If you were to ignore the fact the CN confirmed that his human race is black and also that his VA is black, using only what's in the show:
What does Darwin do that makes people think that he might be black? Nothing, that's what.
There is not have a single moment anywhere in the show that even HINTS at him potentially being black. (unless being cute, dumb and screaming like a fricking dying dolphin is a trait of blacks.)
>If you ignore the reasons he's seen as black, then he's not black
Huh?
>using only what's in the show
If you can't do it, frick off
I am actually not aware if people saw him as black before people knew about the meta information such as VAs being black. I did not participate in fandom or online discussion during the earlier seasons. Did they?
Also, as always, it doesn't actually matter. He's cute as a fish and he's cute as a black boy too. Also he does kinda talk like a black boy in the show, but that's harder to prove since zoomer speak takes from ebonics a lot. As a Black person I can tell though
The voice actor in the show is black. Darwin talks with the voice of a black child, when Darwin talks, it’s a black person talking. He also has a different skin color and race than the rest of the family. What’s the problem
People thought of him as black before that
He's the Watterson's house Black.
Cinemaphile is so divided in this specific topic that we won't have a definitive conclusion if Darwin is black or not just let him be a fish and nothing else
He's a designated family pet (aka slave)
They never treat him like a pet/slave tho they treat him as an equal to the family
I wish they treated him like a pet just a little bit and he liked it a little bit too
There was an ep that does that called the roots
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Yeah he didn't like it though.
>"YOU GUYS" like that right?
>What do you mean "YOU GUYS?"
Holy kek I completely forgot about that
I just hope Darwin personality or character is defined in the upcoming movie and s7 considering he was incosistent he was either smart or dum in a ep
I think he has a pretty established personality. He's optimistic, not super smart but persevering enough to get by, humble, a moral guardian of sorts, usually chill and passive until he snaps, fears abandonment, yandere tendencies, and cute.
he's custom-built to be an affectionate brother and sweet friend, simple as
True the only thing I want him to develop is his relationship with Carrie since its underdeveloped as hell s7 should fix that
We NEED a double date between those two and Penny and Gumball. I want Penny and Carrie to be friends too. I just want them all to hang out and be wholesome.
Yes I want an ep set in the beach where the only four of them are there and do crazy shenanigns pic related
im not gonna make it til the movie bro. What if we have to wait until 2025 or 6? How am I going to sit here with no one else to be autistic about with? I'm going to shrivel away I need it now
All we have in recent news about the movie is this eidr in late Jan so take this information if you will, note it could be edited by the producers at any time
https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240%2F74EA-8714-FF4E-0936-35B7-9
That doesn't mean it'll be any time soon. I want people talking about it again cus I want to go turbo autistic with my ships.
Same want more people talking about this show and that includes ships, au's, and nsfw pretty much fanart I know Teri threads exists and that has become the general hub for Tawog discussion but I just want more threads that has nothing to do with Teri
I like Teri too but I know what you mean. I like a lot of characters and I want to be horny and wholesome about all of them not just the same few pictures over and over again. It's hard to want to draw and write them when I'm all by myself and no one has the same brand of mental illness as me
I only go there mostly for the general Gumball discussion and the base shotachad artist (pic related) since Teri threads lasts awhile but yeah I wish people would draw more characters in Tawog other than Teri, Gumball, and Nicole
I would do so many horrible things to that Darwin
I would do what Gumball is doing to Darwin here
He deserves bite marks all over his body
and every bite mark gets licked after too, of course
After that they cuddle together and sleep together too
do you think they spoon or sleep chest to chest
Sleep chest to chest imo they have probably the closet thing to an "incest" relationship in a kids cartoon
Darwin sleeps in a fish bowl you fricking idiots
Don't mind me, I'm just thinking with my dick.
There were kind slave masters out there but it didn't change the status
HE IS THE FRICKING BROTHER
HE GOES TO SCHOOOL WITH GUMBALL
That's so nice of him to allow his slavepet an education
His VA has always been black and has always spoken in a noticably black way
Ebonics?
Not in terms of vocabulary but in terms of vocal pronunciation and inflection.
Could you really not tell the actor was black from the voice?
Not me, I just thought it's some squeaky cutesy accent
He says "axe" instead of ask, which I've only ever seen black kids do
I thought that was part of the squeak
>Voice actor
>Actor
Do you not see the problem here?
>he's a pet: serves the family and can be purchased
>he's moronic
>he plays second fiddle to Gumball
>his legs are a genetic defect
>fish are less evolved compared to land animals
He has the qualities of a black kid, minus the violence
>pet
The turtle was a pet. Darwin is an adopted brother and has been since he met Gumball.
>moronic
Most of that family is moronic. That’s just Richard’s idiocy rubbing off on him, literally.
>second fiddle
Yeah no duh, the show is called The Amazing World of GUMBALL. Despite that though he’s effectively the second main character. Everyone plays second fiddle to him.
>legs
I don’t even understand which stereotype this is trying to point to, but his legs didn’t grow due to wonky genes they grew because of love. It’s why he can breathe on land too.
>less evolved
Unless you’re trying to say that fish are black and land animals are white, this just doesn’t have any relevancy since majority of the cast aren’t even animals, and the ones that are vary between moronic and barely functional.
>That’s just Richard’s idiocy rubbing off on him, literally.
Funny enough Richard became less dum in the latter seasons of Gumball
>and the ones that are vary between moronic and sarcasticly smart
Fify
I could almost agree with you but look at his fricking shoes
>There is not have a single moment anywhere in the show that even HINTS at him potentially being black.
how would they even do that? He's a goldfish.
I don't know
Clearly because he is a deformed fish monster bought at the store and has to deal with a little dumb butthole while being nice to him during his entitled antics, calling him bro
I think it's moronic that CN is featuring non-human characters to celebrate Groid Awareness Month. They've been posting Darwin, Wilt, and Garnet. They have actual black characters that they haven't used once.
Genuinely why does Cinemaphile care so much about this that I need to see this thread every other week
It's literally just one anon obsessed with this. I think he's some shotagay that's only attracted to little white boys but he's also a Darwingay so he's butthurt that most people draw human Darwin as black
adopted son dynamic combined with black VA. Pretty simple
Why do you care? Why do you keep posting this? Why isn’t the VA being black, plus the character being adopted with a different skin color and race, at least enough for you to say ‘frick it, could be whatever; let people think what they want’
>‘frick it, could be whatever; let people think what they want’
Mushy-brained attitude that treats the world we live in like a mirage. Can be expected you have intricate lgbtq connections
So apparently you're revoking the right for people to play a character that differs from them. Typical queer behavior
VAs can be different than their characters, but there’s enough about Darwin that you can easily say he’s black. He can be whatever you want him to be but there’s a strong argument he’s black so don’t be surprised when people say he is
he's a fish. he has no race.
Whenever you post in Tawog threads you always make a fool out of yourself go to other threads that makes you less of a fool
>Can be expected you have intricate lgbtq connections
The thread has literally nothing to do with LGBTQ until you brought it up.
>He actually agrees with ME even though he said the exact opposite! He's lying about his own show that he created!
Are we done making this thread over and over?
Buddy I don't give a shit what you say, you're not going to control my responses with your disingenuous rhetoric, queer
Keep it up and I'll publish another handbook of your queer tactics
>LGBTQ
I'm illustrating how to identify you people being subversive
>>He actually agrees with ME even though he said the exact opposite!
Congrats queer you got a lot of people to publicly agree with you by threatening to end their careers and ruin their reputations if they contest anything you say
And no you're not going to mold minds in the direction you want, deciding mental developments for thousands of people, fueling your sodomy sessions too
>Pedophile rhetoric
You must be confused, this website is 18 years or older
>schizo ramblings
You want me to look up a bunch of Gumball crew and reshape the discourse you're desperate to participate in
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Why would you emailing Gumball’s creators that people agree with their own statement that Darwin is black, change the discourse about it or make them change their show/statement? If it made a difference I imagine it would be they just go out of their way to say Darwin is black in an episode later, to put the matter to rest
>by threatening to end their careers and ruin their reputations
Nobody threatened this with Ben. He probably knew he'd get this discourse either way (you proving that point by making these "um actually he's white anyway" threads) so what would he have gained lying about it?
>Pedophile rhetoric
Jesse what in the hell are you talking about?
Zoomer you're not slick
And I'm speaking of the culture Ben participates in, his responses are similar to the responses of thousands of other creators, "oh yes fandom of course your popular headcanon that provides minority representation is real"
Meanwhile as this culture takes place it tears down proper art culture through things like acting as if you can't have characters of different races without someone of that race directly involved like through voice acting
A creator saying his own character with a black VA is indeed actually a black character, doesn’t mean other doesn’t mean every character is the race of their voice actor. Ben didn’t say that, he just said this one character of his was black, which is something writers can do intentionally
Why the frick can't Cinemaphile accept that Darwin is black despite the hints?
That was a fanfic made by the Cinemaphile user Sarah herself
Sarah would never blackwash
Why is that? besides I dont think she means anything by blackwashing Darwin for some political movemnt or some shit
If she made him white, is that whitewashing?
>black coded character
>bought as a pet for white coded character
lol
>black coded character
But what part of Darwin is so stereotypically black for you to say that he is "black coded".
inb4: No, I'm not saying he isn't black. I'm saying he is not a black stereotype, or as modern audiences like to dodge using that word: "coded".
See, your confusing comes from thinking "coding" is always about personality. Sometimes it's just about the voice or appearance. For example, Garnet from Steven Universe could be "black-coded" due to her afro and big lips.
Or for Grim, his obvious Jamaican accent.
In Darwin's case it's simply because his voice sounds like a black american kid.
That clear everything up for you?
I thought Darwin being the only fish in the family was an allegory for race
Creator literally confirmed Darwin was black the cope has to end. The one isn't the typical case of delusion like Piccolo
Stop crying, lil homie. This is an open and shut case, arguing about this still is completely moronic
Frick you and frick Ben, he only said that so you losers would shut up about it
>creator outright confirms that Darwin is indeed black
>"No frick Ben!!"
Why are you like this?
take a shit and call it sweet,
but kids won't like it as a treat
>kids won’t watch gumball if Darwin is black
Which is crazy because he’s confirmed black and the kids all watch it
/thread
Only /misc/tards still arguing after this one brought out.
I don't think Ben was genuine with his answer he just got annoyed by you twitter tourists pinging him at Twitter while he's enjoying life and earning millions out of his show he's isnt a woke onions homosexual like Pendelton or Rebecca he's a carefree guy who doesnt get into deep shit which cant be said for other cartoon animators
>I think [HEADCANON]
I should have put I'm sure dammit
>Are we done making this thread over and over?
No not in a million years expect more to come 😉
Are you this very said Twittergay that Ben responded too?
cuz if you are, your the one who's coping when you keep pinging him a unnecessary question he had to answer a reply you would like, othwrwise you would sperg out.
>all this Cinemaphilepe and seethe over the fact a cartoon fish is black
The right have always been the real snowflakes.
>when you keep pinging him a unnecessary question he had to answer a reply you would like
Because he wouldn't just ignore a twitter ping for a "silly" question just like hundreds of other cartoon and internet creators do?
Either way it's more of a concrete answer then this parasocial "Um actually Ben is lying [citation needed]" shit.
No I’ve never had a Twitter account. It’s just cope of you to say he meant the opposite of what he said, when he could have ended the argument saying what you wrongly assume he meant. The generic, ‘I don’t care’ answer would be ‘he’s whatever you want him to be’. If he didn’t mean Darwin to be black he would just say so, or say he’s whatever race you’d like
Cope lmao.
He's fish Urkel. Why does this discussion persist? This is like the "that's where I'm a Viking" discussion, where the only people trying to keep it going are coping ESLs that want to believe they're not wrong.
You are.
Everybody on this board has at least 1 neurotic agenda they post as often as they can, repeatedly looking for someone to agree and be angry with them, no matter the results of the previous thread.
>"that's where I'm a Viking"
You mean the one where morons think "viking" is slang for being good at something, despite that making no sense whatsoever?
He's got that BFC
They probably assume he's black for the same reason people assume Gumball is white. Only people don't scrutinize it when someone depicts human Gumball as white.
>his VA is black
That's why
Dumbass
>/pol/bait thread
darwin is as black of a name as tyrone
It's literally just this. If you name your goldfish Darwin or Tyrone or Jamal, congrats, you have a black goldfish.
Because of pic related
Tired cope. That was just everyone being forced to be idealized. That's why they all got those boring ass designs. None of the Wattersons would look like that.
>Everyone else sees Darwin as a pet
This is worse somehow
fricking cracks me up when anons leap to wild guesses like they’re actually talking to the guy in the screenshot he didn’t like, I don’t know why that’s the go-to for so many people when it’s always easier to just assume someone is a clueless stranger. Is it a thrill-seeking desire to unearth a conspiracy or make a Sherlock Holmes deduction, that does it? Because you shoot for the moon and always miss
Fandoms project the consciousness of creators, discussions amongst fans get back to creators directly or indirectly
Quit laughing
That’s fine but it doesn’t mean the person you’re talking to is the person in the screenshot or the creator themselves. I agree with you when you say someone is or probably is within someone’s sphere of influence, but Guy, you’ve been completely wrong before accusing me of being Vivzie herself or being on of her employees. It’s really not out of like the creator of Gumball wrote a black type character and told people he did, you don’t have to be Ben Bocquelet himself or even a fan of his to say ‘yeah makes sense to me, character seems black and the creator said he is’
It’s really not out of line* the creator of Gumball would…
I’m glad guy is here to email all our comments to the creators, so our posts become more important and we get to actually affect the show just by posting
this
all he's gonna do is make it more likely for the show itself to explicitly state "Darwin is black" and then get blocked.
Pedophilic reasoning dude
How many times are you going to get called out? And you're only so talkative because I've laid off on messaging the industry for days
I email random people until the Zoomers lose their motivation to harass and gaslight me
>Making a scene
Oh so queer you want me to fade into the background? I don't think filling the inboxes of dozens of industry people will get you what you desire, so maybe you should give up on this queer manipulation since I've broken it
And an actual response considers the point of view of the other person, just like I understand that you are a gross queer who wants to manipulate for the sake of your self-interest serving the industry
Thanks for letting me know that your brain got totaled by being exposed, I'll make sure to post screenshots of horror mascots to remind you Zoomers not to be like them
> Oh so queer you
I’m not queer man I just understand it’s possible to have a black animal character in a show about animals, and say that you did.
>want me to fade into the background? I don't think filling the inboxes of dozens of industry people will get you what you desire
Well that’s the thing, guy, your career and attention is not my responsibility. It sounds like you have all these fights and send all these emails because you’re AFRAID of falling into obscurity. You’re saying these emails keep you from obscurity, and you’re the one who sends them, so you obviously know you’re trying to avoid obscurity by spamming people’s emails.
I don’t work in the industry, have no intention to work in the industry, I’m not gay or anything, I just figure the character seems black and the creator said they were, works for me. Am I really supposed to deny it and say the creators are lying and I’m wrong for feeling like the character is black, just to deny other items when this is not the case? It seems to be the case here that Darwin is black
Unironically, check into the nearest mental hospital immediately.
Guy, were you sexually abused as a child?
> Just the nasty ones so they know that when they vent on the internet their fans consume the exhaust and run over to spray it at me
The point of the emails is to show that their fans are bullying you? What’s that supposed to do. I know you consider these creators your old friends, but have you ever seen them defend you or make a difference based on these emails?
> You are disregarding what I actually said
I was responding directly to the last paragraph of your post where you brought up how this harms casting across race
>which is a tactic for grooming minors I remember from being a minor
I’m not trying to molest you man, I don’t even know who you are except that you’re some dude on a message board who likes to make a scene
>Zoomer are you trying to act like one of these mascot horror characters to manipulate kids on the internet?
What in the goddamn frick are you talking about?
Guy has to make meaning when he reads other people’s post, and claim posters are industry employees or job seekers, because he is starved for contact with those people because they won’t talk to him anymore
>which is a tactic for grooming minors I remember from being a minor
In what way is having a black character in Gumball anything like "grooming minors?"
I'm trans btw I forgot to mention
Why does this namegay keep bringing up pedophilia and grooming? Is there something he’s trying to tell us?
I mean there was that time he was trying out hats and also that time Richard stole money.
did darwin turn into a pimp
Nah this is just what might happen if the Wattersons get rich.
Technically brown is just a darker orange
>Claims people will 'harass' the creators if they don't make the character black
>Proceeds to threaten to harass the creators via E-Mail for making a character black.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy
> so if I send around my character Wildstorm who says Black person people will be totally cool with that because they're acting on their personal perceptions and not ideology?
What’s that have to do with anything? Darwin isn’t racially offensive and he doesn’t shout slurs, he’s an inoffensive fun black-type character and the creator said he was black. What’s the issue
> I also know full well where Zoomers are coming from in life, especially since they purge their individuality to fit the industry mold. I know all their moves before they make them
Is that why you’re always wrongly accusing people of being these creators and employees? You’ve spent years now failing to understand everyone’s posts and getting into fights over it, coming up with increasingly delusional reasons everything revolves around you, while you lie to yourself you’re making a difference by spamming emails to people who probably have you blocked. Your attempt at confidence and self-chosen dogmatic beliefs is not an argument don’t make you correct when you say shit that isn’t true
Do the parents ever even talk to Darwin in this show
yes, what made you think they didn't?
Idk, I don’t remember too many scenes all that much
>I invented the term
Sure. And my dad works at Nintendo.
> Must be because I reminded you that being concerned for me threatens your career
I don’t have a career in animation, I’m not seeking one. I defend your right to independent art and I even respect the fact that your work being unpopular doesn’t mean it’s unworthy, I believe in your right to expression and actually totally agree there are industry sphere of influences that affect younger generations over even an implicit idea they need to agree with the industry in order to ‘belong’ to society.
How about that? I feel like I was going to say ‘but’ here and say where I think you’re making mistakes or are confused, but you know what I don’t think that’s necessary, so I think ill leave it at that. You are not completely crazy or anything, a lot of what you say is fair
Are you that gay IBP or whatever from inkbunny who buys the Gumball porn and make Darwin white?
SHIT
bc of the moronic and self center american attitude towards everything on top of the black VA and being adopted (but the "fans" are so moronic they purposely ignore the fact he was shown a dog)
>/pol/gay shits up thread that's already proved him wrong
Like you are any better anon
It makes no sense
Darwin can swim
Schizo thread.
This is technnically a Gumball thread and there is no Terigays on site I wonder why?
People have this weird fantasy that black people to can swim. Same reason they push for little mermaid being black.
People online would look at this and say "Yep, he's black!"
Who keeps bumping this thread?
Me 😉
any amount of emotional investment in this is too much
Because black kids like and relate to him, and they claim him as one of their own.
>but why do black kids relate to him
Because he's a high energy goofball that's voiced by a black kid. He's also adopted into his family, making him a "fish out of water" both literally and metaphorically.
Black kids in the suburbs often feel isolated because they look different or don't fit in with their white classmates. Those same black kids might see a bit of themselves in Darwin and enjoy watching his and his family's antics.
And I think that's pretty cool.
Because he sounds black, acts black, and has vaseline on his head.
>acts black
Since when? Darwin is not a violent person at times and when he becomes violent its usually when he's at his limit when dealing bs of Gumball or other shit.
and has vaseline on his head.
homie what?
>uses "homie"
>Doesn't even know about the vaseline
You greentexting and having a dissapointed pic doesn't help your argument anon
>being black = being violent as a default
Are you autistic? Serious question.
Not gonna answer that since your already black bud I want you to think how your race interacts with other races and even themselves the usual outcome will always end in a violent result this is why black people should be in the care of other races instead of their own because almost all of them lack social skills hence why Darwin doesnt act like a black person because he was raised by a white family
NTA, but you’re a pedophile so why should anyone have any type of agreement with you?
>NTA, but you’re a pedophile so why should anyone have any type of agreement with you?
Nobody said anything about pedophile until you brought up are you prehaps a pedo yourself you like touching kids anon? Disgusting frick
Frick off pedo
Kek this homie thinks he's talking to one anon thinking its the same gay what a pedo and a moron
>>act black
How do you act black?
By not acting white
white
How do you act white?
dunno, by acting like a wigger?
like a wigger?
How do you act like a wigger?
The hell is a wigger? Are Cinemaphiletards coming up new dialects of english again?
That word has been around for years.
After doing a quick google search its just a term of crackers wanting to become homies who knew there's a term for that lol
Donatello's questions came full circle
I think everyone needs to just accept that Darwin can be eithier black or any race its up to one's immagination this is a cartoon after all not a political debate irl
I think everyone needs to just accept that the creator of the show has explicitly confirmed Darwin is black and stop pretending it's open to interpretation.
Thanks anon its always nice to see a sane person in these type of threads here I'll do the same
What does Darwin see on him?
you mean "in"?
Yeah so what does he see in him?
he sees an opportunity to call dibs on some prime real estate
And his next lover ;^)
A lot, and I mean a LOT of black kids in the suburbs sound and act exactly like Darwin before they get the joy sucked out of them by either their peers (doesn't matter the race) or puberty.
t. Experienced this myself
His first name is Darwin. Not his last name, his first name.
>being cute, dumb and screaming like a fricking dying dolphin is a trait of blacks.
anon said being cute is a sign of being black
we did it
we defeated racism
Unrelated, but at what time period did animal/nonhuman characters stop being defaulted to as white?
He sounds black.
This is how Darwin would realistically look like lol libtards need to btfo
Who snatched the soul out of his eyes? Looks like he has single digit IQ
why would darwin need pants if he doesn't have a penis
He grows one during mating season now
Is Frylock black?
He's clearly a white lesbian trapped in a man's body as a box of fries