Because God is not bound to the sacraments. He's hardly going to damn some Sentinelese natives because they didn't seek a dude in robes to dunk their heads in water. On the other hand, the Church has formally declared that it knows no other means of salvation other than baptism, so theologians have tried to shore up this discrepancy with the doctrine of "baptism by desire."
Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight other than the psychological effect that it might have on the participant.
The baptism of an infant (or any human who's unable to process the symbolism) is a meaningless act that's designed to make the parents and religious authorities feel good about themselves. Anyone who disagrees is a superstitious moron.
>grow up
says the person who believes pouring some water on a baby's head while mumbling some words magically enhances the baby spiritually.
And context does indeed matter. For example: >Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight
Is different from... >Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight other than the psychological effect that it might have on the participant
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Baptism saves because it's a work of God, not of man. The same is true with the Eucharist. It's objectively God in the bread and wine. He makes Himself real to us. It's not our faith or our psychology making material things Holy.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's objectively God in the bread and wine.
ayo dis homie eating GOD
Baptism saves because it's a work of God, not of man. The same is true with the Eucharist. It's objectively God in the bread and wine. He makes Himself real to us. It's not our faith or our psychology making material things Holy.
Mumbo jumbo
Everything is a work of the creator, not just the religious constructs you ascribe to it.
I cant help but feel like youre looking at tradition like a checklist of requirements that if missed, disqualify you from heaven. Christianity isnt works based and by saying you have to do these traditional rituals, you are technically framing christianity works based >oh you accepted me into your heart, accepted my forgiveness, OH BUT YOU FORGOT THE BREAD AND WINE BIT SORRY!!!!
To indulge in sinful behavior is to deny God himself. youre creating a very slippery slope.
Maybe to know God and not perform an arbitrary volume of works in his name is to deny God. Ive been baptised and take communion pretty regularly but those are not the things that save me. Christ dying on the cross for the my sin is
>grow up
says the person who believes pouring some water on a baby's head while mumbling some words magically enhances the baby spiritually.
And context does indeed matter. For example: >Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight
Is different from... >Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight other than the psychological effect that it might have on the participant
go back to r/atheism to discuss the amount of hormones you need to take to get sure your sex change operation is successful disgusting redditor
Because Shapiro is a israelite, and already cursed by his unrepentant nature. Also, the Catholic Church has invented several things that are absent from the Words of Christ
I think the accepting christ part is quite a bit more important when talking to a guy like Ben. I prefer the other christian guy who hits Ben with the ole CS Lewis "Dont patronize Jesus by saying he was a 'good teacher'"
>All these tradcath larpers saying baptism is just a meme
LMAO y'all homies crack me up. I like Jesus he's a pretty cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything, but I don't consider myself a Christian because there are 2 things Jesus said in the Bible that I just can't believe. And one of them is that the only way into the kingdom of heaven is to accept Jesus/the Good Word and be baptized. It fits that you heathens decided to become Catholic. Do some rosary prayers then ask your Mexican priest to explain the Bible to you again.
t. baptised
Jesus baptises you with the holy spirit. You SHOULD get baptised in the same way you SHOULD turn away from sin, but even the best christians will fail these having accepted Christs forgiveness.In accepting Christ you should feel a relational responsibility to do right by him and do things that glorify God.
>israeli ZOMBIE israeli ZOMBIE israeli ZOMBIE
Catholic priest pedo jokes will never get old, much like the young people who died in 9/11.
Because he's not crazy?
Why did he refuse to tell Ben Shapiro that he needs baptism to be saved
Because God is not bound to the sacraments. He's hardly going to damn some Sentinelese natives because they didn't seek a dude in robes to dunk their heads in water. On the other hand, the Church has formally declared that it knows no other means of salvation other than baptism, so theologians have tried to shore up this discrepancy with the doctrine of "baptism by desire."
Which negates the need to get any of the sacraments. Which is why the church is dying.
Who would've thought the whole damn thing is logically untenable
If you know of baptism, then you should seek it. If you don't know it, then you can't seek it. Pretty simple to understand.
Shapiro doesn’t even believe in God regardless of his baptism status
Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight other than the psychological effect that it might have on the participant.
The baptism of an infant (or any human who's unable to process the symbolism) is a meaningless act that's designed to make the parents and religious authorities feel good about themselves. Anyone who disagrees is a superstitious moron.
>Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight
Lol imagine being this stupid hahaha
Context matters, genius
No it doesn’t dummy. Grow up
>grow up
says the person who believes pouring some water on a baby's head while mumbling some words magically enhances the baby spiritually.
And context does indeed matter. For example:
>Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight
Is different from...
>Baptism is a symbolic act that carries no weight other than the psychological effect that it might have on the participant
Baptism saves because it's a work of God, not of man. The same is true with the Eucharist. It's objectively God in the bread and wine. He makes Himself real to us. It's not our faith or our psychology making material things Holy.
>It's objectively God in the bread and wine.
ayo dis homie eating GOD
next you'll say Communion is a symbolic act that carries no weight.
Why would I think otherwise?
Mumbo jumbo
Everything is a work of the creator, not just the religious constructs you ascribe to it.
Think harder
I cant help but feel like youre looking at tradition like a checklist of requirements that if missed, disqualify you from heaven. Christianity isnt works based and by saying you have to do these traditional rituals, you are technically framing christianity works based
>oh you accepted me into your heart, accepted my forgiveness, OH BUT YOU FORGOT THE BREAD AND WINE BIT SORRY!!!!
To know of the sacraments and reject them is to deny God himself.
To indulge in sinful behavior is to deny God himself. youre creating a very slippery slope.
Maybe to know God and not perform an arbitrary volume of works in his name is to deny God. Ive been baptised and take communion pretty regularly but those are not the things that save me. Christ dying on the cross for the my sin is
go back to r/atheism to discuss the amount of hormones you need to take to get sure your sex change operation is successful disgusting redditor
I'm not an atheist or trans, and I've never posted on reddit.
0 for 3
doesn't change that you're still a dick
Not a Christian board nor website, Pedro. This isn't your safe space.
Because Shapiro is a israelite, and already cursed by his unrepentant nature. Also, the Catholic Church has invented several things that are absent from the Words of Christ
Catholic Church created the Bible
Because you need much more than that.
I dont recall Jesus telling the leper to go stroke his rosary beads and do 25 "hail marys"
I think the accepting christ part is quite a bit more important when talking to a guy like Ben. I prefer the other christian guy who hits Ben with the ole CS Lewis "Dont patronize Jesus by saying he was a 'good teacher'"
jews are saved by their genetics
>god
doesn't exist lol
Trannies are men in dresses lol
Everyone outside your discord group feels second hand embarrassement from your BASED christlarper phase kid
Does he even do movie reviews anymore?
>All these tradcath larpers saying baptism is just a meme
LMAO y'all homies crack me up. I like Jesus he's a pretty cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything, but I don't consider myself a Christian because there are 2 things Jesus said in the Bible that I just can't believe. And one of them is that the only way into the kingdom of heaven is to accept Jesus/the Good Word and be baptized. It fits that you heathens decided to become Catholic. Do some rosary prayers then ask your Mexican priest to explain the Bible to you again.
t. baptised
Jesus baptises you with the holy spirit. You SHOULD get baptised in the same way you SHOULD turn away from sin, but even the best christians will fail these having accepted Christs forgiveness.In accepting Christ you should feel a relational responsibility to do right by him and do things that glorify God.
>y'all
Opinion disregarded