It's a stale subject, and yeah, there's an element of racism, but for me, it's that they play his characterization so safe, so impotent, that it comes out being sort of offensive in itself. A common problem of well meaning white people writing black characters. "Kind, noble, helpful, friendly, if anything maybe he tries too much, cares too much," Zzzzz Let black people be complicated and flawed too, it's ok. A full grown adult doing his shrill "Aww jeez, i'm just a helpful little guy," voice throughout SM2 the latest, cringiest example.
He’s much too Chad for the spider fandom.
They’re used to being nerds and geeks, so they can only self-insert as a nerd and geek.
Miles is much too Chad and based and fresh for their dorky fantasies.
That’s the answer to your question.
Oh boy >sole purpose is to retire Peter now instead of an aged Peter >bullshit electric powers with no explanation >constantly mooching off of Peter's Rouge gallery >constantly showing up in every adaptation of spider-man >super smart (because of course) with zero personality >all of the marvel universe blows smoke up his ass >character made to appease diversity quota instead of being a character >is supposed to be in touch with black culture but acts white >his Latino heritage feels tacked on
Also he's a commie
>>is supposed to be in touch with black culture
isn't he a student in a private school with uniforms and shit and lives in a decent apartment for every race standard?
I wish the third movie would be about teen Eddy being a street trash, daily dealing with crackheads, gangs and pathologic family (living in a small flat where he has to share bed with his older brother, mother just being sardonic to everything and dad being a drunk that pisses himself on the staircase entry) then getting a Symbiote and going apeshit on everyone just for Milkes and the rest going full moralgay on him
AYYO PETEAH, YOU JUST TURNED 25?
BRROOOOOO FR FR YOUZ OUTTA YA ELEMENT OLD MAN
GO RETIRE, LEAVE IT FOR A YOUNG BUCK LIKE ME
AY
AY AY
AY AY AYYYY
SPIDER NIZZY GOT THE GLIZZY
Its because Miles is a gary stu that marvel is trying so fricking hard to make everyone like by throating his BBC all the time in an attempt to replace Peter as the mainstream spiderman. And it just majes him a less interesting character.
He's not natural. There's nothing natural or relatable about Miles. He has like three different personalities depending on what media you watch. He has several love interests that never develop past "I like her". His powerset is just Spider-man plus OP lightning abilities that just become whatever Miles needs at the moment. He has no interesting stories besides his movies, and even then it went from a story about how Miles is his own person just to have the sequel say "Every Spider-man you know and love is actually really evil and also incompetent vs Miles". Miles is just a poster boy for why comics suck now. Just a rehashed version of a character with a plethora of amazing storylines with none of the interesting qualities of Peter. He has no weakness and no flaws besides apparently being inexperienced but still somehow managing to beat Peter every time they fight. Every compliment Miles' fans give him, Miles has a comic to disprove it. "Miles isn't a Gary Stu, he's still really amatuer at being Spider-man" *Proceeds to one shot characters that Spider-man would need help to fight against*. "Oh, he doesn't know the responsibility of being Spider-man requires". *Proceeds to have every thing he wants come to him*. Every story Miles has been involved in, could be done by literally any other Spider variant. The biggest problem is that he isn't just an alternate Spider-man, he's either Spider-man's partner, or THE Spider-man. No other Spider-man has been forced this hard as the new Spider-man.
Think of all the shitty x-men that have come and gone through the years.
Now imagine if they never left and were always involved in the X-men's stuff
Imagine if Nate Grey was everywhere..
I dislike Miles for the same reason I dislike the God's Not Dead movies, media made by blind dogmatic fanatics is worthless and predictable, no better than outright propaganda
>ability to attract Gwen
That just tells us that he has a vaguely humanoid shape.
What's next? Praising him for being able to extract oxygen from air using his lungs?
so we have to DEFEND him because he's black and mainstream? >what was going to be the point if he was white? >Marvel/Sony/Disney exploited and milked Peter for decades, but now it's Miles and it's a no-no? >why can't Miles can't have his own things going on to make him different?
see that's my problem, Miles could have literally anything going on with him (while Peter still have the same amount of attention for years) and Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile will literally still complain about him
Every character has to be defended, that's why Spider-Man has 10 movies and Dazzler has 0 >what was going to be the point if he was white?
So he exists only to be black? That's good writing to you? >Marvel/Sony/Disney exploited and milked Peter for decades, but now it's Miles and it's a no-no?
Peter was milked because there was something to be milked, Miles kept coming up short over and over and they just kept doubling down on him anyway, an exceptional privilege not afforded to most other failures >why can't Miles can't have his own things going on to make him different?
Why can't he? It's been 12 years and he's still "Spider-Man but black"
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>So he exists only to be black? That's good writing to you?
no, that's just to make him different. then it's up to whoever writing him to add more stuff on top of it. you're still stuck at the black part even 12 years later >Peter was milked because there was something to be milked, Miles kept coming up short over and over and they just kept doubling down on him anyway, an exceptional privilege not afforded to most other failures
wrong. you literally said it yourself, 10 Spider movies. These companies knows Spider-Man is their cashcow. They can literally put anyone under the mask in any media and it would sell.
there's no "privilege", it's fricking Spider-Man
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Anonymous
Miles isn't Spider-Man though? So liking him kind of makes you a poser
5 months ago
Anonymous
not my fault if you're dyslexic/being moronic on purpose
5 months ago
Anonymous
Miles isn't Spider-Man, anon. Peter Parker is. It's not hard to follow. You like a fake character
5 months ago
Anonymous
Miles isn't Spider-Man, anon. Peter Parker is. It's not hard to follow. You like a fake character
Make out, now.
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Anonymous
>no, that's just to make him different.
But it doesn't make him different, if people are tired of e.g. Spider-Man and Batman origin story movies, then making new ones again but casting black guys as Peter/Bruce would do nothing to make those movies more interesting, like how Gordon being black, or the Eternals being a rainbow coalition didn't inherently make them more interesting compared to their original versions >then it's up to whoever writing him to add more stuff on top of it
And they did nothing of the sort in 12 years because the goal for Miles is for him to be "Spider-Man but black", as opposed to e.g. Punk who is "Spider-Man but punk" who just so happens to be black >you're still stuck at the black part even 12 years later
Because the writers have been stuck on the black part even 12 years later, it's not very hard to figure out >wrong. you literally said it yourself, 10 Spider movies.
Yes, because Spider-Man has always been the most popular and best selling Marvel character, meanwhile Miles has NEVER been even close to being Marvel's most popular character, yet he's the receiving the push as if he was >These companies knows Spider-Man is their cashcow.
And they never even thought about doing that once in half a century until they had the chance to push "Spider-Man but black", no 2099 movie or game in the 90s when Miguel was crazy popular, no Mayday movie or game in the 00s when she was crazy popular, yet dozens of Miles games, movies, TV shows, comic runs etc in the 2010s when he consistently sold like shit wherever he appeared for a decade straight >there's no "privilege", it's fricking Spider-Man
It's definitely black privilege no other Spider-Man or even superhero character received, Big Hero 6 made 4x their budget and won an Oscar and haven't had a movie or game since, meanwhile for Miles it meant he gets to invade every single Spider-Man story and project ever to Peter's detriment
Nah, even if there are tons shitty white characters they're still confined to their own IPs/brands/media so you can safely ignore them, Miles is actively shitting on all Spider-Man media which used to be good by default, and is now bad by default entirely through his fault. If those other shitty white characters invaded stories I like I'd be b***hing about them, if Miles fricked off and did his shit in his own media/brand/name then I wouldn't care about him, yet the opposite is the case.
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Anonymous
Eve when he was still just in the Ultimate universe people were kind of okay to just let bygones be. Now every conversation in 616 has to double back to him. Far more interesting and better written characters haven't been giving nearly the extra chances he has.
>Spider-Man is not The Flash >Spider-Man is not Robin >Spider-Man is not Batgirl
And no, he's not Green Lantern either (which you somehow managed to forget).
Spider-Man is Peter Parker.
Miles is Poochie.
>Or the Robins
The funniest shit is morons like you point to Robin as an example of people not caring about new characters taking on pre established superhero roles when Jason Todd was so fricking hated the fanbase voted to kill him off.
Marvel's incessant push to have him replace Peter. They keep acting like Peter is some geriatric old frick who needs to retire, but he's only 30-something. In the Insomniac games, he's 28.
because the whole "he IS spiderman" is done just because of copyright issues with the original. they want to gaslight people so they prefer the Black person instead of the og. besides that, he's bland and stereotypical, and as a mexican I find his fake Latin side to be very offensive. we hate chicanos and we absolutely hate people like miles here
It's because Miles fundamentally does not know what being Spider-man means. Spider-man is not a title. It is not a job. It is the story of a person who got full of themselves made a mistake that cost him and has vowed to never repeat that. Spider-man is not something fun or awesome. Spider-man is not anyone can just call themselves. Spider-man is the responsibility of one person.
Spider-verse exists to de-legitimize Peter Parker from the beginning. Comics were always a business, of that I have no illusions, but Spider-verse totally reduces Spider-man to a brand and Peter Parker to a character with even less agency and respect in his own narrative that he started. It demands we ignore that everything about this character is made famous because of the troubled young man behind the mask he made with his own hands.
What are you talking about >wants to be Peter's sidekick and not replace Peter >Peter tells the kid to frick off and only stops because he feels bad and responsible >has his own villains by his first appearance like Gutterball >when he gets thrown into 616 instead of having his entire life retconned in he's legit just a homeless kid >his bite has weaknesses as it requires physical contact and if a subject is armored he can't bite through it unlike Miles' venom blast which works on nearly fricking everything
He's poorly integrated and the concept is stupid but the execution isn't too bad so far as he's a total silver age throwback and leans more into the silly end of Spidey shit instead of the misery porn we've been getting. Yeah, I understand why Cinemaphile likes it.
Imagine if the Miles Morales character was introduced in the exact same manner that he originally was, but instead of being a half-black half-latino kid, he was a white kid named Mike Morris.
In Ultimate Comics, the original Peter Parker is killed in battle, and shortly thereafter, we're introduced to Mike Morris, a teenager who is bitten by the exact same spider that Peter was, and gains the exact same powers as Peter, except he also has the extra special powers of invisibility and "Venom Strike" electricity. Mike gets a costume for himself that clearly looks like Spider-Man, and he calls himself the new Spider-Man. Not Spider-Boy, or The Arachnid, but "Spider-Man". Mike then meets Aunt May, Mary Jane, and Peter's other supporting cast, and Aunt May even gives Mike Peter's webshooters. In the years to come, Mike will be ported to the main 616 continuity, where he fights alongside Peter, and the two share the mantle of "Spider-Man". Mike fights many classic Spidey villains, takes a version of The Prowler from Peter to be his arch-nemesis, the writers constantly beat readers over the head with how important and valid Mike is as Spider-Man, and Mike is thereby shoved into every possible Spider-Man adaptation (comics, cartoons, video games, etc.), where Peter has to share the spotlight with Mike Morris, the new Spider-Man.
Mike has stolen Peter's title, powers, origin story, supporting cast, villains, arch-enemy, costume, and spotlight, and we're all constantly reminded how great of a character he is by the writers.
Doesn't this whole idea sound so laughably bad? It would go down as a mere footnote in Spider-Man mythology, and Mike Morris would barely be remembered by comic nerds as, "Hey, remember that one time the writers tried to replace Peter Parker with that new kid? That was dumb."
But no, because Miles is a black minority kid, anyone who points out how poorly conceived this whole thing is will just be accused of being "racist." We're stuck with him forever.
At this point why does it matter? There's multiple answers, some legitimate and some not. Are his fans that insecure that they feel like everyone must like him?
>decade of constant shilling >zero interesting independent supporting characters >zero interesting independent villains >zero interesting runs >contradicting and confused messaging >no signs of stopping
I am just tired of the fact that there's so much money in the world that it can be wasted on trying to force something like this.
>Doesn't have Pete's power origin >Doesn't rely on Pete's rogues >Doesn't use Pete's name >Doesn't have and easy life handed to him on a silver platter >Has different powers
Spider-boy is nothing like Miles. Miles was bad hamfisted writing personified.
Spider-boy is a bad writer giving it his best, and it's better than a bad writer giving it his laziest.
>only became popular after spiderverse
Why are people generally willing to stump for that version of miles? Is it because of the movie looking good/having a good supporting cast or is he legitimately better than his other selves?
It's a stale subject, and yeah, there's an element of racism, but for me, it's that they play his characterization so safe, so impotent, that it comes out being sort of offensive in itself. A common problem of well meaning white people writing black characters. "Kind, noble, helpful, friendly, if anything maybe he tries too much, cares too much," Zzzzz Let black people be complicated and flawed too, it's ok. A full grown adult doing his shrill "Aww jeez, i'm just a helpful little guy," voice throughout SM2 the latest, cringiest example.
>There's an element of racism
No there isn't .
mike morris, the bigger batman
He’s much too Chad for the spider fandom.
They’re used to being nerds and geeks, so they can only self-insert as a nerd and geek.
Miles is much too Chad and based and fresh for their dorky fantasies.
That’s the answer to your question.
Miles is a nerd, though
>He’s much too Chad
He can't even talk to a woman without stalking her
Literally the lamest fictional black guy I ever seen.
Oh boy
>sole purpose is to retire Peter now instead of an aged Peter
>bullshit electric powers with no explanation
>constantly mooching off of Peter's Rouge gallery
>constantly showing up in every adaptation of spider-man
>super smart (because of course) with zero personality
>all of the marvel universe blows smoke up his ass
>character made to appease diversity quota instead of being a character
>is supposed to be in touch with black culture but acts white
>his Latino heritage feels tacked on
Also he's a commie
>>is supposed to be in touch with black culture
isn't he a student in a private school with uniforms and shit and lives in a decent apartment for every race standard?
I wish the third movie would be about teen Eddy being a street trash, daily dealing with crackheads, gangs and pathologic family (living in a small flat where he has to share bed with his older brother, mother just being sardonic to everything and dad being a drunk that pisses himself on the staircase entry) then getting a Symbiote and going apeshit on everyone just for Milkes and the rest going full moralgay on him
>super smart
He still can't make his own web fluid in 616 comics.
Dude was giving a academics speech at an x-men academy.
AYYO PETEAH, YOU JUST TURNED 25?
BRROOOOOO FR FR YOUZ OUTTA YA ELEMENT OLD MAN
GO RETIRE, LEAVE IT FOR A YOUNG BUCK LIKE ME
AY
AY AY
AY AY AYYYY
SPIDER NIZZY GOT THE GLIZZY
i dont like black people
Redundant. Race replacement.
Hate oreos, simple as.
He’s black
Its because Miles is a gary stu that marvel is trying so fricking hard to make everyone like by throating his BBC all the time in an attempt to replace Peter as the mainstream spiderman. And it just majes him a less interesting character.
Pic related
He's not natural. There's nothing natural or relatable about Miles. He has like three different personalities depending on what media you watch. He has several love interests that never develop past "I like her". His powerset is just Spider-man plus OP lightning abilities that just become whatever Miles needs at the moment. He has no interesting stories besides his movies, and even then it went from a story about how Miles is his own person just to have the sequel say "Every Spider-man you know and love is actually really evil and also incompetent vs Miles". Miles is just a poster boy for why comics suck now. Just a rehashed version of a character with a plethora of amazing storylines with none of the interesting qualities of Peter. He has no weakness and no flaws besides apparently being inexperienced but still somehow managing to beat Peter every time they fight. Every compliment Miles' fans give him, Miles has a comic to disprove it. "Miles isn't a Gary Stu, he's still really amatuer at being Spider-man" *Proceeds to one shot characters that Spider-man would need help to fight against*. "Oh, he doesn't know the responsibility of being Spider-man requires". *Proceeds to have every thing he wants come to him*. Every story Miles has been involved in, could be done by literally any other Spider variant. The biggest problem is that he isn't just an alternate Spider-man, he's either Spider-man's partner, or THE Spider-man. No other Spider-man has been forced this hard as the new Spider-man.
This is not true but I couldn't resist. Nearly five minutes in MSPaint.
Think of all the shitty x-men that have come and gone through the years.
Now imagine if they never left and were always involved in the X-men's stuff
Imagine if Nate Grey was everywhere..
I dislike Miles for the same reason I dislike the God's Not Dead movies, media made by blind dogmatic fanatics is worthless and predictable, no better than outright propaganda
Because he's one of the scary chocolate people who make me run home and hide under my bed whenever I see one.
damn you sound pathetic personally i hate him because he's annoying redundant and only appeals to morons like (You)
>it's 2011
>the only defense Miles has is "YOU'RE RACIST"
>it's 2018
>the only defense Miles has is "YOU'RE RACIST"
>it's 2023
>the only defense Miles has is "YOU'RE RACIST"
Yes, it turns out 2+2 continues to equal 4.
So we agree that Miles has no actual merits and would be indefensible if he were white
Nope.
His swagger and ability to attract Gwen, means he’s blacked/Latino.
>ability to attract Gwen
That just tells us that he has a vaguely humanoid shape.
What's next? Praising him for being able to extract oxygen from air using his lungs?
so we have to DEFEND him because he's black and mainstream?
>what was going to be the point if he was white?
>Marvel/Sony/Disney exploited and milked Peter for decades, but now it's Miles and it's a no-no?
>why can't Miles can't have his own things going on to make him different?
see that's my problem, Miles could have literally anything going on with him (while Peter still have the same amount of attention for years) and Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile will literally still complain about him
Every character has to be defended, that's why Spider-Man has 10 movies and Dazzler has 0
>what was going to be the point if he was white?
So he exists only to be black? That's good writing to you?
>Marvel/Sony/Disney exploited and milked Peter for decades, but now it's Miles and it's a no-no?
Peter was milked because there was something to be milked, Miles kept coming up short over and over and they just kept doubling down on him anyway, an exceptional privilege not afforded to most other failures
>why can't Miles can't have his own things going on to make him different?
Why can't he? It's been 12 years and he's still "Spider-Man but black"
>So he exists only to be black? That's good writing to you?
no, that's just to make him different. then it's up to whoever writing him to add more stuff on top of it. you're still stuck at the black part even 12 years later
>Peter was milked because there was something to be milked, Miles kept coming up short over and over and they just kept doubling down on him anyway, an exceptional privilege not afforded to most other failures
wrong. you literally said it yourself, 10 Spider movies. These companies knows Spider-Man is their cashcow. They can literally put anyone under the mask in any media and it would sell.
there's no "privilege", it's fricking Spider-Man
Miles isn't Spider-Man though? So liking him kind of makes you a poser
not my fault if you're dyslexic/being moronic on purpose
Miles isn't Spider-Man, anon. Peter Parker is. It's not hard to follow. You like a fake character
Make out, now.
>no, that's just to make him different.
But it doesn't make him different, if people are tired of e.g. Spider-Man and Batman origin story movies, then making new ones again but casting black guys as Peter/Bruce would do nothing to make those movies more interesting, like how Gordon being black, or the Eternals being a rainbow coalition didn't inherently make them more interesting compared to their original versions
>then it's up to whoever writing him to add more stuff on top of it
And they did nothing of the sort in 12 years because the goal for Miles is for him to be "Spider-Man but black", as opposed to e.g. Punk who is "Spider-Man but punk" who just so happens to be black
>you're still stuck at the black part even 12 years later
Because the writers have been stuck on the black part even 12 years later, it's not very hard to figure out
>wrong. you literally said it yourself, 10 Spider movies.
Yes, because Spider-Man has always been the most popular and best selling Marvel character, meanwhile Miles has NEVER been even close to being Marvel's most popular character, yet he's the receiving the push as if he was
>These companies knows Spider-Man is their cashcow.
And they never even thought about doing that once in half a century until they had the chance to push "Spider-Man but black", no 2099 movie or game in the 90s when Miguel was crazy popular, no Mayday movie or game in the 00s when she was crazy popular, yet dozens of Miles games, movies, TV shows, comic runs etc in the 2010s when he consistently sold like shit wherever he appeared for a decade straight
>there's no "privilege", it's fricking Spider-Man
It's definitely black privilege no other Spider-Man or even superhero character received, Big Hero 6 made 4x their budget and won an Oscar and haven't had a movie or game since, meanwhile for Miles it meant he gets to invade every single Spider-Man story and project ever to Peter's detriment
I agree that you guys hand out passes to tons of shitty white characters.
Damn, dude, Miles is just shit. Other people liking shitty white characters doesn't change that at all
Nah, even if there are tons shitty white characters they're still confined to their own IPs/brands/media so you can safely ignore them, Miles is actively shitting on all Spider-Man media which used to be good by default, and is now bad by default entirely through his fault. If those other shitty white characters invaded stories I like I'd be b***hing about them, if Miles fricked off and did his shit in his own media/brand/name then I wouldn't care about him, yet the opposite is the case.
Eve when he was still just in the Ultimate universe people were kind of okay to just let bygones be. Now every conversation in 616 has to double back to him. Far more interesting and better written characters haven't been giving nearly the extra chances he has.
He's black.
Any other reason offered ignores the fact that people here complained about Miles before he even officially debuted.
he's black. and mainstream now. that's just it.
any blog essay you'll ever read is just a long cope about statements above.
>Why does Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile hate Miles so much?
He's not Spidey
Now do the Flashes
Or the Robins
Or the Batgirls
>Spider-Man is not The Flash
>Spider-Man is not Robin
>Spider-Man is not Batgirl
And no, he's not Green Lantern either (which you somehow managed to forget).
Spider-Man is Peter Parker.
Miles is Poochie.
>Or the Robins
The funniest shit is morons like you point to Robin as an example of people not caring about new characters taking on pre established superhero roles when Jason Todd was so fricking hated the fanbase voted to kill him off.
Because he's a better Spider-man than Peter, since Miles was bited by an anime powered spider.
He isn't spiderman, he is (variant) Spiderman.
One of many variant spider people, but he is not THE Spiderman.
That's the thing right? Instead of making a spider-man that has his own identity, they want to make him the spider-man and swap peter out for him
Marvel's incessant push to have him replace Peter. They keep acting like Peter is some geriatric old frick who needs to retire, but he's only 30-something. In the Insomniac games, he's 28.
because he's Brian Bendis' paycheck and an easier licensing deal for Sony. Because he's indicative of the laziness of an industry
He's Poochie. Simple.
because he's black
He's so forced.
because the whole "he IS spiderman" is done just because of copyright issues with the original. they want to gaslight people so they prefer the Black person instead of the og. besides that, he's bland and stereotypical, and as a mexican I find his fake Latin side to be very offensive. we hate chicanos and we absolutely hate people like miles here
It's because Miles fundamentally does not know what being Spider-man means. Spider-man is not a title. It is not a job. It is the story of a person who got full of themselves made a mistake that cost him and has vowed to never repeat that. Spider-man is not something fun or awesome. Spider-man is not anyone can just call themselves. Spider-man is the responsibility of one person.
Spider-verse exists to de-legitimize Peter Parker from the beginning. Comics were always a business, of that I have no illusions, but Spider-verse totally reduces Spider-man to a brand and Peter Parker to a character with even less agency and respect in his own narrative that he started. It demands we ignore that everything about this character is made famous because of the troubled young man behind the mask he made with his own hands.
Conveniently Cinemaphile loves Spider-Boy despite having the same problems
No I want every other Spider-Shitter dead and I hate Slott as much as Wells
Tell that to Cinemaphile
I didn't say anything about race. I know pedos lurk here
Cinemaphile is awfully loud about Spider-Boy
Is all of Cinemaphile right now with you in your room?
>Muh racism
It's old, anon. Just read more classic Spider-Man and forget about Miles
>Conveniently
Conveniently ignoring everyone who thinks both are lame and drag down the Spider-man story.
What are you talking about
>wants to be Peter's sidekick and not replace Peter
>Peter tells the kid to frick off and only stops because he feels bad and responsible
>has his own villains by his first appearance like Gutterball
>when he gets thrown into 616 instead of having his entire life retconned in he's legit just a homeless kid
>his bite has weaknesses as it requires physical contact and if a subject is armored he can't bite through it unlike Miles' venom blast which works on nearly fricking everything
He's poorly integrated and the concept is stupid but the execution isn't too bad so far as he's a total silver age throwback and leans more into the silly end of Spidey shit instead of the misery porn we've been getting. Yeah, I understand why Cinemaphile likes it.
We don't LOVE him but notice how he calls himself something related but distinct to differentiate?
Imagine if the Miles Morales character was introduced in the exact same manner that he originally was, but instead of being a half-black half-latino kid, he was a white kid named Mike Morris.
In Ultimate Comics, the original Peter Parker is killed in battle, and shortly thereafter, we're introduced to Mike Morris, a teenager who is bitten by the exact same spider that Peter was, and gains the exact same powers as Peter, except he also has the extra special powers of invisibility and "Venom Strike" electricity. Mike gets a costume for himself that clearly looks like Spider-Man, and he calls himself the new Spider-Man. Not Spider-Boy, or The Arachnid, but "Spider-Man". Mike then meets Aunt May, Mary Jane, and Peter's other supporting cast, and Aunt May even gives Mike Peter's webshooters. In the years to come, Mike will be ported to the main 616 continuity, where he fights alongside Peter, and the two share the mantle of "Spider-Man". Mike fights many classic Spidey villains, takes a version of The Prowler from Peter to be his arch-nemesis, the writers constantly beat readers over the head with how important and valid Mike is as Spider-Man, and Mike is thereby shoved into every possible Spider-Man adaptation (comics, cartoons, video games, etc.), where Peter has to share the spotlight with Mike Morris, the new Spider-Man.
Mike has stolen Peter's title, powers, origin story, supporting cast, villains, arch-enemy, costume, and spotlight, and we're all constantly reminded how great of a character he is by the writers.
Doesn't this whole idea sound so laughably bad? It would go down as a mere footnote in Spider-Man mythology, and Mike Morris would barely be remembered by comic nerds as, "Hey, remember that one time the writers tried to replace Peter Parker with that new kid? That was dumb."
But no, because Miles is a black minority kid, anyone who points out how poorly conceived this whole thing is will just be accused of being "racist." We're stuck with him forever.
Miles, intentional or not, is the mascot of the white replacement theory
He's a charity case character who humiliates blacks with his over-inflated lameness. Meanwhile Spawn and Blade were badass
At this point why does it matter? There's multiple answers, some legitimate and some not. Are his fans that insecure that they feel like everyone must like him?
>it's a peter self-inserts cry and shit their adult diapers over miles thread
they can't help themselves at this point
>decade of constant shilling
>zero interesting independent supporting characters
>zero interesting independent villains
>zero interesting runs
>contradicting and confused messaging
>no signs of stopping
I am just tired of the fact that there's so much money in the world that it can be wasted on trying to force something like this.
Spider-Boy is Miles done right.
>proof
He is a white Miles and people love him.
One of the main reasons he's successful is because he wasn't created to replace Peter, unlike Miles
dude has his own villains and that's more than miles have in 10 years
>Doesn't have Pete's power origin
>Doesn't rely on Pete's rogues
>Doesn't use Pete's name
>Doesn't have and easy life handed to him on a silver platter
>Has different powers
Spider-boy is nothing like Miles. Miles was bad hamfisted writing personified.
Spider-boy is a bad writer giving it his best, and it's better than a bad writer giving it his laziest.
>only became popular after spiderverse
Why are people generally willing to stump for that version of miles? Is it because of the movie looking good/having a good supporting cast or is he legitimately better than his other selves?