It's a "lowkey" movie. Nothing big happens, just a man on a revenge quest. No big explosions, no plot twists. a movie with a simple structure and predictable plot
Pretty bad although the premise could have been more interesting.
It's supposed to be a commentary on the stoic assassin type, but it doesn't lean into the parody aspect hard enough so it's just a really weird boring movie where the guy is actually kinda ok at his job and it ends up still being a boring stoic assassin movie.
Spot on. I was expecting a Fincher masterpiece but instead got an overly long and kind of boring movie that lacked identity.
Was it a parody? was it serious? No twists and a predictable plot. I would have never guessed that Fincher directed this if I didn't know before.
I feel cheated because the Fincher/Fassbender combo had so much potential.
It's pretty good. The opening is great. Fassbender does very much with very little, his lack of expressing was fun rather than boring. It was a much better movie of the hitman games than the two actual adaptions. The pacing was slow and there wasn't a lot of action which was refreshing and exciting in its own right.
For the first 10 or so minutes I was extremely bored. But then I realized, this guy is meant to be a cringy moron and the movie is a comedy. Then I started laughing at everything that happened and it was immensely enjoyable. The scene where he goes to kill a guy and gets his ass absolutely beaten and just barely makes it out of there alive, and then he breaks into this 'im such a badass, this is what it takes to be as much of a badass as me, etc.' monologue to himself as he limps away, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.
I think it's a riddle. Every kill is a challenge to the application of your system. Killing Dolores is a challenge to your empathy, for example. The Brute I imagine has to do with physical sacrifice.
But The Client and The Expert elude me. I could say that killing the client would open a can of worms and the risk was too great, but before he leaves he asks him a question that must relate to the reason for sparing his life.
I think it's related to Affairs of State. He was probably watching him throughout the job in Paris to recruit him for the Agency. The intro has a series format, I believe they had plans to expand the story which may be currently under evaluation. I guess this movie can be considered a pilot at the same time.
I know it sounds odd considering it's a movie about a contract killer, but I didn't see any mocking malice against the audience that might enjoy the story.
I really think the only problem with The Killer is how the story was originally going to be a series. They try to disguise it but the way the story is edited gives it away.
Yes, it's a linear episodic narrative that resembles a comic, the source comprises several books so I wonder if it's the entire saga or just a specific arc.
It's important to see the narrative as a project devised by the killer and brought to completion under his own terms rather than a typical revenge flick.
Yes, it's a linear episodic narrative that resembles a comic, the source comprises several books so I wonder if it's the entire saga or just a specific arc.
It's important to see the narrative as a project devised by the killer and brought to completion under his own terms rather than a typical revenge flick.
I mean look at this and tell me this is not for a tv series.
This would make sense as to why the pacing was weird.
This movie wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. Something was....off. Fincher doesn't miss and I wouldn't be surprised if israeliteflix started meddling with his project too much
Probably his relationship with Netflix is not good. He wanted to make a series, Netflix didn't give him enough freedom so Fincher said "ok, let's finish this deal fast" and just cut as much as he could. The Killer was is his passion project I hope that if he goes to Amazon or Paramount he can do what he actually wants to do with the IP.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I just watched Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre and it suffered from the same thing. Studio edits and meddling. 2 of my favorite directors just got cucked by fricking studios and Im sick of it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
did you just start watching movies this week or what?
4 months ago
Anonymous
was this a dig at my favorite directors? or at me for being surprised by studio frickery?
4 months ago
Anonymous
He's been planning to do The Killer as a movie for 2 decades now. There a recent talk between Fincher and Rian Johnson where he mentions how the movie was made etc
I thought it was comfy. I didn't really get the "he's supposed to look like a moron" angle, I saw it more like he coulnd't handle messing up the hit so the rest of the movie is him fricking up but pretending he's in control.
7/10, pretty unique
I think he reacts to things that happen around him that are out of his calculation because all the murders were out of his calculation in the first place. He has to kill his boss, the assistant, a guy from florida, etc.
Basically his whole methodology is put to the test.
He has an ideology but the list he recites are his operating principles. It is the list that keeps him alive and he must fight throughout the movie to keep them.
The fact that the main character doesn't die makes the entire movie a moral dead end, on the one hand you're cheering for him, but the fact that he commits all these objectively horrible acts, the movie implies that those sorts of things are ok so long as you do it in a really cool and well-thought out way. It's not as if he actually lives up to any sort of code either (e.g. Scarface: "no women, no kids"), he mostly kills for self-preservation, which could be an interesting premise except sometimes he kills people totally on accident. It's great competency porn though, if you like criminals macgyvering bombs out of chewing gum, you'll get some enjoyment out of it, I sure did. It's like No Country for Old Men if it were entirely about Anton Chigurh and Chigurh was really really boring.
>It also helps if you know this is a really dry comedy
I could not stop e-girling when i watched the house that jack built, so I assume this might make me shid and fard mine pance.
ty >stupid >chops off her teet
LMAO
>Movies about self discipline and staying motivated to complete goals
I've enough homosexuals on here telling me to bootstrap up after having my head amputated. Not watching movies to have your homosexual opinion reprised, down my throat, up my ass, and bass boosted through my neuralink.
OP is one of those people who read those threads and see people explaining the plot why things that happen in the movie happen and assume it must be good as a result. Then when he sees it and realizes that the plot making sense and having elements that might sound good on paper but not in practice, he blames others for tricking him.
>Cinemaphile tells me this movie is good >don't watch it but recommed it to a friend >the next day he tells im a moron for recommeding him this shitty movie
Frick you Cinemaphile, I thought you had my back.
>murders the taxi driver whose only crime was: he drove a taxi for some strangers >DOESN'T murder the billionaire who paid for the whole thing
I literally cannot comprehend what inspired the writers to give the character and narrative such staggering moral dissonance.
you fricking moron. Killing poor brown people? No one cares. Killing a billionaire head of a company? People WILL notice. He black mailed him and scared him enough to make sure no one went after him. It was smart, unlike you.
are you moronic? his job is to kill people. he literally tells the guy it would be effortless to get away with it. nobody knows who he is, he already killed everyone who does. the only thing that puts him in danger is breaking into the guy's apartment, getting his face on camera for the trouble, and then telling him all this shit to his face, lol. you're wrong on literally every single point in your reply.
>breaking into the guy's apartment, getting his face on camera for the trouble
You just answered your own question. They deliberately showed you the camera to explain this. The combo of the security camera plus the fact that he was a billionaire showed that it was just to risky to kill him.
he could've murdered him a dozen times while stalking him and nobody would've known it even was a murder.
I'm not gonna keep replying just to tell you you're stupid over and over again so make your next post your best one because you're not getting another reply to bounce off of
Indeed. These filtered midwits making threads/comments to express their cluelessness are cringe. They can't even articulate why they didn't enjoy/grokk the movie
At least not being a dim type who lacks insight helps. Also paying attention in order to connect the dots and getting the references (Le Samourai and so on).
I guess they wanted a contrast with the thug, but she did fricking nothing. Like why was she even there from the start, not like she stopped the girl from being beaten or whatever.
She did. She knew he was ready to react so she initially tried to deescalate their interaction with food, drinks, jokes and a seemingly resigned/unthreatening demeanor so as to make him lower his guard for a second and stab him.
The Killer is good. You’re just a chud and chuds have bad taste. Also you’re a post 2012 newbie. You will never have good taste like golden age fa/tv/irgins.
The target was clearly being protected by a rather large security system, it was especially elusive. Even his arrival at the building was projected but not confirmed.
Aside from ritual posts and the AI thread, everything here is advertisement. It's why discussion of every film or tv show that isn't being shilled gets autosaged.
nah hes basically right at least 30% of the catalogue at any time is shilling. especially this thread filled with "ITS GOOD." the movie legit sucks so bad its unreal and the only discussion these threads ever have are whether or not the character was meant to be taken seriously or not
>the only discussion these threads ever have are whether or not the character was meant to be taken seriously or not
When the discussion tries to define whether the protagonist is a parody or not I think that is a problem. Why does David Fincher have problems with projects on Netflix? Mindhunter S2 had serious production problems too and clearly The Killer went through a heavy re-edit to make it a film.
you are right, companies with marketing teams that have budgets in the tens of millions do not hire indians (like you) to spam threads on a website with 0 means to identify organic vs paid content. enjoy the 30 cents an hour rajesh
Again, you're too stupid to realize how absurd it is to assume companies--particulatly netflix- would spend a dime "shilling" anything on Cinemaphile.
Your provincial low IQ makes it hard for you to understand the otherwise obvious. That's why you assume the only discussion about the movie is whether the character is meant to be taken "seriously"- the type of autistic cluelessness that also shows how out of touch you are.
4 months ago
Anonymous
netflix would never spend 30 cents an hour to hire rajesh to market their movies. especially when their annual budget for marketing is nearly 2 billion dollars. they just wouldn't do this on one of the most influential and trafficked websites in the united states!
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're way too autistic to step out of your narrow attempts to see Cinemaphile and The Killer for what they actually are.
Keep ranting about "Rajeesh" until you realize how utterly stupid you sound, including your delusional nonsense that anyone who says they liked a movie is a shill.
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes sar i will redeem the killer netflix subscription now
4 months ago
Anonymous
He sounds smarter than you because he sounds human and you sound like GPT.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're both idiots. Using the word "smarter" as a qualifier is typical of midwits who have to refer to intelligence than express it and your moronic comment is predictably content-free.
To be fair. About half the board was shitting on it and the other half calling it kino, it's one of the only recent movies that had actual discussion going on here
I am going to be honest Cinemaphile,i wanted to watch this movie but after reading your thoughts on it i am not going to.
It sounds like some mediocre at best 6.5/10 action slop that took itself too seriously and morons either ate it up like it was a 10/10 or just hated it.
like the process of ordering assassin gizmos from amazon.com and the procedure of dumping murder weapons at a place with absurdly high security like an airport. and also like the procedure of lightly stomping on a cell phone screen to determine he's done using it
>victim behaves weird in a restaurant in the presence of some roughed up guy >found dead not 200m from said restaurant >prime suspect will be the spouse
uh huh
I think something that happened mid-production is that they got cold feet to show the protagonist as incompetent in order to challenge him.
It's like when you compare Batman Begins and The Batman when Bruce Wayne makes mistakes. There are mistakes that look good or are redeemable. There are others that don't.
I think the film has its merits. I enjoy it very much, but as other anons have pointed out, there is something that feels out of place or disconnected in the editing.
The first part is practically perfect. It builds up to the climax, where the protagonist shoots at the target. The narrative is impeccable and enjoyable throughout the film but it is in the work in Paris where it reaches its best lines.
>The first part is practically perfect
why?
you're just listing plot points
I agree with nothing you're saying about the flicks merits
it has none
4 months ago
Anonymous
Good narration is not a plot point. The script and the direction in Paris are solid. The editing while listening to the narrator is tight. It transmits the monotony of a waiting predator but also the stakes and danger at the end of the job are perceivable.
>it's a try hard edgy slog made by an over the hill has been who lost his touch and ends up coming across as cynical and dull
it was actually a very self aware movie and Fincher was making fun of
1) himself
2) le epic super secret assasin hitman movies
I still don't understand why people say Fincher is making fun of himself or tropes. I'd like to read the reasoning behind that statement.
4 months ago
Anonymous
> Good narration is not a plot point
Good narration is also not present in this fricking film. It’s easily the worst part of the whole thing
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stop expecting to be spoonfed. There's a lot of 1st person narration in the movie but it's observational rather than needless exposition
4 months ago
Anonymous
No it just sucks dude. It’s disjointed, it meanders from unrelated point to unrelated point, it’s overwrought, and it really doesn’t help sell the parody angle because they refuse to lean into it
I hate this movie stylistically
4 months ago
Anonymous
basically this
its funny how le samurai keeps getting referenced in relation to this flick, when it couldn't be more night and day in terms of it's effectiveness compared to the killer
I get that its what they were going for
the reality is that it's shockingly poor compared to a 50 year old film
I agree with this anon. I was immediately hooked. The narration and his demeanor was the good kind of slow and calm. It built tension really well, seeing and hearing the repetitiveness of his job was refreshing and intriguing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>hearing the repetitiveness of his job was refreshing
I don't know about refreshing but it puts you mentally in a state of constant focus and attention, just like the MC the fact that the narrative is happening in real time like Nicky Santoro in Casino adds to the tension. That's why I believe that every killing is a challenge against his code, that he recites like a mantra.
You learn everything you need to know from this thread tbh
Those who didn’t like it >I didn’t like the pacing >The premise was not executed well >The narration was bad >It was boring
Those who liked it: >filtered >you just didn’t get it >it has subtext, that means it’s inherently good >filtered >go watch marvel >I’m so smart for liking a movie >you’re so dumb if you didn’t like it >filtered
If the poster didn’t say David Fincher, no one would be defending it. It’s the exact same people who think that they’re geniuses because Fight Club is their favorite film
>but I'm not going to deny the good parts
which were what exactly?
we all watched the same film, the simple reality is there's very little redeeming value in the killer
it felt very off and not well made, which is compounded by the fact it was made by such a talent like fincher
it was a big miss from him and that's ok, there's no need to blindly defend a bad film from a great director
you people get too attached to your ego driven bullshit and can't judge art on a case by case basis, I get it
it was one of the most vacant, dull, pointless and pretentious sequences I've ever seen
I can't fathom the type of person who could watch something so vapid and think to themselves >yes, this is good, this is entertaining
It serves as an introduction to the main character, his principles, his vision of life and his methodology. If you like existentialist heroes like Le Samourai or The Driver from Drive, this is dessert. The wait for the goal doesn't get boring because it's a chance to get to know the character better and the script doesn't let up at any point, everything he's thinking about is entertaining, in one way or another.
Then the target appears and the audience is as excited as he is to execute the assassination. Then you have the surprise but is not subversion, it's the factor that starts the plot for movie.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Then the target appears and the audience is as excited as he is to execute the assassination
but not one of them was excited
I think this says way more about you than you should be comfortable admitting anon
there wasn't one relatable aspect of the killer, he was offputting, sterile and gross
4 months ago
Anonymous
I think there are things that I also dislike about him. There was no reason to kill the cab driver.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Then you have the surprise but is not subversion
someone post the mental gymnatistics jpeg
4 months ago
Anonymous
You can define it as subversion, I'll grant you that, but it's not the main goal of the move, it's not so much to shock the audience, which it does, of course, as it is to set the rest of the story in motion.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's not so much to shock the audience, which it does, of course
no, it fricking didn't
it happened and wasn't an interesting choice and made everything that came after it even more moronic
4 months ago
Anonymous
>everything he's thinking about is entertaining, in one way or another
This. I would happily watched a whole movie with just that narration.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I would happily watched a whole movie with just that narration.
did you not watch the fricking movie because it's literally that
4 months ago
Anonymous
I meant with as much narration as in the opening.
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes, he's talking to himself non fricking stop the entire fricking runtime anon
I genuinely am not sure if any of you are actual real people sometimes WTFFF
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well that's just not true. There's action, dialogue scenes and some silent parts. Why do you anons always have to exaggerate to try to win a point?
4 months ago
Anonymous
be more pedantic, you're still wrong
4 months ago
Anonymous
How so?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>is pedantic about being pedantic
impressive
4 months ago
Anonymous
haha
4 months ago
Anonymous
Avoiding the question
4 months ago
Anonymous
this isn't a back and forth arguement anon
you're simply wrong and the killer fricking sucks and if you like it you're 100% an offputting weirdo irl and everyone around you is too polite to point it out
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it you're 100% an offputting weirdo irl and everyone around you is too polite to point it out
4 months ago
Anonymous
I feel bad for you bro
improve yourself
call your family, lift weights, be kind and nice, make money, meet a girl
stop spread your narrow hate filled terrible opinions about bad art
you're not a lone badass, you're sad
4 months ago
Anonymous
>you're not a lone badass, you're sad
you don't know that, he could actually be >the killer
4 months ago
Anonymous
I just want to shitpost about films with my bros I'm sick of you edgy try hard shut ins sperging over everything and ruining the lone wolf archetype with your >lé literal me
horseshit
pretty sure fincher was clowning on you with this hamfisted slop too
the irony
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the irony
if only you could see it
(like I do)
🙂
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just discussing the movie properly while you're not, so I guess I don't see your point other than trolling or shitposting.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you're just wrong and the flick is bad
it's not up for debate bucko
4 months ago
Anonymous
Proving me right.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Good god, shut the frick up!!!
4 months ago
Anonymous
shut the frick up fincher
you're not edgy, you're old
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'mg oing to tell your mom you're on the internet again. You know you're not allowed, right? That it aggravates you too much?
Because you're dumb enough to fall for it.
legit question.
is it good? I passed on it.
Extremely mediocre. You didn't miss out on anything.
yeah, it's kino
It's a "lowkey" movie. Nothing big happens, just a man on a revenge quest. No big explosions, no plot twists. a movie with a simple structure and predictable plot
Yes, it is good!
It insists upon itself.
>.t Man baby who watches family guy
this, family guy is way better
BECAUSE IT HAS A VALID POINT TO MAKE, IT'S INSISTED!
Pretty bad although the premise could have been more interesting.
It's supposed to be a commentary on the stoic assassin type, but it doesn't lean into the parody aspect hard enough so it's just a really weird boring movie where the guy is actually kinda ok at his job and it ends up still being a boring stoic assassin movie.
Spot on. I was expecting a Fincher masterpiece but instead got an overly long and kind of boring movie that lacked identity.
Was it a parody? was it serious? No twists and a predictable plot. I would have never guessed that Fincher directed this if I didn't know before.
I feel cheated because the Fincher/Fassbender combo had so much potential.
it's pretty bad. anyone saying otherwise is shilling or 14
It's pretty good. The opening is great. Fassbender does very much with very little, his lack of expressing was fun rather than boring. It was a much better movie of the hitman games than the two actual adaptions. The pacing was slow and there wasn't a lot of action which was refreshing and exciting in its own right.
The opening is anus. The narration is overbearing and disjointed, makes the whole sequence worse
For the first 10 or so minutes I was extremely bored. But then I realized, this guy is meant to be a cringy moron and the movie is a comedy. Then I started laughing at everything that happened and it was immensely enjoyable. The scene where he goes to kill a guy and gets his ass absolutely beaten and just barely makes it out of there alive, and then he breaks into this 'im such a badass, this is what it takes to be as much of a badass as me, etc.' monologue to himself as he limps away, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.
I thought the tear tat meant you were anally raped in prison
>truckin and frickin
>stop pooping in our parking lot
>looks like Amy Schumer
So many keks to be had
One of the better ones this year. It comes off as a literally me cringefest at the beginning but flips the trope in the second half.
I think it's a deliberate parody of Literally Me movies and the guys who like them.
I think it's a riddle. Every kill is a challenge to the application of your system. Killing Dolores is a challenge to your empathy, for example. The Brute I imagine has to do with physical sacrifice.
But The Client and The Expert elude me. I could say that killing the client would open a can of worms and the risk was too great, but before he leaves he asks him a question that must relate to the reason for sparing his life.
And who is this guy by the way?
No one. Killer's paranoia got the better of him but not getting on his connecting flight ensured the killers missed him at home.
I think it's related to Affairs of State. He was probably watching him throughout the job in Paris to recruit him for the Agency. The intro has a series format, I believe they had plans to expand the story which may be currently under evaluation. I guess this movie can be considered a pilot at the same time.
it's quinoah
it's fincher making fun of sigma male audience
I know it sounds odd considering it's a movie about a contract killer, but I didn't see any mocking malice against the audience that might enjoy the story.
Terrible take. The Killer and Asteroid City have filtered a lot of ppl this year
I really think the only problem with The Killer is how the story was originally going to be a series. They try to disguise it but the way the story is edited gives it away.
Yes, it's a linear episodic narrative that resembles a comic, the source comprises several books so I wonder if it's the entire saga or just a specific arc.
It's important to see the narrative as a project devised by the killer and brought to completion under his own terms rather than a typical revenge flick.
This would make sense as to why the pacing was weird.
This movie wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. Something was....off. Fincher doesn't miss and I wouldn't be surprised if israeliteflix started meddling with his project too much
Probably his relationship with Netflix is not good. He wanted to make a series, Netflix didn't give him enough freedom so Fincher said "ok, let's finish this deal fast" and just cut as much as he could. The Killer was is his passion project I hope that if he goes to Amazon or Paramount he can do what he actually wants to do with the IP.
I just watched Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre and it suffered from the same thing. Studio edits and meddling. 2 of my favorite directors just got cucked by fricking studios and Im sick of it.
did you just start watching movies this week or what?
was this a dig at my favorite directors? or at me for being surprised by studio frickery?
He's been planning to do The Killer as a movie for 2 decades now. There a recent talk between Fincher and Rian Johnson where he mentions how the movie was made etc
I thought it was comfy. I didn't really get the "he's supposed to look like a moron" angle, I saw it more like he coulnd't handle messing up the hit so the rest of the movie is him fricking up but pretending he's in control.
7/10, pretty unique
I think he reacts to things that happen around him that are out of his calculation because all the murders were out of his calculation in the first place. He has to kill his boss, the assistant, a guy from florida, etc.
Basically his whole methodology is put to the test.
No anon. Not his methodology but his ideology
He has an ideology but the list he recites are his operating principles. It is the list that keeps him alive and he must fight throughout the movie to keep them.
yeah no I get it, it's just hamfisted and dull
>he must fight throughout the movie to keep them.
that might have been the point of the movie but it falls kinda flat really
I think it has to do with how strange the connected scenes look. It's a serious editing problem that greatly affects the film as a whole.
>It's a serious editing problem
it's the fault of the script period
some of the worst writing I've ever seen
The Expert may have the weakest dialogues, but the whole scene itself is very strange.
Its pretty good. A little too long with bad pacing. Its not Fincher Kino but its still worth a watch.
It's okay.
it worth watching. probably one of finchers weakest, but compared to most movies in current-year, it’s citizen kane
it's ok but it's barely a movie
It feels off, that's true.
The fact that the main character doesn't die makes the entire movie a moral dead end, on the one hand you're cheering for him, but the fact that he commits all these objectively horrible acts, the movie implies that those sorts of things are ok so long as you do it in a really cool and well-thought out way. It's not as if he actually lives up to any sort of code either (e.g. Scarface: "no women, no kids"), he mostly kills for self-preservation, which could be an interesting premise except sometimes he kills people totally on accident. It's great competency porn though, if you like criminals macgyvering bombs out of chewing gum, you'll get some enjoyment out of it, I sure did. It's like No Country for Old Men if it were entirely about Anton Chigurh and Chigurh was really really boring.
Yeah its good.
Expecially if you're a fan of The Smiths.
>Expecially if you're a fan of The Smiths.
all 12 of you?
>The Smiths
for me, it's the pixies
HEY
BEEN TRYING
TO KILL YOU
>the pixies
for me, its husker dü
god damn
exquisite taste
As a huge The Smiths fan it added a lot.
theres a movie about young fans on the night The Smiths broke up
worst they've ever done
Watch it when whatever real project he was actually working on during these months comes out. It also helps if you know this is a really dry comedy
>It also helps if you know this is a really dry comedy
its funny alright, just not intentionally
>It also helps if you know this is a really dry comedy
I could not stop e-girling when i watched the house that jack built, so I assume this might make me shid and fard mine pance.
ty
>stupid
>chops off her teet
LMAO
Worth the watch, pretty mediocre though
One of the weaker Fincher films
It's fincher talking about how he makes movies, but that you can't control everything.
oh wow another meta filmmaker commentary film?
never seen that before
how edgy and relevant
>Movies about self discipline and staying motivated to complete goals
>Zoom zooms can't understand it
Stick to your made for China cape shit
Ye, I am watching that. There is no way it can fail with that crew of people.
>assasin fails
>they go after him and shoot gf
>gets all mad and hunts down everyone
>gets to the boss
>boss says he's being dumb and he feels stupid
Its like a lame Bourne/John Wick mashup.
He was a client. The Boss was the black guy.
>Didn't even understand the plot
Lmfao TikTok has ruined the zoomies
>Its like a lame Bourne/John Wick mashup.
You have to be so fricking stupid to think this
>assassinate the assassin
Does that ever work out well?
except they left out he part where it's fun to watch or engages the audiences outside of dangerous loner incels
>Movies about self discipline and staying motivated to complete goals
I've enough homosexuals on here telling me to bootstrap up after having my head amputated. Not watching movies to have your homosexual opinion reprised, down my throat, up my ass, and bass boosted through my neuralink.
>I've enough homosexuals on here telling me to bootstrap up after having my head amputated.
Holy shit anon what the frick
>straight white male goes around killing women and colored people
The first threads were ripping it to shreds, what are you talking about?
OP is one of those people who read those threads and see people explaining the plot why things that happen in the movie happen and assume it must be good as a result. Then when he sees it and realizes that the plot making sense and having elements that might sound good on paper but not in practice, he blames others for tricking him.
Or he's just trolling.
>Cinemaphile tells me this movie is good
>don't watch it but recommed it to a friend
>the next day he tells im a moron for recommeding him this shitty movie
Frick you Cinemaphile, I thought you had my back.
On the other hand Rebel Moon is kino. Fricking Cinemaphile is full of vaccinated morons.
>Rebel Moon
>Kino
Go away shill!
Cinemaphile likes to jerk off to certain directors' works no matter how shit those might be.
Fincher happens to be one of those directors.
Go be gay somewhere else
It's a great movie that filters Beavis and Butthead types expecting John Wick action and/or a ton of exposition
honestly its just ok and is blown out of proportion because it is made by the same guy who made fight club and seven.
>murders the taxi driver whose only crime was: he drove a taxi for some strangers
>DOESN'T murder the billionaire who paid for the whole thing
I literally cannot comprehend what inspired the writers to give the character and narrative such staggering moral dissonance.
you fricking moron. Killing poor brown people? No one cares. Killing a billionaire head of a company? People WILL notice. He black mailed him and scared him enough to make sure no one went after him. It was smart, unlike you.
are you moronic? his job is to kill people. he literally tells the guy it would be effortless to get away with it. nobody knows who he is, he already killed everyone who does. the only thing that puts him in danger is breaking into the guy's apartment, getting his face on camera for the trouble, and then telling him all this shit to his face, lol. you're wrong on literally every single point in your reply.
>breaking into the guy's apartment, getting his face on camera for the trouble
You just answered your own question. They deliberately showed you the camera to explain this. The combo of the security camera plus the fact that he was a billionaire showed that it was just to risky to kill him.
he could've murdered him a dozen times while stalking him and nobody would've known it even was a murder.
I'm not gonna keep replying just to tell you you're stupid over and over again so make your next post your best one because you're not getting another reply to bounce off of
he literally says via narration that law enforcement efforts to solve his murders increased with the net worth of the victim
>pleb gets mad he got filtered
sad
Indeed. These filtered midwits making threads/comments to express their cluelessness are cringe. They can't even articulate why they didn't enjoy/grokk the movie
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy The K_.ller
At least not being a dim type who lacks insight helps. Also paying attention in order to connect the dots and getting the references (Le Samourai and so on).
just pass on it
WHY THE EXPERT DID NOTHING
EXPLAIN IT TO ME RIGHT NOW
I guess they wanted a contrast with the thug, but she did fricking nothing. Like why was she even there from the start, not like she stopped the girl from being beaten or whatever.
She did. She knew he was ready to react so she initially tried to deescalate their interaction with food, drinks, jokes and a seemingly resigned/unthreatening demeanor so as to make him lower his guard for a second and stab him.
The Killer is good. You’re just a chud and chuds have bad taste. Also you’re a post 2012 newbie. You will never have good taste like golden age fa/tv/irgins.
It is good but you sound like a cringe discord troony
It's good but it's a huge letdown considering it's a Fincher film.
Never ever, newbies
You just outed yourself
Never
Ever
newbie
Too late, better luck next time, lurk moar
lol you missed out on the golden age and you’re under 30 lmao. Tough luck little buddy
This. It wasn't a bad movie but I had very high hopes for a Fincher/Fassbender combo
I.
DON'T.
GIVE.
A.
FRICK.
I'M THE SON
AND THE HEIR
>*blows up dominatrix pelvis*
Yes it was rather good
David who?
I love that movie.
>Reloads gun with 10 bullets
>Pumps the next badguy with 15 bullets.
It's dumb cheesy fun.
I don't listen to Cinemaphile anymore. When they say something is quinoa, it's never quinoa.
Because midwit double vaxxed and reddit users with 0 creative prowess or thought run review sites
Watch any other Fincher movie and tell me this slop is even remotely on that level. Wtf was he thinking?
I usually don't say this, but this movie filtered Cinemaphile hard.
why didn't he take a second shot? I mean it should be part of his plan to account for a miss
The target was clearly being protected by a rather large security system, it was especially elusive. Even his arrival at the building was projected but not confirmed.
Aside from ritual posts and the AI thread, everything here is advertisement. It's why discussion of every film or tv show that isn't being shilled gets autosaged.
Schizo/bottish/troll zero content "comment"
nah hes basically right at least 30% of the catalogue at any time is shilling. especially this thread filled with "ITS GOOD." the movie legit sucks so bad its unreal and the only discussion these threads ever have are whether or not the character was meant to be taken seriously or not
>the only discussion these threads ever have are whether or not the character was meant to be taken seriously or not
When the discussion tries to define whether the protagonist is a parody or not I think that is a problem. Why does David Fincher have problems with projects on Netflix? Mindhunter S2 had serious production problems too and clearly The Killer went through a heavy re-edit to make it a film.
No, you're both delusional with your 12 yo "shilling" paranoia and edgy poor taste in movies
you are right, companies with marketing teams that have budgets in the tens of millions do not hire indians (like you) to spam threads on a website with 0 means to identify organic vs paid content. enjoy the 30 cents an hour rajesh
Again, you're too stupid to realize how absurd it is to assume companies--particulatly netflix- would spend a dime "shilling" anything on Cinemaphile.
Your provincial low IQ makes it hard for you to understand the otherwise obvious. That's why you assume the only discussion about the movie is whether the character is meant to be taken "seriously"- the type of autistic cluelessness that also shows how out of touch you are.
netflix would never spend 30 cents an hour to hire rajesh to market their movies. especially when their annual budget for marketing is nearly 2 billion dollars. they just wouldn't do this on one of the most influential and trafficked websites in the united states!
You're way too autistic to step out of your narrow attempts to see Cinemaphile and The Killer for what they actually are.
Keep ranting about "Rajeesh" until you realize how utterly stupid you sound, including your delusional nonsense that anyone who says they liked a movie is a shill.
yes sar i will redeem the killer netflix subscription now
He sounds smarter than you because he sounds human and you sound like GPT.
You're both idiots. Using the word "smarter" as a qualifier is typical of midwits who have to refer to intelligence than express it and your moronic comment is predictably content-free.
I mean look at this and tell me this is not for a tv series.
To be fair. About half the board was shitting on it and the other half calling it kino, it's one of the only recent movies that had actual discussion going on here
it's satire
the only good scenes are of him moving around, buying stuff, etc
the killing scenes are pretty boring
For me the most enjoyable part is the narration.
This movie was good. And yes before you ask I'm a triple vaxxed bisexual man.
You probably disliked it bc you do sound like a gay
I am going to be honest Cinemaphile,i wanted to watch this movie but after reading your thoughts on it i am not going to.
It sounds like some mediocre at best 6.5/10 action slop that took itself too seriously and morons either ate it up like it was a 10/10 or just hated it.
how can a comedy take itself "too seriously"?
You sound dumb. Do not watch it, go see The Color Purple or some other dreck
only 1 action scene really
This is not an action movie. It's about process and procedure. Control and the flow of power. It's about those things.
like the process of ordering assassin gizmos from amazon.com and the procedure of dumping murder weapons at a place with absurdly high security like an airport. and also like the procedure of lightly stomping on a cell phone screen to determine he's done using it
I like his storage unit.
>victim behaves weird in a restaurant in the presence of some roughed up guy
>found dead not 200m from said restaurant
>prime suspect will be the spouse
uh huh
I think something that happened mid-production is that they got cold feet to show the protagonist as incompetent in order to challenge him.
It's like when you compare Batman Begins and The Batman when Bruce Wayne makes mistakes. There are mistakes that look good or are redeemable. There are others that don't.
this basically sums it up
it's a try hard edgy slog made by an over the hill has been who lost his touch and ends up coming across as cynical and dull
I think the film has its merits. I enjoy it very much, but as other anons have pointed out, there is something that feels out of place or disconnected in the editing.
>I think the film has its merits
name one
The first part is practically perfect. It builds up to the climax, where the protagonist shoots at the target. The narrative is impeccable and enjoyable throughout the film but it is in the work in Paris where it reaches its best lines.
>The first part is practically perfect
why?
you're just listing plot points
I agree with nothing you're saying about the flicks merits
it has none
Good narration is not a plot point. The script and the direction in Paris are solid. The editing while listening to the narrator is tight. It transmits the monotony of a waiting predator but also the stakes and danger at the end of the job are perceivable.
I still don't understand why people say Fincher is making fun of himself or tropes. I'd like to read the reasoning behind that statement.
> Good narration is not a plot point
Good narration is also not present in this fricking film. It’s easily the worst part of the whole thing
Stop expecting to be spoonfed. There's a lot of 1st person narration in the movie but it's observational rather than needless exposition
No it just sucks dude. It’s disjointed, it meanders from unrelated point to unrelated point, it’s overwrought, and it really doesn’t help sell the parody angle because they refuse to lean into it
I hate this movie stylistically
basically this
its funny how le samurai keeps getting referenced in relation to this flick, when it couldn't be more night and day in terms of it's effectiveness compared to the killer
I get that its what they were going for
the reality is that it's shockingly poor compared to a 50 year old film
I agree with this anon. I was immediately hooked. The narration and his demeanor was the good kind of slow and calm. It built tension really well, seeing and hearing the repetitiveness of his job was refreshing and intriguing.
>hearing the repetitiveness of his job was refreshing
I don't know about refreshing but it puts you mentally in a state of constant focus and attention, just like the MC the fact that the narrative is happening in real time like Nicky Santoro in Casino adds to the tension. That's why I believe that every killing is a challenge against his code, that he recites like a mantra.
>it's a try hard edgy slog made by an over the hill has been who lost his touch and ends up coming across as cynical and dull
it was actually a very self aware movie and Fincher was making fun of
1) himself
2) le epic super secret assasin hitman movies
> Netflix
Not even gonna download it. Netflix is pure homosexualry
I didn't, I told you it was mediocre verging on bad.
You learn everything you need to know from this thread tbh
Those who didn’t like it
>I didn’t like the pacing
>The premise was not executed well
>The narration was bad
>It was boring
Those who liked it:
>filtered
>you just didn’t get it
>it has subtext, that means it’s inherently good
>filtered
>go watch marvel
>I’m so smart for liking a movie
>you’re so dumb if you didn’t like it
>filtered
If the poster didn’t say David Fincher, no one would be defending it. It’s the exact same people who think that they’re geniuses because Fight Club is their favorite film
I'm not saying is perfect but I'm not going to deny the good parts.
>but I'm not going to deny the good parts
which were what exactly?
we all watched the same film, the simple reality is there's very little redeeming value in the killer
it felt very off and not well made, which is compounded by the fact it was made by such a talent like fincher
it was a big miss from him and that's ok, there's no need to blindly defend a bad film from a great director
you people get too attached to your ego driven bullshit and can't judge art on a case by case basis, I get it
>which were what exactly?
I'm telling you, the Paris section is the best part of the movie.
it was one of the most vacant, dull, pointless and pretentious sequences I've ever seen
I can't fathom the type of person who could watch something so vapid and think to themselves
>yes, this is good, this is entertaining
It serves as an introduction to the main character, his principles, his vision of life and his methodology. If you like existentialist heroes like Le Samourai or The Driver from Drive, this is dessert. The wait for the goal doesn't get boring because it's a chance to get to know the character better and the script doesn't let up at any point, everything he's thinking about is entertaining, in one way or another.
Then the target appears and the audience is as excited as he is to execute the assassination. Then you have the surprise but is not subversion, it's the factor that starts the plot for movie.
>Then the target appears and the audience is as excited as he is to execute the assassination
but not one of them was excited
I think this says way more about you than you should be comfortable admitting anon
there wasn't one relatable aspect of the killer, he was offputting, sterile and gross
I think there are things that I also dislike about him. There was no reason to kill the cab driver.
>Then you have the surprise but is not subversion
someone post the mental gymnatistics jpeg
You can define it as subversion, I'll grant you that, but it's not the main goal of the move, it's not so much to shock the audience, which it does, of course, as it is to set the rest of the story in motion.
>it's not so much to shock the audience, which it does, of course
no, it fricking didn't
it happened and wasn't an interesting choice and made everything that came after it even more moronic
>everything he's thinking about is entertaining, in one way or another
This. I would happily watched a whole movie with just that narration.
>I would happily watched a whole movie with just that narration.
did you not watch the fricking movie because it's literally that
I meant with as much narration as in the opening.
yes, he's talking to himself non fricking stop the entire fricking runtime anon
I genuinely am not sure if any of you are actual real people sometimes WTFFF
Well that's just not true. There's action, dialogue scenes and some silent parts. Why do you anons always have to exaggerate to try to win a point?
be more pedantic, you're still wrong
How so?
>is pedantic about being pedantic
impressive
haha
Avoiding the question
this isn't a back and forth arguement anon
you're simply wrong and the killer fricking sucks and if you like it you're 100% an offputting weirdo irl and everyone around you is too polite to point it out
>it you're 100% an offputting weirdo irl and everyone around you is too polite to point it out
I feel bad for you bro
improve yourself
call your family, lift weights, be kind and nice, make money, meet a girl
stop spread your narrow hate filled terrible opinions about bad art
you're not a lone badass, you're sad
>you're not a lone badass, you're sad
you don't know that, he could actually be
>the killer
I just want to shitpost about films with my bros I'm sick of you edgy try hard shut ins sperging over everything and ruining the lone wolf archetype with your
>lé literal me
horseshit
pretty sure fincher was clowning on you with this hamfisted slop too
the irony
>the irony
if only you could see it
(like I do)
🙂
I'm just discussing the movie properly while you're not, so I guess I don't see your point other than trolling or shitposting.
you're just wrong and the flick is bad
it's not up for debate bucko
Proving me right.
Good god, shut the frick up!!!
shut the frick up fincher
you're not edgy, you're old
I'mg oing to tell your mom you're on the internet again. You know you're not allowed, right? That it aggravates you too much?
So what, you really just want an audiobook?
I liked the getaway part
What a dishonest post. I mean there's many people ITT who have put forth many more valid points than those as to why the liked it.
nah he nailed it
you got caught bucko
If you actually watch it, it's the perfect movie.
I like it but I cannot say is the perfect Fincher movie.
See that red letter "N" in the top left corner?
Yeah, you should already know it's complete shit by that alone, you dummy.