Why does Cinemaphile hate Alien 3?
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Why does Cinemaphile hate Alien 3?
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because it's trash that was made without even a completed script.
Alien 3 AC is the best alien film
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is sure as heck was better than that space axe one
i think the changes to the music ruins the cremation scene with hicks and newt
Came here to say this.
Alien3 > Alien = Aliens > AVP1 > Resurrection > shit > Mememetheus
Boring, too many characters, dumb setting that had to be toned down from the even dumber wooden monk planet.
Because it wasn't slop like Aliens.
Came to say this. Aliens was such fricking trash it's incomprehensible to me that people even like it. The over the top acting was too fricking much. Alien was a masterpiece of suspenseful horror. Aliens was total slop garbage.
yup, this. Aliens is the "now this is podracing" of the Alien franchise, no wonder Cinemaphile likes it so much
Normies overwhelmingly like aliens over alien. Because they're morons.
Normal intelligent people like both Alien and Aliens because they are part of the same story. Only Cinemaphile tards need one to be le best and the other must then be trash
>thoughtful and interesting characterization
Vs
>a bunch of meatheads making moronic quips
Yeah, these are exactly the same.
Alien is like 2001 A Space Odyssey, Aliens is like fricking Star Wars. They took a movie brimming with lore, atmosphere and metaphor and dumbed it down to schlocky action crap straight out of fricking Halo. They're practically unrecognizable from each other.
That's wrong and stupid. I'm sure there's not really any point discussing it with you though.
Because it expects me to care about what happens to a group of violent criminals.
fincher is always bad. and that's his worst
Finally someone said it.
Fincher has always sucked.
RAPE GOGGLES
>5+ rape
>10+ armor
>150+ zest
Well at least black men can get laid by white women unlike you
Retcons, bad cast.
It has some incredible shots though, I'll give it that.
homie, take a seat, look me in the eyes and tell me Mr Dance is “bad cast” with a serious face.
What do you mean? It was his worst movie performance. That includes him dressing as a woman.
The cast is one of the best things about it. Top class British theatre actors ffs.
Yeah well, you don't want to know me, anon. I'm a sneedposter and evader of bans.
premise issue, Cinemaphile is not a monolith. I enjoyed Alien 3, but it's important to acknowledge it is essentially a retelling of Alien the first in terms of the story arc, characters, and antagonist. Which is what made Aliens such a good sequel, it took the premise for the horror movie and went in an action direction. Alien 3 should have taken note and done another genre. Maybe political drama.
>aliens
>good sequel
Trash opinion. Alien 3 is better in every way than aliens.
Most people hate it because they wanted more shooty shooty kaboom big mech fighty fighty like the second movie. Then the third goes back to the same formula as the first. Cameron raised the bar too much, action wise, for the plebs to appreciate it returning to the pure horror roots of the first
Its basically a great filter to see if you're talking to a dumbass
no, the reason people hate is that it made a big stink about "standing on its own" but reusing characters and storylines from previous movies without improving upon them, but rather chew them out again, like slop. It should have not have had any storylines carried over aside from ripley. They ruined the previous movies, just like 2 ruined 1.
Alien should never have had sequels. It shouldn't be called Alien 3. It should be Alien: Prison Planet or some shit.
>It should have not have had any storylines carried over aside from ripley
That's literally what the movie is. Just Ripley being the only survivor again. Just her and another hapless group, slowly getting whittled down one by one. Then they call back to the previous two films at the end with the company showing up to get what she holds
And it ends like before, both times before, with her denying them. The real movie that shouldn't have existed is the fourth
>what is Newt
>what is Hicks
>what is Bishop
Definitely wasn't "only Ripley". It needed tons of crutches. And it was gay and a failure. Glad it is considered a total dumpsterfire.
You have shit movie taste, lil bro.
Newt was dead. Hicks was dead. Bishop was revived for one quick scene, and it mirrored the scene in the first with Ash. The whole movie is her coming full circle. I'm sorry you can't appreciate that
I get what you mean, but my point is: Aliens (2) was a self-contained experience. I know for a fact that there are tons of people who have only ever seen Aliens (2) and never the first one, since it is a self-contained experience.
Alien 3 is not a self contained experience. It needed crutches to exist. And it is simply not a good movie.
It has some incredible vibey shots, I agree. Some of the best in the series. But it's a horrible movie that nobody outside the fandom appreciates.
>Aliens (2) was a self-contained experience
No it wasn't. Its starts with the survivor of the first film being found. It has her going back to the exact same place they touched down on in the first film. Her whole reason for being there was her experience from the first film. It relied exclusively on the first film
>Aliens (2) ending makes sense on its own
>Alien 3 ending does not make sense without knowledge of the 2nd movie (especially not the most vital scene of Bishop reappearing)
At this point I am convinced you are mentally handicapped.
this is simply untrue man alien 2 is often considered the first movie of a lot of fans cmon
>a lot of fans
>considered the first movie
Maybe if you're a zoomer who doesn't know what the frick they're talking about
>aliens gets shit on for retconning most of the story
>"it relies on the first one"
yep, Aliens 3 morons are redditors
>I don’t get Alien 3, it confuses and scares me
I’ve shortened it down for you.
>MUMMY MUMMY SURPRISE ME AGAIN
>SURPRISE ME AGAIN MUMMY, BUT DO IT WITH THE SAME SURPRISE AS LAST TIME
>DO IT OR I'LL HOLD MY BREATH AND TURN BLUE
brain dead homosexual
daaah I want to see Jason 1 Jason 2 Jason 3 and duuhh Jason 4 and uhhh Jason uhh 5 and uhhh Jason 6 and Jason 7 and and uhh Jason 8 and uhhh Jason 9 and uhhh Jason 10 and then I want to see Jason 11 and daaah Jason 12 too
and dey allz gotz ta be the same story and daaah dey allz gotz ta be fomuylayic slasher daaah.
cos it a surprise every time with Jason u never no watz gowin 2 hapen
Go to bed, your psychosis is flaring
have a nice day and leave the house burning so no one has to clear up the mess
>likes rock band
>gets mad when the next album isn't polka
>likes mario
>gets mad when the next game isn't a first person shooter
>likes Stephen King
>gets mad when the next book isn't a romance novel
you missed the point because you're dense enough to want endless identical slasher films where the plot remains the same and only the actors change.
>how dare you want more of what you like?!
You know what movie you could watch if you don't like the alien formula? Literally any other movie that isn't in the alien franchise. The reason aliens did well was because it appealed to the lowest denominator by being a cheesy action slopflick, not because it rewrote the formula. It appealed to morons, like yourself.
>DAAHH SURPRISE ME WITH THE SAME SURPRISE AGAIN AND AGAIN I'M A REAL SMAAAAHT BOY MA, DAAAH I JUST MADE A DOO DOO IN MY PANTS MA
there is no "alien formula", thankfully, otherwise it would have been turned into immemorable dogshit like every other homosexualed pile of crap with 100 identical sequels.
it was a 70s slasher set in space. that's it. they put pipes on the corridors and the slasher had a long head instead of a hockey mask.
there's a reason why only 2-3 slashers of the hundreds that were made in the 70s are at all remembered.
you're an actual dunce
Yeah bro, it's not like the best selling alien video game was based on survival horror and all the shooters were panned garbage. Totally a coincidence.
>video game comes out 40 years after the film
>poster doesn't know the difference between a film and a game
>ignores all the other games made before it
avengers endgame made 2 billion, that means team ups are better, and aliens was a team up.
money and greater sales are proof, like you just stated
thanks for playing 😉
Jesus Christ Frodo, share the load
Every game in the alien series was shit except for isolation. That isn't even up for debate. Aliens is popular because it appeals to morons like you. That's it.
>Every game in the alien series was shit except for isolation.
I'm going to stop you right there.
you never played any because you weren't born when they came out.
you likely never heard of the films until you saw a youtuber tell you to play the game.
you're a dullard frickwit
can also guarantee that you played it on a console like a fricking spastic
>Every game in the alien series was shit except for isolation.
I'm going to stop you right there.
You're trying way too hard. I'm sure being the angriest little boy on the internet is hard work though.
I hate strong female leads.
They had to magically create a reason for it to even exist. If the previous movie says "The protagonists won, all is well, they slept peacefully and returned home safe and sound." you don't get to go ACTUALLY! There were secret alien monsters stowing aboard SOMEHOW and they impregnated the main characters, started a fire that made them SOMEHOW land on a prison rape planet and 2/3 die! It's the definition of a "turn off your brain and don't think about it" movie. And it damaged the Alien series so badly that it's stagnated for decades after. When someone competent could have just made a badass Alien 3 instead that started many years in the future like Aliens did.
>alien 3
>turn off your brain
>not aliens though
Game over, man. Game over.
Its boring and everyone looks and acts the same
I preferred the wooden spaceship script.
Alien 3 is definitly good and underappreciated but if you're saying its better than the OG Alien than you're just a homosexual piece of shit looking for attention.
no one cares about the bonus situation
get over it
>Bonus Situation
Someone’s going to post it…
So many Alien 3 enjoyers, recent increase in Terminator enjoyers over T2 enjoyers too, Is it too early to say cinema is healing?
nah, you are just having your contrarian phase is all. You'll grow out of it when big youtubers will try to sell you on Aliens 3.
This. Same group trying to convince everyone that the Star Wars Sequels are actually good
That will never happen, even in 30 years it ain’t happening there’s nothing redeeming about them
Alien 3 is unfinished slop abandoned by its director, but yes I think audiences are getting stupider
>cinema is healing?
did they let harvey out?
starwars was saved in the edit by a woman!!!!
This is the first Alien movie I've seen, so I can't hate it, but I can now understand that it's the worst sequel to Aliens.
For me its easily
Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Prometheus > Alien 4 > Alien Covenant. But if someone wanted to put Prometheus number 1 I'd be ok with that. The franchise is has been dead after Prometheus anyways.
Prometheus & AC:C are more “David movies ft Xenomorphs” an it’s a criminal shame we aren’t getting a third act
This movie would have been fine if it was a sequel to the first movie.
You can head canon it to that she crash lands onto fury, remove the scenes with aliens references and it works out alright.
You're so eager to accept that magic eggs just appear on her ship huh? The entire premise of the movie is impossible. She destroyed the alien and was safe at the end. In both movies.
You know it’s not real don’t you, they’re just movies, I thought you was an Aliens enjoyer? Why aren’t you flustered by the shake and bake colony that converted an entire planet to breathable oxygen in 50 years?
Not really, it's a pretty idiotic and unsatisfying way to take any story. Especially after the fantastic first movie. And definitely after the fantastic first two movies.
they should have started alien 2 with her arriving back at earth, but she's lost her memory because she hit her head.
then they give her a new crew and one is a secret android, and they all go back and then they find the spaceship and one looks at an egg and it goes on his face and then they go back to the ship and it comes out of his tummy and then it kills people and she has a cat and then she beats it up and then goes to sleep with her cat and flies back to earth ready for alien 3 when she arrives back at earth but she's lost her memory because she bumped her head so they give her a new crew and send her back.
that would be perfect, because I'm a 3 year old with a head injury and I can't remember the last film I saw apart from it was called 1 instead of 2 or 3
Why fincher have him specify "of women"?
I like this movie for the simple fact it has a rape planet. I went ahead and said it and i'm not ashamed to admit it.
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How come Alien did corporate soullessness through Ash and Mother much better than Aliens where Burke is a generic corporate rat?
Two sides of the same coin. Instead of the soulless automated costumer support number like in the first movie, instead you got the greasy sales clerk trying to upsale everything in the second
>kills entire cast off screen
its simple as that
it takes a huge shit on the franchise, spits in your face and expects you to like it
its one of the worst sequels in cinema history
>it takes a huge shit on the franchise, spits in your face and expects you to like it
I too will never forgive Cameron for simplifying the xenomorph into bug drones.
simplifying from what?
alien 1 is a basic space slasher with very little thought put into the lore, what did Cameron change?
>alien 1 is a basic space slasher with very little thought put into the lore, what did Cameron change?
Do they say this because Alien didn't have a giant robot fight and Ripley dropping qoutes?