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whys helgas hot mom crying?
or was that her sister?
Sister
>Helga's Mom
man what a sad fricking show
would still frick helga's sister and mother
It's weirder when you later find out she was an olympic hopeful swimmer that got married at 17-18 and never did shit with her life afterward.
She got pregnant, got married, and tried to live vicariously through Olga before falling into depression after Helga was born.
It's my understanding Olympic career prospects, if you failed to reach the Olympics twice, are pretty fricking slim. It's not like there's a serious swimming sports competition in the US for her to slide into.
Even then, for overwhelming majority of people who did go to the Olympics, there is still not much of a career or life for them afterward. Outside of teaching the next generation, it's fall into obscurity for nearly everyone.
You reminded me that I met an olympic gymnast. At a state fair. Doing motocross stunts. Forget his name but I don't think he was a medalist. Even then medalists get what? Maybe sponsorships but only what those sponsers are willing to pay for as long as they're willing to pay it. Potential to coach the sport, and if they repeat enough metals maybe a book deal. But I can't tell you a time other than the olympics where the US gives a damn about gymnastics, muchless male gymnasts. There's markets for the skillset... gymnastics is a precursor or at least a plus for performative dance, and stunt work, but you're not going to see a stage musical advertise "With stuntwork by Olympic Silver Medalist Bobby 'The Jackknife' Jackson".
I will not claim to be an expert but the topic here lead me into brief googling which suggests large gaps in pay viability. Particularly favoring solo athletes, and heavily weighted to the top. I don't know the financing enough to understand if a one time medalist can expect to make enough from endorsements to retire on comfortably. From a financial perspective the effort and investment probably isn't worth the dividends unless you become a medalist or you are in a much more popular sport where there's heavier competition. Of course there are non-monetary rewards: the satisfaction and status symbol for the accomplishment.
she's perfect
y e s
depressed Olga whoring herself for onlyfans is hot as frick
That Beeper Queen episode is really sad; Miriam was genuinely good at running a business and marketing but immediately relapsed into alcoholism the minute she stopped.
Yea that episode just showed she would be WAAAAY better off without Bob and should just divorce him
She could... find something else to do with her time. I don't think she gave a damn about beepers.
Based on what we see in the show, it'd need to be something that takes up most of the day and at least some of the evening but, most importantly, gets her out of those. Clearly Miriam being left alone at home just leads to her backsliding.
Miriam isn't one to do things by halves though so Helga would likely have the same reaction to whatever her new job is that she did to her running Big Bob's.
Hey she's just like my mom!
Olga is just Miriam made over. Considering how well Miriam cleans up even after years of alcoholism, Olga is probably going to keep her looks into her fifties.
being reminded of a concept we discussed a couple years ago that was essentially a "role swap" AU where Helga is the sunny perfectionist wunderkind and Olga is the sarcastic low effort cynic neglected by her family, was a fun concept that we should do more with
>whys helgas hot mom crying?
>or was that her sister?
funny thing is I've seen multiple fanfics within the last year or two go with the idea that Olga is actually Helga's mom and she was the result of a teen pregnancy
But Olga was in college while Helga's in grade-school, with Olga only graduating
while Helga starts high-school. So, assuming Olga was AT LEAST a college sophomore at the start the of show while Helga was 9, she'd be early 20s. So, rewind 9 years, and that would imply Olga got pregnant at 12.
Don't think that's what happened, but if something fricked up DID happen to Olga to cause this, that'd explain why her parents (seemingly) over-focused on her, why she's obsessed with child psychology and being around kids, and why she's so broken as person as an adult.
But that's too fricking dark a can of worms for Hey Arnold to open. Especially since they toyed around the idea of teaching kids about stranger danger through a boarding house member getting to handsy with Arnold but realized it was so fricked up, they just retired the whole character because of the association with the gross idea.
Her parents are over-focuses on Olga because her conception forced them to get married and ruined Miriam's sports career. If Olga is the best, most perfect child ever then it'd be "worth it".
Oh no, that's canonically what happened, I'm sure.
I mean it specifically regarding the idea of Olga somehow being Helga's Mom, with how the in-show events still work it's just way more fricked up rationalizing them.
It's clear Olga and Helga's parents are living vicariously through Olga, and using the pride of her accomplishments as substitutes for their own ambitions, with the Patakis showing they'd just move to Helga as soon as she's seen as the more accomplished one.
It's still really fricking creepy to have a character's plot purpose be to flirt with kids and make them uncomfortable to the point they have to be removed and made the kid feel guilty for not accepting the forward gestures.
It'd be a good plot; not understand what he'd be protected from and feeling guilty would be perfectly realistic.
>it was so fricked up
It's not like the story would have to mean she touches Arnold's dick or something. She goes a little too far and makes Arnold uncomfortable, Grandpa catches on and has an off-screen confrontation with her and she suddenly moves out, leaving Arnold with ambivilent feelings.
Nah, the Patakis are classic wannabe overachievers who place everything on their kids because they view themselves as extra super motivated winners who are not allowed to fail.
They always burn their kids out when they go to college for a year or two and do not have a parent screaming into their eat to outperform every day.
Isn't the sole source for that a personal fan interview that no longer exists if there was ever a video of it? No other staff has ever mentioned it, Bartlett has never mentioned it outside of that, and she wasn't the only character whose role was basically eliminated after the first season.
>So, rewind 9 years, and that would imply Olga got pregnant at 12.
that was the general idea in those fics
because you're incredibly fragile and the slightest flaw in you or your work sends you into a depressive episode for weeks
frick you
Hey big guy that's my wife your talking about
To be completely fair, she was literally getting gaslit by people she trusted whenever shit went wrong in her life.
It's actually super fricked up now that I think about it.
Hey Arnold was, at times, shockingly mature in the messages it was trying to teach. There was the usual family friendly morals and lessons in there, but also stuff like "You can't just keep helping people who are unwilling to help themselves, that's you being taken advantage of" or Olga being gaslit by her family or the real harm that comes from telling a kid that he is stupid over and over until he internalizes it and just stops trying. Hey Arnold was a cartoon written for kids and teenagers that were interacting with the real world and imparted life lessons that you probably were not going to be told by your parents or teachers.
Modern day cartoons frankly don't do enough of that, everything is either culture war bullshit that kids don't have any understanding of or interest in, or 'problems' so fantastical that they have no real life lesson to impart from the resolution. Like, what lesson does any kid learn from watching Amphibia?
I'm trying to remember what the whole situation was with her engagement. I remember the mom getting upset, saying "don't make the same mistake I did"
Then I have a vague memory of a phone call in which it's revealed he has a girlfriend or wife, I forget which. Then Helga threaten to star 69 the other woman so the guy will leave. There's a sad pause and the guy says "you know, I actually did like her"
Now that I'm an adult, I think what happened was guy breaks up with a girl (one of those off and on again relationships) and has sex with Olga. Plga probably being so into her studies never had a guy and just assumed "oh you had sex with me, that must mean you love me, which means we should get married." And the guy was just aort pf stuck in the situation.
He was planning to get as much money out of her and her family as he could and then vanish. The other girl was either his next target or his actual girlfriend.
>Like, what lesson does any kid learn from watching Amphibia
Nothing. Kids would rather watch Overwatch futa SFM, Pewdiepie, Fortnite, a coke addict playing Iron Man or something on D+. Modern cartoons now are for fat millenials, lesbians and beta trogs.
>Modern cartoons now are for fat millenials, lesbians and beta trogs.
Or in the case of Amphibia, beta frogs.
huh?
Judging by posts like
I think most of those messages are going to go over kids heads which is probably why most modern cartoon creators stopped trying.
Not every message reaches everyone, can't help to wonder if anons here were 5 or 12 when they first saw these episodes. For the record I got this. For the record I was the 4th of 6 kids and I was the cutoff where my parents stopped clearly giving fricks. I saw quite a bit of the extreme swings between pressure and neglect.
Off I feel ya there I was the 4th out if 4 kids and I wasn't the good son. My eldest sister had a kid and basically became an older brother to that kid. My parents didn't even really nottice me until my brother died. Than all of my siblings became failures in a way sadly my eldest sister was the typical pregnant teenager in America, my second sister had a break down and has bipolar disorder, than my brother died so yeah… Invecamena but estranged with them moved out and married up. They're not outta my life completely, but I only call once every week or two. That's actually how ingot into cartoons it was a nice escape, since most of the time I was ignored, worst part is the one I was closest with was my older brother even though I basically lived in his shadow.
For my situation everyone older than me was pressured to succeed. While they did every one of them is neurotic. No joke all my older siblings was valedictorian of their highschool class and had stacks of extra curricular. My older brother became a rocket scientist... that doesn't make rockets because he realizes the moral implications of designing weapons and is so socially stunted he checks out of conversations if he thinks he made a faux pas. My oldest sister is a pediatrician... and so emotionally fragile she's had crying fits over realizing a store she passed in the mall was owned by the brother, of her ex-husband's best man that she divorced 11 years ago. My next oldest sister is certified chef, and has been living a life stringing between bad relationships.
I lazed out of everything my parents tried to force onto me. Which mostly choir/voice training. After a point they stopped pushing because they were more invested in my older siblings, and couldn't do much more than trust my conditioning to go along with their demands. I wasn't an AP A+ star student and didn't try college. So far I'm making this real estate job work.
Younger sister never stopped throwing a tantrum she started at age 6. Shes constantly on edge and defaulted to screaming. A habit my parents just ignored growing up. When she was 13 she had to get vocal cord surgery to correct damage she did. Twice because she kept screaming during the recovery period she was told not to talk in. She cut class in highschool to the point she was expelled and just never enrolled again. Little brother got into what passed for a music scene around here. He'd disappear for the weekends and my parents didn't care so long as he physically appeared at school. I'm sure he was on recreational drugs by the time I left, but wasn't dumb enough to bring any home. He graduated just as the pandemic started and still hasn't made any major life moves. I think I foresee the next 5 years of both of their lives.
Damn that’s rough, god things mostly worked out for you particularly though.
Stopping trying is the reason the world is the way it is. I agree with how many non-Whites are currently infesting the West that energy should be spent on extermination rather than artistic integrity, but it's like how Teen Titans Go is a thing now compared to '06 Titans.
What the frick are you even trying to say schizo
You sound like a child that's never actually looked at the world until 2020
Amphibia Is actually a pretty bad example, it shows you not to fall into toxic friendships.
Yeah, that's about the only newer show that did something, want to say a little of the loud house (family) but they are lost at the moment.
Uhhh it’s wrong to frick your sister maybe?
Because new shows are not made for kids or even have kids in mind from the creators. They are made by weird Art School grads for fellow weird art school grads. No one under 25 watches any Disney channel cartoon.
>Like, what lesson does any kid learn from watching Amphibia?
That's a bad example because the lesson is that you don't have to be a doormat with a fake personality. Anne's entire arc is becoming her own person and not letting Sasha and Marcy control her.
She never realized Marcy was controlling her until the second season finale so it's a kinda weird arc.
Also this would mean her arc is finished in the first season yet she's still the main character for another 40 episodes (then dies)
I don't feel like they did a good job with Marcy. She never exactly match the flashback of being beside Sasha forces Anne to rob the antique store. With Sasha it's easy, basically Pacifica Northwest 2.0
With Marcy sort of like Candy from gravity falls. But that doesn't make her manipulative. Also in the flashback I got the sense that Sasha was barely Marcy friend. Sort of friend of a friend via Anne.
She really doesn't feel like the third of a trio. Anne and Sasha have much stronger chemistry and conflict with each other than with Marcy. She's an also-ran when the first episode promised the story was about THREE friends.
>It's actually super fricked up now that I think about it.
That's Helga situation in a nutshell. Presumably the dad and the mom were probably high school sweet hearts. I'm guessing prom sex leading to baby. Bob gets a job moving boxes, puts in the hours and works his way up to owning Bob's Beepers. (I think the movie does show Bob made the move to cellphones)
Mom becomes alcoholic, although I'm not sure how much she actually drinks considering they're "smoothies" daughter is a prodigy, then goes ro tutor eskimo kids (thanks Helga)
Then I think in the cancelled Patakis, she doesn't do anything with her achool degrees and tries to become an actress. She's a failure as an actress maybe grabbing a commercial or two, but supposedly when she an actress is when even her parents start seeing what a loser she is.
>(I think the movie does show Bob made the move to cellphones)
Nah, in the movie he's going out of business because he refuses to switch to cellphones. That was the plan for the spin off.
They leave hints about Miriam, like in the episode Olga was about to drop out and get married, Miriam said that is what she did.
Bob made the move to cellphones when they had the parade float
>I'm not sure how much she actually drinks considering they're "smoothies"
The smoothies aren't a censored substitute for booze, she's putting some strong liquor like vodka in something cold and sweet so it's easier to drink quickly. She doesn't care about drinking booze, she just wants to be drunk.
Yeah, in highschool I would party with my cousin, and they had this jungle juice that would frick you up.
Yeah you can put tons of liquor in a smoothie
Pretty much every major relationship Olga has had in her life is either with people interested purely in what she could do for them or being rejected.
Just having people in her life that genuinely want to be with her would go a long way towards fixing that. You can see that in the Lila episode.
tfw you can get gfs by finding overworked girls and telling them it’s totally ok if they just hang out on the couch this weekend
She was an abuse victim
So was Helga
They were in a broken home with an emotionally abusive father and an absent drunken mother
Hey Arnold didn't shy away from that kind of thing
Hey Arnold wasn't afraid to show the realities of Life.
Because you want to frick your little sister
She's better off being a drunk moron like her mom.
When I was a kid I did not understand what her problem was. Hard to believe how bad Olga had it.
When I was a kid, I thought her running mascara was blood.
Cause you got a weird pencil neck
man i hate how bad they flanderized Olga after the B+ episode, just for fit better in the Helga bad life tale
Basically every character who wasn't Helga got fricked up, flanderized, or shunted into the background over time.
The scenes where she cries gave me a running mascara fetish.
Well, not quite a fetish, but I do find it sexy when a drama Queen crimes and the mascara runs.
What a weirdo, weirdo.
>Craig Bartlett is banging the Primos chick
How does he do it?
Why does he do it?
The one who made that vid talking about how Spanish is the language of colonialism when she speaks English?
That was Myrna Velasco, voice of the lead character
Nah, that was the voice actress for the main character.
True but I'm sure to him it makes him feel impressive. He's old enough to be her dad.
Low standards?
Lets be honest.
Olga is going to end up just like her mom. The depression that runs in her side of the family is going to destroy her motivation any day now. She'll get a job she thinks will be good for the world like being a teacher's aide and thus will make her feel better doing it and thereby restore the spark she lost only to find the grind sucks and she only feels worse.
She'll start self medicating with booze, just a little at first but then diving into full time drunken stupor just like her mom does. She'll be living at home with her family and the house will have 2 Pataki girls that just spend all their time sloshed.
Olga is the type of girl that would fawn over anyone that just praises her, verbally. She is so used to attention and people telling her she is perfect that she will crave that same level of endless veneration that she would take any jobless shithead as long as he kept telling her she was special and smart and amazing every day.
The black dude is Harold original Va. I forget if Arnold original VA is another of the boatmen.
There are several black dudes.
Herold VA is the one pulling the rope
Reminder that Olga was going to become a dumb bawd.
I would batter her womb
>fake over-achiever flops in real life
That'd be a great sequel to her portrayal in Hey Arnold.
I'm curious how Olga's unconditional love for Helga would play into it.
Did she actually say that?
You don't live yourself.
Surely some of you grew up in a family like this and hate everyone you ever lived with until you were 18.
I actually moved out at 16.
My stepfather used to tell my siblings how gross and annoying I was. That it was alright for them not to play or even interact with me because my presence made things worse. Then threaten to beat me if I complained to my Mom.
My own brother wouldn't hug me until he was in his late 20s and is still uncomfortable with any physical contact from me. He admits there is no rational reason, as if I'm that physically disgusting to interact with, but that he was essentially taught to see me as a leper until he moved out.
Sorry about reality anon. Hope you're generally doing better.
Makes me think growing up with a single mother wasn't that bad.
Girls IRL absolutely despise Olga and Lila because they make them feel inadequate and jealous.
You mean Tom Sawyer sister. Because that's who the character is based on.
I thought she was based on Anne Shirley
I read a bit of Green Gables and they really do overlap as these sweet, over the top nice girls.
>mfw watching Hey Arnold as a kid influenced my taste in women as an adult