had a massive head-start on Cartoon Network in the kiddy tv game, they had been around since the '70s and had already found massive success by the 80s. They, and Disney (for girls) had the kid's tv market covered. Cartoon Network was able to carve out its own niche when it started in the 90s, but the kid market was much, much more lucrative than appealing to animation nerds, nostalgic boomers, and teens. So as time went on, they tried to bite into Disney and Nick's apple. But they couldn't do it because Disney and Nick already had a stronghold on that market. They were too late to the game and they should have stayed in their lane and be satisfied with their niche. But you know, corporate greed.
>Their shows were light, colorful, and cheerful.
ahhh yes, like Ren and Stimpy
and Rocko's Modern Life and Invader ZIM and CatDog
Ren & Stimpy was the show that Cartoon Network was looking at when trying to replicate Nick's success. But while that show as the most successful thing Nickelodeon had done (to that point), that show burned out quickly since they had a complete creative changeover. Nick never really liked that show in the first place, they were actually uneasy with its success. The Nick show that Nickelodeon really wanted to be successful was Rugrats. And eventually they did find huge success with that show through years of pushing it and marketing it. Sometimes patience pays off.
What did Nick think of Doug? I know it only had 52 episodes, but it reran on the network regularly longer on the main network than Ren and Stimpy, Rocko, and Real Monsters, so I have to assume Nick liked Doug to some extent
I only ask about Doug btw because it came out the same day as Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy and aired with them
They liked Doug a lot, but they saw more marketing potential in Rugrats. I know the head executive at Nick personally loved Rugrats and was really championing it. Doug definitely fit in with the general kid-friendly philosophy that Nick aimed for but it ran its course after a few seasons. It was popular enough that Disney picked it up and tried to make it their thing (and they did find success with it as well, with the Doug feature film making a nice profit on a modest budget).
Although up until the late 90s, Nickelodeon avoided "toy commercial shows" because they were still trying to sell the channel to parents considering buying cable. Which is why it never got syndications of Transformers or Ghostbusters or anything else that was a hit on broadcast network Saturday morning blocks
That was until Double Dare and Nicktoons took off, and then Nick sold stuff that represented the overall network but not so much any individual show. (Like slime and gak products).
The addition of TMNT to their lineup was kind of the first time that they allowed someone else's IP to sell toys on their network. As popular as Rugrats were I don't recall seeing any toys based around it, or even any t-shirts
They do make nostalgia-themed merchandise of Rugrats for adults, but I don't think they do much with kids anymore. I believe they tried doing a reboot a while back but I don't think it did anything for them.
I'm pretty sure networks are willing to air shows as long as they get good ratings with children. SpongeBob appealed to literally every age group from preschoolers to old people (It was reported even that SpongeBob had a notable adult audience), but Nick has kept it around since 1999 because with it appealing to every age group, that also means it does very well with the shows target audience
This is exactly right. Spongebob did very well with children and sold a ton of merchandise. It's been around for so long at this point that they can sell stuff to adults who grew up with it as well. Also, Nickelodeon is nowhere near as reactionary as Cartoon Network/Warner is. They're a lot smarter.
>Nickelodeon is nowhere near as reactionary as Cartoon Network/Warner is. They're a lot smarter.
You can't be serious.
How old were you in 2004?
>Why do people think CN didn't die in 2004
Because I watched cartoon network post 2004 and I liked it
How were kids able to get away with watching Ed, Edd n Eddy anyways? From what I heard, a lot of parents didn't want their kids watching the show, yet their kids ended up watching it anyways
My only guess is that the kids who weren't allowed to watch it would watch it when their parents weren't around
Also, Cartoon network is very, VERY aware of how much people on the internet hate them. They're more than aware of the things people say about them. They don't care. The people who worked at the channel back in the 90s and early 00s all no longer work there. And most of them agree with you, they hate it too! Because here's the truth: the higher ups don't WANT you to watch their channel. If you're old enough to be on the internet complaining about them, then you're too old to fit into the very specific demographic they want. Their advertisers want young children watching, and CN bows to their whim. CN is a kid's channel and even if a cartoon gets good ratings, they don't look at the ratings, they look at WHO is doing the watching. It has been this way for over 20 years now. And CN isn't the only cartoon-focused channel that does this. It's been this way in the industry for decades.
CN was slowly starting to come back around the early 2010s, and then died again in 2013 with the release TTG and Steven troonyverse
Yeah 2010 and 2011 were both seen as huge years for the network then come late 2012 and especially throughout 2013 and that good will vanished and the 08/09 “cn is dead videos returned
If Cartoon Network wanted to steer away from old shows (with some exceptions like Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo, Ed, Edd n Eddy, and Courage), then how come in 2007, they decided to pay money to acquire broadcasting rights to Goosebumps, a show that hasn't had new episodes since 1998?
Wasn't Cartoon Network ALWAYS a channel exclusively for young kids in target audience (excluding Toonami and Adult Swim)?
Yes. We pretend it wasn't just for kids but it always was.
2004 was when the cartoon network turned itself into just a kiddie channel.
Their philosophy of being a channel for all ages dropped internally by 2003, examples like discontinuing their enthusiast shows such as The Popeye Show and Toonheads by late '03 and halting reruns by march of '04, Adult Swim expanding from an 3 hour block to 6 hours effectively ending 11 years of the 24 hour Cartoon Network, and most of the veteran CN execs were moved to doing AS operations.
That's when Mike Lazzo went from running both CN and Adult Swim's scheduling to just running Adult Swim full-time. After he left daytime CN, classic animation programs he fought to keep (i.e. Toonheads) were put of their misery.
You needed to grow up some time or another.
If that's true then why am I here?
How do you think it could've been saved?
I know this was 2003, but I still don't get why the people at Cartoon Network thought it was a good move to take away Yu Yu Hakusho from Adult Swim and put it on Toonami. That show was too violent even for Toonami and was arguably a scarier show than Courage ever was
Not just that, but Yu Yu Hakusho couldn't even finish on Toonami, so it was practically pointless to pull Yu Yu Hakusho from Adult Swim
The thing about YYH was, Cartoon Network was looking for another DBZ-level mass-hit. That's the only reason why Justice League and Samurai Jack were greenlit. They knew DBZ had an expiration date, and they needed something to replace that success. YYH did well, but it simply wasn't the DBZ-level hit that they were hoping for. In fact, nothing ever was.
Not even Naruto was a DBZ level hit? I remember that being really popular and CN was even willing to air it on weekdays for a time right before Adult Swim (If I recall, they sometimes used the pre-Adult Swim slot for shows that aimed for an older audience)
Not quite DBZ level, no. But it was probably the 2nd most successful thing they played on their Toonami block. They should have been happy with that, but the thing to understand is that executives aren't interested in 'close', they want 'growth', so anything that wasn't considered the same level of success as DBZ wasn't good enough. That's why they ultimately got rid of the Toonami block altogether because none of the DBZ-type shows were matching those ratings. And none of the original action shows they commissioned even came close. DBZ was 'the' show that propelled Cartoon Network into being included in almost every basic cable package in the country in 1999. But in a way, they were a victim of their own success because no matter how hard they tried they could never match that success. It was lightning in a bottle.
Didn't Toonami air Eva once? Who thought THAT was a good idea?
Toonami aired Eva, but ONLY as part of Giant Robot Week. They never intended to actually air it as part of their regular lineup. Only two episodes ever aired as part of Toonami
It makes even less sense when you realize that none of the other anime were ever pulled from Adult Swim and brought to Toonami back when Toonami wasn't part of Adult Swim. Inuyasha wasn't moved over, Cowboy Bebop wasn't moved over, and neither was Trigun
and people were indeed outraged back then about Yu Yu Hakusho being pulled from Adult Swim and moved to Toonami. They knew that it wasn't going to work out great on Toonami
and they're right. Yu Yu Hakusho is a very dark, bloody show with a lot of swearing, dark and scary imagery (darker and scarier than Courage), and this tone that fits so much better on Adult Swim
YYH was only slightly edgier than DBZ and it was feasible enough to edit out the swearing and booze references. Because DBZ itself was edited for blood and nudity.
There was no way they could censor all the gunfights of Bebop or Trigun. Inuyasha's combat was based around stabbings instead of punching/firing lasers, plus it was more targeted towards girls.
YYH got moved because AS didn't need it, but Toonami did
>plus it was more targeted towards girls
I think Cartoon Network was fine with airing one or two girl targeted programs (and I don't specifically mean stuff with female protagonists). They aired Totally Spies which was aimed towards 6-11 girls around this time
CN died when 2005 ended. 2006 on just wasn't as good.
It's telling how much CN cares about the post 2004 era by how those shows never got reran after 2010s and they barely mention them during their anniversaries. It's either the classics or the new stuff.
Actually, I remember CN airing Chowder and Flapjack during their anniversary last year
Sorry anon, I meant the shows from 2005-2007, before Flapjack.
Chowder is from 2007, I think you meant 2005-2006
You're right, I'm moronic. Basically I meant Camp Lazlo, Squirrel Boy, My Gym Partner's a Monkey, The Life and Times of Juniper Lee, Class of 3000, and so on. They came and went without a trace and never got re-runs.
Lazlo and Gym Monkey were lucky enough to get reruns until Cartoon Planet became their final resting place
Cartoon Network has been one giant pile of failure since 2004, only find small smatterings of success. Though in general, kid-focused cable channels have been losing insane amounts of ratings for the past decade. Most believe it's because kid's attentions are focused elsewhere. Personally, I think it's because these channels don't put in enough effort anymore to attract those attentions. But that's just me.
I think it's because nobody watches cable TV anymore, not that CN has anything worth watching. Why would you? With streaming/piracy/youtube kids can watch whatever they want whenever they want on their iPads.
I think Cartoon Network should put all of their shows for free on YouTube and just monetize them instead of locking them behind streaming services and amazon prime. It's pretty ridiculous that they still copyright strike old Hanna-Barbera shows off the platform to this day. They have the Boomerang app that has a few breadcrumbs of classic cartoon content, but I can't imagine that many people subscribe to it, and certainly not children.
I'm surprised Cartoon Network never tried airing Sonic X. It did good enough on 4Kids that after it ended in 2006, it reran until 4Kids died and then continued reruns on the Vortexx (Which replaced 4Kids) until that block died
Sonic does well with kids, Sonic sells a lot of merch, it probably could have aired on Miguzi honestly
Did Cartoon Network ever try airing a show aimed towards girls (not something with female protagonists that just happens to be gender neutral aimed like PPG but aimed towards girls) after they got rid of Sailor Moon?
cardcaptors, hamtaro
Girls tend to be more interested in watching live-action shows or sitcoms with young actors.
Part of me wonders if Cartoon Network would have tried airing Mew Mew Power reruns if 4Kids actually could secure a toy licensor for the show (The reason why the dub got cancelled, since the show did pretty well ratings wise on 4Kids), but then I remember that Sonic X did well on 4Kids and never came to CN and Bratz did well on 4Kids, but never came to CN either
Come to think of it, even the 4Kids stuff CN aired reruns of never aired all their episodes on it. I think CN only aired the first season of Winx Club and the first few TMNT seasons. I think One Piece was the show on 4Kids that stuck around the longest (Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh were 4Kids dubs yes, but they were on Kids WB originally)
I'm not even sure why CN only aired the first season of Winx and never aired seasons 2 and 3. The show was 4Kids' most successful show for a time (Yeah, it didn't have Nick or CN level ratings since 4Kids wasn't as big as them, but the ratings were still good), had a lot of merch, and was actually a cartoon aimed specifically towards girls, which doesn't happen a lot on TV in america
I noticed nobody has mentioned Krypto the Superdog in this thread
Why did Krypto do better with preschoolers than older kids? There was a time when CN tried airing it during Miguzi for older audiences in addition to airing during school hours, but the show ended up doing better with really little kids so for the rest of the shows run including reruns, it stayed in the school hours
CN City was pure SOUL
I don't know why, but Flapjack really reminded me of the Cartoon Cartoons. I know that aired in 2008, but that show reminded me of the golden age of CN
I have a feeling that TMNT 2003 and Winx didn't do as well as CN had hoped (even though both did well for 4Kids, with Winx actually performing better than TMNT for a while since it appealed more towards girls), which is why CN didn't bother acquiring cable rerun rights for Sonic X
It didn't gas, break, or dip.
Look at the chart. clearly [adult swim] is getting shafted by this pie, that's why this pie is a Fake!
Here's the REAL pie. See the difference? That's how we beat 'STARWARS'.
>[adult swim jr]
that's what they're calling CN now?
this bump was made in late 2004
weird how this thread isn't being bumped anymore