Why does no one ever talk about the best gundams designs from 00 Season 1?
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Why does no one ever talk about the best gundams designs from 00 Season 1?
Why does no one ever talk about the best gundams designs from 00 Season 1?
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because their souls are weighted down by gravity
much like 80% of Washio's designs after 00. Can't believe same person made this beauty and B*rbatos
I talk about them, I love all the Thrones
We do, do you see how much fricking love Exia constantly gets?
No one cares about that trash.
The Thrones were literal trash tier.
>"I have a rifle on my shoulder!"
>"I'm an edgelord with a huge sword and funnels!"
>"I'm... a battery for my friends!"
The only one of the three that wasn't a bore was Zwei, and Arche blows it out of the water.
No, the thrones are all peak gundam design.
can you explain what makes either of these statements true?
Design-wise, the Thrones are just ugly and bland once you take away the specialized equipment. They all have the same basic body, with customized heads and little more. Even taking into account the in-story explanation that it's for efficiency and secrecy, the only part of them that really stands out are the legs, the torso and arms don't stand out compared to the main hero suits. The customized heads are mostly generic, with the exception of Drei which for some dumb fricking reason is shaped like a xenomorph skull.
In terms of aesthetics and functionality, all but Zwei fall short, but frankly any MS that's made for close combat is hard to mess up in the design phase. Aesthetics-wise this is mostly on purpose since they can't outshine the hero suits in their own show, and when given his own show to work on Washio knocked it out of the park with the IBO designs.
>Design-wise, the Thrones are just ugly and bland
Subjective
What exactly makes them "ugly"?
>They all have the same basic body, with customized heads and little more
This necessarily makes them bad? They are part of a series
>don't stand out
again, subjective
>The customized heads are mostly generic
Can you prove this?
>pleasing to look at
Also subjective
>more functional
What makes them functional and the celestial Being suits not?
You two are taking the exact same observed characteristics and saying opposite things.
Either one of you is right or neither of you are. Since both of your appeals/arguments are on subjective grounds it would seem reasonable to say that neither of you are.
gee whiz almost like this is a subjective topic
The question of "the best" is not subjective. It's a discourse over an answer which IS ultimately objective.
If that is the metric by which you measure then the Quanta is the best since its performance eclipses every unit in the franchise. You could even argue for the interstellar EVA units by this logic.
>He draws with a consideration towards "cool" and "menacing", rather than any consideration towards functionality, even for the toyetic standards of robot anime.
That makes them ugly? Why?
>Look here: the upper and lower leg look entirely different, as if they came from different machines altogether. And why are the chest vents so prominent? What's the point of those gigantic heels?
You're simply describing how the machine looks and what that means to you, you're not doing any sort of analysis on what would supposedly make it "ugly" were that to even be some sort of objective term.
Yes, the leg sections are more annular while the upper sections are more angular, but what about this makes the machine necessarily "ugly"? That's the question you're failing to answer. If anything the subtle contrast in the design aesthetically displays the treacherous intent and purpose of the trio. Is that necessarily bad?
>The question of "the best" is not subjective.
since the topic is which looks the best, it absolutely is. Trying to say otherwise is like arguing there is an objective answer to whether cherries or berries are better.
>since the topic is which looks the best, it absolutely is
Except looks clearly exist and have observable properties. Proper appraisal is based upon what can be known certainly of them, not our subjective electrochemical reactions to these things.
If you mean to have a contention at all then you were arguing over an objective truth. If it is truly subjective then there is no question, or contention, or even discussion. Clearly, your appeal to subjectivity is backpedaling since you could never prove your point to begin with.
Arguing that this entire exchange is subjective is not substantial at all, it's a thought-terminating cliche ("in matters of taste there is no dispute")
This matter is not of taste but of superiority, as established by OP
gotta give you credit, you're putting a lot of effort into trolling
Just interested in having a genuine discussion
Are you not interested in that?
>The Thrones fall into an uncanny valley with their "not quite fully humanoid nor too much of a machine" aesthetics, plus silly details like the fricking heels
I don't see what makes them bad, nor do I see how the heels are necessarily "silly" or bad either. You seem to acknowledge that as well if you like the Varanus so much.
Regardless of all this, I've always been partial to the GNX series
To make it clear,
and
are two different people. Anyway...
>Yes, the leg sections are more annular while the upper sections are more angular, but what about this makes the machine necessarily "ugly"? That's the question you're failing to answer. If anything the subtle contrast in the design aesthetically displays the treacherous intent and purpose of the trio. Is that necessarily bad?
The Thrones fall into an uncanny valley with their "not quite fully humanoid nor too much of a machine" aesthetics, plus silly details like the fricking heels. For what it's worth, I think the coloring is not doing the designs any favors, especially Eins' excrement tones.
Varanus is one of my favorite robot designs, period. While I can kvetch about the tiny waist, those absurd long-nailed claw fingers and the fricking heels, this design actually feels like a development prototype.
The tubes make it feel like an ultralight or possibly a jungle gym. There's something charming about it, though.
>The Thrones fall into an uncanny valley with their "not quite fully humanoid nor too much of a machine" aesthetics,
but that's a good thing
>If that is the metric
That's why I said S1 in the OP.
The post I responded to said "peak"
>What makes them functional and the Celestial Being suits not?
The CB suits need cables to transfer particles while the Thrones send then through the interior of the armor, which is what ALL S2 units do.
>What exactly makes them "ugly"?
Washio's approach to shapes. He draws with a consideration towards "cool" and "menacing", rather than any consideration towards functionality, even for the toyetic standards of robot anime.
Look here: the upper and lower leg look entirely different, as if they came from different machines altogether. And why are the chest vents so prominent? What's the point of those gigantic heels?
>functionality
>giant humanoid gundumb powered by literal pixy dust
Never change autis/m/os
They are overall better designed by being more pleasing to look at and more functional than the trash CB gundams.
I hated the druggies in SEED and I hated these three pukes and their hideous Gundams in 00 as well.
Good thing they killed them soon.
I like them but the best S1 designs are clearly the mass production suits like tierens and flags.
>don't change the calendar
>appeal to it vigorously