Why does Batman just not use his wealth to solve the root causes of crime instead of investing in more extravagant ways to beat up thugs?

Why does Batman just not use his wealth to solve the root causes of crime instead of investing in more extravagant ways to beat up thugs?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    And what is the root causes of crime?
    >I can already tell where this thread is going

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you read comic books, anon?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barbara herself confirmed in her batgirl series years earlier that Bruce only donates to charities he himself owns (tax evasion) and this comic you posted is after Joker War where it was revealed Waynetech stole 100 billion dollars in public services money from those same hospitals and charities to spend on Bruce’s gadgets like his satellites and his car and his batarangs.
      Which is something Catwoman discovered after Bruce hid his dirty money sources from everyone, which is why she’s angry at him in Gotham War for stealing the people’s money just like all rich corpos do to spend on bat-cars

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is the most moronic retcon I've ever read, and this is after finding out that spiderman's black suit was an alien from a race of ancient space goo dragons

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can't become a billionaire without tax evasion. It's literally impossible, it's just the logical reveal

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >logical reveal
            >Batman
            Man, now I know you're taking the piss, m8

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't Batman just use 100 billion dollars to create a perpetual rape machine to lock The Joker inside?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        KEKW Batkek is a joke

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's not batkek that's regular batman

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >organized crime boss and known supervillain announces her plan to stop crime by constantly robbing people

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is this really canon? Man I'm a lefty and this is just stupid

        And yet the recent one also pointed out that for every henchman who commit crimes to feed themselves, plenty more commit crime for the sake of causing pain to others. After all, you don't work for known super criminals like the Joker or Professor Pyg if on some level you don't want to watch lives being actively ruined.

        Odd to see Jason being completely reasonable and in the right in a non-red hood book

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yep it’s literally the current event in Batbooks
          Catwoman is using Bruce’s former fortune to pay and train muggers to rob rich people

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Selina not only stole all of Bruce's money, but is openly using it to fund her crime operation
            >everyone's just cool with it for some reason
            LMAO and to think Zdarsky was the guy everyone was saying would save Spider-Man. What a bunch of slop.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Is this really canon?
          It's from the Gotham War event, so yeah it's canon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >batfam homosexualry
      no.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barbara herself confirmed in her batgirl series years earlier that Bruce only donates to charities he himself owns (tax evasion) and this comic you posted is after Joker War where it was revealed Waynetech stole 100 billion dollars in public services money from those same hospitals and charities to spend on Bruce’s gadgets like his satellites and his car and his batarangs.
      Which is something Catwoman discovered after Bruce hid his dirty money sources from everyone, which is why she’s angry at him in Gotham War for stealing the people’s money just like all rich corpos do to spend on bat-cars

      this is so fricking dumb who even thought of this

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this is so fricking dumb who even thought of this
        Chip, the guy everyone started sucking off after he did a SINGULAR decent Daredevil run.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because when he does, it never works and he just goes back to doing more Bat-beatdowns.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Batman just not use his wealth to rape on the largest scale?

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people keep making these stupid threads about cartoons? Batman is a CARTOON for fricks sake. People have lost completely touch of reality nowadays. Internet was a mistake.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If Batman had used his money to donate to POC social service charities then George Floyd would never have happened

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >then George Floyd would never have happened
        I think you mean "If Batman had donated enough money to Planned Parenthood"

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every time someone complains "superheroes never challenge real systemic issues!", without fail, they are a politics-obsessed piece of shit who is just mad superheroes don't enforce their agenda on the world.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry people care about the real world and not just media for children like you do, anon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's capeshit writers' fault for trying to put real life crap in comics while at the same time ignoring basic logic.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because he doesn't want to do that, he wants to dress up in his onesie and play superhero forever.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Because he doesn't want to do that, he wants to dress up in his onesie and play superhero forever.
      When did mental illness becoming the overriding theme of Batman comics?
      Even immediately post-COIE, Bruce was a functional adult who could emotionally support Jason. The costume was a tool.
      But even the Timmverse in the 90s started leaning into that "I'm a craaazy man who calls himself Batman because Bruce is the mask and I drive everyone away" theme, which I assume the comics started?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        A mentally sound person does not devote his entire life to a promise he made when he was eight years old and in the throes of grief. Especially not if it involves dressing up like a bat.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          By that logic 99% of superheroes are mentally ill.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Other heroes have powers.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The root causes of crime aren't poverty, you moronic Marxist. The root causes of crime are people being violent thieving raping murdering buttholes. You can't solve that with money. These people aren't stealing bread to feed their families.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >These people aren't stealing bread to feed their families
      Yes they are incel

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You obviously never lived anywhere near areas where crime is prevalent.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          The people who don’t understand this are the privileged types who never had to live in crime-infested areas.

          Poor people only commit crime so they have money to eat you chuds

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Please explain how murder and rape put food on their tables.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              If they eat the people they kill, that would put food on their tables.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That only explains Killer Croc.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It comes up every now and then, usually in plot points like:
            A: Money wont fix the supervillains that already exist.
            B: Batman's the only non-corrupt rich guy in Gotham.
            C: Money into charities and such just get funneled out and put into various criminal organizations.
            Plus it seems like every charity gets robbed by the villains anyway.
            I dunno, all of this really depends on the comic/cartoon/movie in question, as they all handle things differently.

            Friendly reminder that "CHUD" is an insult meant to be specifically for people who don't go outside, so stating that crimes are done explicitly by poor people looking for food is about as "chud" as you can get. Can't even use the "raging lefty" assumption here since cities are full of homeless dudes stabbing people for no reason and tweakers grabbing kids and chucking them off bridges while screaming about how birds aren't real.

            Go outside, Anon. There's lots of things you could be doing out there. Become a foodie, go review shit on Google Maps and Yelp or something, it's lots of fun.
            It's okay to have nerdy introvert habits and hobbies, but going outside is good for you.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              (me)
              >type this up
              >some guy outside starts yelling bloody murder like he's about to kill someone
              >look
              >don't see anyone
              >put on shoes and grab keys, about to head to the grocery store, kinda hoping I get to see someone yelling someone else's head off

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please point out all of the Batman stories where this happens. Provide issue references and scans or be forever known as a filthy unwashed syphilitic liar.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Batman doesn't go after people who steal bread, he goes after clown-themed mass-murderers and guys with sub-zero ray guns.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Batman doesn't go after people who steal bread
          Yes he does. The revent Catwoman war showed that loads of the henchmen Batman beats up and arrests only do it to feed their families. There are other such stories involving those kinds of he chmen too like Batman Noel and Joker’s 80th anniversary

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            And yet the recent one also pointed out that for every henchman who commit crimes to feed themselves, plenty more commit crime for the sake of causing pain to others. After all, you don't work for known super criminals like the Joker or Professor Pyg if on some level you don't want to watch lives being actively ruined.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Did they really had no alternatives, besides working for well-known costumed psychos/mass murderers (who routinely murder their own minions)?
              I think the writers who came up with that idea really overestimate the severity of a problem.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                They could get a fricking job, but making money the easy way is too time consuming and working with the Penguin will make you richer in a few months than working as a clerk in a grocery store or in a factory in less time.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >working with the Penguin will make you richer in a few months than working as a clerk in a grocery store or in a factory in less time.
                Only if you survive long enough and that is never the case, how do you think the penguin has the money to pay his henchmen? Exactly, it doesn't really pay them.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >working with the Penguin will make you richer in a few months than working as a clerk in a grocery store or in a factory in less time.
                Only if you survive long enough and that is never the case, how do you think the penguin has the money to pay his henchmen? Exactly, it doesn't really pay them.

                Given that Penguin runs a highly successful front company, keeps his criminal deals at arms length as possible, and tends to hire out specifically for criminal activities, the people on Oswald's payroll should be overwhelmingly legitimate workers.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, they COULD sign up to places like Waynetech or go to the various adult education facilities being built with help from the Wayne Foundation...

                ...Except according to posters like OP, that doesn't ever solve anything, and Batman should be using his money for more important things like...I dunno, something. Maybe a seven mile long spanking machine for the Joker?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks to Tini and Zdarsky, who are too hyped up on the real life politics of "all billionaires are evil and Bruce Wayne the comic book character is exactly like real life" AND the Selina breastsuck Gotham War Is, the Joker War/Gotham War event killed the Wayne Foundation and its desire for the good of Gotham, just to say "well, Wayne gives himself the money he gives to the Foundation, so he's not doing anything good at all."

                It's all political commentary coming from idiots who can't make a good story within the setting.

                You can easily say that crime pays you faster and with more money than a legitimate job, you can write the Rogues Gallery as actual criminal families who do want their turf to have loyal and professional criminal goons and aren't all crazy psychos who kill at the drop of a hat. You can even write Joker as even less of a crazy fricker and more like a Prince of Crime who cares about making money and fame and not killing Gotham every other year. But writers are absolute shit at making something that isn't some huge apocalyptic event and nuance and restraint is nonexistent.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I especially like how they ignore the fact that Selina is a highly wealthy career criminal who has literally never made an honest dollar in her life. It's a chick in a penthouse running a ponzi scheme complaining that that rich people are the real criminals.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would say I don't know how the writers can't see that they're throwing rocks in glass houses, but the writers here are just that bad at their job and really don't see the irony of fricking career criminal Catwoman who has worked with countless crime lords over the years to make her millions, is saying "Bruce Wayne is bad because he's a billionaire!" and then write away the Wayne family contributions for the disadvantaged in Gotham, to make Bruce look bad.

                Gotham War is, and Joker War was, dumb and made by people who don't know Bruce or Batman Comics well and are in too hyped up on the twitter regurgitated "Billionaires are bad" spew to make a reasonable effort into making a good story.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's especially funny because Howard's X-line work was basically a love letter to corporate exploitation. Joker War is actually a direct rebuttal to Gotham War, as Joker War showed that at any given point there are hundreds of people in Gotham who will gladly rob, murder, and destroy their way across Gotham for no reason other than being Joker stans.

                Fact: Batman does not hire crooks.
                Fact: all of Batman’s “charity donations” are canonically only donations to his own companies.
                Fact: Batman stole 100 billion dollars from Gotham’s public services such as soup kitchens charities and hospitals.

                How could Batman steal 100 billion dollars from public services if he only gives money to his own companies?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >who will gladly rob, murder, and destroy their way across Gotham for no reason other than being Joker stans
                They literally did all that only because Joker was paying them will the billions of stolen money Bruce was hoarding
                They needed money and for the first time in their lives they could get it from somewhere - except it was Joker giving it to them and never Bruce

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                But Joker only had the money because Selina gave it to him.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Joker had the money because he took it from Bruce via Punchline hacking Bruce’s shadow accounts

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize that the money in the Wayne Foundation isn't Bruce Wayne's, right? That like other people own and control it and its usage, and that being CEO doesn't mean he's allowed to use it as his piggy bank without the approval of someone else, like Lucius Fox?

                First of all that comic is noncanon, well done for once again needing to cope with that because you have no actual examples
                Second of all Batman never hires crooks.

                Sorry fricko, but DC's stance is that every story is canon since Dark Night Metals. So you can stop repeating yourself.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is his own money, that is how money laundering works. You pay into your own company so it stays in your own pocket and you just don’t have to pay tax. That was Barbara’s whole point.
                And Dc’s stance isn’t that every story is canon, it’s that their histories are canon. Dark Knight Returns and Vampire Batman and Lady Mermaid Batman aren’t canon just like Noel isn’t canon
                And Canon Batman DOES NOT HIRE CROOKS. He only steals from their charities.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Canon Batman did
                You admitted it yourself

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                One time in all of his existence, letting a victimless nobody be his titty secretary

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                ...So, yes, he did then. Okay, thanks for agreeing with me.

                Read it and weep.

                >taking Joker's word as gospel
                Lol
                Lol to the nth degree

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >needs to cope with noncanon again
                >because canon Batman does not hire crooks and this makes the manbaby seethe
                KEKAROO!!

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Waynetech =/= Bruce's personal fortune
                R-tard

                noncanon this, noncanon that, I get it I get it, you seethe over the Bat

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The comic made clear it’s Bruce’s personal fortune he was using to fund his batman adventures. And noone in that comic you posted got hired, by Bruce himself or anybody else.

                Once again you fail to post any example because there are none and this makes you seethe and cry like a b***h lmaOOOOO

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Read

                Joker was literally the one who exposed that Batman was hiding his money so it can’t be used to fund hospitals and can instead by used on batmobiles

                Or better yet just read the comics you cry about you pleb

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you want a comic for every single ex-con and hobo that Bruce helps?
                >NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT EXAMPLE THAT DOESN'T COUNT
                Get a grip.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Provide a canon example then you manbaby
                Oh wait you can’t, because there are none and aside from that single titty secretary bruce NEVER hires crooks.
                LMAOOOOOO

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >GIVE ME A CANON EXAMPLE
                >*canon example gets posted*
                >NOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
                I repeat again, get a grip.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I repeat again
                “aside from that single totty secretary who was hardly a criminal”
                Which you have failed to do because you’re a manbaby with no actual basis in reality

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has to keep moving the goalposts

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn’t move shit manbaby. I said again and again that that titty secretary is the only person he has ever canonically hired, and time after time again you prove me right like the low iq little b***h you are. I win. I accept your pathetic sniveling defeat like the chad I am.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                homie, stop replying to him, holy shit he's a troll who only cares about spouting about a big tittied secretary and not reading anything about Batman and how much he's always tried to help the city of Gotham, as Batman himself or Bruce Wayne.

                Ultimately speaking, the current writers of Batman are so into huffing the farts of Twitter Berniebros/all the rich must die talking points, they think that by making Bruce Wayne into a corrupt billionaire like real life people (because the writers can't write for shit and have to stand on a soapbox) is somehow great social commentary and dismiss that Bruce Wayne has always helped people and did what he could to give Gothamites ways to stay out of crime and get criminals a way back into society.

                This whole event is made by current writers who care more about "making social commentary for Twitter to jerk off about" than an actually well written story. They also want to clit-suck Selina and when the Vandal Savage reveal is shown to her and her plan goes even more breasts up, she'll most likely be absolved of any wrong doing. Because she can’t be assed to find out where all the stolen goods are going to (which is to Vandal Savage who's going to raid Gotham soon enough and doesn't care about collateral damage).

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                You literally cannot provide a single canon example of Bruce hiring crooks other than that titty secretary and I just proved it. Boom, gay.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Harold Allnut was born a mute hunchback. He found his way north to Hub City in The Question #33 after his parents threw him out of their Gotham City home.
                >He later came back to Gotham, where he came to the Penguin's attention. When the criminal learned of Harold's mechanical genius he provided shelter in exchange for Harold creating new devices to be used in the Penguin's criminal activity. Harold's life was threatened whenever he tried to object. Batman fought Penguin's forces several times, eventually discovering and rescuing Harold.
                >Grateful, Harold used his skills to helping Batman build new gear; eventually maintaining everything from the Batmobile to the Batcave's computer systems.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That was retconned by the story you posted, Allnut always worked for Batman now

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Harold's life was threatened
                This is duress. Harold was not a criminal.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if you ignore the counter-example, my argument works

                >anon does not read comics
                That image isn’t from their punchline story, it’s an unrelated much earlier story where she expresses similar sentiments
                And Bruce has proven to be the exact same as other corpos because he hid and stole money from public services to fund his toys

                Why would he have to do that? His money is generated from owning Wayne Enterprises, he'd just need to use his dividends to pay for everything. Not to mention that $100 billion dollars would not only make the Wayne Foundation the second largest charity in the world, it'd make it the largest charity in the USA. And not only would it be the largest charity in the USA, it'd be larger than the next 12 largest charities combined. Are we really expected to believe that the world's second largest charity has never actually provided anything to anyone in its entire existence and no one noticed?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >His money is generated from owning Wayne Enterprises
                Wayne Enterprises would not make in its entire lifetime enough money to pay for even 1 Watchtower spacestation.
                And you misunderstand. Bruce does not put that money into the Wayne Foundation. He hid it in thousands of dummy accounts so he never has to pay any of it to charities or hospitals once the IRS catches wind of his gold hoard.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                good, that's smart
                being batman serves people better than unlimited tax money

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                So then by your own admission the money is Bruce's personal finances being spent according to his whims. Also having it in dummy accounts doesn't mean he doesn't pay his taxes. If your entire argument hinges on Bruce improperly listing his assets to the IRS, then how the frick does Selina and everyone she's funding get a pass since you can't put proceeds from a strong-arm robbery down on a tax form?

                Also the main expense of putting things in space is launch costs; Bruce is personally acquainted with people who can directly haul things to orbit for free.

                The annual budget for Chicago is over 10 billion dollars. I don’t think the people making these threads realize how insanely expensive things are, even a super billionaire like Bruce Wayne couldn’t fund the essential services of a massive city for very long before becoming penniless.

                (And that’s ignoring that stopping someone from blowing up the city will always be worth more than any charity work he could do)

                I'll do you on better. NYC's yearly budget is over $100 billion dollars a year. The NYC Department of Homeless Services alone has a budget of over $2 billion a year.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                He literally said out loud in the event he did it to not pay taxes on anything. Selina said it too. It’s the hundred billion dollars he never payed to hospitals

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also the main expense of putting things in space is launch costs; Bruce is personally acquainted with people who can directly haul things to orbit for free
                Bruce did it secretly without telling anyone on the league

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, an even better example.
                Municipal funding is absurdly fricking expensive, and even the best cities have a ton of corruption that inflates costs. Can you imagine how expensive Gotham’s budget would be? Wayne could liquidate every asset he owns, barely fund the city for a few years (or even just whatever programs he wants), and that still wouldn’t “fix” crime or poverty.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bruce doesn't run his company. Lucius Fox is CEO. Ergo, Lucius has been doing all this.

                Joker had the money because he took it from Bruce via Punchline hacking Bruce’s shadow accounts

                Selina was directly aiding and abetting Joker.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Selina was working against Joker in that story, and it was Batman who did it and he said so himself.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Selina has continuously shown herself perfectly willing to work with and associate with the Joker.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wow anon, Bruce hired 1 (one; uno; wahid) single harmless victimless roastie to be his titty secretary, surely this means any of the thousands of Gotham’s criminals can go to Waynetech with zero wualifications and be handed free money!

                Except they can’t, because aside from this 1 (one; uno; wahid) titty secretary, Bruce does not and has not and never will hire unqualified uneducated crooks. He has in fact purposefully robbed ex-crooks of their professions too, accomplishing the exact opposite.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh no, he's stopped criminals' ability to rob and rape people with impunity, what a monster

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has to resort to noncabon cartoon adaptation because canon comic batman does not hire crooks
                Thanks for proving I’m right since you don’t have any actual canon examples

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I could probably dive into dozens of different examples, but the thing is, homosexuals like you won't accept them because they don't support your dumb narrative of how Batman stopping a dude from murdering people is robbing him of his job to kill people by a clown faced loon

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >“I-I-I-I COULD probably dive into dozens of different examples, b-b-b-but I just WON’T because ummm uhhh reasons ok????”
                >proceeds to post a picture of Batman NOT hiring a crook but literally just saying “do better” like the meme
                Thanks for proving me right nonfan cuck. Batman canonically does not hire crooks.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                ????
                But you admitted he did right

                Wow anon, Bruce hired 1 (one; uno; wahid) single harmless victimless roastie to be his titty secretary, surely this means any of the thousands of Gotham’s criminals can go to Waynetech with zero wualifications and be handed free money!

                Except they can’t, because aside from this 1 (one; uno; wahid) titty secretary, Bruce does not and has not and never will hire unqualified uneducated crooks. He has in fact purposefully robbed ex-crooks of their professions too, accomplishing the exact opposite.

                , you know. So does he or doesn't he?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                He doesn’t, aside from the 1 (one; uno; wahid) single exception in his entire lifetime who he only hired to be a titty secretary

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't, except the one time he actually did

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                First of all that comic is noncanon, well done for once again needing to cope with that because you have no actual examples
                Second of all Batman never hires crooks.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The DC "canon" has been so dogshit for a straight two decades outside of maybe a handful of runs that the "non-canon" stuff is more faithful to the ideas and concepts of the characters.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              the Arkham games played that card well. Like you can actively distinguish between Two Face’s goons who are just regular scorsese hired criminals and Joker’s mob who are all dribbling frothing lunatics more insane than he is all rallying around the only one of them smart enough to point them in a direction

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ideally Catwoman will get shot by her people in the future

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The revent Catwoman war showed that loads of the henchmen Batman beats up and arrests only do it to feed their families. There are other such stories involving those kinds of he chmen too like Batman Noel and Joker’s 80th anniversary
            Like I said, "structural bads" has been the driving theme of Batman comics for several decades now. Batman is accused of driving the criminals he interacts with insane, or the founder of Arkham drives everyone insane, or the whole city was built on a Native American burial ground that's cursing all the colonizers...

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look, that would make sense if they were independent criminals who rob stores and the occasional bank, but they are criminals who work for psychopaths whose plans involve killing innocent people most of the time.
            That is no longer stealing to feed your family, that is committing crimes for pleasure.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Tini Howard is a fricking hack and the whole plan of Catwoman training Gotham criminals to be better thieves got two of them killed and a security guard tortured and is allowing Vandal Savage into Gotham to raid it. Gotham War is dumb as hell and the "uwu sad criminals" are just that, criminals.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The people who don’t understand this are the privileged types who never had to live in crime-infested areas.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      True. I'm sure some crime is done out of necessity, but when you have rich schmucks being corrupt then you know it's not the only reason.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but when you have rich schmucks being corrupt then you know it's not the only reason.
        Some people can have everything they could possibly want and still commit crimes. Like

        Because he's a goddamn comic book character, and in the world of comic books, crime isn't caused by poverty or discrimination, but from an inherent lack of moral strength in the individual.

        says, it's a lack of moral strength, and the belief they'll get away with it. People commit crimes because they don't think they'll get caught or punished. When you live in a weak society run by people who make excuses for criminals and enable them, it only emboldens them to commit more crime.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even Saturday Night Live did a skit on that.
    So even Normie a are aware.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s just Hollywood doing their usual bullshit. Plus, nobody watches SNL anymore.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    He does. It doesn't stop all crime and I'm sure many people would rather be rich in a few days rather than put up the work of being gainfully employed and making wealth through years of hard work and the effort to put into that job.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because he's a goddamn comic book character, and in the world of comic books, crime isn't caused by poverty or discrimination, but from an inherent lack of moral strength in the individual.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    And how would that solve Batman's problems?
    >Ivy is a psychopathic eco-terrorist, no matter what Batman does to solve Gothan's pollution problems, there will always be pollution.
    >Joker, is a crazy psychopath obsessed with chaos.
    >Penguin, he is also a psychopath.
    >two faces, he is also a psychopath.
    >the riddle, he is also a psychopath.
    >catwoman, she is a kleptomaniac.
    >Harley, is incapable of living in society.
    >and there will always be idiots who steal, because it is the easy way.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because writers are fricking moronic in every aspect.
    Bruce Wayne was never supposed to be THAT rich, just enough to fund his crime-fighting, enough that his businesses have a reputation for being good to work for and philanthropic, but not enough that he has multiple billion-dollar industries under his sway and he's one of the richest people in the world. In their goal to give Batman more cool gadgets to use, they necessitate him having more ludicrous amounts of wealth to throw around. At the same time, he's never allowed to actually win, even though he wants to. So it's incredibly hypocritical when the writers have a character like Barbara or Selina go "hurr durr ur rich" when it amounts to the writers shitting on the character they're writing for their own writing flaws.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because a Batman without wealth is just a Punisher that doesn't kill or use guns.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow you mean to tell me capeshit is inherently fricking stupid? Stop the fricking presses.

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    gotham is literally cursed

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ummmmm why doesn’t Batman support female sex workers????

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bruce solving anything by just throwing money at it is unironically less realistic than a vigilante like Batman making a positive difference.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Batman is just a dog of the state

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I guess its because he just has a big ego and is a fricking white male

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    in comics, all villains are mentally ill torture victims, they had no chance to live a good life

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fact: Batman does not hire crooks.
    Fact: all of Batman’s “charity donations” are canonically only donations to his own companies.
    Fact: Batman stole 100 billion dollars from Gotham’s public services such as soup kitchens charities and hospitals.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fact: all of Batman’s “charity donations” are canonically only donations to his own companies.
      Literally what is wrong with this? At least with his donations he knows where that money's going. Give it to some other corpo and they'd use it to pay off Scarecrow or some shit.
      >Fact: Batman stole 100 billion dollars from Gotham’s public services such as soup kitchens charities and hospitals.
      If none of those places were doing shit to help Gotham they had no reason to exist.

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    You’re all just pathetic Jasongays jealous because Batman is a hero and you are just edgy villains

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gotham's public charities and services are proven inept over and over again
    >Bruce mogs them every time with his own corporate-sponsored versions of them
    >"BATMAN IS LE STEALING FROM CHARITIES!!!!!"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      He literally is stealing from them, and none of his own “charities” have helped a single character in all of canon. Harper Row confirmed this herself.

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read it and weep.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unironically listening to Joker
      Now you're not even trying.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Joker was literally the one who exposed that Batman was hiding his money so it can’t be used to fund hospitals and can instead by used on batmobiles

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm crazy enough to take on Batman, but the IRS? No, thank you.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm crazy enough to take on The Joker, but the IRS? No, thank you.

  26. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Harper Row and Cullen’s storyline with Punchline confirmed that none of Bruce’s do-nothing “charities” (tax evasion schemes) have ever helped anyone in any real way

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >phoneposter can't read the stuff he finds on Google Images
      Harper didn't confirm shit, she's just expressing doubts that Bruce would be different from the other corpos, which he's proven before to be.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >anon does not read comics
        That image isn’t from their punchline story, it’s an unrelated much earlier story where she expresses similar sentiments
        And Bruce has proven to be the exact same as other corpos because he hid and stole money from public services to fund his toys

  27. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder Bruce canonically robbed hundreds of reformed ex-felons of their jobs because he arrested their boss Penguin for breaking parole rules by hiring them

  28. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder The Batman who Laughs miniseries confirmed that in the timeline where Bruce poured all his money into becoming mayor instead of funding Batman, all of Gotham’s crime dissapeared instantly and forever

  29. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder Bruce killed nearly 2 million innocent people in the OMAC attacks (the satellite of which he payed for with the money he stole from Gotham Hospitals)

  30. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I'm quite amazed someone hates Batman THIS much. Did Kevin Conroy frick your dad or something?

  31. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder in the comic of Under the Hood Jason never gave Bruce a gun. He just told Bruce to kill either Joker or Jason and after 3 seconds’ thought Bruce used his batarang to kill Jason.

  32. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty anti semetic of you, OP

  33. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Bruce made a device that perfectly clones your body making you immortal using it to become Batman permanently and never thought to use this to help Barbara get a new spine.

  34. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay bro we get it you don't like Batman. No need to be overly butthurt about him.

  35. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Supergirl sold Bruce a kryptonian cure to all earthly diseases for 100 million dollars on the condition he use it to help the world’s medical sector.
    Beuce has kept it to himself ever since and not let anybody touch it or know about it.

  36. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The annual budget for Chicago is over 10 billion dollars. I don’t think the people making these threads realize how insanely expensive things are, even a super billionaire like Bruce Wayne couldn’t fund the essential services of a massive city for very long before becoming penniless.

    (And that’s ignoring that stopping someone from blowing up the city will always be worth more than any charity work he could do)

  37. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Clark gave Bruce the only piece of Platinum Kryptonite in existence which gives you all of Superman’s powers without a need to recharge for sunlight. Instead of lifting the world into a new Superman age, bruce kept it to himself locked inside one of his desk drawers

  38. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Bruce can and has created technology to warp reality across all of planet earth yet has never thought to do this to benefit anyone outside of fighting aliens

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      good, frick aliens

  39. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Bruce spends dozens of billions of dollars on each single one of his suits he uses to beat up the Justice League and also he spent dozens of billions on his own lunar mission to build a batcave on the moon (all of this money is stolen from Gotham’s public services)

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that from Endgame?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ambiguous statement, does he mean that the suit costs more than what any one nation in the bottom 60% of military expenditure has spent or does he mean it costs as much as the bottom 60% combined?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair being able to restrain Superman in case he snaps is way more important than the lives entire homeless population of Gotham (see: Injustice series).

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Justice League, including Superman who was being controlled by Joker Venom, was being corrupted by the Joker and Batman had to literally stop the Joker from killing all of Gotham with a Zombie Outbreak afterwards, and successfully did so.

      I don't know about you guys, but Bruce Wayne, just being Bruce Wayne isn't going to stop Gotham and World Ending events. So the "outrage" of the cost of being Batman seems so oddly placed when him being Batman, and all the gadgets that he uses such as his suits and vehicles, saves millions of lives from certain death.

      Tini and Zdarsky are moronic current political wienersuckers who are poorly writing a "all billionaires are bad" story, against Bruce Wayne, the billionaire philanthropist who also saves Gotham from city ending events and works with the Justice League in stopping World Ending events too with both his cash and his vigilante work.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Batman the Gotham vigilante and Batman the Justice Leaguer have never really meshed together. You're never going to see any "socially conscious" story bring up the fact that Bruce has contributed to saving the whole world.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah i feel like however you score someone, saving the entire world from dying is going to be worth a bit more than donating all your wealth to charity
        These criticisms never make sense when batman isn’t just beating people up, but saving thousands, millions, or billions of people’s lives from certain death

  40. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Canon.

  41. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fricking Lego Batman
    At least he admits he's not serious.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Joker War confirmed it in the comic, no matter how hatd you seethe and cry about it little baby

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're resorting to Lego Batman to make Batman look dumb

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’m pointing out that the exact same thing Lego Batman JOKED about, canon Bruce ACTUALLY DID.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looks more like you're using baby media to try and prove you're not a baby about how a billionaire ninja furry's charity contributions make him worse than Hitler

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I literally just proved that Bruce canonically STOLE 100 billion dollars that are supposed to go to charity and now you’re sticking your fingers in your ears like a baby anout what happened in the literalmcanon comic.
              Keep crying manbaby, it’s still canon that Bruce commited embezzlement fraud

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is DC man. That money would have gone towards Amanda Waller’s latest team of fricking lunatics anyway.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                You just said the 100 billion was his personal money and that he hid it so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on it. Ergo he never stole it from charity because it never donated it. On top of that, Bruce's wealth comes from dividends on his ownership stake in Wayne Enterprises which would be taxed at the qualified dividend rate of 20%. The IRS would already be aware of his income because they'd receive a Form 1099-DIV direct from Wayne Enterprises for issuing a dividend over $10 dollars.

                This is DC man. That money would have gone towards Amanda Waller’s latest team of fricking lunatics anyway.

                I can't imagine how bloated Task Force X's budget is at this point.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's the money he collected by hiding it from the services it is supposed to go to and keeping it for himself
                It is all kinds of illegal and would land you irl with more than half a century of jailtime

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                How was it supposed to go services if it was never donated? It's not illegal to not donate. It's not illegal to renege on a donation either.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's not about being donated, it's about that money being taxed and those taxes going to public services like charities.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The money would already be taxed, as the IRS is preemptively informed of dividends paid over $10 by the issuer. Unless the IRS somehow didn't notice what would be an exceptionally obvious and open case of not filing taxes.

                No. On the contrary Death Metal showed someone just like that and he turned Gotham into a Utopia (until Batkek leaped universes and killed him)

                So what you're saying is that a Bruce Wayne who dedicated himself to politics and fixing poverty was killed by a rampaging supervillain?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                They literally didn't notice, because Bruce was keeping it hidden under false names and under dummy companies, which you would know if you actually read the damn comic.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you trying to say Bruce Wayne kept the dividends he would get paid a secret
                Do you know how dividends work

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know how comics work?
                Because that's what he did. He ran a "shadowy network of shell accounts" specifically so none of it was taxed, and once Lucius got the money he said if any of it is every traced back to Bruce the IRS is gonna recollect all of it.
                Don't blame me if you don't understand any of it, blame the comics that you didn't read.

  42. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a suprisingly good summary of it. What Bruce did is ridiculously illegal and ridiculously immoral, beyond just regular tax fraud it's stealing out of investors' pockets which are not just rich folks but regular Cinemaphile mcdonalds workers trying to make a buck

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i would end poverty
        Fricking HOW

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Using his supertech to better crop production and end lobbying instead of building batsuits and batcars

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >better crop production
            How would this end poverty
            Do you think someone in West Baltimore is on welfare because of poor crop production?
            >end lobbying
            1. Literally how? By lobbying for it with his money?
            2. How would this have literally any effect on poverty?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              By allowing for countries to be able to provide for themselves without subsisting off a reliance on Producer Economies.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is an incoherent response

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's not, you just have zero rebuttal. The world economy currently subsists off of keeping foreign states wartorn and impoverished so that they remain in the primary industries because unfortunately other countries do not have the resources to be entirely independent. Batman's scifi tech could fix that in a day, yet he does nothing.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Countries are not poor just because they have low crop production you fricking moron
                And “fixing poverty” in another country would do nothing to stop crime in Gotham
                What the frick is this argument

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Amazing. You're stupid, immature, AND you have zero reading comprehension where it's inconvenient for you. Countries are poor when they lack resources, and when other countries keep them poor. Other countries keep them poor when they need their resources. Batman has the technology to end all scarcity of every resource. Food, oil, power, materials.
                He doesn't share it because he's rather use his scifi tech to punch mental patients.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Batman has the technology to end all scarcity
                Dude what are you talking about

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Death Metal showed he can create reality warping devices so powerful he can shift the earth's continents into a giant bat-symbol for fun.
                Tynion JL showed he can create supersuits that can mindrape the entire earth at once and perform alchemy on a global scale.
                Supergirl sold him a cure to all earthly diseases. He has the only piece of kryptonite that gives you Superman's powers forever. He keeps a cloning machine in his basement.
                Do you seriously need me to list every example of his scifi tech? Only reason you don't know about them is because he only uses them to punch mental patients instead of helping people.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >uses them to punch mental patients instead of helping people
                If that were the case, he'd run out of mental patients rather soon.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Batman's scifi tech could fix that in a day
                Batman's technology is barely anything impressive in the grand scheme of DC.
                You may as well ask why STAR labs hasn't cured cancer yet.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Batman is canonically the smartest person in DC as of Death Metal. He built a robot batman that defeated the justice league and took over the earth.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Congratulations, you had just discovered "Reed Richards is Useless" trope.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Batman is canonically the smartest person in DC
                Then is Lucius Fox his diversity hire or something?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Comparative advantage in action i guess

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                lucius' only job now is to own the money that used to Bruce's

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                And what was his job before? Why did Bruce ever need him if he's the smartest man in the world? Lex Luthor does just fine on his own.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                to do business while Batman is busy beating up Lex

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why don't you just put the whole WORLD in a BOTTLE, Batman?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Remember that time Green Lantern started to fix every problem in the entire world all by himself and Superman came up to him and said that same line and commanded him to stop and he literally did?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous
          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, but murder and rape is still gonna be a thing.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              They proportionally reduce with higher gdp
              batman should better the economy not punch the mentally vulnerable

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >punch the mentally vulnerable
                This has never made sense to me as a criticism. Do people think Batman just headhunts innocent schizophrenics? Is someone is threatening to blow up the city should he just let them because they’re mentally ill?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                They wouldn't be threatening to blow up anything if Batman donated to mental health services

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        If Bruce gave all $100 billion dollars to everyone below the poverty measure in the USA it would amount to a single payment of $2403.61. That's slightly less than 2.5 times the median wage in America. Two and a half weeks worth of pay. If we restrict it to just Gotham City and assume 10 million population with the poverty rate mirroring the national rate, 12.4 percent, that gets us a single payment of $80,645.16, equivalent to 18 months worth of national median wages.

  43. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Were all these "Why doesn't Batman run the city" threads we've had lately made by the same schizo that's obsessed with Joker War?
    Jesus Christ man, Batman is a fictional fricking character, he's not real, he's as honest or corrupt as the writer makes him, it's not healthy to seethe about a fricking comic so much. Go seethe about Trump on Xwitter like most normalgays if you must.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      People on Twitter aren’t normal either, dude.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like it

      I literally just proved that Bruce canonically STOLE 100 billion dollars that are supposed to go to charity and now you’re sticking your fingers in your ears like a baby anout what happened in the literalmcanon comic.
      Keep crying manbaby, it’s still canon that Bruce commited embezzlement fraud

      Lemme be frank, Skippy, your proof is from a Tynion book, which had to go out of its way to introduce the retcon of there being offshore bank accounts for Batman in order to facilitate the plotline to have it all stolen from him. That shit is as 'canon' as Batman outright funding Batman Incorporated with his own money as its known sponsor, as in it existed only for the second that it needed to in order to drive their stupid stories forward before stopping to exist by next month. Meaning that no, I don't believe Bruce Wayne committed embezzlement fraud because it's such a moronic out of character behavior for him based on decades of his activities saying otherwise that I'll take that over your own bleating whimpers of how Batman is the criminal while Selina is the yaaasqueenslay true heroine.

  44. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superheros are a baby outdated concept.

  45. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Money won't solve the problems of Gotham when the a certain demographic living in Gotham are equivalent to 3rd world savages. All that pollution and chemical waste might have something to do with that.

  46. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Batman just kill Poverty?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Batman should rape Poverty, just like Crime did to his parents in the dark alleyway

  47. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically, the anti-bat schizo is one of the biggest Batman wankers I've ever seen on Cinemaphile. He unironically thinks Batman could just effortlessly bring about world peace if he simply chose to.
    Not even Supergays are that crazy.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      is it really just one guy

  48. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn’t we just have a whole event where Batman visits a parallel Earth with a Bruce Wayne who dedicated himself to politics and fixing poverty, and he got killed by rampaging supervillains?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. On the contrary Death Metal showed someone just like that and he turned Gotham into a Utopia (until Batkek leaped universes and killed him)

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      We did. Hell, the same event made it a point that in a world where Batman never existed, the dude who became the Joker still felt the need to destroy the lives of countless millions solely so he could live up to his wet dream of being a sociopathic serial killer, proving that everyone who has ever said Batman created the Joker is full of shit since now Joker literally created the Joker.

  49. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why does Batman just not use his wealth to solve the root causes of crime
    Whoa! Calm down with the racism, OP.

  50. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing how insecure people infest the internet. No one wonder America will be destroyed.

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