Why does Batman keep letting the Joker escape prison, continually run around and murder people while constantly putting the entire city in danger instead of just ending him?
Why does Batman keep letting the Joker escape prison, continually run around and murder people while constantly putting the entire city in danger inst...
Why does the Joker get the insanity plea despite not being eligible for it according to real life rules, get sent to the same place he breaks out of, and isn't put to death immediately? No, the problem isn't the vigilante already doing the justice system's job, it's the justice system itself that's the problem.
Joker is protected by his in-universe lawyers, Tom Taylor and Brian Michael Bendis
I've really wanted to write a story about this lately but I don't think anyone would be interested in the "Joker's Legal Team" comic
I don't really see how anyone could write even a semi-serious comic on that topic. There would be too many asspulls for anyone to buy into.
No joke, I've never heard the death penalty be brought up in any Batman media besides Arkham Origins.
Funny enough, we see a guy executed via gas chamber on Superman TAS.
Gotham probably doesn't have the death penalty. Neither New York or New Jersey have it in real life.
Joker committed crimes in the federal scale that he would be locked at DC-Guantanamo hundred times over.
Gotham does have the death penalty. Joker was going to be executed for a crime he didm't commit (Devil's Advocate) and there's a Batgirl (Cassandra) comic where the reader is shown Gotham's death row. Granted, all of that might have been shifted after Flashpoint.
That one is on Jeph Loeb. Chuck Dixon put Joker in the Slab to try and reduce his use (before that he and Denny O'Neil had talked about legally springing Joker out and make him a more lowkey criminal like they had done with Penguin, making him a bit tamer, but that was derailed by No Man's Land).
Greg Rucka's run followed Dixon's wishes and showed Joker still in the Slab, but when Loeb wrote the Hush arc he just showed Joker back in Arkham without explanation and every other writer after him followed suit.
Seriously. People who want Superheroes to kill villains just want someone else to take all the responsibility of dealing with criminals out of their hands.
It's children and manchildren. You're supposed to get more mature, and stop thinking murder is cool.
not that much into DC but shouldnt Joker at one point just be sent somewhere else other than Arkham?
Marvel has all these prisons build for special super villians like the Cube or The Raft
frick why doesnt Batman just throw him into the Phantom Zone
There was The Slab in Antartica. Naturally, Joker eventually escaped.
...Yeah?
People read superhero comics for the fantasy of an individual saving the day and stopping the bad guys, when the regular police and the rest of the system either can't or won't.
Where did you get lost?
Batman's no-kill rule makes him a distinct and compelling character, but it's neurotic, not noble.
New Jersey had the death penalty until like 2007. The death penalty was a thing in Cassandra Cain's Batgirl run, and also The Killing Joke, Death in the Family, etc.
Also Joker is a turbo federal and international terrorist. He should be drone striked.
Being this late and missing the point? Wow, anon. And in case you were wondering, the point was to counter the usual "why doesn't Batman kill the Joker" thread.
>New Jersey had the death penalty until like 2007. The death penalty was a thing
Sliding timeline. New 52 batman started fighting crime in 2006.
Also gotham while being in New Jersey doesn't follow every law of real life New Jersey. For all we know they could outlawed the death penalty years before our New Jersey did.
He is a gay
Technically Batman doesn't let Joker escape, it's Arkhan security that is lame. Now why they keep sending a mass murderer to the same municipal asylum over and over... beats me, guess Gotham City is ruled by some city-state legislation
"When you kill a killer..." and all that.
No one said the Joker had to be killed.
Cut his nerve trunks and leave him as paraplegic or in an iron lung.
Too cruel and unusual?
Then build him a comfortable home equipped with supplies for a lifetime and ask Superman to drop it into the depths of Saturn.
There are NO in-universe reasons to let him continue the cycle. As a character though, this BS will continue so long as DC exists.
Joker is connected to a multiversal force of chaos. So essentially if they did that, then a genocidal alien would make its way to his prison, release him, and give him some kind of advanced weaponry, and Joker would kill thousands.
Why does it HAVE to be Batman why can't the rest of Gotham's community step up?
Stop making this thread anon. It is the city's fault for not keeping him behind bars, not Batman's fault for catching him.
It’s a moral lesson of what would happen if you’re weak enough to sacrifice all your heroism just to give in to petty human revenge. Batman is not you, Batman does not have the same weakness as you, Batman is BETTER THAN YOU.
If you kill The Joker, you BECOME The Joker.
Read Injustice and see what happens when a weaker man is put in Bruce’s position. He would break like glass. Be better. Be a chad like Batman.
Yikes
t.Battroony
>literally just the "if you kill him, you'll be as bad as him" argument
I hate that shit in media
have a nice day.
At this point it's not even Batman's fault but the fault of the entire superhuman community and government. There are like hundreds of heroes in USA, some of them on government's payroll, who can steamroll Gotham's entire criminal population in one night. Why doesn't government just blockade Gotham for a week and send in, I dunno, Major Force or Suicide Squad, to exterminate every supervillain bottled in?
Because Batman is incredibly super-autistic about how NOBODY is allowed to fix his city but him. No other superhero wants to put up with that.
I know, but what are the chances that literally every superhero in USA, every anti-hero, mercenary and US government itself gives a shit about what Batman wants or thinks? More than that, If someone like Superman, GL or Flash spontaneously decided to clean up Gotham without any warning, what the frick is Batman even going to do to stop them? But at least these guys respect Batman and his boundaries. What about government lapdogs like Captain Atom or Major Force? Hell, what's Batman gonna do if government issues a kill order and a puts a bounty on Joker's head? And heads of every other dangerous super-psycho in Gotham? Is he going to fight the police, federal agents and bounty hunters just to protect his villains from getting merked?
He did literally this in No Man's Land and it was moronic. The worst part of that run. Probably the best part was when Jim was gonna blow Joker's fricking head off and Batman just said "I won't stop you."
Found the page.
LOL
Source?
Cucka forever seething.
Yeah, honestly making the Joker canonically unkillable is the best explanation.
IIRC, Rucka wanted to kill Harvey Bullock instead because for some reason he has a hateboner against Harvey.
He'd written a feint in early No Man's Land where Bullock is almost killed by a mob, then wrote him off the Batbooks in Officer Down so he wouldn't be in Gotham Central out of one arc, and I don't remember if Rucka wrote that one or Brubaker did.
Brubaker wrote the Bullock arc, though it wasn't very flattering to him.
Loeb just walks into comic companies with big dick energy.
>I'm using Batgirl
>Oh our new Batgirl? Perfect!
>What the frick, why isn't she a redhead?
> She's a new Batgirl! She's an asian girl named Cas-
>Frick that, I'll just do a flashback sequence.
>He did literally this in No Man's Land and it was moronic.
It wasn't moronic given that the United States went through the same exact thing with Afghanistan decades later. You can't just come into a place, beat all the "bad guys", and expect the culture to change and to be welcomed as liberators.
In universe, they'd just be replaced. As stupid as this sounds, Gotham is cursed ground and breeds evil. If you'd kill them all, they'd just be replaced.
Better idea. Do that, but also put a 100 billion dollar bounty of Joker's head.
Then all the villains will want in too. Even the most delusional of Batwankers don't think Batman could stop every non rich villain, every government hero, and every standing army member. Unless Clark tags in.
>Batman, Joker
That's a funny way of spelling Sonic and Eggman, OP.
Sonic doesn't kill Eggman because it's very likely Eggman has a dead man's switch if he dies that'd just say "If I lose, everybody loses" and destroy the planet. Eggman doesn't just assassinate Sonic because he wants to humiliate him (and also because Eggman and Sonic's feud is an allegory for man's endless struggle to master primordial chaos).
>and also because Eggman and Sonic's feud is an allegory for man's endless struggle to master primordial chaos
Anon it’s a fat roosevelt parody trying to squish a Felix the Cat wannabe, whose entire personality consists of cringy 90s catchphrases, using his toy bug robots.
Go outside.
I'm aware of their origins but Sonic is also canonically an avatar of primordial chaos and eggman is (In many but not all depictions) a lone human man attempting to conquer nature with technology.
>but Sonic is also canonically an avatar of primordial chaos
He’s literally not, you made all that shit up because it sounded cool inside your head.
It’s fricking Mickey Mouse but blue. There’s nothing else to it.
As much as i hate it. He is in the Archie comics.
Well, that's what Eggman believes.
First of all, the Archie comics are not canon. Well done for having to lie to yourself to make your Mickey Mouse self-insert look cool inside your head.
Second of all, he isn't even within Archie. Eggman theorised that continued exposure to chaos emeralds gave him canon plot armor, he's not an "avatar" of jack-shit. He got irradiated by magic stones.
Third of all, it was never once implied anywhere in S3&K, or Adventure, or Adventure 2. That's called a "headcanon", and you, are called a "low-functioning autistic".
>Third of all, it was never once implied anywhere in S3&K
>Literally the being of prophecy in the ancient Angel Island mural using the power of the Master Emerald.
>Sonic Adventure
Tikal literally goes to Sonic, not Knuckles, to use the power of the emeralds to seal Chaos.
>Adventure 2.
Chaos Control is decisively an ability only harnessed by creatures intentionally designed using chaos energy, and Sonic is able to harness chaos energy using a fake Emerald. And it's not like she doesn't know who Knuckles is or that he's her long-removed relative and the guardian of the master emerald: She still specifically asks Sonic to do it.
Whoops, formatted post poorly.
>And it's not like she doesn't know who Knuckles is or that he's her long-removed relative and the guardian of the master emerald: She still specifically asks Sonic to do it.
Is about Tikal, not Chaos Control.
That's because in Modern only Sonic has the power to go Super Sonic you braindead morbidly obese twit, not because he's "muh heckin embodiment of nature'd cosmic primordial chaos given physical form I have never felt the touch of a woman".
>Chaos Control is decisively an ability only harnessed by creatures intentionally designed using chaos energy
This is bullshit you made up in your mentally arrested head as well, and has never been said anywhere in the entire series. Black Doom uses Chaos Control in Shadow 05. Imperator Ix uses Chaos Control in Chronicles. Robots use chaos control constantly throughout the series. Knuckles uses chaos control in Runners. The Metarex use chaos control in X. I could go on.
Tldr, Touch some Grass.
>in Modern only Sonic has the power to go Super Sonic
This isn't even true, Knuckles and Tails both have super states in modern sonic, as do Silver and Shadow.
> Black Doom uses Chaos Control in Shadow 05. Imperator Ix uses Chaos Control in Chronicles. Robots use chaos control constantly throughout the series. Knuckles uses chaos control in Runners. The Metarex use chaos control in X. I could go on.
Yes, all of those in installments after, others could use it with a chaos emerald: NONE of them could do Chaos Control with a fake emerald.
That literally means nothing. Using a fake chaos emerald isn't a show of ability, it's a show of the fact it functions the same as a real chaos emerald just like Tails said it did. It's certainly not "evidence" that your cerealbox self-insert is somehow an "avatar of primordial chaos" or whatever bullshite you pulled out of your morning dicklet spank-fest.
Shadow used a weaker version of a fake chaos emerald in X just fine. So did the Metarex. Shadow has used Chaos Control without ANY emeralds at all several times. So has Metal Sonic in Heroes. So has Black Doom. So has Silver in Rivals. And Silver can timetravel without need of partner nor chaos emeralds past 06.
Meaning literally every character who can use chaos control is literally better at it than Sonic is.
Now kindly cope and find a better character to live vicariously through.
>Vicariously live through
I don't know if your dad beat you as a child because you grew up in a bing bing wahoo household or something and got caught watching Sonic SatAM or what, but it is clearly set up in the first sonic trilogy and the Adventure games that Sonic's relation to the Chaos Emeralds is special. Whether or not it's dropped in the 20 YEARS since I do not know.
It's also implied in S3&K and also in Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.
I always see people parroting "lol Batman doesn't kill his enemies".
Does ANYBODY pictured here actually intentionally try to kill their enemies?
Hal, Barry, Arthur, Diana and Clark all have at least one instance of killing their enemies on purpose. I think Arthur and Diana did so more than once.
What was Barry? He only killed RF by accident with the whiplash
Did he? I thought he snapped his neck out of desperation and on purpose. Must have misremembered then, my bad.
He's in love with him. He'd even cut his adopted son's throat for trying to do the responsible thing of killing the Joker.
>Joker is a mass murderer
>more than one story proved to be a threat beyond Earth's borders
Tell me again why Green Lantern didn't scoped him yet to Oa and locked him in a sciencell
>Hal went after costumed crooks in his home town but never addressed the mass murder that is killing thousands in this alloted space sector and more than once threatened other dimensions and planets
Joker should never had became nothing more than a crime boss with a clown theme...
>Joker should never had became nothing more than a crime boss with a clown theme...
this is the root of the problem, really. he should not be a mass murderer or a terrorist (not like batman doesn't already have serial killers and terrorists more apt for for those stories)
>Joker should never had became nothing more than a crime boss with a clown theme...
Escalation of stakes and power levels is a b***h. The curse of existing in a shared universe is a massive b***h as well. Many of these problems would be solved if Gotham existed in a world otherwise devoid of superbeings.
It's how he can justify dressing up at night as a flying rat, while spending exorbitant amounts of money on weird little gadgets to help him beat up mentally handicapped people. God forbid he just go see a therapist like a normal person.
Batman is not the problem. Gotham's (and by extension the US) justice system is. If you still let a man who poisoned the entire world away from the gas chamber then you're the problem. There's one universe where Batman's world finally approved the cryojail treatment and Gotham has been peaceful ever since. Don't blame Batman because he doesn't want to kill. If you want Joker die then apply for Arkham guard job and shoot the motherfricker and take that prison time like a champ.
>take that prison time like a champ
As if any jury would find you guilty
I was going to give a longer reply but this thread is filled with people who obviously don’t know what they’re talking about plus I already responded to a similar thread like this.
Based.
Better question:
Why do gays like OP keep asking this?
Attention for their empty life. It's guaranteed (You)s.
>When someone tried to get the job done.
source?
>Why does Batman
99% of Super Heroes have the no-kill-rule and "let" their enemies excape.
These threads are the embodiment of redditors and other tourists talking about shit they have no idea of.
He loves him. Next question.
>Gotham police are irreparably corrupt
>None of them have shot the Joker while they had him in custody
Joker has threatened everyone on Earth (Last Laugh crossover) and even everyone in the DCU (Emperor Joker).
This includes everyone in the legal system, the criminal underworld, all other superheroes and every other supervillain.
The question is why does EVERYONE lets him live. Even if you're going to whine 'Batman would save him', Batman can't babysit him 24/7 (otherwise, Joker wouldn't pull any crimes) and can't protect him against literally everyone else in the planet and beyond.
Everyone in DC is in love with the Joker. Stop singling Batman out.
>Umpteenth why won't Batman kill the Joker thread becomes Sonic autism thread
Is this a change for the better or worse?