If he deserves to be your best friend in the first place then he deserves help. Either you're making bad choices of friends (overvaluing people) or you don't appreciate the friends you have (undervaluing people).
This is just basic economics. Even Ayn Rand wrote about this and she's the #1 cheerleader for being a selfish capitalist.
>If my best friend lived in poverty and I was a billionaire, I'd help him financially out of the kindness of my heart.
Why on earth would you do that? Then you wouldn't be able to laugh at your best friends struggles and feel good about being more successful than him negating all the benefits of being rich. There would be no point anymore.
The Potter family was fairly wealthy, like not as rich as the Malfoys or the other really older families but were well off enough due to patents like hair potions and shit.
Harry probably didn't even need to work for a living, especially after inheriting the Black fortune from Sirius, but he figured he was good at fighting evil wizards he might as well be getting paid for it.
you are legally not allowed to give people money if you are rich in the USA. you are however legally allowed to give your money to the government who will then share it with said person you wanted to give the money to... after their cut ofcourse.
nah its real man. shits fricked. i think the limit is like $10,000 before the government wants their cut. when Oprah Winfrey gave all those people new cars, pretty much everyone had to sell the car to pay off the "taxes" of the new car.
the frick? why do americans call america land of the free?
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Poor education mostly
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the frick? why do americans call america land of the free?
what are 5 countries with reliable running water and electricity where i can give cash gifts without having to pay a tax on it?
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I can 100% guarantee your country has a gift tax past a certain value. If you don't it makes tax evasion incredibly easy.
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That's bs and you know it, the only taxes that exist is the send fee or the in the price of said product, this is just straight up robbery, many have tried but usually people have common sense and reject that shit tax, but the US is not really a country
I do. If the Weasleys hate being poor maybe that b***h should close her legs and get a job since her kids are out of the house 10 months out of the year
yeah, I mean I think jkr confused "poor" with "a goofy nerd" and just made them super cool and interesting but also bullied for some reason
(I guess because molly and Arthur slammed out 7 or 8 kids implying they fugged like third worlders which by association must be poor?)
If you inherit wealth then you earned it by virtue of being part of a family that had their shit together enough to amass the wealth and keep it, your family having probably worked extremely hard to do so. By what right do you have as an inheritor of a gift entrusted to your family through generations to go and blow that money to "help" someone whose family blew all their money on trinkets and doodads and never saved anything or thought about their family as a single unit that continues from the past into the future.
What I don't understand is why wealth would matter in a world with magic. When they go to see the quidditch game they enter a little tent but in the inside it's bigger than the Weasley's house. So why live in a tiny shithole?
There’s laws and stuff about wizards giving themselves more wealth with magic, it’s why there are upper class families like the Malfoys and why every wizard family doesn’t live in a huge castle. How these laws work or are enforced or why they’re even followed is anyone’s guess.
>There’s laws and stuff about wizards giving themselves more wealth with magic
I prefer the explanation that they are just lazy because magic does everything for them. Why come up with a money making scheme when you can swipe your wand and have the umbrella clean the house?
i always assumed he couldn't touch it until he was 18 or whatever being an adult is in that world
because it's a stupid ill thought out children's book world that falls apart the second you leave Hogwarts. why JK insists on trying to milk the cow beyond that and make trash like the Fantastic Beasts movies is beyond me.
>because it's a stupid ill thought out children's book world that falls apart the second you leave Hogwarts
This, nothing makes sense this world.
I just don't believe wizarding would stay hidden. Wizarding is so overpowered, that you would constantly have someone enslaving entire muggle cities.
A competent wizard is basically invincible, what the hell are you supposed to do against a person with mind control/invisibility/matter manipulation and fricking time travel?
Really, you see zero potential combat application for the ability to go back in time?
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The ability itself no, but the way is used it's totally impractical and you cannot freely use it anyway
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>Video game logic
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There are plenty of ways to use it in combat.
You decide that tomorrow you're going to go back in time and disable the enemy's gun. Then suddenly their gun doesn't work.
It's Bill and Ted rules. Harry used it to save himself from some Dementors.
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>oh no, I'm pinned down with no backup >I know, after the battle I'll go back in time and take out that sniper who's shooting at me >*green flash seen in the distance* >thanks future me
>you would constantly have someone enslaving entire muggle cities.
If you can do magic what is the point of enslaving normals? They can't do anything for you that you can't magic up for yourself.
>i always assumed he couldn't touch it until he was 18 or whatever being an adult is in that world
But he did. That's why there's that scene in like the first movie where buys a cart full of lollies on the train.
The weasley family couldn't afford that tent. It was loaned to them by a coworker.
Magic like that is very difficult and expensive. And it slowly wears off over time.
Wizards literally cannot generate gold with magic or permanently change their biological forms (including sex) with magic. Those are the two hard limits of Rowling’s magic system.
>or permanently change their biological forms (including sex) with magic
Didn't that one guy spend like 13 years living as Ron's pet rat? 13 years sound pretty fricking permanent to me. Or did he sneak off to transform back and was never caught during his 13 year tenure as a pet rat?
IIRC Peter spent so long as a rat he took on rat like features and mannerisms. He could have ran off to the bottom of the garden for a break in human form, but then he'd need a wand?
Scarcity or poverty among wizards in HP doesn't make sense and never will despite brainlets trying to convince you otherwise, Rowling just never thought it out. In a world where you can generate something out of nothing it should be extremely easy to not be poor. The laws of thermodynamics don't even apply in this world since you can spawn energy out of nowhere without previously investing any energy. >inb4 you can't make money
OK then spawn an apple and sell it on the street, here's your money to pay for your heating. >inb4 you can't spawn food
OK then just get a shit ton of water and heat it up through magic and send it through pipes in your hose, here's your heating. Etc. There is always a solution to poverty or lack of things in a world where magic lets you freely spawn anything for no cost.
think bigger. all energy generation boils (PUN INTENDED) down to making steam to turn a turbine
just use magic to make steam and sell megawatts of power to the grid
There's some line in the book that "Harry knew they would never accept it" but that means he never actually asked
I mean Ron was happy to receive multiple snacks and handouts from Harry over the years, so i think it's just Rowling squiggling her way out. Weasleys being poor is too funny and endearing, so they stayed that way.
This. He could easily buy everyone new robes for their respective birthdays so they don't have ill fitting second hand ones. He could buy Ron a broom when he joins the Quiddich team or a new wand when his old one broke.
None of these are massive charitable donations that someone would be embarrassed to receive. They're just practical gifts that anyone who isn't a greedy douchebag would buy for someone who's basically their second family.
A competent wizard is basically invincible, what the hell are you supposed to do against a person with mind control/invisibility/matter manipulation and fricking time travel?
>primary weapon is a fragile stick >needs to be waved in dramatic gestures accompanied by magic words >no sights, laser or any other aiming features
Camouflaged Muggle snipers shoot all visible guards from the outside, then the assault team breaks through every door and window simultaneously and shoots the wizards from every conceivable angle. There is no fricking way you can wave a wand or spin a timeturner quick enough to avoid it.
It probably can, but it's never explicitly stated.
In the books it's only ever used to block spells. Nobody tries hitting them with anything else.
But given that wizards occasionally have to fight goblin rebellions, centaurs, and witch burning mobs. It's probably safe to say their shield spell works against projectiles.
>Camouflaged Muggle snipers shoot all visible guards from the outside
There's an invisible solid wall all around the place that stops the bullets. Once the strike team enters they pass through a bubble that makes muggles, and only muggles, completely forget what they were doing and maybe even fall asleep for good measure. You don't realize how OP having unblockable mind control powers is. Magic is broken, pls nerf
You need just one soft-hearted liberal-minded hippie wizard to enchant your bullets and cast a perception spell on you. Like the kind who would be involved in the elf liberation movement. From this point forward guns beat wands every time.
So you're saying the muggles can't win without wizards? Curious. Almost like the whole concept of muggles beating wizards is unthinkable.
Besides, all it takes is one wizard with an enchanted firearm and protection spells up to solo the entire United States armed forces, so it goes both ways.
>Camouflaged Muggle snipers shoot all visible guards from the outside
There's an invisible solid wall all around the place that stops the bullets. Once the strike team enters they pass through a bubble that makes muggles, and only muggles, completely forget what they were doing and maybe even fall asleep for good measure. You don't realize how OP having unblockable mind control powers is. Magic is broken, pls nerf
>its the 90s >the parents didnt have the money in an investment stock such as broomsticks or some fricking herb company >They just let gallions sit and rot
They were the true evil in this story
Because Rowling knows that the concept of wealth is meaningless when you can magic up anything you want whenever you want so she tries to spend as little time talking about it as possible.
My wifes mom had to sell her late husbands car to help pay for medical expenses. My wofe doesnt ask me for money cause she knows Ill say no. Its my money, not "our" money, lmao. Anyway, something similar with Harry and the Weasles. Frick them.
Because you are supposed to love your wife and if she loves you then she won't bankrupt you, think about it, if you can't trust your wife with your money then there should and probably will be a divorce
Lol, you are delusional. If the female you're married to could be financially independent at your expense, she could leave you and you'd lose access to the hole she's attached to. Why would you risk losing access to the hole? Minimize your risks.
>Because you are supposed to love your wife
I do love my wife. Are you trying to suggest that the level of love in any given relationship can only be determined by the amount of financial support provided?
moron. >if she loves you then she won't bankrupt you
That explains why she didnt ask me for money then. Youre just proving my point.
Idiot.
It's just there so he never has to worry about tuition. Hogwarts is supposed to be this great, magical place where Harry can escape from the Dursleys, instead of an expensive private boarding school that it actually is. If you want to see how a poor protagonist has to deal with tuition for a magic school, see Name of the Wind.
True, but I like it anyways. It has an interesting magic system and a world full of mysteries.
Still waiting on that 3rd book, but at least he released 2 mini-novels in the meantime.
he's written himself into a corner hasn't he? I'll die before I see the end of Kvothe's story.
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There's just so much stuff he has to fit into that 3rd book. He still has to find the amyr, open the lackless door, discover his mother was a lackless, open the 4 plate door in the archives, get thrown out of the university, go to the witch women of the tahl and learn singing magic, lose all his friends, kill an angel, kill cinder, kill a king, start a war, lose his adem sword and make a whole new one, get a bunch of magic rings after learning like 5 more names, learn who auri really is, become taborlin the great, and then somehow resolve everything and subvert the will of the cthaeh.
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Oh, he also has to meet Bast and make his thrice locked chest.
It's just there so he never has to worry about tuition. Hogwarts is supposed to be this great, magical place where Harry can escape from the Dursleys, instead of an expensive private boarding school that it actually is. If you want to see how a poor protagonist has to deal with tuition for a magic school, see Name of the Wind.
Unfortunately millennials internalized this way to much and now we have the student debt crisis.
Its just there to say >Look little orphan you did have parents and they were super successful and they left money for you because you’re special and loved and the chosen one
Why didnt Harry hire twenty wizard mercenaries and have them beat the shit out of Draco or Snape? Because the money had already served its purpose, it doesnt even “exist” by the third book since no one ever mentions it
>what was even the point of making Harry rich if he never uses his money? Does he buy anything at all?
It's to explain how he affords school when the Dursleys wouldn't pay for him but there are also poor families like the Weasleys. Ultimately his wealth has no large impact on the larger story besides keeping him in school with new stuff and staying in Diagon Alley in PoA and general wish fulfillment as part of a fantasy novel. Even when he gave money to the twins for their joke shop it was his Triwizard winnings, not personal wealth
He toys with going on a shopping spree in Azkaban and then decides Nah. He doesn't even buy proper clothes for himself if he's not told to by the supplies list, he's still wearing hand-me-downs from Dudley years into the books.
JK Rowling changed her plans after the first or second book. The story was supposed to be this whimsical fantasy where an aging roastie fantasizes about being back in school. Harry Potter being rich is just another part of the fantasy.
After the success of the book she became rich and started hanging out with other rich people where she quickly got converted into an outspoken leftist feminist. Harry being rich as a plot line got abandoned. Voldemort went from this evil creature that can't be mentioned to a white incel nazi.
Harry Potter in the first book/movie is very different from Harry Potter in the last book/movie. It's like different authors. First book is this fantasy from a woman who peaked in middle school. The last book is bitter feminist HR lady fantasy where the greatest heroes become government workers and the great evil is people saying bad things about the unpure races.
Harry actually earned his money by being Dumbledore's rent boy for years and never breaking his his silence. Ron is Ginger and has a family so Dumbledore avoided molesting him. Harry was already vulnerable and exploitable.
Have you never met a redhead? They're a proud people. Try helping them with anything, they'll get all pissed off.
>Hey, I see you're trapped under that burning car, can I help? >OH THE CAR IS BURNING? LIKE I'M A "FIRE CROTCH", HUH? FRICKING HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REDHEADS? I'LL FITE U RITE NOW MOTHERFRICKER IF MY LEGS WEREN'T SEVERED FROM THIS BURNING REBAR I'D KICK YOUR ASS.
The weasley family has always been morally superior mudblood lovers.
They refused to be listed on a list of 28 pureblood families because they hated pureblood politics.
Remember kids intelligence, power, morality etc. are not determined by lineage except when they are.
2024 and people still believe mud blood is about how much muggle is in you baka.
ALL wizards have a bit of muggle in them, what sets apart the pure from the filthy is the purity of your noble soul, the kind that can be traced back to the noble Normans.
yea but his mother was a mudblood muggle-born I think that makes him half-blood, at least not a pure-blood
being "pure-blood" means jack shit if two mudbloods can make them
Is it ever explained how Sirius Black was able to buy Harry the wizard equivalent of a Ferrari while being an escaped convict who spent the last 13 years of his life in prison?
>Doesnt share gold >Leads him on near-death adventures >Takes the spotlight on every accomplishment >Fricks his sister >Will probably frick his wife.
Harry is actually an butthole and terrible friend.
Harry is just a fricking c**t. He didn't have to give them money, but he could have at least helped them out. Ron's family let him live with them, fed him, treated them as one of their own, and bought him presents for Christmas. Harry, the rich fricking c**t, can't even be bother to give other people Christmas gifts. The only time Harry gives people money is the time he gave the twins his tournament winnings, and only because he doesn't need the money. Harry Potter is one of those series that as I grew older, the more I started to fricking hate it.
He did using his winnings from the tournament. I think J.K. Rowling forgot Harry is super rich.
90% of the story doesn't make sense at all, she doesn't care she just wrote something 'entertaining' and everything in there is just a vehicle for it, doesn't have natural writing at all
it's really epic in your adolescence and then it becomes a kafkaesque bureaucracy. At least, that's how it appears from the POV of Harry Potter, child.
money doesn't do anything anyways
they live in a world where they can conjure e-girl shit into a goblet and become trannies at will
the frick you need gold for
Can you build a house, a car, or a computer chip?
The wizard world is the same. You don't know how to make a wand. You buy one from the wandmaker who is a specialized craftsman.
People who can make their own stuff are like hobbyists who can knit hats or build a cabinet.
You can try to brew your own potions, but there's a fair chance you screw it up and waste days of effort and valuable ingredients.
Especially since the school textbooks were written wrong on purpose.
Logical fallacy,
the wizarding world has exponential efficiency variables compared to the real world. >can I build a house
yes, the issue is time >can i build a car
yes, the issue is time >can I build a computer chip
yes, and I have. it was not a very complicated chip, but I tested it using an oscilloscope and the output was correct and could have been used for the purposes i needed it to be used for.
once again the issue is time.
All of these things, in the wizard world are infinitely less complex FOR BASIC NEEDS.
So how can you be considered poor when you can quite literally build a house in a few days, a garden in a few weeks, and have all your basic needs taken care of?
Leaving you the infinite amount of time for greater needs.
Protip newbie, if your basic needs are met. You are not poor.
You don't make those things yourself. You rely on experts to do it properly.
The Weasleys couldn't afford to hire experts so they tried to do everything themselves.
As a result, their house was a poorly built scrapheap that only stayed up by magic.
They also made their own clothes, grew their own food, and raised livestock.
This did not leave them with "infinite time for greater needs". That's what consumed their time.
Ron occasionally got pissed off that "everything I own is rubbish". They had to save their money for the stuff they couldn't do themselves. Like buying school supplies. Most of their kids played quiddich which really didn't help.
The Weasleys have their pride and refuse to take anything from him.
He did manage to give Fred and George his Triwizard winnings, but he had to practically shove it down their throats, and they ended up thinking of it as a startup loan rather than a gift.
Harry doesn't spend much money because he doesn't have an income as he's a minor. As an adult, both him and Ginny work. Also, the Weasleys are only poor during the first books. Around book four and five, Percy and the twins get jobs so Arthur only had to 100% support Molly, Ron, and Ginny.
Harry isn't really that wealthy. It's like he has $100k from his parents. It's an insane amount of money for a child. He can afford whatever he wants, but he's not rich.
The house Sirius left him is probably worth a lot more. Especially considering the protective enchantments and the free slave.
All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them, except the unforgivable curses, so what makes someone a better wizard than anyone else? Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells as his mainstay and people call him powerful? Everyone is weak to expelliarmus + stupefy so what gives?
>All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them
Not true. It's clear throughout the series that spells vary depending on the skill of the person casting them. And even the wand they're using. >Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells
And a metric frickton of luck. He's not powerful, he just has a little more experience at defensive spells than his classmates. After the DA they're all pretty much even with him. >what makes someone a better wizard than anyone else
Snape is a good example of a powerful wizard who isn't a freak like Voldemort or Dumbledore.
He casts spells without incantations and reads the mind of his opponent at the same time to anticipate their next move.
In Half Blood Prince he tells Harry something like, "You'll never be able to beat me until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed."
High level wizard fights are a lot more than just shooting lasers at each other.
All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them, except the unforgivable curses, so what makes someone a better wizard than anyone else? Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells as his mainstay and people call him powerful? Everyone is weak to expelliarmus + stupefy so what gives?
Dumbledore vs Voldemort shows what a true high level wizard fight is like. They can both block mundane attacks and even the "unblockable" killing curse so they have to get creative.
They keep throwing unique attacks at each other trying to find something the other one can't counter.
All powerful wizard fights should've been like this. The unforgivable curses, especially the killing curse, should only have been accessible by the most powerful wizards or those who have gone through immense emotional trauma (like Harry)
Having Crabbe and Goyle run around casting avada kedavra was dumb. Might as well just give every wizard a gun
>Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells as his mainstay and people call him powerful? Everyone is weak to expelliarmus + stupefy so what gives?
Harry and Voldemort are protected by the prophecy so Harry could have shot sparks at these people and still come out on top
>George continued to operate the business after Fred's death, despite never fully getting over the loss of his twin.[14] Two years after Ron became an Auror, he left the job, stating that he wanted to help his brother George with a shop he had always loved. Already a highly successful emporium, together they were able to turn Weasley's Wizard Wheezes into an even more gigantic money-spinner.[14]
Nah, it's the one thing that finally allowed them to escape poverty.
He doesn't want to come off as condescending, he's doing them a huge favour by not corrupting their good nature with the huge sums of money he inherited.
I always thought it was weird that Rowling initially implied that Harry would be getting with Hermione, but then completely switched track to Ginny who's basically meant to look like his mother and then Rowling dyed her hair red. Weird shit.
From what I remember reading is how she considered Hermione her author avatar character, and felt it would be a bit too arrogant to ship her hero with her self insert so basically had Hermione end up with Ron despite them being complete opposites.
I mean that wouldn't be bad at all, specially since it made sense, Harry and Hermione had an extremely close relationship, it was the only natural relationship in the whole series
if you were to change this world and remove Ministry of Magic and all that British official shit - what would you replace it with, to make this world truly magical?
A magical kingdom hidden on an island that is magically blocked from muggle maps, where the wizards go for a yearly council meeting
Imagine the ancient greek forum
Would give you a chance to show all different kinds of wizards from all over the place, and sentient magical creatures too. Could add a lot of depth to the world by showing the various issues that all these different wizard communities feel are important
But that wouldn't fit in this novel at all, it's not about any of that
Meh, it's a children's novel
I was around harry's age as the books were coming out, if you had asked 11 year old me whether I wanted wizard politics or wacky school adventures, I would have preferred the latter
I always assumed wizards hid because they'd get turned into paste in a straight up fight against muggles in any scenario
They just don't have the numbers
In the books they refuse his financial help everytime its offered.
Probably because they are wizards and they don't actually need money for 99% of things and despite being pov they have some pride
Don't ask me how I know this, but the brat's wealth doesn't even have anything to do with his parents or the themes in the story.
Lorewise, Harry is rich because his grandfather invented a magic shampoo that made his family millionaires
Why was Harry rich again? I get that JK needed him to be able to afford school supplies but it doesn't otherwise have any impact. All the best stuff he gets is paid for by other people and he never solves his or anyone else's problems with his money. And he goes on to be a normal government salaryman. It would make no difference if his parents left him a modest trust fund to pay for his education instead of a literal vault full of gold.
According to Rowling, he didn't want to ruin the Weasleys' humility .
Harry's mindset was "the Weasleys are good people because they are humble, and they are humble because they are poor. If I give them money they could change. Too make sure the family remains pure, I must make sure they never abandon poverty. It's not enough that I don't lend them money, once I have the power, I will enforce their poverty.
Every character acts like an irrational woman, justifying their behaviour with flawed logic.
If Harry was a proper lad, he would treat the Weasleys to something nice, without handing them a stack of cash
What I don't get is how the Weasleys were poor when their dad was thea head of a government department.
Sure, he was the head of the lowliest department there was. But he was still important enough to be heading a department in the later books in charge of detecting and confescating dangerous artifacts.
Is it a joke to still be paying him peanuts while being in a position vital for security?
I think he was payed well but as anons have said ITT they had several children they had to put through expensive magical school and he was the only income
By the first book two of their kids had already graduated, one working for a bank, and one had a well job as a researcher. Third book their third oldest son graduated and got a important government position as well. then their twins became successful entrepreneurs, so what you're saying is that none of their kids gave anything back to them and that their wealth situation didn't improve at all as their kids graduated and got successful careers
Percy grows up and is estranged because of fudge and doesnt reconcile with them until the end of the series. The twins only become successful midway through the series as a prank shop. I dont think they were loaded running a prankshop and Bill was some dragon guy in a traveling trope so i dont think he was making money.
But youre thinking to hard about it. Weasleys are just a archetype of hardworking middle class irish families who work hard but just make it by. Youre not really supposed to think about their financial situation
Harry is spoiled. You may say he grew up with the horrible dursleys, and that is true, but the sudden influx of wealth rotted him as a person. He should never have been shown the gold, he should have been given an allowance by hagrid or dumbledore.
He did when he married the prostitute of Gryffindor. When he learns Ginny has been burning coal behind his back harder than Germany since the green party convinced people to shut down nuclear power plants, he will lose most of it and still be forced to pay custody.
The Weasleys kept pumping out kids even though they had little money. It was their choice. You are not obligated to have 10 children.
Never watched these movies. So he’s super rich? Why did the Slytherin guy bully him then? I assumed the Slytherin guy was super rich and he bullied Harry for being a poorgay.
Slytherin guy is the son of a voldemort henchmen and there's also racism involving pure blood magic people and those who were born muggles or married them.
In the book it says that Harry knows the Weasleys are too proud to accept charity. But Hagrid is also described in the first book as twice as tall as a normal man and five times as wide and that is clearly not the case here so who knows
He's not a pinko commie.
they married into it
Why should he?
He should at least reimburse them for the living cost whenever he stayed at their house. It's like a buffet everyday.
If my best friend lived in poverty and I was a billionaire, I'd help him financially out of the kindness of my heart.
Said best friend doesn't deserve it tho
If he deserves to be your best friend in the first place then he deserves help. Either you're making bad choices of friends (overvaluing people) or you don't appreciate the friends you have (undervaluing people).
This is just basic economics. Even Ayn Rand wrote about this and she's the #1 cheerleader for being a selfish capitalist.
Harry should have made Ron suck and ride him for handouts and money. Then he'd deserve it.
The more you give people the more they take
>If my best friend lived in poverty and I was a billionaire, I'd help him financially out of the kindness of my heart.
Why on earth would you do that? Then you wouldn't be able to laugh at your best friends struggles and feel good about being more successful than him negating all the benefits of being rich. There would be no point anymore.
was Harry really a billionaire? also weren't Fred, George and Charlie pretty rich themselves?
The Potter family was fairly wealthy, like not as rich as the Malfoys or the other really older families but were well off enough due to patents like hair potions and shit.
Harry probably didn't even need to work for a living, especially after inheriting the Black fortune from Sirius, but he figured he was good at fighting evil wizards he might as well be getting paid for it.
Altruism isn't IN right now sweetie, we're all cold-hearted egoists now, get with the times
you are legally not allowed to give people money if you are rich in the USA. you are however legally allowed to give your money to the government who will then share it with said person you wanted to give the money to... after their cut ofcourse.
>you are legally not allowed to give people money if you are rich in the USA
Huh? That's bs
nah its real man. shits fricked. i think the limit is like $10,000 before the government wants their cut. when Oprah Winfrey gave all those people new cars, pretty much everyone had to sell the car to pay off the "taxes" of the new car.
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/frequently-asked-questions-on-gift-taxes
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gifttax.asp
the frick? why do americans call america land of the free?
Poor education mostly
what are 5 countries with reliable running water and electricity where i can give cash gifts without having to pay a tax on it?
I can 100% guarantee your country has a gift tax past a certain value. If you don't it makes tax evasion incredibly easy.
That's bs and you know it, the only taxes that exist is the send fee or the in the price of said product, this is just straight up robbery, many have tried but usually people have common sense and reject that shit tax, but the US is not really a country
>You can't even give your mother money without paying taxes
What's with this dystopian shit?
They should earn it like he did
rich people would unironically agree with this post
I do. If the Weasleys hate being poor maybe that b***h should close her legs and get a job since her kids are out of the house 10 months out of the year
>should close her legs
meanwhile the pure blood elitists complain they are dying out but only have one child
The Weasleys were purebloods. With molly being a powerful witch(enough to kill lestrange) and Arthur being in the fricking ministry
yeah, I mean I think jkr confused "poor" with "a goofy nerd" and just made them super cool and interesting but also bullied for some reason
(I guess because molly and Arthur slammed out 7 or 8 kids implying they fugged like third worlders which by association must be poor?)
>super cool and interesting
Who?
Malfoy and Lucius WERE PEAKY FOOKIN' BLINDERS!?
If you inherit wealth then you earned it by virtue of being part of a family that had their shit together enough to amass the wealth and keep it, your family having probably worked extremely hard to do so. By what right do you have as an inheritor of a gift entrusted to your family through generations to go and blow that money to "help" someone whose family blew all their money on trinkets and doodads and never saved anything or thought about their family as a single unit that continues from the past into the future.
What I don't understand is why wealth would matter in a world with magic. When they go to see the quidditch game they enter a little tent but in the inside it's bigger than the Weasley's house. So why live in a tiny shithole?
The Weasley house is already magical, they just like living like that
There’s laws and stuff about wizards giving themselves more wealth with magic, it’s why there are upper class families like the Malfoys and why every wizard family doesn’t live in a huge castle. How these laws work or are enforced or why they’re even followed is anyone’s guess.
The Weaselbergs own a multilevel home and land. In Bongistan this is a glaring sign of great wealth.
Bullshit
>There’s laws and stuff about wizards giving themselves more wealth with magic
I prefer the explanation that they are just lazy because magic does everything for them. Why come up with a money making scheme when you can swipe your wand and have the umbrella clean the house?
i always assumed he couldn't touch it until he was 18 or whatever being an adult is in that world
because it's a stupid ill thought out children's book world that falls apart the second you leave Hogwarts. why JK insists on trying to milk the cow beyond that and make trash like the Fantastic Beasts movies is beyond me.
>because it's a stupid ill thought out children's book world that falls apart the second you leave Hogwarts
This, nothing makes sense this world.
I just don't believe wizarding would stay hidden. Wizarding is so overpowered, that you would constantly have someone enslaving entire muggle cities.
the hysteria over george groyd oding may as well have been some wizard sitting in a tower mind controlling the masses
You can just kill wizards with guns and start a revolution if they take over your city though
A competent wizard is basically invincible, what the hell are you supposed to do against a person with mind control/invisibility/matter manipulation and fricking time travel?
They can't time travel
What are time turners then?
A tool, that can't really be used in combat
muggle cope
Really, you see zero potential combat application for the ability to go back in time?
The ability itself no, but the way is used it's totally impractical and you cannot freely use it anyway
>Video game logic
There are plenty of ways to use it in combat.
You decide that tomorrow you're going to go back in time and disable the enemy's gun. Then suddenly their gun doesn't work.
It's Bill and Ted rules. Harry used it to save himself from some Dementors.
>oh no, I'm pinned down with no backup
>I know, after the battle I'll go back in time and take out that sniper who's shooting at me
>*green flash seen in the distance*
>thanks future me
>you would constantly have someone enslaving entire muggle cities.
If you can do magic what is the point of enslaving normals? They can't do anything for you that you can't magic up for yourself.
They can suck your dick.
the reason you never see elf women is because they're relegated to the bedrooms
Someone forgot about Winky.
you must mean wanky
Someone forgot the elf hooker on Fantastic beasts
And then the aurors come in, abra kadabra your ass, and erase everyone's memory.
>why JK insists on trying to milk the cow beyond that and make trash like the Fantastic Beasts movies is beyond me.
It's for money.
Same reason they're making a reboot that nobody will watch
>i always assumed he couldn't touch it until he was 18 or whatever being an adult is in that world
But he did. That's why there's that scene in like the first movie where buys a cart full of lollies on the train.
this applies to the real world too, anon, cant you see?
The weasley family couldn't afford that tent. It was loaned to them by a coworker.
Magic like that is very difficult and expensive. And it slowly wears off over time.
Wizards literally cannot generate gold with magic or permanently change their biological forms (including sex) with magic. Those are the two hard limits of Rowling’s magic system.
>or permanently change their biological forms (including sex) with magic
Didn't that one guy spend like 13 years living as Ron's pet rat? 13 years sound pretty fricking permanent to me. Or did he sneak off to transform back and was never caught during his 13 year tenure as a pet rat?
Go read the book you fricking moron. Get out your dictionary as well since you don't even know what permanent means.
IIRC Peter spent so long as a rat he took on rat like features and mannerisms. He could have ran off to the bottom of the garden for a break in human form, but then he'd need a wand?
Scarcity or poverty among wizards in HP doesn't make sense and never will despite brainlets trying to convince you otherwise, Rowling just never thought it out. In a world where you can generate something out of nothing it should be extremely easy to not be poor. The laws of thermodynamics don't even apply in this world since you can spawn energy out of nowhere without previously investing any energy.
>inb4 you can't make money
OK then spawn an apple and sell it on the street, here's your money to pay for your heating.
>inb4 you can't spawn food
OK then just get a shit ton of water and heat it up through magic and send it through pipes in your hose, here's your heating. Etc. There is always a solution to poverty or lack of things in a world where magic lets you freely spawn anything for no cost.
think bigger. all energy generation boils (PUN INTENDED) down to making steam to turn a turbine
just use magic to make steam and sell megawatts of power to the grid
spells in harry potter can't do anything besides make people go "aagh!" and drop their wand, or get pushed over, or make shiny lights
I swear it's mentioned somewhere that you cannot duplicate real money
>tfw even in magicland the ~~*goblins*~~ control global finance
that's right, we truly are gods chosen
Wizards need to pay for magic goods and services.
>HARRY POTTER DID YOU OHP IN THE SQUAT RACK
Dumbledore asked calmly
I can only do ohp in a squat rack unfortunately.
How are you tumblr prostitutes still triggered by this? 😀
i unironically enjoy harry squatter ai memes
>why yes dumbledore
>in fact, that was just my warmup.
>i have eight sets of heavy doubles and three back-off sets of six reps remaining
>harry squatter
IIRC Ron he tried, Ron would refuse and the parents were too proud/embarrassed and wouldn't accept any monetary help.
At any rate they married into it later.
There's some line in the book that "Harry knew they would never accept it" but that means he never actually asked
I mean Ron was happy to receive multiple snacks and handouts from Harry over the years, so i think it's just Rowling squiggling her way out. Weasleys being poor is too funny and endearing, so they stayed that way.
This. He could easily buy everyone new robes for their respective birthdays so they don't have ill fitting second hand ones. He could buy Ron a broom when he joins the Quiddich team or a new wand when his old one broke.
None of these are massive charitable donations that someone would be embarrassed to receive. They're just practical gifts that anyone who isn't a greedy douchebag would buy for someone who's basically their second family.
>primary weapon is a fragile stick
>needs to be waved in dramatic gestures accompanied by magic words
>no sights, laser or any other aiming features
Camouflaged Muggle snipers shoot all visible guards from the outside, then the assault team breaks through every door and window simultaneously and shoots the wizards from every conceivable angle. There is no fricking way you can wave a wand or spin a timeturner quick enough to avoid it.
"protego"
"accio firearms"
>protego
Can't protect you from projectiles
This is just straight up untrue, what it can't block is unforgivable curses like Avada Kedavra
yes it literally can?
It probably can, but it's never explicitly stated.
In the books it's only ever used to block spells. Nobody tries hitting them with anything else.
But given that wizards occasionally have to fight goblin rebellions, centaurs, and witch burning mobs. It's probably safe to say their shield spell works against projectiles.
>Pro
>Get his skull raped by bullet who goes at 300m/s
>ACK
You need just one soft-hearted liberal-minded hippie wizard to enchant your bullets and cast a perception spell on you. Like the kind who would be involved in the elf liberation movement. From this point forward guns beat wands every time.
Good thing she got over that (Brainwash)
So you're saying the muggles can't win without wizards? Curious. Almost like the whole concept of muggles beating wizards is unthinkable.
Besides, all it takes is one wizard with an enchanted firearm and protection spells up to solo the entire United States armed forces, so it goes both ways.
Nukes.
>Camouflaged Muggle snipers shoot all visible guards from the outside
There's an invisible solid wall all around the place that stops the bullets. Once the strike team enters they pass through a bubble that makes muggles, and only muggles, completely forget what they were doing and maybe even fall asleep for good measure. You don't realize how OP having unblockable mind control powers is. Magic is broken, pls nerf
You can cast spells without any wand action. Maybe read the books instead of getting wand action from your town raptist ever day
He’s gonna lose half of that plus alimony when that used up ginger prostitute divorces him because she starts missing the BBC that popped her cherry
Just have a nice day already
Ginny canonically dated Dean Thomas before she dated Harry
That doesn't change the fact that you will never be a woman and should rope homosexual
What does that have to do with what that anon said?
Obsessed with cuckoldry -> troony
Anon, is not cuckholdry
Ginny is a canonical prostitute, and Harry lives miserably with her
His children aren't his anyway
Usary is against the 10 commandments
>its the 90s
>the parents didnt have the money in an investment stock such as broomsticks or some fricking herb company
>They just let gallions sit and rot
They were the true evil in this story
They were busy fighting a war, and then died.
Because Rowling knows that the concept of wealth is meaningless when you can magic up anything you want whenever you want so she tries to spend as little time talking about it as possible.
My wifes mom had to sell her late husbands car to help pay for medical expenses. My wofe doesnt ask me for money cause she knows Ill say no. Its my money, not "our" money, lmao. Anyway, something similar with Harry and the Weasles. Frick them.
your wofe ought to dovorce you
Why cause I wont give her my money?
Good luck dating prostitutes and gold diggers.
Because you are supposed to love your wife and if she loves you then she won't bankrupt you, think about it, if you can't trust your wife with your money then there should and probably will be a divorce
Lol, you are delusional. If the female you're married to could be financially independent at your expense, she could leave you and you'd lose access to the hole she's attached to. Why would you risk losing access to the hole? Minimize your risks.
>Because you are supposed to love your wife
I do love my wife. Are you trying to suggest that the level of love in any given relationship can only be determined by the amount of financial support provided?
moron.
>if she loves you then she won't bankrupt you
That explains why she didnt ask me for money then. Youre just proving my point.
Idiot.
>dont support your own family, nay, your own WIFE, we're all atomised individuals goy
This ridiculous westoid thinking is why browns are dominating
She's not your family forever
what was even the point of making Harry rich if he never uses his money? Does he buy anything at all?
>Does he buy anything at all?
the lot
It's just there so he never has to worry about tuition. Hogwarts is supposed to be this great, magical place where Harry can escape from the Dursleys, instead of an expensive private boarding school that it actually is. If you want to see how a poor protagonist has to deal with tuition for a magic school, see Name of the Wind.
>Name of the Wind
Cuck schlock written by an even lazier maggot then GRRM
True, but I like it anyways. It has an interesting magic system and a world full of mysteries.
Still waiting on that 3rd book, but at least he released 2 mini-novels in the meantime.
I want to frick auri, Devi, denna and the sex fae.
You forgot Fela.
he's written himself into a corner hasn't he? I'll die before I see the end of Kvothe's story.
There's just so much stuff he has to fit into that 3rd book. He still has to find the amyr, open the lackless door, discover his mother was a lackless, open the 4 plate door in the archives, get thrown out of the university, go to the witch women of the tahl and learn singing magic, lose all his friends, kill an angel, kill cinder, kill a king, start a war, lose his adem sword and make a whole new one, get a bunch of magic rings after learning like 5 more names, learn who auri really is, become taborlin the great, and then somehow resolve everything and subvert the will of the cthaeh.
Oh, he also has to meet Bast and make his thrice locked chest.
Unfortunately millennials internalized this way to much and now we have the student debt crisis.
Nah, that's because of the predatory educational system
Its just there to say
>Look little orphan you did have parents and they were super successful and they left money for you because you’re special and loved and the chosen one
Why didnt Harry hire twenty wizard mercenaries and have them beat the shit out of Draco or Snape? Because the money had already served its purpose, it doesnt even “exist” by the third book since no one ever mentions it
>what was even the point of making Harry rich if he never uses his money? Does he buy anything at all?
It's to explain how he affords school when the Dursleys wouldn't pay for him but there are also poor families like the Weasleys. Ultimately his wealth has no large impact on the larger story besides keeping him in school with new stuff and staying in Diagon Alley in PoA and general wish fulfillment as part of a fantasy novel. Even when he gave money to the twins for their joke shop it was his Triwizard winnings, not personal wealth
He funds the twins' joke shop. Nobody here actually read the books I guess
That was with his Triwizard prize, not "his" Money
He was able to do that because he had a pile of money already
pretty sure he bought stuff for Ron too
Not much
>candy now and then
>binoculars at the world cup
>dress robes from his triwizard winnings
He toys with going on a shopping spree in Azkaban and then decides Nah. He doesn't even buy proper clothes for himself if he's not told to by the supplies list, he's still wearing hand-me-downs from Dudley years into the books.
JK Rowling changed her plans after the first or second book. The story was supposed to be this whimsical fantasy where an aging roastie fantasizes about being back in school. Harry Potter being rich is just another part of the fantasy.
After the success of the book she became rich and started hanging out with other rich people where she quickly got converted into an outspoken leftist feminist. Harry being rich as a plot line got abandoned. Voldemort went from this evil creature that can't be mentioned to a white incel nazi.
Harry Potter in the first book/movie is very different from Harry Potter in the last book/movie. It's like different authors. First book is this fantasy from a woman who peaked in middle school. The last book is bitter feminist HR lady fantasy where the greatest heroes become government workers and the great evil is people saying bad things about the unpure races.
they're too proud to accept it
The Weasleys live on the dole whilst binge drinking on white lighting.
Harry actually earned his money by being Dumbledore's rent boy for years and never breaking his his silence. Ron is Ginger and has a family so Dumbledore avoided molesting him. Harry was already vulnerable and exploitable.
Because Harry learned to be a douche bag from his adoptive parents.
But he did, the Weasleys grommed him into joining their family for a reason
this part of the movie/book was totally forgotten. The fact that Harry is actually loaded is never utilized or mentioned again
harry is canonically israeli this makes sense given this scene
why didn't Harry invest into bitcoin
The series is set in the '90's
It's bitgalleon, you fricking muggle scum
It would shame all of them. The Weaselys are poor but proud.
He lost all his money when he married, that's why he's so miserable in the future
Well J.K. Rowling kind of forgot that Harry was rich...
because rowling is a boring middle class englisher from the 90s and those values were imprinted on the book
What's stopping a wizard from just transfiguring shit into gold and selling it to clueless muggles?
Ron's dad.
Have you never met a redhead? They're a proud people. Try helping them with anything, they'll get all pissed off.
>Hey, I see you're trapped under that burning car, can I help?
>OH THE CAR IS BURNING? LIKE I'M A "FIRE CROTCH", HUH? FRICKING HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REDHEADS? I'LL FITE U RITE NOW MOTHERFRICKER IF MY LEGS WEREN'T SEVERED FROM THIS BURNING REBAR I'D KICK YOUR ASS.
If you were a part of that ginger poorgay family and a kid offered you some of his huge wealth, imagine how lowdown and scummy you'd feel.
Better question, why would the Weasleys associate with a mudblood? Disgusting.
All the greatest wizards from Merlin to Voldemort were half-bloods. Witches need some of that Big Muggle wiener to maximise their child's potential.
>Merlin
That's because he was half demon
>Voldemort
lost to a baby, you cannot make this shit up
>Dumbledore
>Grindelwald
>Slytherin
>Gryffindor
>Ravenclaw
You skipped a lot of better pure blood ones
The weasley family has always been morally superior mudblood lovers.
They refused to be listed on a list of 28 pureblood families because they hated pureblood politics.
Remember kids intelligence, power, morality etc. are not determined by lineage except when they are.
The Weasleys are hypocrites, they look down on Muggles just as much as the blood purists
2024 and people still believe mud blood is about how much muggle is in you baka.
ALL wizards have a bit of muggle in them, what sets apart the pure from the filthy is the purity of your noble soul, the kind that can be traced back to the noble Normans.
Malfoys are the reason Queen Elizabeth I remained a virgin femcel for the rest of her life, because she rejected one of them.
whut
Technically Harry isn't a mudblood, both his parents were wizards.
yea but his mother was a mudblood muggle-born I think that makes him half-blood, at least not a pure-blood
being "pure-blood" means jack shit if two mudbloods can make them
Yes but mudblood specifically means one or both parents are muggles. Harry isn't a pure blood, but his dad belonged to a major family.
he realized they must actually enjoy being poor since at any moment they can just conjure anything they want
Is it ever explained how Sirius Black was able to buy Harry the wizard equivalent of a Ferrari while being an escaped convict who spent the last 13 years of his life in prison?
he knew a guy
he bought some government bonds before getting sent down
Sirius *Black*
Even a disowned rothschild would be living large.
>the one character famous for being a prisoner is named Black
bravo rowling
1v1 or skirmish, gun + the element of surprise > magic > muggles
All out war, magic > everything
why didn't harry just use the cloak as a ghillie suit and snipe moldyfart with a 308 rifle
He did tho, did you even read the book?
a brick + the element of surprise > any firearm in the world
you dumb frick
it was retconned somewhere by rowling so that harry's gold is only a moderate amount and he's not actually wizard elon musk
>Doesnt share gold
>Leads him on near-death adventures
>Takes the spotlight on every accomplishment
>Fricks his sister
>Will probably frick his wife.
Harry is actually an butthole and terrible friend.
Harry sacrificed everything to keep Ron happy
t. Ron 'the butthole' Weasley
Didn’t he help the twins buy their store or something?
Yep.
Harry is just a fricking c**t. He didn't have to give them money, but he could have at least helped them out. Ron's family let him live with them, fed him, treated them as one of their own, and bought him presents for Christmas. Harry, the rich fricking c**t, can't even be bother to give other people Christmas gifts. The only time Harry gives people money is the time he gave the twins his tournament winnings, and only because he doesn't need the money. Harry Potter is one of those series that as I grew older, the more I started to fricking hate it.
He did using his winnings from the tournament. I think J.K. Rowling forgot Harry is super rich.
The Weasleys don't deserve any money
BC its wizard bitcoin and no wizard is powerful enough to 51% attack wizcoin
>Dude just immediately give away all your savings
He gave all of his money to them after marrying Ginny
She wrote that the Quidditch rules specifically make no sense because it winds men up.
I honestly believe she's a misandrist, and that's where this trans shite has stemmed from.
90% of the story doesn't make sense at all, she doesn't care she just wrote something 'entertaining' and everything in there is just a vehicle for it, doesn't have natural writing at all
literally what whimsy is, seethe harder logicuck
your whimsy left after book 4, cope harder
The Weasleys are fricking trash
>world of magic so powerful the only limit is the imagination
>its just british anal retentive bureaucracy with wands
A ministry of magic? Seriously? Wtf is wrong with brits
>90% of the British wizards need to work on the Ministry
This is such a boring world, who would even want to live in it?
it's really epic in your adolescence and then it becomes a kafkaesque bureaucracy. At least, that's how it appears from the POV of Harry Potter, child.
Scots absolutely adore the idea of an omnipotent nanny state even more than the English
money doesn't do anything anyways
they live in a world where they can conjure e-girl shit into a goblet and become trannies at will
the frick you need gold for
Can you build a house, a car, or a computer chip?
The wizard world is the same. You don't know how to make a wand. You buy one from the wandmaker who is a specialized craftsman.
People who can make their own stuff are like hobbyists who can knit hats or build a cabinet.
You can try to brew your own potions, but there's a fair chance you screw it up and waste days of effort and valuable ingredients.
Especially since the school textbooks were written wrong on purpose.
>Especially since the school textbooks were written wrong on purpose
That's not true, Snape was just godlike at brewing potions.
Logical fallacy,
the wizarding world has exponential efficiency variables compared to the real world.
>can I build a house
yes, the issue is time
>can i build a car
yes, the issue is time
>can I build a computer chip
yes, and I have. it was not a very complicated chip, but I tested it using an oscilloscope and the output was correct and could have been used for the purposes i needed it to be used for.
once again the issue is time.
All of these things, in the wizard world are infinitely less complex FOR BASIC NEEDS.
So how can you be considered poor when you can quite literally build a house in a few days, a garden in a few weeks, and have all your basic needs taken care of?
Leaving you the infinite amount of time for greater needs.
Protip newbie, if your basic needs are met. You are not poor.
You don't make those things yourself. You rely on experts to do it properly.
The Weasleys couldn't afford to hire experts so they tried to do everything themselves.
As a result, their house was a poorly built scrapheap that only stayed up by magic.
They also made their own clothes, grew their own food, and raised livestock.
This did not leave them with "infinite time for greater needs". That's what consumed their time.
Ron occasionally got pissed off that "everything I own is rubbish". They had to save their money for the stuff they couldn't do themselves. Like buying school supplies. Most of their kids played quiddich which really didn't help.
Was Harry israeli?
The Weasleys have their pride and refuse to take anything from him.
He did manage to give Fred and George his Triwizard winnings, but he had to practically shove it down their throats, and they ended up thinking of it as a startup loan rather than a gift.
Harry doesn't spend much money because he doesn't have an income as he's a minor. As an adult, both him and Ginny work. Also, the Weasleys are only poor during the first books. Around book four and five, Percy and the twins get jobs so Arthur only had to 100% support Molly, Ron, and Ginny.
They married into it?
Harry isn't really that wealthy. It's like he has $100k from his parents. It's an insane amount of money for a child. He can afford whatever he wants, but he's not rich.
The house Sirius left him is probably worth a lot more. Especially considering the protective enchantments and the free slave.
He also left him money.
also a sex slave
Was Ginny briefed that she must snag Harry at all costs for his shekels?
She got BLACKED before settling in with Harry btw.
Yes, and Harry was groomed to comply
they wouldnt take it even if he offered everything
Sure thing Harry
All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them, except the unforgivable curses, so what makes someone a better wizard than anyone else? Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells as his mainstay and people call him powerful? Everyone is weak to expelliarmus + stupefy so what gives?
Why wouldn’t Harry just cast that Gemini curse on his gold, and have infinite wealth?
Goblin's money magic detects fake coins.
>All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them,
That's wrong tho, there's differece in the power of spells
How and when?
Like when voldy was 1v3 slapping the shit out of McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn
Voldemort had hacks, and there's literally a spell that just shuts down every other spell that can be cast with no verbal or somatic components.
This isn't D&D, Black person.
But it got the point across, nonverbal spells that don't need wand movement are just spitting in the face of your own magic system.
>All spells have the same effect no matter who casts them
Not true. It's clear throughout the series that spells vary depending on the skill of the person casting them. And even the wand they're using.
>Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells
And a metric frickton of luck. He's not powerful, he just has a little more experience at defensive spells than his classmates. After the DA they're all pretty much even with him.
>what makes someone a better wizard than anyone else
Snape is a good example of a powerful wizard who isn't a freak like Voldemort or Dumbledore.
He casts spells without incantations and reads the mind of his opponent at the same time to anticipate their next move.
In Half Blood Prince he tells Harry something like, "You'll never be able to beat me until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed."
High level wizard fights are a lot more than just shooting lasers at each other.
Dumbledore vs Voldemort shows what a true high level wizard fight is like. They can both block mundane attacks and even the "unblockable" killing curse so they have to get creative.
They keep throwing unique attacks at each other trying to find something the other one can't counter.
Yea and Dumbledore only wins cause Voldemort is stupid and tried to get Harry
All powerful wizard fights should've been like this. The unforgivable curses, especially the killing curse, should only have been accessible by the most powerful wizards or those who have gone through immense emotional trauma (like Harry)
Having Crabbe and Goyle run around casting avada kedavra was dumb. Might as well just give every wizard a gun
The last two books are terrible for a reason
>Might as well just give every wizard a gun
it would of been a better story if she wrote it that way.
Dual wielding is a real thing, blasting shield spells with one hand shooting homies with the other
>Harry gets by with one of the relatively weaker spells as his mainstay and people call him powerful? Everyone is weak to expelliarmus + stupefy so what gives?
Harry and Voldemort are protected by the prophecy so Harry could have shot sparks at these people and still come out on top
The only Weasly's who took money from Harry were Fred and George, and it was his Triwizard winnings to open their magical artifacts shop.
Do you think Fred closed it down after?
>George continued to operate the business after Fred's death, despite never fully getting over the loss of his twin.[14] Two years after Ron became an Auror, he left the job, stating that he wanted to help his brother George with a shop he had always loved. Already a highly successful emporium, together they were able to turn Weasley's Wizard Wheezes into an even more gigantic money-spinner.[14]
Nah, it's the one thing that finally allowed them to escape poverty.
>Two years after Ron became an Auror, he left the job, stating that he wanted to help his brother George with a shop he had always loved
Bullshit. He was probably Harry's partner and got tired of his shit.
Ron is just a loser anon
That's objectively false, Ginny took all his money and so did her Mother, specially after their inevitable divorce
George Weasley became super rich so it doesn't even matter
The Weasleys are a bunch of homosexuals, frick 'em
Better question would be, if Weasley's dad worked for the Ministry of Magic, how the frick was he so poor?
He worked for a shit department
>He worked for a shit department
The Indian consular?
The ministry isn't some high tier job, most of them are shit jobs, but is really the only real job for wizards
He likely wouldn't have full control of it until he's 18 or older, he probably is only allowed to take money for his tuition and accommodation etc.
I bet the Weasleys stole from Harry's vault
One of the older brothers worked for Gringotts.
Which makes it easier
He literally gave Fred and George the equivalent of 100,000 at the end of book 4 so they could star wizard Walmart.
From the money that he won at the Triwizard tournament
He gave him something a lot more valuable
Friendship
But Ron is a terrible friend
He doesn't want to come off as condescending, he's doing them a huge favour by not corrupting their good nature with the huge sums of money he inherited.
Anon.... he was just getting groomed into giving them all
I always thought it was weird that Rowling initially implied that Harry would be getting with Hermione, but then completely switched track to Ginny who's basically meant to look like his mother and then Rowling dyed her hair red. Weird shit.
From what I remember reading is how she considered Hermione her author avatar character, and felt it would be a bit too arrogant to ship her hero with her self insert so basically had Hermione end up with Ron despite them being complete opposites.
It wad more like Hermione was her self insert and Ron was her based on her
husband at the time, she divorced him due to abuse tho...
I mean that wouldn't be bad at all, specially since it made sense, Harry and Hermione had an extremely close relationship, it was the only natural relationship in the whole series
Hopefully the reboot changes that shit
Harry should end up with Hermione and Ron should end up with Ginny
Yes
Executive meddling
billionaires exist yet they keep seeking more wealth and not caring about anyone
Its canon that hes israeli. Thats why hes the chosen one
if you were to change this world and remove Ministry of Magic and all that British official shit - what would you replace it with, to make this world truly magical?
More diversity on the races, and them having more relevance in the magic world
I feel like thats all harry potter had going for it. Might as well just make a new fantasy world from scratch at that point.
A magical kingdom hidden on an island that is magically blocked from muggle maps, where the wizards go for a yearly council meeting
Imagine the ancient greek forum
Would give you a chance to show all different kinds of wizards from all over the place, and sentient magical creatures too. Could add a lot of depth to the world by showing the various issues that all these different wizard communities feel are important
But that wouldn't fit in this novel at all, it's not about any of that
i could see it if the island was in the North, i mean not tropical
The HP world is so uninteresting... it had potential and your post us genuinely way better than the shit JK did
Meh, it's a children's novel
I was around harry's age as the books were coming out, if you had asked 11 year old me whether I wanted wizard politics or wacky school adventures, I would have preferred the latter
I always assumed wizards hid because they'd get turned into paste in a straight up fight against muggles in any scenario
They just don't have the numbers
In the books they refuse his financial help everytime its offered.
Probably because they are wizards and they don't actually need money for 99% of things and despite being pov they have some pride
Don't ask me how I know this, but the brat's wealth doesn't even have anything to do with his parents or the themes in the story.
Lorewise, Harry is rich because his grandfather invented a magic shampoo that made his family millionaires
Why was Harry rich again? I get that JK needed him to be able to afford school supplies but it doesn't otherwise have any impact. All the best stuff he gets is paid for by other people and he never solves his or anyone else's problems with his money. And he goes on to be a normal government salaryman. It would make no difference if his parents left him a modest trust fund to pay for his education instead of a literal vault full of gold.
Isekai power fantasy
Did he ever cover the expenses of Dursleys?
According to Rowling, he didn't want to ruin the Weasleys' humility .
Harry's mindset was "the Weasleys are good people because they are humble, and they are humble because they are poor. If I give them money they could change. Too make sure the family remains pure, I must make sure they never abandon poverty. It's not enough that I don't lend them money, once I have the power, I will enforce their poverty.
Every character acts like an irrational woman, justifying their behaviour with flawed logic.
If Harry was a proper lad, he would treat the Weasleys to something nice, without handing them a stack of cash
>Why doesn't Harry share his enormous wealth with the Weasleys?
Because Jo Rowling is a hack. Simple as.
What I don't get is how the Weasleys were poor when their dad was thea head of a government department.
Sure, he was the head of the lowliest department there was. But he was still important enough to be heading a department in the later books in charge of detecting and confescating dangerous artifacts.
Is it a joke to still be paying him peanuts while being in a position vital for security?
I think he was payed well but as anons have said ITT they had several children they had to put through expensive magical school and he was the only income
By the first book two of their kids had already graduated, one working for a bank, and one had a well job as a researcher. Third book their third oldest son graduated and got a important government position as well. then their twins became successful entrepreneurs, so what you're saying is that none of their kids gave anything back to them and that their wealth situation didn't improve at all as their kids graduated and got successful careers
maybe dear old dad shouldn't have been wasting money on muggle trinkets all the time
Percy grows up and is estranged because of fudge and doesnt reconcile with them until the end of the series. The twins only become successful midway through the series as a prank shop. I dont think they were loaded running a prankshop and Bill was some dragon guy in a traveling trope so i dont think he was making money.
But youre thinking to hard about it. Weasleys are just a archetype of hardworking middle class irish families who work hard but just make it by. Youre not really supposed to think about their financial situation
Sorry your right bill did work for the bank, they had another son charles that did the dragons
Because it’s his money. His parents worked hard to give him that money. If he wants to share his money with others he can, but why should he have to?
They barely worked for a year before getting killed. Harry's father always had that money, he didnt do anything for it
Harry is spoiled. You may say he grew up with the horrible dursleys, and that is true, but the sudden influx of wealth rotted him as a person. He should never have been shown the gold, he should have been given an allowance by hagrid or dumbledore.
>Harry is spoiled
moron
I accept your concession, ad hominems are not an argument.
Money ruins friendships, moron, do you also beg your rich friends for gibs like a pathetic subhuman?
If I was filthy mega rich I would at least buy my best friend's family a better house when they open their home and let me poke their daughter.
no, i swallow their loads for my allowance
please be latina
He did when he married the prostitute of Gryffindor. When he learns Ginny has been burning coal behind his back harder than Germany since the green party convinced people to shut down nuclear power plants, he will lose most of it and still be forced to pay custody.
The Weasleys kept pumping out kids even though they had little money. It was their choice. You are not obligated to have 10 children.
Harry no longer has control on his money, he lost it all
Never watched these movies. So he’s super rich? Why did the Slytherin guy bully him then? I assumed the Slytherin guy was super rich and he bullied Harry for being a poorgay.
The rivalry is insanely one sided. Draco has literally nothing on Harry until Harry sperged out in movie 5.
Slytherin guy is the son of a voldemort henchmen and there's also racism involving pure blood magic people and those who were born muggles or married them.
So what was the point of all this shit and struggle Harry went through, just to end living miserable as an adult?
In the book it says that Harry knows the Weasleys are too proud to accept charity. But Hagrid is also described in the first book as twice as tall as a normal man and five times as wide and that is clearly not the case here so who knows
because they never asked for help
They groomed the help out of him
what does that mean?
What do you think?
reading your mind is beyond me.
Name 5 countries who make their "freedom" their whole selling point in every argument
Also weren't his parents in their early 20s? Where did they get all that gold?
Harry potter is trash, atleast the last 2 books