Why doesn't Dune, a space sci fi, have any memorable space crafts like the Millennium Falcon or the Enterprise?

Why doesn't Dune, a space sci fi, have any memorable space crafts like the Millennium Falcon or the Enterprise?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vanilla No-Fun wouldn't know how to direct it. Seethe at Lucas all you want, he was capable of creating cinematic universes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not universes, but toy comercial.
      Star wars has no lore, and what little there is, is so lazy and boring it's painfull go think wokepedia exists.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jeez she was cast perfectly for dune (my penis)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dune is just an Ecology paper.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only attractive actress
        >plays a milf
        Hag propaganda

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More like mom/son sexual tension enlightenment

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only ep 1-6 are canon
        rest is fanfic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only the OT is canon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        denis has no lore either. he just stole it and dumbed it down for you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dune universe sucks balls
        >Lawrence of Arab- uhhh... of Arrakis™
        >feudalism but... in space
        >jihad but... in space
        >vgh i am become space hitler xd
        >spice trade... in space (but spice = magic whenever I feel like it cuz why not lol)
        >soldiers armed with knives and swords but... in space
        >jews on a fricking synagogue planet out of the blue
        >gentically acquired magical powers (???) because uhhh prophecies (in space)
        >topic of technology handled in an embarrassing, to say the least, fashion
        >I TURNED MYSELF INTO A SPACEWORM, MONEO! I'M SPACEWORM LETO!!!!
        This is just a mix of sillyness and rehashed historical tropes, and when Herbert ran out of the latter (amerilard eduaction strikes again) he wrote nothing but nonsense and incest fanfics.
        Dune fricking sucks and americans are cattle for making such shitty literature so big
        The only good American scifi writers are PKD and Ellison

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          filtered hard, dune saga is the only good sci fi along with the valis trilogy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vanilla No-Fun wouldn't know how to direct it. Seethe at Lucas all you want, he was capable of creating cinematic universes

          You homosexuals need to stop comparing slopwars to scifi, even legend of the galactic heroes mogged shitwars at ever level.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that all sounds kino as frick though?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Star wars has no lore
        There are over a 100 Star Wars books.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes...and ruined science fiction/science fantasy by giving us the concept of "Used Future". How did this ruin it all? By creating a fricking standard that has stood for the last 47 years. Star Wars...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Star Trek

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valerian

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jupiter Ascending

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Foundation, ironically one of its inspirations

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elysium

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Altered Carbon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Halo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fifth Element

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically, the most realistic, because it's just current year but the future.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but the future/sci fi in all of these above listed is the same aesthetic as SW Used Future/Cassette Futurism or Cyberpunkish. Blocking, sharp, overscaled, soulbreaking. What the hell ever happened to the old serial look?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The prequels had this to a degree, but that was to show the slide down into the brutalism of the Empire.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The public didn't like Chronicles of Riddick

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's wrong with Flash Gordon though?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gay and lame

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the over saturation of colors hurts people's eyes, also everything is too cramped

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >scifi post 2001, dead greys, ill browns to blacks
                >sci fi prior to '68, vibrant colors, wonder, adventure
                Will take the prior thank you, don't want the Cubical Future.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they just look like colorful dildos

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >soundtrack by queen
                >doors opening sound like a man and woman orgasming
                >inspired Flesh Gordon
                Sci fi is a mistake.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                low IQ aesthetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pew pew pew

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It ruined it ultimately.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is all space combat depicted as WW2 dogfights or naval battles?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WW1 and WW2 aerial has a good balance of speed, distance and maneuverability. once you introduce more realistic concepts you end up insane distances, speeds and very little movement. Once you intro fantasy elements things get even worse because now the audience might not even understand what's even happening because you have a space plane that can travel using wormholes or whatever.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Frick that looks like shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                star trek combat is always so weird - sometimes ships take lots of hits and other times they just crumple like paper - i know it's not really a show that focus' on the combat so it doesn't bother me too much but what does someone who is really into star trek take away from the big battle scenes where these huge ships are just gets obliterated left and right but then when the enterprise is alone it can just take a huge beating over the course of a scene in a single episode

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because the people in charge of the money on productions invariably lack imagination

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how should it look like?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like being conducted somewhere where there's no air and lift.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thrust is still a thing no matter the propulsion method or medium youre in
                so flying in one direction is a given

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thousands upon thousands of autonomous drones/missiles preemptively circling around presumed enemies' positions ready to strike at a moment's (3 light-days to account for signal travel time) notice

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is literally just Mass Effect. So badly that EA should have sued the shit out of them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Is literally just Mass Effect. So badly that EA should have sued the shit out of them.

              Should someone tell him?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Khan sizes USS Reliant, a mass produced run of the mill research ship.
          >Kirk command Enterprise, but complimented by a novice crew of starfleet cadets
          >Khan uses surprise to get a knockout blow evening the odds despite his ship being completely outclassed. Stakes are evened for the remainder of the movie and you are already impressed with a clear idea of Khan and Kirk’s strategy and tactical dispositions based off a single encounter that lasted only 10 minutes
          Absolutely fricking kino. You can tell it was written by a real naval officer because moronic hacks like JJ Abrams just immediately always go to BIG SHIP FIGHT SMALL SHIP then they just shoot everyone on the bridge with guns with 3 people.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nu Enterprise
            >2x larger than Constitution Mk II
            >Vengeance, 1x larger than Nu Enterprise
            >Both move with an ease that even some fighters have a hard time with
            Imagine say something like picrel moved like that.
            Frick new sci fi

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a fair assessment but the Reliant had more firepower than the Enterprise.

            Both: Six double phaser banks on saucer and two single phaser banks on upper rear engineering hull. Two forward photon torpedo launchers.
            Enterprise: four single phaser banks on ventral engineering hull.
            Reliant: Two forward and two aft firing phaser cannons and two aft firing photon torpedo launchers on rollbar.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >scifi post 2001, dead greys, ill browns to blacks
              >sci fi prior to '68, vibrant colors, wonder, adventure
              Will take the prior thank you, don't want the Cubical Future.

              Yes, but the future/sci fi in all of these above listed is the same aesthetic as SW Used Future/Cassette Futurism or Cyberpunkish. Blocking, sharp, overscaled, soulbreaking. What the hell ever happened to the old serial look?

              The prequels had this to a degree, but that was to show the slide down into the brutalism of the Empire.

              Star Trek

              Why did space in the 70s/early 80s always look like a cloudy sunset?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Carry over from the artstyle at the time. Much drug use, effects of acid, etc. Many artists at the time were zonked out of their gourds. Wish we could go back even further when they really had no idea what things were and used more imagination than fact.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it looks cool. People hadn't fallen for the "realism" meme in sci-fi yet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lucas stole "used future" from Dune.
        Pic unrelated

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally nothing wrong with the look of Star Wars

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anime sci fi suffers the same as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lucas all you want, he was capable of creating cinematic universes
      Heh. You give hm too much credits.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lucas and the cast hated starwars and assumed it was going to be a flop. Lucas only planned on it being a footnote of something that he tried to do in him film career. Once the methods and cinematography took of he realized how much of a cash cow it was. His entire plan once he started editing the originals and filming the prequels was to sell off the rights and Lucas arts. All of his effort went into increasing the evaluation of his business and its. He never had a vision for his projects other than stacking cash.

        Herbert was the same. He just wanted to sell books. Any deeper meaning was stripped away so they could market it to the widest audience.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >vision
          spoiler alert: no artist has a vision. it's all just made up on the fly. one of my favorite artists said he hated all his works. that's how it is for some people. they make something with passion and then get bored of it, only for someone else to appreciate it. normies always think artists are in love with their own work until they die.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Herbert was the same. He just wanted to sell books. Any deeper meaning was stripped away so they could market it to the widest audience.
          Wut? The books got weirder and more esoteric and less action-heavy as the series went on.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The heighliners are quite memorable imo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They make no sense though, in the books they're actual ships they just guide people.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think they're not even described in the books other than being absurdly huge

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do the navigators steer them, though? Are the ships biomechanical? Do they plug themselves in, somehow...? That could be kind of hot.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The navigators are just literally that, navigators. In the universe they don't use AI, even basic stuff like calculators or even GPS, so the Navigators are now the GPS. They have the technology to fold space, but they need to do the calculations on where to go safely. The navigators get really high on spice, until they get the ability to see the future and plot a safe course to navigate through.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like my idea better. You could even have occasional malfunctions that would be like a highly erotic version of the chestbursters from ALIEN.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When the feminist gets pregnant in a red state.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying women have sex with men in blue states

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick is this /gif/? Where is it from?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Koutetsu no Majo Annerose - 4
                OVA (2012-2014) - 4 Episodes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ship navigators exist irl.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sauce??

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              dumb frick

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thank you, mister Black person!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This picture is scarier than Giger's paintings.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          in the books it's mentioned the ships were absolutely enormous and held other smaller craft in their holds as they travelled from place to place. It was even said that on the Guild Highliners violence was not permitted, nor were you allowed to leave your ship. The Harkonnen baron's ship could've been parked right next to the Atreides and neither side would have ever known.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AFAIK even Lynch movie included that part.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lynch had weird ass kamehameha navigator too though

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yea because Dune describes the exeprience of FTL as a spiritual thing, sure later books by the hack Herbert try to rationalize it away and make it cringe but no one cares
                people just care about the first book and stop there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dune describes the exeprience of FTL as a spiritual thing
                because they were high as frick, not because they were doing magic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea what I mean by magic but I do not want to discuss this with you as you've signaled out that you're a cringe fedora naive physicalist.
                I mean if the plot of prescience filters you that easily you're beyond moronic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It was beautiful and a way better depiction of how they might work and look than what I imagined reading about them. My dumb ass just imagined something like the catbus from totoro but a spaceship and huge, with smaller ships parked inside.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >My dumb ass just imagined something like the catbus from totoro but a spaceship and huge, with smaller ships parked inside.

        This is an example why anime will be the downfall of the western civilisation and why Miyazaki wants nothing to do with it.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "What is the most Iconic thing in our franchise?"

    "Sandworms?"

    "Good idea, get all the spaceships looking like worms."

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the people in charge of design thought of doughnuts and avocados instead of exciting futuristic stuff, I guess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bass Pro, if we didn't waste money on Africa

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        africa, if we didn't waste money on africans

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        VGH

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nothing about the designs give off an immediate sense of scale, at a glance that thing may as well be the size of toyota camry
    tldr villememe is a creatively barren hack

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Planet known throughout the universe for being a desert hell hole that's hot as goddamn shit
      >Does everything in the day, outside, no man made cover in sight with no GMO Tress planted everywhere for natural cover.
      FFS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The early 2000s miniseries had better cgi

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The early 2000s miniseries had better everything.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Out of the way genericscifislop. Memorable kino spaceship design, coming through.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, how do the astromechs legs fit into this?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They come up through the bottom of the ship. Thats how they get on too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their domes telescope up like Inspector Gadget now.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This image is wrong because it implies the sci-fi artists of now have any more of an idea than the previous generations did. So not only do artists nowadays still get the science wrong, but they also make it look completely soulless as well, compared to the charm of the then artists

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least Ralph McQuarrie had a degree in mechanical engineering, which is why his designs look structurally plausible. It wouldn't surprise me to learn than most of the old school designers had a better rounded education than the postmodern ones, who know their way around a computer and very little else.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >postmodern
          You have no idea what this means, do you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      50's scifi was a bastardization of older scifi for a mass public where scifi became nothing more than a cheap aesthetic

      it's exactly the sort of slop you'd hate if it were produced today

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But they were engineers... now they're factory produced morons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That image is so wildly wrong that I want to hurt the creator of it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think scifi artists back then actually put more thought into their designs than the average modern scif artist. Modern scifi art tends to be a total mess of pointless details with no thought behind it. Back then they were industrial designers by training. They made stuff look good, and various parts usually had a reasoning behind them. Funny to think actually, what kind of spacecraft are shaping up to be the standard mode of space travel in the 21st century? Not futuristic looking space shuttles, space frigates and whatnot. Fricking shiny stainless steel rockets that land vertically, straight out of some lame and outdated 1950's scifi that we were desperate to run away from

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can tell the creator of this image hasn't touched a book in HIS entire fricking lifetime

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the Ornithopters, I feel like they could have been this generation's X-wings but the Harkonnens used them too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do they give any in-universe reason for the goddam things?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they just look cool, in the books they're more like birds than dragonflies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not in-universe (unless idiot son has been on the case). But for Frank its about technology, as with living things, following different evolutionary lines as a result of different evolutionary pressures. Its thematic to his interests.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's moronic. Technologic systems do not evolve like biologic ones do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            phones evolve every year you moron

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know about "technologic systems" but technology in its truest sense does as it is memetic.
              Artifacts embody their design history, you are using one right now that shows you pictures of 3.5" floppy disks and suchlike.

              morons lost in metaphors

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know about "technologic systems" but technology in its truest sense does as it is memetic.
            Artifacts embody their design history, you are using one right now that shows you pictures of 3.5" floppy disks and suchlike.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's even more moronic. Any Cold War air force would mop up the Emperor's and shit it out in a single sortie.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >F-14 shoots missile at thropter
            >Hits shield
            >Both aircraft explode

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Small unprotected jet engines would get fricked up from the sand. So they use wings like that to help protect against intakes getting jammed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can’t drive around.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dragonflys are incredibly maneuverable and are the fastest insects around. The one reason we can't create vehicles like that is because the materials we have would get shattered from constant fluttering, but in Dune they have plasteel and such.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe you guys obsess over this soulless cgi reboot slop

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its a good movie…why are you such a whiny homosexual?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but I haven't seen it and prolly never will. One of the reasons I peruse these threads is to look for something interesting that would motivate me to try, and so far? No mas.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You sound as though you live life on the edge

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like an onahole.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not big enough for my big benis :DD

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spacecraft looking cool is nice but ultimately unrealistic. Space is a vacuum with minimal friction, so no need to make things aero. And aero = cool earthbros.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      space fighters being slim and low profile though could be plausible cause you present a harder to hit target

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        paradoxically maybe, but space fighters would be easier to hit than larger ships
        they simply don't carry enough reaction mass for complex maneuvers

        pinpoint accuracy is easy in space, you can't hide so you need to be hard to predict, and space fighters are predictable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's space ships that can fly in atmosphere, dingus

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not in the future. Absolute waste of energy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Space is not a vacuum. The drag cause by hydrogen gas is a big problem for interstellar travel.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a space sci fi
    it doesn't take place in space at all. this port is the only thing shown in space and it's used to get from one planet to another and it had about 10 seconds of screen time out of two movies.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do they even do space battles in Dune?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, and the lack is sorely felt IMHO.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agree.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, and the lack is sorely felt IMHO.

      Maybe they did during the Jihad. According to the lore Imperium didin't had large scale civil warfare.Frank Herber didin't focus on battles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. Space travel is so prohibitively expensive that most warfare in the Imperium is done through subterfuge and special operations. In addition, fighting in space would put Guild property at risk which would lead to an immediate blacklisting from all FTL travel by the offending house

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unironically what is the tax policy on spice?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s a feudal society so it’s more like how modern criminal gangs operate. You earn and then you kick up a cut to your liege lord.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KINO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cause Dune sucks ass as a setting. it only has Arrakis for cool shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it only has Arrakis for cool shit
      >discount Tattooine

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Tattooine
        > Tattoo
        post breasts

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pic related was ebin Carryall. Villanova's version was mid.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dune is a sci fi book about a universe after AI was outlawed and people were forced to adapt to organic technology with mentats, navigators etc to keep their empire running
    the setting is more about noble houses, guilds, religion, messiahs and the dangers of all of that, the cyclical nature of power and how humans don't change no matter where they are
    cool space ships and space cowboys are not what the setting is trying to sell to you, it's trying to sell you a warning about dangers of fanaticism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how humans don't change no matter where they are

      But isn't one of points how people need adversety. E.g. Caladan has made Atreides soft. Salusa Secundus made Sardaukar "strong" and Arrakis Fremen the strongest?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >uhmm achtually water makes you soft
        >living in a shithole desert makes you strong
        and here i thought that it was their preference for the softer life that made them soft (nobility / aristocracy / fancy shit) and not the abundance of water
        fremen see it as the desert making them strong but the desert only made them adopt religious fanaticism which then glorified their struggle and just like astreides valued honor the fremen learned to value strength and perseverance

        it's about what values make nation virile (supposedly) and frank herbert shits on the fremen later on by pulling back the veil of what their "strength from desert" made them

        bene geserits implanting their religion to your people and telling you to raw dog harsh conditions has very little to do about where you are, they would have found a way to make their life's miserable to self flaggelete through sacrifice anyway
        >but doesn't that make them change by their environment
        the fremen think that but paul and his mother know what made the fremen what they are, the masters become fat and soft and the slaves become strong is the message
        spoiler alert the fricking "strongest" troops the show has are "fish women" or some shit and you can probably guess by the name what they are

        Cool. Literally none of that was touched on in the movie. SLOP

        it's two movies in give it time, the previous movie about dune lasted a whole whopping 1 movie and they info dumped that spice shit on you and condensed it like hell
        also mentats were shown not told, butlerian jihad will most likely be brought up later and the spacing guild and noble houses were already shown

        the theme is fanaticism and messiahs = bad in the original

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The fish speakers are not the strongest army lol. They're a stand in for when Leto II (II) disbands the various militaries of the galaxy over 1000s of years. If anything the strongest fighters are BG, anime space witches, and Duncan (and Miles).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They were trained to be fanatical, disciplined, and extremely effective soldiers and police.
            >believed that male dominated military forces were essentially predatory and would turn against the civilian population in the absence of an external enemy,
            >grr men bad predators women calm and good

            >the fricking "strongest" troops the show has are "fish women"
            Not really, the fishpeakers were just a highly militant police force. The whole reason Leto chose a all female army was that women were less prone to ambition. But seeing as he was in charge of everything and reacted to rebellion with mass purges and hiring the leaders. It worked out.

            i chose the word strongest poorly, they were merely extremely effective

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They were most effective largely because they had an omniscient, immortal, worm Emperor as their boss. The moment letto ii died, the fishspeakers dissolved. They were galactic hall monitors.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the fricking "strongest" troops the show has are "fish women"
          Not really, the fishpeakers were just a highly militant police force. The whole reason Leto chose a all female army was that women were less prone to ambition. But seeing as he was in charge of everything and reacted to rebellion with mass purges and hiring the leaders. It worked out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The whole reason Leto chose a all female army was that women were less prone to ambition
            >women were less prone to ambition
            >less

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the novels are actually about is adaptation, evolution and ecological pressures/niches and all that vs. teleology.
        The main factions all represent different form of evolutionary process from selective breeding, deliberate mutation, instrumentalisation of evolutionary pressures etc.
        Evolution is also why thinking machines are objected to. Note author.
        https://web.archive.org/web/20060524131242/http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-ButFir-t1-g1-t1-g1-t4-body.html

        Dune is just an Ecology paper.

        In a way, yes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool. Literally none of that was touched on in the movie. SLOP

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come the sword fights in Dune aren't memorable?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bad choreography

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are many questions i have about the new dune movies.
    Why does it not set up any of the important shit in the universe like the importance of spice?
    Why doesn't it set up any of its character stuff properly so you can't tell why the frick anything is happening?
    Why doesn't it set up any of the battles properly?
    Why is the music/audio so terrible and african sounding when it's got nothing to do with africa?
    Why is all the CGI so terrible?
    Why did the studio edit it from an R down to a PG?
    Why is the cast so awful?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unlike the novels, DUNC is not about people or families or warriors or honor or religion or ecology skullduggery or human advancement.....it's about Zendaya.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does it not set up any of the important shit in the universe like the importance of spice?
      >Why doesn't it set up any of its character stuff properly so you can't tell why the frick anything is happening?
      it does both of those things?

      sounds like you're just dumb, can't follow a damn Hollywood blockbuster kek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder this too tbh. I liked part 2, it was good.
      I seriously wonder how people are supposed to know anything about the dune world without going on some wiki though. Dunc has no world building, you're just supposed to know things beforehand.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thopters were memorable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But made no sense in a desert environment where sand will frick up the works

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they need swift VTOL in a high turbulence environment
        wear and tear was less important than not getting eaten by a sandworm

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tell me something sand WONT frick up

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          those personal transportation thingies that made the guards float. like wtf why didn't everything use those?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you just made up the fact suspensors arent effected by sand if utilized in any way that isnt for personal use as seen in the movies

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6/10 will bait the Disney adults

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Dune fricking sucks. Books, movies, games, it all sucks.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because you spend more time with the millennium falcon and the enterprise
    They are both characters within their own movies and shows
    In Dunc the entire point is that they get stranded in the desert and all of it happens on ground

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LEGO actually made a Dune Ornithropter, anyone else here buy one?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54tCYLMzTRw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$200

      No

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because no one uses spacecraft for anything except getting down from orbit, no one actualy travels trough 'space' they 'travel without movement', and this is never explained in any meaningfull way other than that bigbrainfisheads need to snort spice to be mentaly able to 'fold space' whatever that means
    None of these things ever mattered to herbert, its irrelevant, there is literaly not one general description of a spacecraft in the entire book, theres detailed depictions of knife duels and elaborate inuendos about every shitty aspect of power relations and manipulations and assasination attempts and ethnic cohesion and custom and dress his and the other, but spacecraft, no

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about "no-ships"? Didint they literally travel to other galaxies?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        5000 years into the future from the movie anon, entire universe has changed by then

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Calls a ship a 'no-ship'
        >Is actually a ship

        DISHONEST WRITING. FRANK HERBERT WAS A HACK.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      actual moron, that's not how space travel in dune works. they take obscene amounts of spice and gain a slight prescience, allowing them to immediately see the safest and quickest course to the destination, then plug it into the spaceship and it travels there. dumb moron. fat fricking stooge

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        great, thats pretty much what i said, they snort space coke and then they know where to 'fold space' without ending up in a star or middle of nowhere, its not realy a sophisticated notion we all know thishow does that explain anything? How do they do this, how does the ship work, whats it look like, who cares it just does
        Also your mother is moronic cause i made her cum so hard she got brain damage now go ask her

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No it's not basically what U said u tard, they don't "fold space" actual fricking moron. they literally have a prescient vision of the perfect route to a destination, basically a perfect map pops into their head and then they plot this course into the ship and head on their way. Nothing like what u said, dumb fricking spaz

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and to answer your question

            great, thats pretty much what i said, they snort space coke and then they know where to 'fold space' without ending up in a star or middle of nowhere, its not realy a sophisticated notion we all know thishow does that explain anything? How do they do this, how does the ship work, whats it look like, who cares it just does
            Also your mother is moronic cause i made her cum so hard she got brain damage now go ask her

            the ship is a standard spaceship, just with no computers, mechanically it's a standard spaceship nothing to explain. funny for a star wars gay to complain about space travel and not explaining things enough, you know, considering LIGHT SPEED MAKES NO FRICKING SENSE
            >inb4 some wookiepedia or TCW episode which le explains it
            dune explains how it's space travel works multiple times throughout the book. star wars not once tries to explain how light speed works. so shut the frick up u actual cum-guzzling sped

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >star wars not once tries to explain how light speed works
              ships slip into hyperspace, a different dimension where you can move faster than light.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I still think you should reffer to your mother situation as explauned above

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              womp womp, u lost star wars israelite. back to your baby boy movies. meanwhile I'll be going hand solo on ur mums pussy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And that's a good thing.
      Brainlets can wank over Star Wars and WH40k.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you can buy gay little merch for your "man cave" that your wife allows you to have in the basement?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not made to sell action figures to babies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LEGO actually made a Dune Ornithropter, anyone else here buy one?

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54tCYLMzTRw

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just because Lego of an ornithopter is being sold doesn't mean the intention of the design was to sell toys, moron.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask the director, homosexual

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars is for children.

    Dune is for adults.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      star wars is a space cowboy samurai opera of good vs evil
      dune is a religious fanaticism / messianic figures bad and humans shitty hate letter for humanity
      lucas spend his movies gushing about how good wins through hope
      herbert spend his books gushing about how humanity ain't shit

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's no space travel actually depicted in it. A paragraph describes heighliners but them using it is never actually seen.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should have stuck with the Chris Foss spaceship and vehicle designs from Jodorowsky's Dune.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"We need a spaceship design for our Dune movie"
    >Deak Ferrano looks down at his fork

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LOL!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what if turtle, but in space?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they spent about 2 seconds of the movie in space

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thoughts on the crysknife? Will it be as iconic as a lightsaber?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where did Paul even get that one? Did he keep the one he borrowed from Chani?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He earns it through killing Jamis, but I think he gives it back after the duel.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        his worshipers gave him one probably

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lady Jessica's Fremen servant gives her one and I think maybe that's the one Paul uses to kill Jamis.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a goddamn knife. Are you dumb?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      would sell millions if they sell it as a glorified toothpick

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This blade comes from a giant alien worm tooth,
      and it looks generic as frick.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turns out teeth generally work the same everywhere

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just finished dune part 2
    that ending sucked . other poster is right not a single memorable fight scene. comical villains and edgy boi was trying his best anakin impersonation. apparently dune was nothing bit a cheap copy of star wars and its very apparent here.
    the performances were bad. characterizations were bad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you feel that way because it was as bad as the prequels, that's what link them both, them being bad movies

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how corporate slop like movie assets and concept pieces have to be explained with boring history of their process inside the corporation because there's nothing else abut them, they're just mechanical result of people bored and uncreative and their job having to reach dead-lines.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dune, a space sci fi
    You were wrong from the beginning, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this thread.
        Ok, so, if we take the whole of Sumerian, the ancient Veda's, the myths of giants, floods, wars, etc. we get...Advanced civ comes to earth, maybe more than one. Wants to colonize, set up a base, explore. Finds gold...not that there isn't more gold out in the system alone more than 4000x over but, yeah gold (assumptions are now coming forth that gold is actually needed as a catalyst to refine AM). There is some kinda conflict among the sides and a war breaks out, this war can be interpreted as Aesir vs. Vanir, Deva's vs. Asuras, Ennead vs...well, themselves, and finally Titans vs. Olympians, in short, the Titanomachy. This conflict was before we were "made". Established who had rights to run the operations here. Some frick all kick ass epic space war...based on Von Dieken, Sitchen et al.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          After everyone's heels cooled. The working class of the aliens were tired of working, because, frick, you know...an advanced race of beings who can stride the stars like we can walk from one end of the street to the other apparently fail at making automatons. So, a few of the "gods" find a primate that is close, but not quite the same as them. Based on interpretation, they either decide to Zeus the females or add some of their DNA to them, and presto! The perfect slave race to serve them! They had a bunch of advanced cities around and in between the Sinai and as far East as the Indian subcontinent...which conveniently have all vanished. including the ones in the sky (3 of them according to the Vedas) and that really really neat on that Solon heard from some Kemet priest that he told his grandson.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, based on some things the sand people were going on about, humans were very busy fricking and making more of themselves, in part to mine that rock and...serve (?) were making way to much noise and making the "gods" nervous. Probably thought there would be another revolt. Anyhow, they decided to flood the planet. Where the amount of water for this came from is debatable, but basically, they figured their chimeras could not swim. However, one "god" did not want the project to go to waste, and convinced Noah, Atrahasis, Deucalion, etc. to build a craft that could ride the storm out. What really happened? probably Younger Dryas impact near Canada did frick all to the ice and parts may have struck nearby.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As humanity tried to regrow, they figured their former masters would frick them again and decided to build a tower, it was tall, maybe had help from lesser "gods", may have been a OE, who knows, but this pissed the "gods" off too and they scrambled humanities heads and thus created the different peoples.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meanwhile, in the land where people shit in the streets and plot to frick us all in ways the israelites couldn't imagine, had two really long stories called the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, tl;dr, there was this global civilization that consisted of 7 or so really advanced cities (a few in the sky?) that were about to be embroiled in a really nasty war...not as bad as the one that happened before us, that one btw took out the fifth world, ruined Mars and Venus, because they were like Earth or something, closed Saturns portal, gave it its rings, and a bunch of other bullshit, but hey, you had to be there because it was EPIC, but anyway, this war was about to go down and there were still some "gods" or their kids running around and decided to help one of the two factions. The cause of the war? Someone dropped the baddest "your momma" of all time and that just caused one side to chimpout (Hanuman?) like no other.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, the war happened with the remains of the tech from the "gods". In fact, some of the tech was so fricking dangerous, it was hidden in a land to the SE of India, Astralaya, (Australia, the oldest of the continents, according to geology, why? Because they say its so flat and featureless, some people say the Earth is flat too, but really don't care because hate flying and don't really see a need to travel too far) these weapons are the surviving left overs from that space war the "gods" had and one of them actually fricking sounds like a lightsaber. Also, personable portable mini nukes, aircars, power armor, mind controlled drones, and one weapon that sounds like a AM bomb. This war lasted 18 days, killed 1.8 billion, destroyed the flying cities (one crashed, causing a giant wave in a land West of India) and the 7 other major cities worldwide and gave us a probably incorrect description of nuclear radiation based on a weapon that sounds more like a curse or spell. Also, we are still recovering from this conflict to this day and are now supposedly learning back those "wonders" we lost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In short, ancient myths makeup the best science fiction fantasy ever and someone needs to put it all together and make some serious bank. You think when Marduk was on earth, he had a bike like this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sounds like Bollywood needs to step the frick up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        me on the right, running from the space cops

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are you a space black?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no but there's no way I'm getting another space DWI

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's the Ebon Hawk

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick is this shit in orbit?
    Why not put it on surface like stargate?
    >inb4: in books it's a ship

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe its too big to be on the planet, also they can probably still move it around space

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i liked the floating half avocado that blew up the fremen base

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't say the same about Dune

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a penis

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    christ, is EVERYTHING in dune a fricking sandworm?

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DUNC doest need overly designed spaceships in order to sell toys because kids these days barely any buy toy. A videogame adaptation will be more lucrative
    >90% of the two DUNC movies take place on a dusty world, so spaceships dont have enough screen time or any kind of iconic action in order to be memorable. The movie is mostly focused on sandworms
    >If you want to b***h about a design, b***h about the sandworm design. How these buggers move beneath the sand so fast without a cone like face, is beyond me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why did you greentext all that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, it felt better like this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >alright

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they eat/drink the sand and filter it out from spice in their poop moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you be saying that these sand homies are hunting and eating worm shit?? homie what? AHAHAHAH the absolute state of yt literature

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have you seen codex pajeet II? Pretty lore accurate to me homie

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked this thing. I didn't notice it was acting as a portal until I saw it again.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they ran out of budget with all the good actors they had to hire

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It had the dragonfly helicopter, dumb Black person.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Computer art" is an oxymoron. This shit was clearly made using geometric tools, snap-on shit at best. Even AI is capable of more soulful art, since it can learn from hand-drawn stuff and ignore the Dark Ages we've been living under since Photoshop was invented.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is everything grey?

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesnt seem like the point of nu-Dune to be a glorified toy commerical

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because its purpose was to tell a story, not to sell figures

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Villememe
      >telling stories

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *ahem*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >let's paint a permanent pirate logo on our ship
      No wonder these morons got shot up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        first off that's not even a pirate ship it's a smuggler
        secondly it's heavily implied the ship can shapeshift its skin like a chameleon so the logo isn't permanent at all

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          still gay as frick

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they do a Jurassic Park/How to train your Dragon and have one of the worms become Paul's friend? Like it had a blue streak on it and it's an outcast and Paul finds it in the desert and raises it to be her personal sand worm.

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