Why does it feel different? What changed?
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They rerender that intro animation all the time, OP.
you grew up. pixar was always shit.
>It was always bad
that's just a cope by people who can't put any actual thought into why something that used to be good doesn't appeal to people anymore
How much stuff do you still like from when you were a kid anon? Did you really like crap like A Bug's Life and Cars?
Yes
Nah I rewatch The incredibles 1, Ratatouille and Up as an adult and they are okay, entertaining at least, right now I can't watch a modern Pixar film without immediately wanting to change the TV channel
Wrong
You're straight up wrong homie.
The classic Pixar fills still hold up to this day and even their more mediocre output from the late 2000s/early 2010's is enjoyable.
Their contemporary output is soulless, it's completely lacking in every regard to it's predecessor.
It kept going. Trying to produce a film every year or so will take a toll on your creative team, especially when they require a high sense of quality. Eventually the writing or the animation will suffer as they chase after their own quota.
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>What changed?
Their directors, animators, and writers.
No Lasseter
>Pixar 1995 - 2012 : 0 movies with a teenager as the protagonist
>Pixar 2013 - 2022 : more than half of the movies were about teenager protagonist
Meh, with Pixar it's hard to tell if characters are meant to be teens or young adults because they use anthro characters in most of their films. I think you could say that Violet and Dash count as teens unambiguously because they're humans that go to school.
teens are young adults
Only 8 post 2012 Pixar movies were not sequels or spin-offs
of those 8 original movies 5 had a teenager as the main character
the point is teen characters are usually way worse than adults, their archetypes are way more limited even if we not include the inevitable blandness added to be a self insert for their audience
Early Pixar: Lasseter, who needed to prove to big dogs like Disney that he was skilled, in charge who had his fingers in every pot of production and micromanaged the shit out of the films to ensue it was up to his own standard of quality while employing talented storytellers like Pete Doctor and Brad Bird to help him out.
Late Pixar: Lasseter is now managing Disney since they're a shell of their former selves and must focus on making money while not being able to channel his creative side anymore and probably feeling very egotistical in his position of now being in charge of the studio that once threw him out, causing him to not try as hard.
Now that Pete Doctor is letting less skilled artists "tell their story" on a $150 mil budget while stepping down from directing himself and Brad Bird has no plans to work at Pixar again, it's nothing but downhill from here. They're going to be a Disney 2.0 where sometimes they pump out an interesting movie and sometimes they don't.
What is next for Brad Bird?
retirement
making a sci-fi animated film at Skydance
You grew up, 3D CGI is no longer this cutting edge frontier, now its the status qou so theirs no wow factor anymore
>1995 : Toy Story/Pocahontas, A Goofy Movie, Balto, Peeble and the Penguin
>1998 : Bug's Life/Mulan, Prince of Egypt, Rugrats film, Quest for Camelot
>1999 : Toy Story 2/Tarzan, Iron Giant, South Park BLU, Doug's 1st Movie
>2001 : Monsters Inc/Atlantis, Osmosis Jones, Recess film
>2003 : Finding Nemo/Brother Bear, Sinbad, Jungle Book 2, Rugrats Go Wild
>2004 : The Incredibles/Home on the Range, Spongebob film, Teacher's Pet
indeed. Early Pixar films were released back when theatrical 2D western films were the rule instead of the exception. Pixar stood out more as a result
>Disney buys Pixar
>Disney takes Lasseter away from Pixar
>Disney forces Pixar to make movies led by unknowns
>Disney forces Pixar to release more movies per year, stretching them thin
>Disney forces Pixar to make more sequels/prequels
>Disney forces Pixar to be experimental while Disney makes safe movies with songs and princesses
>Disney forces Pixar movies to streaming while their own movies are in theaters
Stop asking this stupid question
>Disney forces Pixar to be experimental while Disney makes safe movies with songs and princesses
Here's exactly where your moron fully kicked in, btw.
Pixar isn't exactly making things that are known to be mainstream when they're announce.
90% of the key story players that were involved with making the 90s/2000s films what they were no longer work there, and the people who currently do are from a generation that grew up on these early films and represent a completely different climate of what animation should be striving for.
This is the only answer you should take seriously, because it is the correct one.
>What changed
Literally the staff
Them. ...and you
Basically this. Part of myazakis point is that everything is super derivitave, and is trying to emulate another work, instead of coming from an organic creativity that only comes when the creator goes out and interacts with the real world. Like how foundation orginal of zelda games came from miyamoto exploring caves and forests as a kid, vs most modern dungeon crawlers are built on the experiences of someone who sat on their ass and played zelda games for formatige years.
Shit, forgot pic related
Also a Cinemaphile example would be almost every adult animated comedy is trying to co-opt family guy, but family guy was made from McFarlanes experience growing up in new england and the kinda people who lived there.
Yeah I used to think he was just being a pretentious fart sniffer but I kind of get it now; when you actually EXPERIENCE things and get autistically introspective on it, that's where originality is formed. You're trying to express the experience in a unique way that hasn't been done before. When all you experienced is vidya games, all you can make is nostalgia bait trying to recapture your experience of it but with all the new bells and whistles.
Ratatouille was their first misstep imo. Not very good as a whole
>What changed?
Same thing that has finger fricked all forms of media in the last 10 years. It got woke.
I'm sure it's all a complete coincidence and has nothing to do with leftists.
All the original animators, writers and directors have been replaced by clueless hacks and Zoomers
That's just the nature of studios like this, over time the people that made it popular to begin with either retire or leave for other companies and the new hires don't fill the shoes they were left so in like a decade all that's really left is the branding. Sort of a Ship of Theseus situation.
Diversity
They purged Lasseter for trying to make the movies good
They lost their edge. Their grit.
Ironicall, Katzenberg may have been responsible for it
PIXAR MUST RESET THE STANDARDS OF ANIMATED FILMS. THEY MUST FINISH THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER. PETE DOCTER AND ALEXANDER WILLIAMS WILL DIRECT THE PROJECT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gows7iOoqaU
Richard williams had a son who could draw?
he animated the iconic zigzag the grand vizier wolk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWKhSfERj9o
They chucked out Lasseter and got a bunch of no talent homosexuals.
Older stuff was developed by a core creative team of classically trained animators, artists, and writers who knew the fundamentals. Because the technology was still developing, those original teams had to make sure the cores of the stories told functioned properly to make up for any shortcomings in the animation. Modern Pixar is now a generation or two in and the new blood basically just get trained to use 3D tools first so they rely on it to do everything since there are no limits. Basically ideas that would’ve been scrapped back in the day for dragging the plot or being too hard to animate are now more likely to make it through to the final product. Plus new writers don’t really know the fundamentals of story telling and simply copy the whole cloth of older works, so new Pixar just feels like a blander xerox of older Pixar where emotional moments are robotically placed at key intervals for maximum audience tears, instead of being where they’re most appropriate.
Lassiter was a micromanaging butthole that made it a fricking nightmare to work there. But it looks like his efforts did pay off. The movies were genuinely better when he was there.