Which Hollywood exec created the idea that chess players are le smart? Read their wikipedia biographies and they're all the same. Started at a stupidly young age to grind out a boring ass game for decades by their neurotic parents.
Magnus Carlsen is no more impressive than the greatest bing bing wahoo super soi bros player.
>but le patterns!
There are patterns in call of duty too. Why is there this aura of sophistication afforded to these worthless people? They aren't great like Anakin Skywalker, Napoleon, Tony Montana, Misc pot...etc
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>They aren't great like Anakin Skywalker
>here's your conquering genius rivaling the likes of Napoleon bro
Just because I'm calling you out on being a fedora tipping autistic prequelgay doesn't mean I think chess players are great men. in any case Kasparov is better, magnus is an erababby
>in any case Kasparov is better
he's a washed up hack throwing a fit on twitter accusing everyone better than him of cheating
Nah, that's Kamsky(who is a fricking legend by the way).
There is literally nothing stopping Kasparov from competing with Magnus. That he doesnt is simply because he is worse.
I've never heard anyone compare any chess player to Napoleon. It seems like something that exists only in your mind.
Way to miss the point, you insipid idiot. Why are chess players praised as le high iq Machiavellian big brains?
They aren't. Again, this is something you made up and are now getting upset about.
They're praised for being intelligent (which they tend to be) and adept at chess. Meanwhile, you're spending Christmas on Cinemaphile, adding "le" to your inane ramblings as if that's an argument, and are clearly threatened by exaggerated depictions of chess players because you're a moronic, insecure sperg.
>They're praised for being intelligent
Why? How are they any more intelligent than super onions bros players?
Most of the top 10 world chess players actually took IQ tests and were in the genius range IQ. I'm not saying all of them actually did something with their IQ apart from Chess but still...
Being in the top of Chess is extremely difficult, the game is all based on skill/strategy. Smash Bros is relatively way easier than Chess.
>Smash Bros is relatively way easier than Chess.
Understatement of the century. It's a child's game.
this response goes hard. I like that we can just be real like this.
spergs gotta stop sperging (being bitter).
>>OP
Television is stupid. Women are less intelligent than men typically. Chess is a GAME, but a socially accepted one with prestige and pedigree, THATS why it gets treated with more respect than starcraft or whatever. Still a game though and in a lot of ways chess players are still admired/cringed at for the same things other game players are. ANybody who is great at something is probably gifted in some way mentally. I feel like the smash bros comparison is interesting in this regard. Or any other game, there is always a world champ somewhere even if nobody is keeping score
ever seen the intelligence bell curve memes? Based morons and misunderstood geniuses always end up at the same point. Only an absolute MIDWIT ignores the israeli problem.
Bobby Fischer is so fricking based
>Not including his quote about elephant trunks and penises.
>Neglecting the mention that Fischer himself was born as a israelite.
>goes hard
you responded to me with really gay and moronic images
your wojacks fail to convince me and now I'm even more antisemitic
>Heh know about that twitter meme about the bell curve? Stupid people are actually smart mkay!
Ludwig Van Carlsen is kino af.
No he isn't. He is ugly and wasted his time with a worthless and boring game. He is worse than the average twitch streamer wasting their life with call of duty. At least call of duty more accurately depicts battle thereby making it more interesting. Chess is just boring and people think boring things are le intellectual like how gays think eating risotto is classy
Midwitism. They like to imagine they are amateur experts in all fields and worship professional experts
>The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life
>Is also the sign of a mediocre lawyer.
Jelly chud
>Doesn't know the quote comes from Paul Morphy who was perhaps the greatest chess player to ever live.
>He stopped playing chess in his early 20s to pursue a career as a mediocre lawyer before dying in New Orleans in the mid 1880s.
>They aren't great like Anakin Skywalker
Why is your go to example a fictional character?
All the moves in Chess are highly symbolic. Look up some of them. If you're reasonably intelligent and analytical you'll realize you've seen these same concepts turn up in numerous plays and movies and political power plays.
The "sport" of competition chess is largely a freakshow and more of a distraction.
For a good intro movie go watch Fresh, staring Samuel L Jackson. The young kid uses specific Chess knowledge to take out a bunch of drug dealer pimp types in an act of revenge. Including an extremely brutal act of "pawn sacrifice".
If you can understand even a little of how Chess moves develop and work you'll start seeing them in politics and business etc.
This is why it's held up as this big thing. That and all the freemason stuff built into it (btw the director of Fresh is a guy literally called Boaz Yakim. ie: Boaz and Jachim).
>All the moves in Chess are highly symbolic. Look up some of them. If you're reasonably intelligent and analytical you'll realize you've seen these same concepts turn up in numerous plays and movies and political power plays.
Because movies made you create these assertions. Le big brain politician smugly smirking as the scene cuts to a knight or rook being moved to show how le smart they're being. Imagine if the same scene cut to call of duty.
Chess players are all insipid idiots and insist upon themselves. They are not intelligent at all and I don't know how anyone besides brainwashed hollywood golem could bestow them the title of "intelligent". They are no Napoleon or Kissinger
I'm a certified genius and member of Mensa. It has given me nothing in life but the seething of the unintelligent.
Because the first couple times that amateurs are playing chess there's a lot for them to learn and think about it. It's cognitively taxing to come up so many lines of play on the fly. If you're winning against strong players when you're new to the game you most definitely are extremely intelligent. You learn quicker than most and you're able to process a great deal of information without getting overwhelmed by it.
But ye, obviously none of that applies to masters at all. In their case they've just grinded so many thousands of games, and puzzles, or match reviews, etc, that they already know the good plays from the bad just from trying out already. They can shut off their brains entirely and win on autopilot. The same as nobody thinks about how to move their legs while walking. Hence why when then general IQ of grandmasters was studied they turned out to be exactly average at everything else.
Meanwhile North America's best zoomer chess player didn't know what a palm tree was, or how to read a map, and thought a hotel safe was microwave.
What I'm getting at is why be autistically good at one thing when you can be capable normie that's just pretty good at many things?
it's just a book a guy wrote for fun
Because they could get away with it without anyone calling them out on their bullshit. And with all lies, if you repeat it long enough most people take it as the truth. Pro players in games like chess, go, or even strategic esports like starcraft are hardly the smartest people in the world. They are just good at the game.
true. Why are normies like cattle brahs?
Bobby Fischer disproves your theory
>names the israelite; "a menace to the whole damn world"
>Soviet self-esteem btfo
>knows women are stupid
>lives as a recluse in the middle of nowhere
>but he le hates joos!
So do literal inbred turdskins
>Doesn't understand beautiful positions and tactics.
>Probably complains because he gets beat by 9 year olds.
>doesn't understand the beautiful tactics of bing bing wahoo
>probably complains because he gets beat by 9 years olds in super soi bros maker for nintendo switch
Imagine if their neurotic, midwit tiger parents forced them to do something of worth like engineering or art instead of playing a stupid game
Most childhood chess players go on to have careers as attorneys, engineers, and doctors. It's only very few that actually make competitive chess their career. There's not that much money in it.
>Most childhood chess players go on to have careers as attorneys, engineers, and doctors
No they don't. Unless you mean kids who joined a club for 2 weeks in middle school because their parents forced them to. Most successful people have never played chess in their lives or played one online match and found it to be a bore
You're confusing correlation with causation. They're childhood chess players because they have well to do, professional, socially mobile parents with above average intelligence that understand knowing chess is a status symbol that can help them out later in life. Then because they have well parents professional, socially mobile parents with above average intelligence they're also pushed into high paying, high status careers.
>Imagine if their neurotic, midwit tiger parents forced them to do something of worth
That's an assumption you're making. And says a lot about your own character and upbringing and view of the world. Do you believe that everyone's interests are dictated by the external only?
Chess masters all start out being more into chess than their peers. They see the beauty and satisfaction in it and push themselves to be the best, to solve the infinite puzzle, to get it right.
It seems pointless to you but that's part of the beauty. Doing something difficult because it is difficult, regardless of fruitive outcome.
You're living on a lower plane of existence if you don't understand this. It's fine but thank god not everyone is like you.
>Do you believe that everyone's interests are dictated by the external only?
Only those who curiously start that particular endeavor at the age of 5
>It seems pointless to you but that's part of the beauty. Doing something difficult because it is difficult, regardless of fruitive outcome.
Hitting your head against a wall over and over is also difficult. Doesn't make you a genius, just an idiot
Eat raw meat and fat to fix the nerves in your brain. Then you'll stop being a brainwashed idiot who picks up boring and worthless status symbols like chess just because the TV said so.
>Only those who curiously start that particular endeavor at the age of 5
Your world is very small. Chess is a game, it shows up in kids media, kids start out with checkers and might get into chess later. Sure their parents might show it to them, just as a way to bond with your kid, but it's hardly something like piano lessons. You still haven't digested my point that there are some people who even at 5 see a chessboard and the pieces and learn a little about the rules and their brain goes, click, I need to know more, I get this.
Maybe your brain has clicked on something inexplicably before in your life, maybe you've been touched by a muse, but i'm guessing not, and that explains why you don't get it.
Aside from that, chess is hard and it's more than just brute force algorithms that are drilled over time until you're good at it.
It is an art, it involves spontaneity and luck as much as it does strategy. Yes you learn lines but those lines are poetry. Chess composition is like architecture. It is difficult.
There are some who might bash their heads against the wall drilling it their whole lives and still suck at it. What drives them to keep going? And why shouldn't they marvel at those who just get it and see what others can't see?
Do you not believe in differences in iq, and the beauty of some of those differences? It is irritating to be mogged by a genius but also it's impressive and entertaining to watch a genius work, and should inspire people to find moments of genius in their own lives and strive for something.
>and luck
There is no luck in chess.
your autist opponent smelled mayonaise in the lunchroom before your match. He is distracted by mayonnaise due to his autism and plays a good move instead of a winning move. you win. Your brain is closed off and it's a weird thing to be proud of.
>Started at a stupidly young age
This is how you get notably, competitively. good at something, yes. Anyone telling you otherwise is sandbagging you, misinformed, or moronic.
True. Shogi players are actually superior. Also there is always a human element to strategy. Playing chess where there are books on every strategy is non applicable most necessary strategic events.
Fricking shogi gays are the worst.
Kings and Princes and generals all praised chess and played it regularly. Not so for Bing Bing Gotta Go Fast. Also nobody claims that Magnus or Kasparov or whoever are super IQ, least of all players themselves. More often than not they are, however it's neither a prerequisite to be a good chess player, nor does it stem from playing chess.
>Kings and Princes and generals all praised chess and played it regularly.
Because that's the only PvP game they had. If Kings and princes had counter strike or dota they'd rather play that
If it wasn't about intelligence, there would be more women in the top 100.
Women's chess is kind of a joke.
It's pretty embarrassing that the world's best female player doesn't know the B+N mate.
Cope. Furry fandoms are mostly male too that that mean furies select for geniuses? homosexual
Yeah they're just playing a children's game at the end of the day
>disproves everything this seething brainlet's saying about chess
Close, but not quite.
>asian
kek so tiger parents make their worthless child grind out a worthless game as a status symbol to brag to the other first generation immigrant diaspora. Pathetic
He's adopted.
>starting playing at 10
Yep so either it was his biological or adoptive parents who made him slave away at some boring game but the details are unimportant. He is an unimpressive looking, meek asian man who has no skills besides being decent at a game. Hardly a von Neumann
The man had a hard life and broke into the top 10 all on his own. Every post you make just screams midwit. It's grim.
Oh boo hoo. He was le adopted waaah must be so hard. No poverty stricken beggar who grew up on the streets starts chess as a child, anon. He was privileged
Learn something today anon.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/wesley-so-interview-chess-was-a-way-out
>I have no idea what I'm talking about and I can't even be assed to look it up
you couldn't possibly make it more obvious you're just a coping moron
don't worry, chess is a hard game
>wears reflective glasses during chess
what a fricking idiot
>He doesn't know.
The average basketball player is far more impressive than the greatest chess player. Competing even in a highschool level requires one to be above average genetically. You need to be taller than average, have better muscular than average, be more outgoing than average and involves quick thinking and off-the-cuff strategy. Far more cerebral than any chess manchild
So why do Bond villains explain their master plan while casually playing chess instead of shooting hoops?
Because most Bond villains aren't black
cope. chess is something pretty much any human can play even with great disabilities. the playing field isnt skewed by anything other than your own chess skill
Exactly my point. It requires no talent only selects for people who grinded out the game for many years. Those with actual talents will naturally gravitate towards something that requires above average individuals like sports or scientific research while mediocrities with a chip on their shoulder will pick chess
So what's your reason for sucking at chess. You're stupid or lazy?
Because I prefer meaningful endeavors worthy of my intelligence. I would much rather be the 21st century Napoleon than something as insipid as a chess gamer. Keep gooning to the botez prostitutes or whatever you do, pajeet
Why are pajeets so obsessed with worthless status symbols? Do they really think they can befriend us by acting like servile idiots and dressing like a character from the peaky blinders? kek
>I would much rather be the 21st century Napoleon
And yet here you are...
Jesus Christ.
someone can be born a manlet and betoo short to play most sports at a top level or otherwise have bad genes. theres really no limit on e-sports and chess even if theres an argument to be made about starting when your 12 could give you an advantage but thats solely based on having played so long you have a competitive edge based on tournament experience . its much more neutral level playingfield in my belief
Thanks for admitting chess players have bad genes. Kek finally you admit it's just clash of the subhumans in any chess tournament
>meme reaction pic and no original thought
typical of a chess player. There is little more cowardly than a chess player. The need to memorize every movement one makes in a field that defines their identity is a sign of inferiority.
Hikaru Nakamura took a test and he scored like 100
>Live in an age where your intellect can have civilization shifting effect
>Waste it on chess
Good memory and pattern recognition are useful in any intellectual endeavour, like math, physics, computer science, etc. Would they be as good as the best in those fields? No idea, but chess is still a waste of time.
That's because chess players aren't actually smart. Do you think speed runners are geniuses just because they remembered the minutia of a super mario 64 level?
KWAB. Chess is for idiots
I play bullet, that's exciting. I've been beaten by an 8 year old girl in a long game and beatne Magnus in bullet, I think, he plays on lichess with Dr Drunkenstein and variations thereof.
Having played most my adult life, as an addiction I would say it isn't a good game for life skills and you can't really apply chess concepts to anything other than chess. If you want to be good at something, do that thing a lot, don't think you're getting good at it by doing something else.
I'll add that chess does make you paranoid. Fischer forgo everything but chess and ended up a conspiracy nut and worried his fillings were antennas for govt messages and had them removed.
The worst possible thing to happen to you will happen in chess, the hardest move to play will be played next against you. That isn't true of life, but often when things are unknown or there's doubt, you can't help falling into pessimism, despite knowing it may not be true.
Can we talk about how the queen is the strongest piece and literally a mary sue who can move practically wherever she wants? God I hate women.
Looks like poor OP plateud at 1000 chess.com so he has to take out his frustration on Cinemaphile.
>Playing on chess.scum
There is a free, as in freedom, alternative that has all the same features and no ads.
I don't get how people can dedicate their entire lives to a game already solved by computers.
>I'm bad at chess and really butthurt about it, so I'm going to do a rage post on Cinemaphile calling chess players failures, without realising rageposting on Cinemaphile is one of the most pathetic things you can do
you tried to make yourself look better and ended up looking MUCH worse
Chess isn't a magic game because you can apply chess knowledge elsewhere. That's literally every game. I used to play a lot of Starcraft so I think with a Starcraft lens.